Re: Linux hits 0.61% on March!

 

About the stats of web page visits:

I know these stats are flawed for the simple reason that many many

sights I visit when on my other system using firefox on linux, I must

change the settings to tell the websites I am using windows. This is a

common setup. Many firefox and opera users even with windows setup

the browser to tell websites they use IE because the connection is

often refused otherwise. Granted there are less refusals than just 3

years ago, but this is still a fact.

I still use Vista. BUT I still use LInux also because when I need

uptime with NO problems, no reboots, no freezing, no local only

access, etc..

BUT,

Windows is mainstream, not Linux.(at least for now)

 

<begin vent>

 

A 747 may be a lots better plane, but when I need to land on my farm,

IT WILL NOT DO THE JOB same as my Cessna won't fly to China!

 

So, from my viewpoint, all this argueing doesn't help anyone and

people who continue to reply multiple times to the same arguement just

ain't helping those here who need it. It is difficult getting help

already without having to read 2 hours worth of who can piss the

fartherest just to find out the cure for a simple problem.

 

<end vent>

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0400, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

>"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

>news:Q0PIj.150325$pM4.126436@pd7urf1no...

>>Supper good point.

>

>Yeah supper was good last night.

>

>>How can they measure it?

>

>By counting web page hit stats, from over 40,000 web sites. The same way

>they are counting every other OS. What, don't Linux users web surf?

>

>> The stats are flawed. Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

>

>Ah, more "estimates".

>

>> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

>> are using Linux,

>

>You are assuming the "estimate" is correct.

>

>> and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are 5,409,836,065 PCs

>> out there and we know that isn't true.

>

>Right, so therefore the 33 million number must be wrong. That's nearly as

>many users as OS X has, and no one believes that Linux has as many users as

>OS X.

>

>> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

>> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

>> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

>

>So you are saying that EVERY PC sold last year came with Vista? But I

>thought "no one wanted Vista"?

>

>Instead of making up numbers to suit your agenda, why not use the real

>numbers? There were about 233 million PCs sold in 2006, 255 million sold in

>2007, 208 million in 2005. These numbers are easily found, do some

>searching like I did.

>

>That's nearly 700 million in just 3 years. That works out to around 1

>billion sold in the last 5 years.

>

>90+% are running windows - that makes about 900 million - not counting

>servers. That means about 6,100,000 are running Linux - not counting

>servers. Seems about right to me, considering MS "estimates" there will be

>a billion PCs running Windows sometime in 2008.

Re: Linux hits 0.61% on March!

 

"willajabir" <willajabir@spam.net> wrote in message

news:5c48v3h2fjsfdupagotbgf3bdojvp3re9a@4ax.com...

> About the stats of web page visits:

> I know these stats are flawed for the simple reason that many many

> sights I visit when on my other system using firefox on linux, I must

> change the settings to tell the websites I am using windows.

 

Right. Standard Linux Loonie spin.

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:20:32 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous wrote:

>

>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>

>>> That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there for

>>> fear of getting a virus or trojan or something.

>>

>> Run Linux. You won't have to worry. :)

>

> Sure.

>

> Tell that to Roy Schestowitz who had his LINUX based website hacked and

> 0wned a couple of weeks ago.

>

>

>>> My advice to anyone is to use the OS that supports the applications you

>>> need to run.

>>

>> Linux runs all the applications you need to run.

>

> No it doesn't.

> And it doesn't for a vast number of people which is why virtually nobody

> is using it as a desktop system.

>

>

>> Except for "viruses or trojans or something".

>>

>> *snicker*

>

> See Roy Schestowitz who had a trojan embedded in his website and was

> infecting God knows how many users who visted him.

>

Surely you mean Windoze users? If that is the case, maybe it was there on

purpose? So how many hours did it take for you to clean the virus off your

toy operating system? Was it fun Mr. Soap Suds?

 

Cheers.

 

--

The world can't afford the rich.

 

alt.os.linux.ubuntu - where the lunatic Hadron is a "Linux advocate"

 

Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...

Download it here: http://tinyurl.com/2hnof6

Alias wrote:

> Canuck57 wrote:

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fstklo$a96$3@aioe.org...

>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>

>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>

>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>

>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>

>>>>>

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>> Market Share.

