Hadron wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:

>

>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

>> 47fa51bd$0$11299$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 9:54 AM:

>>

>>>>> My reply was to Hadron.

>>>> Correct.

>>>>

>>>>> Yes I believe that some of the distros are ready

>>>>> for the desktop. That's why I am using Linux.

>>>> And yet you claim that in order to get Linux to have good looks,

>>>> consistency, well thought out organization, etc., I need to make my own

>>>> distro or alter one.

>>> If your so stupid you can't think for yourself.

>> I am not... nor am I interested in off-topic insults. If that is what you

>> are looking for I suggest you speak with someone else.

>

> I didn't think it would take caver1 long for his obvious ignorance about

> what is being discussed to convert itself into personal attacks.

>

>>>>> No goal posts moved. Not everyone wants the looks of Ubuntu. Some hate

>>>>> it. I think Ubuntu has a good organization, some such as you think not.

>>>>> And yes looks is in the eye of the beholder.

>>>>> Your wants are different than someone else's. If you want to do the

>>>>> dance that's your prerogative. I did not tell you to do it.

>>>>> If you like whatever distro then use that one, help that one. But don't

>>>>> complain about Linux in general because you don't like some of the

>>>>> distros.

>>>> The problem is throughout the distros - not tied to one.

>>> Then if you hate it so much why are you here?

>

> Sigh. It's like Rick all over again.

>

>> Hate? Hate what? Again you seem lost. Of the Linux distros I prefer

>> Ubuntu - while PCLOS and others are better organized and have a far more

>> professional look, Ubuntu is the distro that is most focused on consistency

>> and general user issues. I think it has done more good for Linux than any

>> other distro in a long time.

>

> Sad isn't it? He sees constructive criticism and a desire to see things

> improve as "hatred". What is wrong with these COLA "advocates"?

>

>>

>>>>> Or as you stated above- "I should do the distro dance and when that

>>>>> fails make my own or just improve on others."

>>>>> Yes help improve and quit complaining that someone else wants to build

>>>>> their own to satisfy their needs. You don't have to use theirs so why

>>>>> complain.

>>>>> Not everyone agree on what common sense is and from the looks of it I

>>>>> don't think you use much.

>>>> It is common sense to want general consistency, well thought out

>>>> organization, and a decent look designed by a pro.

>>> True, and there is general consistency within the distros that I have

>>> tried.

>

> LOL. Blind as well as in denial.

>

>> I have shown you where both PCLOS and Ubuntu are far off that mark (though

>> Ubuntu at least makes an attempt!)

>>

>>> Not perfect but improving all the time.

>> Agreed.

>>

>>> Personally I like the

>>> look of several of them. Or you can even change it yourself. Or have

>>> someone else do it for you.

>>> Even my Mom told me to quit coming crying to her if I couldn't learn to

>>> not do what was hurting me. And that was from a pro. If you don't like

>>> a distro don't use it.

>

> Your Mum is a pro? Whatever that means.

>

>> Who said anything about liking or disliking? And why talk about your

>> mom?

>

> Strange isn't it?

>

>>> If someone else put something out there it is out of the kindness of

>>> his/her heart hoping someone else out there likes it or can get benefit

>>> out of it. No one holds a gun to your head forcing you to use it.

>

> Whoever said you did? The point is whether its a good idea to release

> more garbage "out of the kindness of your heart". If I allowed a dog to

> do its "doggy things" on your doorstep out of the "kindness of my

> heart" would you be grateful?

>

>> Of course not. You sure go off topic a lot.

>

> I'm not sure he understands what the message is here. I think Rick might

> have got it earlier than caver1.

>

 

 

 

Tell me where one of the duds that I don't even use hurts me. You

complain about someone making another Tetris game. So what? What does

that have to do with an OS. Yes there are a lot of Tetris games. But

there is also in other OS's.

As far as calling names I believe you started that long before I.

How many more car makes do we need? So then the Tesla shouldn't be made,

or maybe the Delorian? If they are not viable they will die out. But why

stop anyone from trying? Or should we get your approval before we do

anything. Maybe there should be a committee to decide who gets to have

kids. After all there sure are a lot of bad ones out there, ugly ones too.

And in your vein of keeping an argument befuddled, what does dogshit

have to do with this thread?

Lets say you are right Hadron. Who gets to decide whats in the program? You?

