"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

news:fttch7$39r$1@news.mixmin.net...

>>> Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

>>

>> Like I said - someone is clueless.

>

> Or just trolling.....

 

Same thing.

If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an MS hater looking for reasons to

hate Vista. I mean honestly, 1 extra click from XP? Is that really so bad?

Is it too hard for you to figure out?

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"kurttrail" wrote:

> Bob Campbell wrote:

>

> > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

> > news:%23MsPsxXnIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

> >>> properties right away?

> >

> >

> >> LOL

> >>

> >> You have made a good point there

> >

> > The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

> > clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>

> Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

> display properties in XP.

>

> 2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

> page first.

>

> It seems that it is you that is clueless, Booby.

>

> --

> Peace!

> Kurt

> Former Self-anointed Moderator

> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>

>

Answers inline

 

"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6B828F07-7C07-45BA-B50D-BFB098B40494@microsoft.com...

> the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

> everything.

>

 

No more complicated than when you fiorst used XP..

> On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

> even compatible with Vista.

>

 

I understand that there is a free version somewhere that works.

> From reading some of the other comments,

> SnappyFax is not a very good program.

>

 

99% of all feedback seen by me tells me that Snappy is a very good program

>Also, why would Microsoft supply a

> fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

> everyday home owner?

>

 

Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or WinFax

(Pro)

>

> Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is

> "Novice". I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are

> already on the computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have

> to try to figure out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that

> in home use I don't need. XP supplied everything I needed without all the

> frills.

>

 

'Work' computers are tailored to do the job which you have been employed to

do. Home computers are aimed squarely at general use. For the novice, Vista

does not have any more to confuse than XP ever had.

> Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program

> and figure out what we need.

> gl

>

 

Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user is the

most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax which,

incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants. In fact,

many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>> >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>> >If I

>> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>> > was

>> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if

>> > it

>> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>> > for

>> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>> >

>> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>> >

>> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> > computers

>> > and I understand why.

>> >

>> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>> >

>> >

>> gl

>>

>>

>> Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

>>

>> What else can't you do that you could in XP?

>>

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> How to construct a good post..

>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

 

 

It isn't more complicated really. OK, some things appear to have moved.

 

--

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How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

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Mike's Window - My Blog..

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

news:8dpMj.177937$pM4.80377@pd7urf1no...

>

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

>>I

>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

>> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>

>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>

>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> computers

>> and I understand why.

>>

>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

> Genie,

>

> Others suggest you buy add on packages for fax, this may or may not be the

> way to go.

>

> $69 for a fax program seems like a lot. Plus relearning and installing.

> Especially if you have to do this for say 3-4 programs like this.

>

> A better route _might_ be to consider a downgrade in the OS to XP. Most

> local PC stores should be selling XP Home OEM for about $100. If you have

> to upgrade 2 programs @ $69 then XP downgrade may be better and less

> expensive as you also get the better performance and familiarity of XP.

>

> If you need drivers say for a sound card, you can go to the vendors site

> and download/install them for free.

>

> Your assertion that Vista is for those that must have MS-NextToy is

> correct. XP is a better system for a production - business critical use.

> That is also why business adoption of Vista is near zero. And it is

> likely business is going to skip Vista altogether like it did with WinMe.

>

 

 

Snappy Fax is $30!!

 

--

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How to construct a good post..

http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

Mike's Window - My Blog..

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

LOL!

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Edward Eisenheim" wrote:

>

>

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

> > I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

> > I

> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

> >

> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

> >

> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> > and I understand why.

> >

> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

> >

> >

> >

>

> Yeah, Vista sucks. A sophisticated user like you should have no problem

> installing XP Home Addition.

>

>

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:26:01 -0700, genie <denie@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

>had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

>computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

 

I wouldn't say it's for guru's, anymore than any other OS by windows.

>

>I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

>The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

>and I understand why.

Schools operate by budget. Vista is NOT cheap. It's the MOST expensive OS

windows ever created.

>

>Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

 

In Windows Vista:

Click the Windows Start button ().

Click All Programs.

Click Windows Fax and Scan.