>>>>

>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>

>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

>>>> market share.

>>>>

>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Supper good point. How can they measure it? The stats are flawed.

>> Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

>>

>> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

>> are using Linux, and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are

>> 5,409,836,065 PCs out there and we know that isn't true.

>>

>> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

>> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

>> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

>>

>> These paid for Microsoft numbers are just part of their FUD war on Linux.

>>

>> Red Hat sales are up nicely too. Quite popular where these pollsters

>> don't go too.

>>

>>

>

> The Franks, Bill Yawns and Steve Ballmers of the world are scared

> sh¡tless that people will leave Windows en masse once they've learned

> how much better Linux is over Windows.

>

> Alias

 

They're also sweating because of what Intel is going to be releasing in

June. And, it'll be running Linux!

 

Cheers.

 

--

 

A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

Next?

What? wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>> What? wrote:

>>

>> What?

>>

>

What?

 

--

 

A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

Next?

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

>

>

>> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report as

>> "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that Ubuntu is

>> experiencing. I can't install them for people who want to get rid of

>> Vista fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now. I have yet to

>> have anyone ask me to remove Ubuntu and install *any* version of Windows.

>

> So it is hard to install then.

> I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them for a

> demo.

> I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

 

Most of installing, be it XP or Ubuntu is waiting for something to

finish. I can start three machines quite quickly and then just visit

each one when something needs to be clicked and they'll all be done in

around an hour and a half if Ubuntu, 4 hours (or more if something fuçks

up) if XP -)

 

Alias

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>>> playing

>>>> Minesweeper.

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of

>>> you lying linux trolls.

>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that

>>> POS toy os you keep pushing?

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

> But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You dumb stupid POS! I don't play any games whatsoever. So I don't know

> what games are included in any OS be they Windows, Mac or any linux distro.

 

Then why did you ask, a stupid moment again?

> Best you stick with your sheep and your butt-buddies, onthepot and

> kurtsie...LOL!

> Frank

 

Leave the comedy to the professionals. You're not even an amateur.

 

Alias

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ft0ii5$cv2$1@aioe.org...

>> Frank wrote:

>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>>

>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>>> playing

>>>> Minesweeper.

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of you

>>> lying linux trolls.

>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that POS

>>> toy os you keep pushing?

>>> Frank

>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question. But,

>> you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I have installed Ubuntu and it's crap. Not worth the price of the product!

> Oops. It's FREE and nobody wants it? What does that say about that F'ed up

> product?

>

>

 

It says you're too attached to Windows and should seek help.

 

Alias

I Would not Be At All Surprised If Linux Gets An Evan Bigger Market Share As

Intel's New Low End Processor That Is Coming Out Later This Year Will Be

Unable 2 Run Windows Vista Service Pack One RTM According 2 A Recent

Neowin.Net Article, Just FYI. This Means That If Microsoft Cuts Off Sales Of

OEM Windows XP Edition's On July 1st (Like They Are Currently Planning 2 Do)

OEM's Will Have No Choice But 2 Bundle Intel's New Low End CPU With Various

Edition's Of Linux, Just FYI. You Can Read The Rest of The Story At

http://www.neowin.net Just FYI.

 

"NoStop" wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

> > Canuck57 wrote:

> >> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:fstklo$a96$3@aioe.org...

> >>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> >>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

> >>>>>

> >>>>> The future looks bright :-)

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

> >>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

> >>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

> >>>> Market Share.

> >>>>

> >>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

> >>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

> >>>>

> >>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

> >>>> market share.

> >>>>

> >>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

> >>>

> >>> Alias

> >>

> >> Supper good point. How can they measure it? The stats are flawed.

> >> Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

> >>

> >> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

> >> are using Linux, and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are

> >> 5,409,836,065 PCs out there and we know that isn't true.

> >>

> >> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

> >> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

> >> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

> >>

> >> These paid for Microsoft numbers are just part of their FUD war on Linux.

> >>

> >> Red Hat sales are up nicely too. Quite popular where these pollsters

> >> don't go too.

> >>

> >>

> >

> > The Franks, Bill Yawns and Steve Ballmers of the world are scared

> > sh¡tless that people will leave Windows en masse once they've learned

> > how much better Linux is over Windows.