Seems to me there are a lot more here that disagree with you than not.

caver1

"caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

47fa88c0$0$17328$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 1:49 PM:

 

....

>> I'm not sure he understands what the message is here. I think Rick might

>> have got it earlier than caver1.

>>

> Tell me where one of the duds that I don't even use hurts me.

 

Other than the fact that you find it hard to stay on topic or follow a

thought it is not really possible to know where you have been "hurt".

> You

> complain about someone making another Tetris game. So what? What does

> that have to do with an OS. Yes there are a lot of Tetris games. But

> there is also in other OS's.

> As far as calling names I believe you started that long before I.

 

You called me names. I certainly did not start that between you and I - nor

have I returned the "favor".

> How many more car makes do we need? So then the Tesla shouldn't be made,

> or maybe the Delorian? If they are not viable they will die out. But why

> stop anyone from trying? Or should we get your approval before we do

> anything. Maybe there should be a committee to decide who gets to have

> kids. After all there sure are a lot of bad ones out there, ugly ones too.

> And in your vein of keeping an argument befuddled, what does dogshit

> have to do with this thread?

 

See how you keep jumping to the idea of people being forced. Why?

> Lets say you are right Hadron. Who gets to decide whats in the program? You?

> Seems to me there are a lot more here that disagree with you than not.

 

You left the topic behind long ago. Why?

 

 

--

Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly

slow, inaccurate and brilliant together they are powerful beyond

imagination. - attributed to Albert Einstein, likely apocryphal

o you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)

>

>>>>>> Or as you stated above- "I should do the distro dance and when that

>>>>>> fails make my own or just improve on others."

>>>>>> Yes help improve and quit complaining that someone else wants to build

>>>>>> their own to satisfy their needs. You don't have to use theirs so why

>>>>>> complain.

>>>>>> Not everyone agree on what common sense is and from the looks of it I

>>>>>> don't think you use much.

>>>>> It is common sense to want general consistency, well thought out

>>>>> organization, and a decent look designed by a pro.

>>>> True, and there is general consistency within the distros that I have

>>>> tried.

>> LOL. Blind as well as in denial.

>

> Images and videos are not strong enough support. :)

>

 

 

I can show you problems on machines that I have had that many others didn't.

I agreed that there was a better way to copy and paste. It also didn't

take me long to figure out not to close a program that I was copying

from until I had pasted. Then I went looking for an answer-glipper.

not perfect but better.

As far as the problems with PclinuxOs I can't address them as I don't

use it because I don't like it. But you don't here me badmouthing all of

Linux because of that. So you showed me something how do I know you

didn't doctor it to show what you want. As popular as PcLinuxOs is the

majority don't have that problem. And what does Dud Distro have to do

with that problem in PcLinuxOs?

Being that the improvements greatly out weigh most of the problems give

them praise. It will change as time continues.

caver1

Snit wrote:

> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

> 47fa88c0$0$17328$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 1:49 PM:

>

> ...

>>> I'm not sure he understands what the message is here. I think Rick might

>>> have got it earlier than caver1.

>>>

>> Tell me where one of the duds that I don't even use hurts me.

>

> Other than the fact that you find it hard to stay on topic or follow a

> thought it is not really possible to know where you have been "hurt".

>

>> You

>> complain about someone making another Tetris game. So what? What does

>> that have to do with an OS. Yes there are a lot of Tetris games. But

>> there is also in other OS's.

>> As far as calling names I believe you started that long before I.

>

> You called me names. I certainly did not start that between you and I - nor

> have I returned the "favor".

 

 

 

you really answered that one. You'd make a fine politician.

 

 

>> How many more car makes do we need? So then the Tesla shouldn't be made,

>> or maybe the Delorian? If they are not viable they will die out. But why

>> stop anyone from trying? Or should we get your approval before we do

>> anything. Maybe there should be a committee to decide who gets to have

>> kids. After all there sure are a lot of bad ones out there, ugly ones too.

>> And in your vein of keeping an argument befuddled, what does dogshit

>> have to do with this thread?

>

> See how you keep jumping to the idea of people being forced. Why?

 

Where did anyone say force in the above?

 

 

>> Lets say you are right Hadron. Who gets to decide whats in the program? You?

>> Seems to me there are a lot more here that disagree with you than not.

>

> You left the topic behind long ago. Why?

