There you go... doesn't take long for your true colors to come out. someone

offers a simple, random observation of OS usage, taken from real life

statistics, and because they don't jive with your twisted sense of reality,

you turn it to what you think of a slam on religion and family values.

 

let me enlighten you a little.

Not everyone in Salt Lake is Mormon,

Mormons DO NOT PRACTICE POLYGAMY.

Unfortunately there is as much crime, social problems and racial issues here

as anywhere else.

Utah is apparently not so "inbred" as to attract companies such as Intel,

Novell, Ebay.. just to name a few.

and apparently 99.4% of the population is smart enough not to use Linux.

 

Clime back under your rock, go play with your feisty fawn, jamin' jeff ,

slippery snake, or whatever idiotic thing their calling the latest distro.

 

A-hole !

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fsun4t22uug@news3.newsguy.com...

> KDE wrote:

>

>> hey, I just offered them as a random sample. My website is a booster

>> club

>> site full of pictures and videos for the local High School. It has

>> nothing

>> to do with Computers, Operating Systems or Browsers. The site is written

>> in

>> plain HTML and all the video is flash, No WMP or Quicktime requirements.

>> Were based in Salt Lake, Utah, USA (not Redmond, WA) in fact were 20

>> miles from Novell's headquarters so we should be more Linux biased than

>> anything else.

>>

> For the "local High School". Now isn't that a good sampling! So you're

> based

> in Salt Lake, Utah. Is that the place where extended families have a whole

> other meaning? Kinda inbred dimwits, so to speak?

>

> Cheers.

>

>>

>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:fsu0rr01n4i@news1.newsguy.com...

>>> KDE wrote:

>>>

>>>> Ok.. can't count purchases, but what about real world usage.

>>>>

>>>> Webstats off my web page for March 08

>>>>

>>>> Operating System Pageviews %

>>>> 1.Windows 19,265 90.42%

>>>> 2.Apple Macintosh 1,868 8.77%

>>>> 3.Linux 990 .46%

>>>> 4.Other 700 .33%

>>>> 5.Mobile Wap 30 .01%

>>>> Total 21,305 100.00%

>>>>

>>> That means nothing! Who comes to your web page and for what reason? I'm

>>> sure

>>> that if one went and looked at the stats from the Ubuntu forums, Linux

>>> would be around 99%. Because those using Linux would tend to access that

>>> web site. If your web site is all about Windoze, then what do you think

>>> the

>>> stats would look like?

>>>

>>> Let's go to say a more neutral place, like w3schools and look at their

>>> stats ...

>>>

>>> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

>>>

>>> Interesting, aren't they? They certainly don't come close to anything

>>> you

>>> report for your small piece of the web.

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fstm380pqf@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

>>>>>>>> market share.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Translation: not enough users so it's market share cannot be

>>>>>> determined.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Again Francis, you've missed the point entirely. Market share cannot

>>>>> be

>>>>> determined because it's FREE and can be installed on as many computers

>>>>> as

>>>>> one wants. There is no way to count how many machines Linux is

>>>>> installed on. I have 6 machines here running Linux. Since they don't

>>>>> need to be "activated", how can they possibly be counted? Please tell

>>>>> me how you think they can be counted.

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>>

>>>>> A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

>>>>> Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

>>>>> This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

>>>>> Next?

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

>>> Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

>>> This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

>>> Next?

>

> --

>

> A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

> Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

> This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

> Next?

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Alias wrote:

> Apply_Directly_To_Forehead wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fstmqs$ilp$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop

>>>>>> market

>>>>>> share.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Translation: not enough users so it's market share cannot be

>>>> determined.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Ahem, a market is where things are bought and sold. Linux does

>>> neither and therefore is not part of a market and it cannot possible

>>> have a market share? Too complicated for you, troll?

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> You are right. Linux/Ubuntu can't have a market share because it's

>> just a blip on the worlds desktops. Nothing to write home about.

>> Will not even make a dent to MS bottom line. They could care less.

>> You keep blowing the Ubuntu horn if it makes you feel better.

>>

>> Ubuntu is just a piece of crap OS that nobody in their right mind

>> would need or want. Geeks play with Ubuntu because they can't get

>> humans to date them.

>>

>> Ubuntu is for losers like Alias and ray and a few other idiots like

>> NoStop and Kevpan the bedpan. Oh yea, Kevpan815 wants to be just like

>> Alias! Another bonus for Ubuntu and Alias !! HA HA HA

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

> No, Windows is for losers like you and Ubuntu is for people who want the

> freedom to use a computer without having to kiss MS' ass and without

> having to worry about viruses and malware.