 

right there in the 'help and support section on FAX. Course that doesn't mean

it's there. It's not there on my machine. The word fax can't be found anywhere

on my machine, but that could also be because I've never enabled the modem and

possibly didn't install anything re: fax. You need to use a modem, because IIRC

fax still operates at best at 14400 baud. or 9600.

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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>

> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or WinFax

> (Pro)

 

False. I've been using it since 02 and it works great, no problems

whatsoever.

 

>

> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user is

> the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax which,

> incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants. In fact,

> many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

 

Before XP, I used Windows 2000 fax and before that 98 and 95 fax. All

worked wonderfully, although XP's is better than the others.

 

Alias

"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fttho1$ffo$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>>>

>>

>> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or WinFax

>> (Pro)

>

> False. I've been using it since 02 and it works great, no problems

> whatsoever.

>

>

>>

>> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

>> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user is

>> the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax which,

>> incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants. In fact,

>> many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>

> Before XP, I used Windows 2000 fax and before that 98 and 95 fax. All

> worked wonderfully, although XP's is better than the others.

>

> Alias

 

 

It's false because you used it? Ha

 

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http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

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Mike's Window - My Blog..

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

news:QdidnR2739Qwtp_VnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@supernews.com...

> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

> news:%23MsPsxXnIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>> properties right away?

>

>>

>> LOL

>>

>> You have made a good point there

>

> The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

> clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

 

I tried it.

 

Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though the

hardware is much newer and faster.

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

news:GbsMj.178778$pM4.74389@pd7urf1no...

> I tried it.

>

> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though the

> hardware is much newer and faster.

 

Must be you then. Mine was as instantaneous as XP....

Canuck57 wrote:

> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

> news:QdidnR2739Qwtp_VnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@supernews.com...

>

>>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

>>news:%23MsPsxXnIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>>Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>>>properties right away?

>>

>>>LOL

>>>

>>>You have made a good point there

>>

>>The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

>>clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>

>

> I tried it.

>

> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though the

> hardware is much newer and faster.

>

>

I thought you said you got rid of Vista that was on your wife's laptop.

So why are you here?

Frank

Gordon wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:8GpMj.12951$Jf2.6706@fe71.usenetserver.com...

>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>> properties right away?

>>

>> Nope, now you are sent to a local web page and have to read it to find

>> out where you can change your display props.

>

> Eh? R/Click, choose Graphics Properties-Display Settings. What's hard

> about that?

 

There is no "Graphics Properties-Display Settings" when right clicking on

the Desktop that is a default part of Vista.

 

Thanks for playing.

 

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Former Self-anointed Moderator

microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fttho1$ffo$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or

>>> WinFax (Pro)

>>

>> False. I've been using it since 02 and it works great, no problems

>> whatsoever.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

>>> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user

>>> is the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax

>>> which, incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x

>>> variants. In fact, many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>>

>> Before XP, I used Windows 2000 fax and before that 98 and 95 fax. All

>> worked wonderfully, although XP's is better than the others.

>>

>> Alias

>

>

> It's false because you used it? Ha

>

 

I like it. You don't. Do you even use a fax for anything, Mike? I use it

every day.

 

Alias

Bob Campbell wrote:

> "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

> news:fttch7$39r$1@news.mixmin.net...

>>>> Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

>>>

>>> Like I said - someone is clueless.

>>

>> Or just trolling.....

>

> Same thing.

 

Are you guys done with your line jerk?

 

From the initial Personalize page you can't change one setting. You've

gotta do some more clicking to get to other pages to change any setting.

 

Not so with XP. Plus it was the basically the same as W2K, and 9x before

that.

 

Personalize is just change for the sake of change, not for ease of use.

 

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Former Self-anointed Moderator

microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

vista is the worst operating system ever made by microsoft...

 

make sure you tell everyone your opinion

 

thanks for giving your simple user feedback, its a thing for the vista-guru

wanabies and franktrolls to read again and again until if ever it reaches

their puny brain

 

 

"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6B828F07-7C07-45BA-B50D-BFB098B40494@microsoft.com...

> the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

> everything.