>

>

 

 

IN your esteemed mind just what is the topic that you jumped into?

 

caver1

"caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

47fa901e$0$17360$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 2:20 PM:

> Snit wrote:

>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

>> 47fa88c0$0$17328$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 1:49 PM:

>>

>> ...

>>>> I'm not sure he understands what the message is here. I think Rick might

>>>> have got it earlier than caver1.

>>>>

>>> Tell me where one of the duds that I don't even use hurts me.

>>

>> Other than the fact that you find it hard to stay on topic or follow a

>> thought it is not really possible to know where you have been "hurt".

>>

>>> You

>>> complain about someone making another Tetris game. So what? What does

>>> that have to do with an OS. Yes there are a lot of Tetris games. But

>>> there is also in other OS's.

>>> As far as calling names I believe you started that long before I.

>>

>> You called me names. I certainly did not start that between you and I - nor

>> have I returned the "favor".

>

> you really answered that one. You'd make a fine politician.

 

I noted that you have been calling me names and I have not sunk to your

level. That is truth. Deal with it and let it go - I prefer to talk about

Linux.

>>> How many more car makes do we need? So then the Tesla shouldn't be made,

>>> or maybe the Delorian? If they are not viable they will die out. But why

>>> stop anyone from trying? Or should we get your approval before we do

>>> anything. Maybe there should be a committee to decide who gets to have

>>> kids. After all there sure are a lot of bad ones out there, ugly ones too.

>>> And in your vein of keeping an argument befuddled, what does dogshit

>>> have to do with this thread?

>>

>> See how you keep jumping to the idea of people being forced. Why?

>

> Where did anyone say force in the above?

 

You talked about stopping people and about the need to get approval, etc.

Why?

>>> Lets say you are right Hadron. Who gets to decide whats in the program? You?

>>> Seems to me there are a lot more here that disagree with you than not.

>>

>> You left the topic behind long ago. Why?

>>

>>

>

>

> IN your esteemed mind just what is the topic that you jumped into?

 

You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

Oh well.

 

--

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and

conscientious stupidity. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

Snit wrote:

> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

> 47fa901e$0$17360$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 2:20 PM:

>

>> Snit wrote:

>>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

>>> 47fa88c0$0$17328$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 1:49 PM:

>>>

>>> ...

>>>>> I'm not sure he understands what the message is here. I think Rick might

>>>>> have got it earlier than caver1.

>>>>>

>>>> Tell me where one of the duds that I don't even use hurts me.

>>> Other than the fact that you find it hard to stay on topic or follow a

>>> thought it is not really possible to know where you have been "hurt".

>>>

>>>> You

>>>> complain about someone making another Tetris game. So what? What does

>>>> that have to do with an OS. Yes there are a lot of Tetris games. But

>>>> there is also in other OS's.

>>>> As far as calling names I believe you started that long before I.

>>> You called me names. I certainly did not start that between you and I - nor

>>> have I returned the "favor".

>> you really answered that one. You'd make a fine politician.

>

> I noted that you have been calling me names and I have not sunk to your

> level. That is truth. Deal with it and let it go - I prefer to talk about

> Linux.

>

>>>> How many more car makes do we need? So then the Tesla shouldn't be made,

>>>> or maybe the Delorian? If they are not viable they will die out. But why

>>>> stop anyone from trying? Or should we get your approval before we do

>>>> anything. Maybe there should be a committee to decide who gets to have

>>>> kids. After all there sure are a lot of bad ones out there, ugly ones too.

>>>> And in your vein of keeping an argument befuddled, what does dogshit

>>>> have to do with this thread?

>>> See how you keep jumping to the idea of people being forced. Why?

>> Where did anyone say force in the above?

>

> You talked about stopping people and about the need to get approval, etc.

> Why?

>

>>>> Lets say you are right Hadron. Who gets to decide whats in the program? You?

>>>> Seems to me there are a lot more here that disagree with you than not.

>>> You left the topic behind long ago. Why?

>>>

>>>

>>

>> IN your esteemed mind just what is the topic that you jumped into?

>

> You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

> Oh well.

>

 

 

 

There is no problem about talking about weaknesses. But the way the

thread turn was against Linux in general which is no good. Notice Hadron

backed out and you try to change the subject when it doesn't go your way.

caver1

"caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

47fac251$0$17354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 5:54 PM:

>> You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

>> Oh well.