> >

> > Alias

>

> They're also sweating because of what Intel is going to be releasing in

> June. And, it'll be running Linux!

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

>

> A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

> Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

> This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

> Next?

>

NoStop wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Canuck57 wrote:

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fstklo$a96$3@aioe.org...

>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>

>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>

>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

>>>>> market share.

>>>>>

>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> Supper good point. How can they measure it? The stats are flawed.

>>> Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

>>>

>>> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

>>> are using Linux, and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are

>>> 5,409,836,065 PCs out there and we know that isn't true.

>>>

>>> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

>>> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

>>> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

>>>

>>> These paid for Microsoft numbers are just part of their FUD war on Linux.

>>>

>>> Red Hat sales are up nicely too. Quite popular where these pollsters

>>> don't go too.

>>>

>>>

>> The Franks, Bill Yawns and Steve Ballmers of the world are scared

>> sh¡tless that people will leave Windows en masse once they've learned

>> how much better Linux is over Windows.

>>

>> Alias

>

> They're also sweating because of what Intel is going to be releasing in

> June. And, it'll be running Linux!

>

> Cheers.

>

 

So, inquiring minds want to know, what's Intel cooking up now?

 

Heh, I bought a new HP Desk Jet All-In-One yesterday. With Windows, you

had to endure the 30 minute install with the usual reboot. With Ubuntu,

I plugged it in and it immediately recognized the printer and scanner

with out so much as one click for the printer and with the scanner, all

I had to do is open XSane Image Scanner and it picked up on the scanner

in the process of opening and was ready to go. All in all, it took me

two clicks of the mouse and the install was less than a minute. Beat

that, Vista. Hah!

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>

>>> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report as

>>> "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that Ubuntu is

>>> experiencing. I can't install them for people who want to get rid of

>>> Vista fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now. I have yet to

>>> have anyone ask me to remove Ubuntu and install *any* version of

>>> Windows.

>>

>>

>> So it is hard to install then.

>> I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them for

>> a demo.

>> I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

>

>

> Most of installing, be it XP or Ubuntu is waiting for something to

> finish. I can start three machines quite quickly and then just visit

> each one when something needs to be clicked and they'll all be done in

> around an hour and a half if Ubuntu, 4 hours (or more if something fuçks

> up) if XP -)

>

> Alias

 

Under 45 mins for Vista.

Install it from a flash drive, 15-20 mins., and sometimes 10 mins is

possible.

You lose...LOL!

Frank

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>>>> playing

>>>>> Minesweeper.

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of

>>>> you lying linux trolls.

>>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in

>>>> that POS toy os you keep pushing?

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

>>

>> But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>>

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> You dumb stupid POS! I don't play any games whatsoever. So I don't

>> know what games are included in any OS be they Windows, Mac or any

>> linux distro.

>

>

> Then why did you ask, a stupid moment again?

 

Reading comprehension problems again?

Goes right along with dealing with the true huh?

Frank

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Alias wrote:

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ft0ii5$cv2$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>>>> playing

>>>>> Minesweeper.

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of

>>>> you lying linux trolls.

>>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in

>>>> that POS toy os you keep pushing?

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

>>> But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> I have installed Ubuntu and it's crap. Not worth the price of the

>> product! Oops. It's FREE and nobody wants it? What does that say

>> about that F'ed up product?

>>

>>

>

> It says you're too attached to Windows and should seek help.

>

> Alias

Funny c

coming from a fanatical lying linux troll zealot.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Canuck57 wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fstklo$a96$3@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>

>>

>>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

>>>>>> market share.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Supper good point. How can they measure it? The stats are flawed.

>>>> Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

>>>>

>>>> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

>>>> are using Linux, and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are

>>>> 5,409,836,065 PCs out there and we know that isn't true.

>>>>

>>>> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their

>>>> monopoly-bundling

>>>> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

>>>> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

>>>>

>>>> These paid for Microsoft numbers are just part of their FUD war on

>>>> Linux.

>>>>

>>>> Red Hat sales are up nicely too. Quite popular where these pollsters

>>>> don't go too.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> The Franks, Bill Yawns and Steve Ballmers of the world are scared

>>> sh¡tless that people will leave Windows en masse once they've learned

>>> how much better Linux is over Windows.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> They're also sweating because of what Intel is going to be releasing in

>> June. And, it'll be running Linux!

