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Posted April 13, 200816 yr

I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

and I understand why.

Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

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"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>

> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> and I understand why.

>

> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

gl

Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

What else can't you do that you could in XP?

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Windows Fax and Scan is only found in the Vista Business

and Ultimate editions, not in Vista Home Premium.

Consider purchasing a dedicated fax program such as Snappy Fax:

http://www.snappysoftware.com/

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"genie" wrote:

I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

and I understand why.

Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

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"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>

> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> and I understand why.

>

> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

Though Vista might still have a few bugs left...

and though you may have to use a 3rd party fax program...

Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not like...

the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

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"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>

> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> and I understand why.

>

> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

Genie,

Others suggest you buy add on packages for fax, this may or may not be the

way to go.

$69 for a fax program seems like a lot. Plus relearning and installing.

Especially if you have to do this for say 3-4 programs like this.

A better route _might_ be to consider a downgrade in the OS to XP. Most

local PC stores should be selling XP Home OEM for about $100. If you have

to upgrade 2 programs @ $69 then XP downgrade may be better and less

expensive as you also get the better performance and familiarity of XP.

If you need drivers say for a sound card, you can go to the vendors site and

download/install them for free.

Your assertion that Vista is for those that must have MS-NextToy is correct.

XP is a better system for a production - business critical use. That is

also why business adoption of Vista is near zero. And it is likely business

is going to skip Vista altogether like it did with WinMe.

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philo wrote:

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>>If I

>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>> was anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would

>> if it didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears

>> to be for computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>

>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>

>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> computers and I understand why.

>>

>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

> Though Vista might still have a few bugs left... and though you may have

> to use a 3rd party fax program...

>

> Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

>

> Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not

> like... the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

properties right away?

Nope, now you are sent to a local web page and have to read it to find

out where you can change your display props.

So with XP I get into display properties much faster on a 6 year old

computer, than I can with vista on a brand spanking new computer.

Gotta love that change for the sake of change Vista crap.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> philo wrote:

>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>>>If I

>>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>>> was anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would

>>> if it didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears

>>> to be for computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>>

>>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>>

>>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>>> computers and I understand why.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>>

>> Though Vista might still have a few bugs left... and though you may have

>> to use a 3rd party fax program...

>>

>> Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

>>

>> Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not

>> like... the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

>

> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

> properties right away?

>

<snip>

LOL

You have made a good point there

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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

>>I

>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

>> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>

>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>

>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> computers

>> and I understand why.

>>

>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

> Though Vista might still have a few bugs left...

> and though you may have to use a 3rd party fax program...

More than a few.

> Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

Depends on a few factors.

> Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not

> like...

> the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

If one spends the time and customizes it. It is quite different out of the

box. If for say they were used to classic, they would need to change it

back to classic. There is also the issue that stuff seems to have moved

around quite a bit. There is a learning curve in there.

As for features, the only one I can think of is gadgets. But really not a

big deal. Glass/aero gets dry after the flash and awe wears off, which was

pretty quick for me. It is XP but has put on 500 pounds.

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"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

> I

> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>

> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>

> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> and I understand why.

>

> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>

Yeah, Vista sucks. A sophisticated user like you should have no problem

installing XP Home Addition.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

> properties right away?

>

> Nope, now you are sent to a local web page and have to read it to find

> out where you can change your display props.

Eh? R/Click, choose Graphics Properties-Display Settings. What's hard about

that?

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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>> properties right away?

>

> LOL

>

> You have made a good point there

The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

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"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

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> XP is a better system for a production - business critical use.

Can you elaborate? As a retired Systems Accountant I find NO DIFFERENCE in

"productivity" between XP and Vista. Users just use Office in both OS's -

it's NOT the Users's job to mess with the OS.

> That is also why business adoption of Vista is near zero.

As a Systems Accountant again, Vista has been out for just over a year. Many

large corporations are now upgrading machines on a four year cycle as

opposed to three and many just haven't reached the replacement date.

> And it is likely business is going to skip Vista altogether like it did

> with WinMe.

ME was not an NT-based OS - businesses went straight from W98 to Windows

2000. That's why it was skipped. The fact that it was an awful OS is nothing

to do with it...

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Bob Campbell wrote:

> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>>> Really? I can right click on the desktop and get into my display

>>> properties right away?