>>

>

>

>

> There is no problem about talking about weaknesses. But the way the

> thread turn was against Linux in general which is no good. Notice Hadron

> backed out and you try to change the subject when it doesn't go your way.

 

I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop Linux,

namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the distro that

handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on things other

distros do better - such as the better graphical design of PCLOS.

 

You jumped to the conclusion that I am a Windows user (it is not my primary

OS - I use it at home only in virtualization) and assumed I hated Linux.

You even showed a bad side of yourself in name calling. I find that a

shame.

 

To be fair I can understand, to some extent, your erroneous assumptions:

there are those who come to the OS-based groups and try to stir up

discontent. While I do not shy away from controversial issues and do not

pretend any OS is as flawless as many of the "advocates" claim, I prefer

when discussions lead to mutual learning and respect. I note some of your

less stellar moments, above, but you also handled *my* mistake of referring

to the clipboard replacement incorrectly (a rather silly mistake given your

reference to it was right above mine!) You did not sink to trolling me over

that as many others in Usenet would.

 

 

 

 

--

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:

> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

> 47fac251$0$17354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 5:54 PM:

>

>>> You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

>>> Oh well.

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> There is no problem about talking about weaknesses. But the way the

>> thread turn was against Linux in general which is no good. Notice Hadron

>> backed out and you try to change the subject when it doesn't go your

>> way.

 

Backed out? I gave up when it became apparent you didn't have a clue

what we were discussing - namely the inherent weaknesses in the OSS

model in causing fragmentation across the various Linux desktops and so

on. No one is held to account so there is no quality control.

 

>

> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop Linux,

> namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the distro that

> handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on things other

> distros do better - such as the better graphical design of PCLOS.

>

> You jumped to the conclusion that I am a Windows user (it is not my primary

> OS - I use it at home only in virtualization) and assumed I hated Linux.

> You even showed a bad side of yourself in name calling. I find that a

> shame.

>

> To be fair I can understand, to some extent, your erroneous assumptions:

> there are those who come to the OS-based groups and try to stir up

> discontent. While I do not shy away from controversial issues and do not

> pretend any OS is as flawless as many of the "advocates" claim, I prefer

> when discussions lead to mutual learning and respect. I note some of your

> less stellar moments, above, but you also handled *my* mistake of referring

> to the clipboard replacement incorrectly (a rather silly mistake given your

> reference to it was right above mine!) You did not sink to trolling me over

> that as many others in Usenet would.

 

--

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marketing machine was anything other than a last ditch attempt to try and

foster *some* interest in XP ?

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caver1 wrote:

> It is true that some distros do better than other distros at some things

> and others not at all. But you can't stop them from trying. The weeds

> will be rooted out.

 

Snit's a troll and/or a crank. You'll soon get tired of his constant drip

and killfile him.

 

--

RonB

"There's a story there...somewhere"

Snit wrote:

> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

> 47fac251$0$17354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 5:54 PM:

>

>>> You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

>>> Oh well.

>>>

>>

>>

>> There is no problem about talking about weaknesses. But the way the

>> thread turn was against Linux in general which is no good. Notice Hadron

>> backed out and you try to change the subject when it doesn't go your way.

>

> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop Linux,

> namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the distro that

> handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on things other

> distros do better - such as the better graphical design of PCLOS.

>

> You jumped to the conclusion that I am a Windows user (it is not my primary

> OS - I use it at home only in virtualization) and assumed I hated Linux.

> You even showed a bad side of yourself in name calling. I find that a

> shame.

>

> To be fair I can understand, to some extent, your erroneous assumptions:

> there are those who come to the OS-based groups and try to stir up

> discontent. While I do not shy away from controversial issues and do not

> pretend any OS is as flawless as many of the "advocates" claim, I prefer

> when discussions lead to mutual learning and respect. I note some of your

> less stellar moments, above, but you also handled *my* mistake of referring

> to the clipboard replacement incorrectly (a rather silly mistake given your

> reference to it was right above mine!) You did not sink to trolling me over

> that as many others in Usenet would.

>

>

>

>

 

 

The problem I have is similar to yours but the other side of the coin.

I don't like those that are always finding fault. There is a place for

both but either to excess is not good.