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>

> So, inquiring minds want to know, what's Intel cooking up now?

>

> Heh, I bought a new HP Desk Jet All-In-One yesterday. With Windows, you

> had to endure the 30 minute install with the usual reboot. With Ubuntu,

> I plugged it in and it immediately recognized the printer and scanner

> with out so much as one click for the printer and with the scanner, all

> I had to do is open XSane Image Scanner and it picked up on the scanner

> in the process of opening and was ready to go. All in all, it took me

> two clicks of the mouse and the install was less than a minute. Beat

> that, Vista. Hah!

>

> Alias

 

Clue...you're posting in a Vista ng...not XP or urbuttoo.

Clueless idiot!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

>>>

>>>

>>>> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report

>>>> as "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that Ubuntu

>>>> is experiencing. I can't install them for people who want to get rid

>>>> of Vista fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now. I have yet

>>>> to have anyone ask me to remove Ubuntu and install *any* version of

>>>> Windows.

>>>

>>>

>>> So it is hard to install then.

>>> I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them for

>>> a demo.

>>> I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

>>

>>

>> Most of installing, be it XP or Ubuntu is waiting for something to

>> finish. I can start three machines quite quickly and then just visit

>> each one when something needs to be clicked and they'll all be done in

>> around an hour and a half if Ubuntu, 4 hours (or more if something

>> fuçks up) if XP -)

>>

>> Alias

>

> Under 45 mins for Vista.

 

Including Office, Firefox, Java, Flash, Anti Virus, etc., etc., etc.? I

don't think so ...

 

Oops, you lose (again).

 

Alias

> Install it from a flash drive, 15-20 mins., and sometimes 10 mins is

> possible.

> You lose...LOL!

> Frank

>

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Do You See What Happens When Frank Does Not Take His Pills.

You Got Him All Wound Up On This One....

 

"Frank" wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

> > Bill Yanaire wrote:

> >

> >> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:ft0ii5$cv2$1@aioe.org...

> >>

> >>> Frank wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

> >>>>> playing

> >>>>> Minesweeper.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Cheers.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of

> >>>> you lying linux trolls.

> >>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in

> >>>> that POS toy os you keep pushing?

> >>>> Frank

> >>>

> >>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

> >>> But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

> >>>

> >>> Alias

> >>

> >>

> >> I have installed Ubuntu and it's crap. Not worth the price of the

> >> product! Oops. It's FREE and nobody wants it? What does that say

> >> about that F'ed up product?

> >>

> >>

> >

> > It says you're too attached to Windows and should seek help.

> >

> > Alias

> Funny c

> coming from a fanatical lying linux troll zealot.

> Frank

>

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report

>>>>> as "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that Ubuntu

>>>>> is experiencing. I can't install them for people who want to get

>>>>> rid of Vista fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now. I have

>>>>> yet to have anyone ask me to remove Ubuntu and install *any*

>>>>> version of Windows.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> So it is hard to install then.

>>>> I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them

>>>> for a demo.

>>>> I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Most of installing, be it XP or Ubuntu is waiting for something to

>>> finish. I can start three machines quite quickly and then just visit

>>> each one when something needs to be clicked and they'll all be done

>>> in around an hour and a half if Ubuntu, 4 hours (or more if something

>>> fuçks up) if XP -)

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Under 45 mins for Vista.

>

>

> Including Office, Firefox, Java, Flash, Anti Virus, etc., etc., etc.? I

> don't think so ...

>

> Oops, you lose (again).

>

> Alias

>

>> Install it from a flash drive, 15-20 mins., and sometimes 10 mins is

>> possible.

>> You lose...LOL!

>> Frank

>>

Add 5 mins for all of that.

You lose, but you always lose and you're use to being a loser.

Loser...LOL!

Frank

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message

 

>> Why can't Microsoft use existing standards (ODF)

>

> M$ decided it wasn't extensible enough AFAIK. I am not an expert so I

> couldn't be sure.

 

MS has a long track record of having to invent new formats for their

files: audio formats (WMA) and video formats (WMV) spring to my mind.

And all these formats are kept secret, so interoperability is impossible.