> On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

> even compatible with Vista. From reading some of the other comments,

> SnappyFax is not a very good program. Also, why would Microsoft supply a

> fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

> everyday home owner?

>

> Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is

> "Novice".

> I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are already on the

> computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have to try to

> figure

> out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that in home use I

> don't

> need. XP supplied everything I needed without all the frills.

>

> Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program

> and

> figure out what we need.

> gl

>

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>> >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>> >If I

>> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>> > was

>> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if

>> > it

>> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>> > for

>> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>> >

>> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>> >

>> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> > computers

>> > and I understand why.

>> >

>> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>> >

>> >

>> gl

>>

>>

>> Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

>>

>> What else can't you do that you could in XP?

>>

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> How to construct a good post..

>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

Gordon wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:7aqMj.12956$Jf2.6041@fe71.usenetserver.com...

>>

>> Many if not most Small businesses didn't get W2K but ME when purchasing

>> a new computer back in 2000-2001.

>>

>>

> Well that was their own look-out then. They certainly didn't have to,

> and if they did, they either didn't do their homework properly, or their

> IT suppliers were to blame.

> Sorry, don't buy that as an excuse.

 

It's not an excuse, it was the reality back then. I'm sorry for you that

you don't like History as it really was, but that's your problem, not

mine, or anyone else's.

 

 

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Former Self-anointed Moderator

microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>Most home users hated the Windows Fax program

 

not on this planet... where do you come from starman?

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message

news:u%23GZviYnIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Answers inline

>

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6B828F07-7C07-45BA-B50D-BFB098B40494@microsoft.com...

>> the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

>> everything.

>>

>

> No more complicated than when you fiorst used XP..

>

>> On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

>> even compatible with Vista.

>>

>

> I understand that there is a free version somewhere that works.

>

>> From reading some of the other comments,

>> SnappyFax is not a very good program.

>>

>

> 99% of all feedback seen by me tells me that Snappy is a very good program

>

>>Also, why would Microsoft supply a

>> fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

>> everyday home owner?

>>

>

> Most home users hated the Windows Fax program, preferring BVRP or WinFax

> (Pro)

>

>>

>> Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is

>> "Novice". I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are

>> already on the computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have

>> to try to figure out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that

>> in home use I don't need. XP supplied everything I needed without all

>> the frills.

>>

>

> 'Work' computers are tailored to do the job which you have been employed

> to do. Home computers are aimed squarely at general use. For the novice,

> Vista does not have any more to confuse than XP ever had.

>

>> Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program

>> and figure out what we need.

>> gl

>>

>

> Microsoft don't want you to pay out for anything. It is not in their

> interests. And the only program feature missing for the 'novice' user is

> the most hated of all integrated Windows mini-apps, Windows Fax which,

> incidentally, was NOT installed by default Windows 9x variants. In fact,

> many never even knew it was on the Win 9x CD..

>

>>

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

>>

>>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>> >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>>> >If I

>>> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>>> > was

>>> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if

>>> > it

>>> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>>> > for

>>> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>> >

>>> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>> >

>>> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>>> > computers

>>> > and I understand why.

>>> >

>>> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> gl

>>>

>>>

>>> Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

>>>

>>> What else can't you do that you could in XP?

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>> How to construct a good post..

>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

> It isn't more complicated really. OK, some things appear to have moved.

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message

news:%23oUcJjYnIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

> news:8dpMj.177937$pM4.80377@pd7urf1no...

>>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

>>>I

>>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>>> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>>> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>>> for

>>> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>>

>>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>>

>>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>>> computers

>>> and I understand why.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>>

>> Genie,

>>

>> Others suggest you buy add on packages for fax, this may or may not be

>> the way to go.

>>

>> $69 for a fax program seems like a lot. Plus relearning and installing.

>> Especially if you have to do this for say 3-4 programs like this.

>>

>> A better route _might_ be to consider a downgrade in the OS to XP. Most

>> local PC stores should be selling XP Home OEM for about $100. If you

>> have to upgrade 2 programs @ $69 then XP downgrade may be better and less

>> expensive as you also get the better performance and familiarity of XP.