You notice that the thread was taking one direction that Hadron likes

when you stepped in.

It is true that some distros do better than other distros at some things

and others not at all. But you can't stop them from trying. The weeds

will be rooted out.

"caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

47fad645$0$17355$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 7:19 PM:

> Snit wrote:

>> "caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> stated in post

>> 47fac251$0$17354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on 4/7/08 5:54 PM:

>>

>>>> You simply are not willing to talk about the weaknesses of desktop Linux.

>>>> Oh well.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> There is no problem about talking about weaknesses. But the way the

>>> thread turn was against Linux in general which is no good. Notice Hadron

>>> backed out and you try to change the subject when it doesn't go your way.

>>

>> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop Linux,

>> namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the distro that

>> handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on things other

>> distros do better - such as the better graphical design of PCLOS.

>>

>> You jumped to the conclusion that I am a Windows user (it is not my primary

>> OS - I use it at home only in virtualization) and assumed I hated Linux.

>> You even showed a bad side of yourself in name calling. I find that a

>> shame.

>>

>> To be fair I can understand, to some extent, your erroneous assumptions:

>> there are those who come to the OS-based groups and try to stir up

>> discontent. While I do not shy away from controversial issues and do not

>> pretend any OS is as flawless as many of the "advocates" claim, I prefer

>> when discussions lead to mutual learning and respect. I note some of your

>> less stellar moments, above, but you also handled *my* mistake of referring

>> to the clipboard replacement incorrectly (a rather silly mistake given your

>> reference to it was right above mine!) You did not sink to trolling me over

>> that as many others in Usenet would.

>

> The problem I have is similar to yours but the other side of the coin.

> I don't like those that are always finding fault. There is a place for

> both but either to excess is not good.

 

Sure. Be aware that I hand out Linux CDs fairly regularly to high school

and college students (I am a teacher) - and almost always Ubuntu. I very

much appreciate Linux for what it is - a free OS that allows people to do a

great deal.

> You notice that the thread was taking one direction that Hadron likes

> when you stepped in.

> It is true that some distros do better than other distros at some things

> and others not at all. But you can't stop them from trying. The weeds

> will be rooted out.

 

Things have gotten *much* better over the last few years and will likely

continue to. My "pet peeve" with Linux is the lack of UI consistency - a

weakness that does effect productivity, learning time, risks users data,

etc. There are, of course, other areas in need of focus but we all have our

own areas of interest.

 

 

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"Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Linux is ultimately customisable. Don't like the look and feel? Change

> it. Don't like particular window manager? Change it. Don't like

> Standard Ubuntu? Change it. There are slight forks such as OpenGeu

> that should satisfy the eye candy addicts.

>

As is every operating system. Why don't you say something people don't know.

On 2008-04-10, ysdywmf <ysdywmf@ysdywmf.com> wrote:

>

> "Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:660dgaF2i9hduU1@mid.individual.net...

>

>

>> Linux is ultimately customisable. Don't like the look and feel? Change

>> it. Don't like particular window manager? Change it. Don't like

>> Standard Ubuntu? Change it. There are slight forks such as OpenGeu

>> that should satisfy the eye candy addicts.

>>

> As is every operating system. Why don't you say something people don't know.

 

Not really.

 

The early attempts at replacement window managers for Windows made

this painfully obvious. Some systems are designed from the ground up

to be modular and others aren't.

 

Don't even get me started about virtual desktop managers for Windows.

Those vary from "almost but not quite there" to just downright horrid. The

Microsoft one falls in that latter category.

 

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>Quack trolled:

>>

>> It's like talking to a brick wall. It's not all about what we may or may

>> not do. It's about whether it's a good idea or not for the general good

>> of Linux and its advancement.

 

Indeed, it is like talking to a brick wall, Quack. It's already been

explained to you why it is NOT a good idea. The "cons" outweigh the

"pros", and by a *considerable* margin.

 

Idiot.

 

--

"This choice thing is a joke."

 

-- "true Linux advocate" Hadron Quark.

Re: Yet Another Dud Windows Release -- Vista ME

 

chrisv wrote:

>>Quack trolled:

>>>

>>> It's like talking to a brick wall. It's not all about what we may or may

>>> not do. It's about whether it's a good idea or not for the general good

>>> of Linux and its advancement.