>

>> LOL

>>

>> You have made a good point there

>

> The only point is that someone is clueless. Both XP and Vista take 3

> clicks from the desktop to get to the display properties "right away".

Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

display properties in XP.

2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

page first.

It seems that it is you that is clueless, Booby.

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the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

everything.

On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

even compatible with Vista. From reading some of the other comments,

SnappyFax is not a very good program. Also, why would Microsoft supply a

fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

everyday home owner?

Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is "Novice".

I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are already on the

computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have to try to figure

out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that in home use I don't

need. XP supplied everything I needed without all the frills.

Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program and

figure out what we need.

gl

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

> >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

> >

> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

> >

> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> > and I understand why.

> >

> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

> >

> gl

>

> Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

>

> What else can't you do that you could in XP?

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

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Gordon wrote:

> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

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>> XP is a better system for a production - business critical use.

>

> Can you elaborate? As a retired Systems Accountant I find NO DIFFERENCE

> in "productivity" between XP and Vista. Users just use Office in both

> OS's - it's NOT the Users's job to mess with the OS.

>

>> That is also why business adoption of Vista is near zero.

>

> As a Systems Accountant again, Vista has been out for just over a year.

> Many large corporations are now upgrading machines on a four year cycle

> as opposed to three and many just haven't reached the replacement date.

>

>> And it is likely business is going to skip Vista altogether like it

>> did with WinMe.

>

> ME was not an NT-based OS - businesses went straight from W98 to Windows

> 2000. That's why it was skipped. The fact that it was an awful OS is

> nothing to do with it...

Many if not most Small businesses didn't get W2K but ME when purchasing a

new computer back in 2000-2001.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>

> Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

> display properties in XP.

>

> 2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

> page first.

>

And it's only THREE in Vista. R/Click on Desktop, Graphics

Properties-Display settings.

And I have NO idea what this "personalised" web page is that you are

blathering on about...

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>

> Many if not most Small businesses didn't get W2K but ME when purchasing a

> new computer back in 2000-2001.

>

Well that was their own look-out then. They certainly didn't have to, and if

they did, they either didn't do their homework properly, or their IT

suppliers were to blame.

Sorry, don't buy that as an excuse.

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> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>>

>> Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

>> display properties in XP.

>>

>> 2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

>> page first.

>>

>

> And it's only THREE in Vista. R/Click on Desktop, Graphics

> Properties-Display settings.

> And I have NO idea what this "personalised" web page is that you are

> blathering on about...

Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my display

properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds, Display Settings,

Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

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"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

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> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message

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>>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>>>I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If

>>>I

>>> had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

>>> anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

>>> didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>>> for

>>> computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>>>

>>> I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>>>

>>> The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>>> computers

>>> and I understand why.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>>

>> Though Vista might still have a few bugs left...

>> and though you may have to use a 3rd party fax program...

>

> More than a few.

>

>> Vista is certainly no more complicated to use than XP.

>

> Depends on a few factors.

>

>> Other than having a few additional features that you may or may not

>> like...

>> the gui looks and operates the same way as XP

>

> If one spends the time and customizes it. It is quite different out of

> the box. If for say they were used to classic, they would need to change

> it back to classic. There is also the issue that stuff seems to have

> moved around quite a bit. There is a learning curve in there.

>

> As for features, the only one I can think of is gadgets. But really not a

> big deal. Glass/aero gets dry after the flash and awe wears off, which

> was pretty quick for me. It is XP but has put on 500 pounds.

>

Yes...the first thing I did when I was testing Vista was turn the GUI right

back to Windows classic

and set the system for best performance.

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Genie,

If Gateway has XP drivers for your laptop, it should be a simple matter to

install XP on it. I checked the support web pages for my Dell laptop, and

it is all there for "downgrading" to XP, except for a copy of XP itself,

which I already have. It also appears that Dell at least still gives you

the option of XP or Vista pre-installed, although they recommend Vista. (I

assume that's because Microsoft gives them a better deal on Vista, their

"cut" is bigger.) I bought the Dell at WalMart and pre-installed Vista was

all they had. Although it sucks big time I have come to an understanding

with it. I figure if 300 lb. welfare mothers with big hair, 100 lb redheads

who smoke a lot and truck jockeys can use Vista, I can too.

Good luck,

Earle

"genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

> everything.