>>

>> If you need drivers say for a sound card, you can go to the vendors site

>> and download/install them for free.

>>

>> Your assertion that Vista is for those that must have MS-NextToy is

>> correct. XP is a better system for a production - business critical use.

>> That is also why business adoption of Vista is near zero. And it is

>> likely business is going to skip Vista altogether like it did with WinMe.

>>

>

>

> Snappy Fax is $30!!

 

This page says $69.

 

http://www.snappysoftware.com/jsorderform.htm#checkorder

the excuse for this stupid and horrible design was to make it easier for

even a granny to use... that's what an MSFT idiot said. I say its worse than

the way XP had, in which you could see all the tabs and select..

In IE they added tabs, in the display settings they removed tabs...

 

I don't see any logic behind this.. vista is a pile of CRAP like no other

 

I would gladly slap the idiot who thought of this across his face with a

rotten fish

 

 

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

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>

> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>>>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>>> properties right away?

>>

>>>

>>> LOL

>>>

>>> You have made a good point there

>>

>> The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

>> clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>

> I tried it.

>

> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though the

> hardware is much newer and faster.

>

you mr clamshell are clueless

 

let me ask you this

 

on xp you are in display properties and with the tabs you can switch with

one click to go to themes, screensavers, desktop(wallpaper), but in VISTA

CRAPISTA you have to close the window and open another from that horrid list

of items that makes you wanna puke..

 

ITS BAD DESIGN YOU MORON!

 

 

 

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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> "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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>>> Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my

>>> display properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds,

>>> Display Settings, Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

>>

>>

>> Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

>

> Like I said - someone is clueless.

>

>

It isn't available in Vista Basic and no-so Premium versions.

 

Does amaze me, like file sharing, Premium isn't so premium. Missing all

sorts of stuff. Just adding fax to the list.

 

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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:26:01 -0700, genie <denie@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

>had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

>computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

 

I wouldn't say it's for guru's, anymore than any other OS by windows.

>

>I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

>The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

>and I understand why.

Schools operate by budget. Vista is NOT cheap. It's the MOST expensive OS

windows ever created.

>

>Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

 

In Windows Vista:

Click the Windows Start button ().

Click All Programs.

Click Windows Fax and Scan.

 

right there in the 'help and support section on FAX. Course that doesn't

mean

it's there. It's not there on my machine. The word fax can't be found

anywhere

on my machine, but that could also be because I've never enabled the modem

and

possibly didn't install anything re: fax. You need to use a modem, because

IIRC

fax still operates at best at 14400 baud. or 9600.

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Sam wrote:

> If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an MS hater looking for

> reasons to hate Vista. I mean honestly, 1 extra click from XP? Is that

> really so bad?

 

Yeah. When older is easier, why would I want to change?

 

> Is it too hard for you to figure out?

 

No. I have no problems figuring it out. But when tasks become more

difficult instead of easier, it that a good change or a bad change?

 

To me, ease of use is more important than eye candy changes.

 

For you, you might prefer all the bells, whistle, and flashy lights

rather than ease of use. Some people like to get whipped too.

 

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Former Self-anointed Moderator

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> There is no "Graphics Properties-Display Settings" when right clicking on

> the Desktop that is a default part of Vista.

>

 

Well there is in MY "default" Vista. Thanks for exhibiting your

ignorance....

Why are YOU here clown?

Never seen anything good or helpful from you...

 

now why is that? Because you are worthless! thats why

 

 

 

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message

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> Canuck57 wrote:

>> "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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>>

>>>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>>>

>>>>>Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>>>>properties right away?

>>>

>>>>LOL

>>>>

>>>>You have made a good point there

>>>

>>>The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

>>>clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

>>

>>

>> I tried it.

>>

>> Yep, 3 clicks each. However Vista was noticeably slower even though the

>> hardware is much newer and faster.

> I thought you said you got rid of Vista that was on your wife's laptop.

> So why are you here?

> Frank

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>

> Are you guys done with your line jerk?

>

> From the initial Personalize page you can't change one setting. You've

> gotta do some more clicking

 

Yes - ONE click.

Just like in XP.

 

IDIOT.