>

> Indeed, it is like talking to a brick wall, Quack.  It's already been

> explained to you why it is NOT a good idea.  The "cons" outweigh the

> "pros", and by a considerable margin.

>

> Idiot.

 

Vista ME must be a real DUD when even Gartner Group trashes it:

 

"Another problem seems to be Windows' rapidly-expanding code base, which

makes it incredibly difficult to quickly come up with significant changes

for a new version. The proof for this was Vista, as Microsoft switched back

to the more stable code of Windows Server 2003 for Vista’s foundation,

after seeing no relevant progress in five years of development efforts.

 

"This is a large part of the reason [why] Windows Vista delivered primarily

incremental improvements," analysts said. "Most users do not understand the

benefits of Windows Vista or do not see Vista as being better enough than

Windows XP to make incurring the cost and pain of migration worthwhile."

 

http://www.enews20.com/news_Windows_Is_Collapsing_Gartner_Says_07207.html

 

Ouch!

 

--

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"There's a story there...somewhere"

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:46:54 -0700, Snit wrote:

> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop

> Linux, namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the

> distro that handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on

> things other distros do better - such as the better graphical design of

> PCLOS.

>

 

I think I'll "suffer" these UI weaknesses and let the Windows people keep

their weaknesses like Spyware, viruses and Microsoft's incompetence.

Re: Yet Another Dud Linux^h^h^h^h^hTroll Post.

 

Frank Stallone wrote:

> Snit wrote:

>

>> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of

>> desktop Linux, namely that its UI is inconsistent and that

>> if you go with the distro that handles this problem best

>> (Ububtu) you end up losing out on things other distros do

>> better - such as the better graphical design of PCLOS.

>

> I think I'll "suffer" these UI weaknesses and let the Windows

> people keep their weaknesses like Spyware, viruses and

> Microsoft's incompetence.

 

UI weaknesses? Balderdash, the UI is perfectly usable. There is

nothing to inhibit usage.

 

The only UI weakness is the NNTP protocol, which inhibits making

troll writing elegant. Gobshite is no more pretty formatted than

unformatted.

 

Snit's lack of worthy posting content makes him an ideal first

candidate for the kill file. This is especially true, since his

post has little to do with Windows XP and Vista.

 

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HPT

"Frank Stallone" <askMe@hotmail.com> stated in post

O8adncwyR6POA53VnZ2dnUVZ8tjinZ2d@bt.com on 4/12/08 4:34 AM:

> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:46:54 -0700, Snit wrote:

>

>> I know my comments have been about some of the weaknesses of desktop

>> Linux, namely that its UI is inconsistent and that if you go with the

>> distro that handles this problem best (Ububtu) you end up losing out on

>> things other distros do better - such as the better graphical design of

>> PCLOS.

>>

>

> I think I'll "suffer" these UI weaknesses and let the Windows people keep

> their weaknesses like Spyware, viruses and Microsoft's incompetence.

 

Fair enough - use what you like. I prefer an OS that suffers from neither

problem... and would like to see Linux on the desktop gain both strengths as

well (it already has one!)

 

 

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"The music is not inside the piano." - Alan Kay

Frank Stallone wrote:

> I think I'll "suffer" these UI weaknesses and let the Windows people keep

> their weaknesses like Spyware, viruses and Microsoft's incompetence.

 

Ditto.

 

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RonB

"There's a story there...somewhere"

Snit wrote:

> Fair enough - use what you like.  I prefer an OS that suffers from neither

> problem... and would like to see Linux on the desktop gain both strengths

> as well (it already has one!)

 

Then write your own or shut the hell up.

 

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RonB

"There's a story there...somewhere"

Re: Yet Another Dud Windows Release -- Vista ME

 

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:03:45 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:

> RonB wrote:

>> High Plains Thumper wrote:

>>

>>> [Hadron quote] Once more for the hard of brain power : I use

>>> testing. Not unstable. And I use it for a reason - Debian

>>> Stable is simply too buggy and backward and I cant be arsed

>>> to manage pinning or selectively monitoring backports.

>>> [/Hadron quote]

>>

>> Hadron doesn't want Linux to work -- so he finds ways to make

>> it *not* work for him. You've got to give him a little credit,

>> something like that is not that easy to do.

>

> It is, if someone is paying you to do it, IMHO. It's all a part

> of his, *ahem*, their agenda.