>

> Alias

You're just a stupid sheep-fukker and a lying linux troll.

Frank

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ft03ha$m9s$3@aioe.org...

>> No, Windows is for losers like you and Ubuntu is for people who want the

>> freedom to use a computer without having to kiss MS' ass and without

>> having to worry about viruses and malware.

>>

>> Alias

>

> No you have it totally wrong. Ubuntu is for pimply headed teenagers who

> can't get a date and for geeks who want to tinker. To get any real work

> done, you need Windows XP or Vista.

 

A lie.

>

> Install a good antivirus and watch where you surf and you should be fine.

 

Yeah, right. New to the Windows computers business?

>

> You can't really do anything with Ubuntu. Look at yourself. All you do each

> and every day is post about Ubuntu. You can't be doing any real work! See

> what I mean?

 

I get real work done every day so, another lie.

>

> Oh yea, you play a few games on your Windows box.

 

Actually, I haven't played any games lately as I am too busy installing

Ubuntu for folks who hate Vista and taking care of other work.

 

Course, it is weird that you think you know what I do with my days but

no one said you aren't weird.

 

Alias

>

>

>

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of

>>>>>>> desktop market

>>>>>>> share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Translation: not enough users so it's market share cannot be

>>>>> determined.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Ahem, a market is where things are bought and sold. Linux does

>>>> neither and therefore is not part of a market and it cannot possible

>>>> have a market share? Too complicated for you, troll?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> Nice fantasy you're having...LOL!

>>> You're really stupid!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Yep, too complicated for the Frankenmonster. Everyone act surprised.

>>

>> Alias

> You're stupid...and we all know it...LOL!

> Frank

 

So, to try and cover up his lack of understanding, the Frankenmonster

hurls another insult. Ho hum, you're so predictable, Frankenmonster.

 

Alias

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Alias wrote:

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ft03ha$m9s$3@aioe.org...

>>

>>> No, Windows is for losers like you and Ubuntu is for people who want

>>> the freedom to use a computer without having to kiss MS' ass and

>>> without having to worry about viruses and malware.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> No you have it totally wrong. Ubuntu is for pimply headed teenagers

>> who can't get a date and for geeks who want to tinker. To get any

>> real work done, you need Windows XP or Vista.

>

>

> A lie.

>

>>The truth. Live with it loser!

>> Install a good antivirus and watch where you surf and you should be fine.

>

>

> Yeah, right. New to the Windows computers business?

 

No, are you?

>

>>

>> You can't really do anything with Ubuntu. Look at yourself. All you

>> do each and every day is post about Ubuntu. You can't be doing any

>> real work! See what I mean?

>

>

> I get real work done every day so, another lie.

 

Surfing the web...LOL!

>

>>

>> Oh yea, you play a few games on your Windows box.

>

>

> Actually, I haven't played any games lately as I am too busy installing

> Ubuntu for folks who hate Vista and taking care of other work.

 

A real lie!!!

>

> Course, it is weird that you think you know what I do with my days but

> no one said you aren't weird.

 

You're a fukkin lying linux troll, a spammer and a bigoted atheist.

IOW's, a real loser...LOL!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>>>>>>>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>>>>>>>> Market Share.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>>>>>>>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of

>>>>>>>> desktop market

>>>>>>>> share.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Translation: not enough users so it's market share cannot be

>>>>>> determined.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Ahem, a market is where things are bought and sold. Linux does

>>>>> neither and therefore is not part of a market and it cannot

>>>>> possible have a market share? Too complicated for you, troll?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Nice fantasy you're having...LOL!

>>>> You're really stupid!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Yep, too complicated for the Frankenmonster. Everyone act surprised.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You're stupid...and we all know it...LOL!

>> Frank

>

>

> So, to try and cover up his lack of understanding, the Frankenmonster

> hurls another insult. Ho hum, you're so predictable, Frankenmonster.

>

> Alias

 

 

You're stupid and we all know it...LOL!

Frank

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ft03ha$m9s$3@aioe.org...

>>

>> No, Windows is for losers like you and Ubuntu is for people who want the

>> freedom to use a computer without having to kiss MS' ass and without

>> having to worry about viruses and malware.

>>

>> Alias

>

> No you have it totally wrong. Ubuntu is for pimply headed teenagers who

> can't get a date and for geeks who want to tinker. To get any real work

> done, you need Windows XP or Vista.