> On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

> even compatible with Vista. From reading some of the other comments,

> SnappyFax is not a very good program. Also, why would Microsoft supply a

> fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

> everyday home owner?

>

> Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is

> "Novice".

> I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are already on the

> computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have to try to

> figure

> out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that in home use I

> don't

> need. XP supplied everything I needed without all the frills.

>

> Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program

> and

> figure out what we need.

> gl

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

>

>> "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

>> >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded.

>> >If I

>> > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there

>> > was

>> > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if

>> > it

>> > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be

>> > for

>> > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

>> >

>> > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

>> >

>> > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our

>> > computers

>> > and I understand why.

>> >

>> > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

>> >

>> gl

>>

>> Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

>>

>> What else can't you do that you could in XP?

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> How to construct a good post..

>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

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>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>>>

>>> Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

>>> display properties in XP.

>>>

>>> 2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

>>> page first.

>>>

>>

>> And it's only THREE in Vista. R/Click on Desktop, Graphics

>> Properties-Display settings.

>> And I have NO idea what this "personalised" web page is that you are

>> blathering on about...

>

> Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my

> display properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds, Display

> Settings, Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

Same here.

Apparently, that is just too much for some folks to comprehend...

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>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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>>>

>>> Right Click on Desktop. Left click on Properties. Boom I'm into my

>>> display properties in XP.

>>>

>>> 2 Clicks in XP, and you don't have to read a localized Personalize web

>>> page first.

>>>

>>

>> And it's only THREE in Vista. R/Click on Desktop, Graphics

>> Properties-Display settings.

>> And I have NO idea what this "personalised" web page is that you are

>> blathering on about...

>

> Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my

> display properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds, Display

> Settings, Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

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All you have to do as a new user is to click on the Vista blue start

button and then click on "Help and Support". Next, have the user click

on the topic titled "What's new?". There are many excellent tutorials

offered, including detailed tutorial videos.

--

Carey Frisch

Microsoft MVP

Windows Desktop Experience -

Windows System & Performance

"genie" wrote:

> the OS system just seems more complicated and you have to search for

> everything.

> On XP you can download the simply version of PhoneTools, but that is not

> even compatible with Vista. From reading some of the other comments,

> SnappyFax is not a very good program. Also, why would Microsoft supply a

> fax/scan for businesses or the more expensive programs and not for the

> everyday home owner?

>

> Also, you overlook the key word in my original email. the word is "Novice".

> I use a computer everyday in my job, but the programs are already on the

> computer. And I have no problem at all. But I don't have to try to figure

> out which one is best and get a lot of extra stuff that in home use I don't

> need. XP supplied everything I needed without all the frills.

>

> Now Microsoft wants us to pay for things that was part of the XP program and

> figure out what we need.

> gl

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

>

> > "genie" <denie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:C1263104-F8AA-457A-8764-FFE5B59DC9E9@microsoft.com...

> > >I bought a new Gateway Laptop with Vista Home Premium already loaded. If I

> > > had a choice, I would never have Vista on this computer and if there was

> > > anyway to get it off and back to Windows XP Home Addition, I would if it

> > > didn't cost me an arm and leg. I am a novice and Vista appears to be for

> > > computer guru's. also I can't even fax from this program.

> > >

> > > I have written to Gateway suggesting they give you a choice.

> > >

> > > The largest school system in my state will not load Vista on our computers

> > > and I understand why.

> > >

> > > Any suggestions how to fax from this OS since it was included in XP.

> > >

> > gl

> >

> > Try Snappy Fax.. http://www.snappysoftware.com

> >

> > What else can't you do that you could in XP?

> >

> > --

> > Mike Hall - MVP

> > How to construct a good post..

> > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> > Mike's Window - My Blog..

> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

> >

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April 13, 200816 yr

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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>> Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my

>> display properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds,

>> Display Settings, Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

>

> Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

Like I said - someone is clueless.

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"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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> "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

> news:fttc1a$2s7$1@news.mixmin.net...

>>> Right click on Desktop. Left click Personalize. Boom I'm into my

>>> display properties in Vista. Window colors, Themes, Backgrounds,

>>> Display Settings, Screen Saver, etc. Just like XP.

>>

>> Well that's even BETTER than XP. What's kurttrail wittering on about?

>

> Like I said - someone is clueless.

>

Or just trolling.....

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