 

62 pages of a thread relating to Ubuntu freezing doesn't exactly back up

the claim that screwing up Linux isn't easy to do.

 

 

 

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Moshe Goldfarb

Collector of soaps from around the globe.

Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:

http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Re: Yet Another Dud Windows^h^h^h^h^h^h^hTroll Post

 

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> High Plains Thumper wrote:

>> RonB wrote:

>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:

>>>

>>>> [Hadron quote] Once more for the hard of brain power : I

>>>> use testing. Not unstable. And I use it for a reason -

>>>> Debian Stable is simply too buggy and backward and I

>>>> cant be arsed to manage pinning or selectively

>>>> monitoring backports. [/Hadron quote]

>>>

>>> Hadron doesn't want Linux to work -- so he finds ways to

>>> make it *not* work for him. You've got to give him a

>>> little credit, something like that is not that easy to do.

>>

>> It is, if someone is paying you to do it, IMHO. It's all a

>> part of his, *ahem*, their agenda.

>

> 62 pages of a thread relating to Ubuntu freezing doesn't

> exactly back up the claim that screwing up Linux isn't easy to

> do.

 

This has nothing to do with Windows XP, nor Windows Vista, but

since you cross posted them to these newsgroups indicates your

agenda to troll.

 

Here is it well explained what your agenda is, from someone who

normally would not respond to your trolling:

 

http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/01/moshe-goldfarb-troll.html

> Anonymous said...

>

> New poster to comp.os.linux.advocacy tells profound truth

> about Moshe AKA Flatfish:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/6m6a8c

>

> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.linux.ubuntu

> Subject: Re: [News] Red Hat Developer's Update on PulseAudio,

> Fedora Live CDs Interview

> Message-ID:

> Xns9A7D9779E7902thisnthatadelphianet@66.250.146.128

> Date: 11 Apr 2008 18:53:55 GMT

>

>

>> Dan, you're probably a nice guy, but we get a ton of "works

>> for me" crap in COLA and most times it's just people telling

>> lies.

>

> Well sorry to dissapoint you, but I'm not in COLA. I'm reading

> these posts in the Ubuntu group. The only reason they are

> going to COLA is because whomever started the thread had it

> crossposted there...and to Vista groups, which I removed

> because this has nothing to do with Vista.

>

> I'm NOT a Linux pusher, I still use Windows most of the time

> since I'd just installed Linux a few weeks ago, maybe a month+

> ago, and still checking out apps and learning Linux. There are

> things I like and things I don't like.

>

> Believe what you want to believe. It's painfully obvious that

> you are completely anti-Linux, just like some are completely

> anti-MS, and have such strong preconceived beliefs that it

> doesn't really matter what anyone says about any particular

> Linux item, everyone's a liar, and nothing works

> out-of-the-box.

> [/Quote]

 

You can't even tell the truth about Linux, I would expect even

less for other operating systems.

 

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HPT

Re: Yet Another Dud Windows Release -- Vista ME

 

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:

 

> It is all a part of their evangelistic jihad:

 

We already know that...

So what is it that makes you Linux zealots so afraid of Microsoft?

 

Even by your own words Microsoft is going bankrupt, has no products that

people are interested int and so forth.

 

So why the fear?

 

 

--

Moshe Goldfarb

Collector of soaps from around the globe.

Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:

http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Re: Yet Another Dud Windows Release -- Vista ME

 

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> High Plains Thumper wrote:

>

>> It is all a part of their evangelistic jihad:

>

> We already know that... So what is it that makes you Linux

> zealots so afraid of Microsoft?

>

> Even by your own words Microsoft is going bankrupt, has no

> products that people are interested int and so forth.

>

> So why the fear?

 

I had posted that which you heavily snipped removing any worthy

context. Then you post this reply, cross posting to

alt.os.windows.xp, microsoft.public.windows.vista.general and

alt.os.linux.ubuntu, which I never had intended as an audience,

adding your little twisted spins.

 

You're human engineering of insinuating emotional feelings that

are non existent are not appreciated. It goes to show that you

are nothing more than a fraudulent habitual liar, incapable of

expressing the truth, preferring instead to pollute other

newsgroups by your off-topic cross posts.

 

Most have you kill filed and rightly so. You provide no useful

input of any kind into the newsgroups you troll. Most would

appreciate it if you simply FOAD.

 

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HPT