Since Office is their bread-and-butter product (afaik, most of their

revenue comes from Office), there is concern that OOXML will follow in

their tracks.

>> but had to force yet another standard (OOXML) which will continue to

>> make documents unaccessible to those *not* using their programs? Most

>> likely, OOXML will become the default file format when storing office

>> documents and most likeley people will just click "Save" rather than

>> first select a different format.

>

> But as the OOXML format is an iso standard anyone can read or write it.

> If other developers don't support it then blame them. All the other

> formats have been published too.

 

This appears not to be true.

Apparently having a file format accepted as a standard does not mean

that everyone is free to use it, most of all to create files using it.

For one, Microsoft has chosen to specify MP3 as *the* audio format

within documents, and the MP3 format is still covered by patents

(http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080310153345250).

 

Josef

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dennis@home wrote:

> However it should be the web site owners choice.

 

I really do wonder if web designers really choose to keep non-IE users

out or if this just comes with the tools they use. I doubt that my

cousin from down under deliberately uses DOC files to keep me from

reading her mails (or at least having to go into great lengths to do so).

 

Microsoft has a track record of trying everything to keep competitors

out. As long as there is *real* competition, this is OK: just chose

another vendor. However, with the market domination Microsoft has, even

official bodies worry about this and start antitrust investigations.

 

I just wish Microsoft would use their power with more conscience, or, as

someone in a move once said: "With great power comes great responsibility".

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Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:20:54 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>

>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>>> Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user

>>>> uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the

>>>> computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people

>>>> (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use

>>>> another OS.

>>>>

>>>> *That's* the difference.

>>> Noble, however most people just want to get work done not go on some

>>> religious pilgrimage.

>> BTW I wasn't fishing for compliments, I was trying to say that even

>> without a multi-billion advertising campaign, even with the windo

>> ocasionally blowing right into our faces, at least one in 163 desktops

>> is running Linux!

>

> Linux desktop useage hovers areoun 0.6 percent.

> The BBC pegged it at 0.8 percent, which I think is a little high.

>

> After 10+ years and considering Linux is free, that's pathetic.

>

 

And your counter-argument is?

 

Again: even without a multi-billion advertising campaign (how much did

Microsoft spend on advertising XP?) and some heavy bullying, Linux runs

on (at least) one in 166 desktops!

 

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report

>>>>>> as "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that

>>>>>> Ubuntu is experiencing. I can't install them for people who want

>>>>>> to get rid of Vista fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now.

>>>>>> I have yet to have anyone ask me to remove Ubuntu and install

>>>>>> *any* version of Windows.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> So it is hard to install then.

>>>>> I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them

>>>>> for a demo.

>>>>> I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Most of installing, be it XP or Ubuntu is waiting for something to

>>>> finish. I can start three machines quite quickly and then just visit

>>>> each one when something needs to be clicked and they'll all be done

>>>> in around an hour and a half if Ubuntu, 4 hours (or more if

>>>> something fuçks up) if XP -)

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> Under 45 mins for Vista.

>>

>>

>> Including Office, Firefox, Java, Flash, Anti Virus, etc., etc., etc.?

>> I don't think so ...

>>

>> Oops, you lose (again).

>>

>> Alias

>>

>>> Install it from a flash drive, 15-20 mins., and sometimes 10 mins is

>>> possible.

>>> You lose...LOL!

>>> Frank

>>>

> Add 5 mins for all of that.

 

Installing Office alone takes longer than that not to mention the

drivers for the audio, chip set and video card. Who do you think you're

fooling?

> You lose, but you always lose and you're use to being a loser.

> Loser...LOL!

> Frank

 

You lie and you know it. The fact that it doesn't bother you is

pathological.

 

Alias

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:58:59 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> But as the OOXML format is an iso standard anyone can read or write it.

 

Anyone who has time to read, comprehend, and retain over 6000 pages of

specification.

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:07:21 -0700, Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>

>> chrisv wrote:

>>

>>

>>>NoStop wrote:

>>>

>>>>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:20:32 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there

>>>>>>>for fear of getting a virus or trojan or something.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Run Linux. You won't have to worry. :)

>>>>>

>>>>>Sure.

>>>>>

>>>>>Tell that to Roy Schestowitz who had his LINUX based website hacked

>>>>>and 0wned a couple of weeks ago.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>>My advice to anyone is to use the OS that supports the

>>>>>>>applications you need to run.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Linux runs all the applications you need to run.

>>>>>

>>>>>No it doesn't.

>>>>>And it doesn't for a vast number of people which is why virtually

>>>>>nobody is using it as a desktop system.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Except for "viruses or trojans or something".

>>>>>>

>>>>>>*snicker*

>>>>>

>>>>>See Roy Schestowitz who had a trojan embedded in his website and was

>>>>>infecting God knows how many users who visted him.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Surely you mean Windoze users? If that is the case, maybe it was

>>>>there on purpose? So how many hours did it take for you to clean the

>>>>virus off your toy operating system? Was it fun Mr. Soap Suds?

>>>>

>>>>Cheers.

>>>

>>>Windows users wouldn't visit Roy's site for any reason.

>>>It took Roy a few days to clean it up.

>>>No Windows users were infected.

>>

>>

>> Well obviously Mr. Soap Suds visited it and it runs Windoze.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

> His linux server got hacked!...LOL!

> That's wonderful, don't you think so...LOL!

> Frank

 

It was hysterical!

 

That arrogant SOB, Roy Schestowitz was actually WARNED, weeks prior to the

final assault on his schestowitz.com site, that something strange was going

on when people visited the site.

 

Of course being the arrogant, narcissistic dweeb that Roy Schestowitz is,

he ignored it because "nothing can happen to me, I am Roy Schestowitz".

 

Ultimately he got 0Wned and his home page was defaced.

Someone else put up a screen shot of the trojan that had been embedded in

Roy Schestowitz' site, http://www.schestowitz.com and that ws infecting users

stupid enough to visit that site.

 

Schestowitz also administers http://www.groklaw.com and a few other sites.

 

God knows what they are infected with due to his ineptness.

 

 

 

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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:40:44 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:20:54 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>

>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>>>> Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user

>>>>> uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the

>>>>> computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people

>>>>> (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use

>>>>> another OS.

>>>>>

>>>>> *That's* the difference.

>>>> Noble, however most people just want to get work done not go on some

>>>> religious pilgrimage.

>>> BTW I wasn't fishing for compliments, I was trying to say that even

>>> without a multi-billion advertising campaign, even with the windo

>>> ocasionally blowing right into our faces, at least one in 163 desktops

>>> is running Linux!

>>

>> Linux desktop useage hovers areoun 0.6 percent.

>> The BBC pegged it at 0.8 percent, which I think is a little high.

>>

>> After 10+ years and considering Linux is free, that's pathetic.

>>

>

> And your counter-argument is?

>

> Again: even without a multi-billion advertising campaign (how much did

> Microsoft spend on advertising XP?) and some heavy bullying, Linux runs

> on (at least) one in 166 desktops!

 

I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find people still using OS/2.....

And your counter argument is?

 

 

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Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:40:44 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>

>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:20:54 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>>

>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

>>>>>> Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user

>>>>>> uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the

>>>>>> computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people

>>>>>> (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use

>>>>>> another OS.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> *That's* the difference.

>>>>> Noble, however most people just want to get work done not go on some

>>>>> religious pilgrimage.

>>>> BTW I wasn't fishing for compliments, I was trying to say that even

>>>> without a multi-billion advertising campaign, even with the windo

>>>> ocasionally blowing right into our faces, at least one in 163 desktops

>>>> is running Linux!

>>> Linux desktop useage hovers areoun 0.6 percent.

>>> The BBC pegged it at 0.8 percent, which I think is a little high.

>>>

>>> After 10+ years and considering Linux is free, that's pathetic.

>>>

>> And your counter-argument is?

>>

>> Again: even without a multi-billion advertising campaign (how much did

>> Microsoft spend on advertising XP?) and some heavy bullying, Linux runs

>> on (at least) one in 166 desktops!

>

> I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find people still using OS/2.....

 

Does OS/2 have 0,7% desktop market share?

IIRC, OS/2 was advertised way back when it was still actively developed.

(if necessary, I can dig through my back-copies of BYTE magazine).

> And your counter argument is?

 

Counter argument against what? If it has a 0.7% market share without

multi-billion-$ advertising campaigns, it must be a good OS. IIRC some

banking people still use it.

 

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