>

> Install a good antivirus and watch where you surf and you should be fine.

>

> You can't really do anything with Ubuntu. Look at yourself. All you do

> each

> and every day is post about Ubuntu. You can't be doing any real work!

> See what I mean?

>

Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides playing

Minesweeper.

 

Cheers.

 

 

--

 

A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

Next?

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:ft0c7k12124@news1.newsguy.com...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ft03ha$m9s$3@aioe.org...

>>>

>>> No, Windows is for losers like you and Ubuntu is for people who want the

>>> freedom to use a computer without having to kiss MS' ass and without

>>> having to worry about viruses and malware.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> No you have it totally wrong. Ubuntu is for pimply headed teenagers who

>> can't get a date and for geeks who want to tinker. To get any real work

>> done, you need Windows XP or Vista.

>>

>> Install a good antivirus and watch where you surf and you should be fine.

>>

>> You can't really do anything with Ubuntu. Look at yourself. All you do

>> each

>> and every day is post about Ubuntu. You can't be doing any real work!

>> See what I mean?

>>

> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

> playing

> Minesweeper.

 

Which WalMart do you work at?

"Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fstklo$a96$3@aioe.org...

> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:

>>

>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!

>>>

>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:

>>>

>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux

>>>

>>> The future looks bright :-)

>>>

>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:

>>>

>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpcustom=Windows+Vista

>>

>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.

>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.

>> Market Share.

>>

>> So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.

>> At least you can say Linux is consistent.

>>

>> After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop market

>> share.

>>

>

> Um, Linux cannot be sold so it therefore has ZERO market share.

>

> Alias

 

Supper good point. How can they measure it? The stats are flawed. Novell

for example estimates 33 million users.

 

The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people are

using Linux, and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are

5,409,836,065 PCs out there and we know that isn't true.

 

MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

 

These paid for Microsoft numbers are just part of their FUD war on Linux.

 

Red Hat sales are up nicely too. Quite popular where these pollsters don't

go too.

NoStop wrote:

> What? wrote:

>

> What?

>

 

What do you want from me? I see some posts here today stating that you

are a lier too. I already figured that you are a lying home user.

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>

> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides playing

> Minesweeper.

>

> Cheers.

>

>

"Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of you

lying linux trolls.

Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that

POS toy os you keep pushing?

Frank

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Frank wrote:

> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>

>>

>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>> playing

>> Minesweeper.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>>

> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of you

> lying linux trolls.

> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that

> POS toy os you keep pushing?

> Frank

 

Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

 

Alias

"Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message

news:ft02v4$pg2$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com...

> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message

>> news:fsvprq$ns1$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com...

>>

>>

>>> I 100% agree to you. Let everyone chose the OS that they want to use.

>>> Let no-one interfere e.g. by making documents accessible only to those

>>> using office systems of one manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by

>>> making web sites accessible only to those using browsers of one

>>> manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by making hardware accessible

>>> only to those using OSes of one manufacturer.

>>

>> Why do you want to remove choice from the people above?

>> What do you have against free choice?

>> Where does it say that if I want to build a site I should have to cater

>> for everyone?

>> Why do you want choice but deny it to others?

>

> You do have a point there, but, personally speaking, if I have to choose

> (pun intended) between *me* having access to information and *others*

> choosing a feature (or maybe just using whatever they got when they bought

> their PC), I'd rather settle for me having access.

>

> Then there is the question whether people really choose to use DOC or

> ActiveX controls or if this was pre-configured and they don't chnage this?

> Maybe some of us think that someone who has so much power to force

> technology onto people should have the moral obligation to make the

> specification for such technology available, so that *all* people can have

> access to the information available.

> Why can't Microsoft use existing standards (ODF)

 

M$ decided it wasn't extensible enough AFAIK. I am not an expert so I

couldn't be sure.

> but had to force yet another standard (OOXML) which will continue to make

> documents unaccessible to those *not* using their programs? Most likely,

> OOXML will become the default file format when storing office documents

> and most likeley people will just click "Save" rather than first select a

> different format.

 

But as the OOXML format is an iso standard anyone can read or write it. If

other developers don't support it then blame them. All the other formats

have been published too.

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>> playing

>>> Minesweeper.

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>>

>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of

>> you lying linux trolls.

>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that

>> POS toy os you keep pushing?

>> Frank

>

>

> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>

> Alias

 

You dumb stupid POS! I don't play any games whatsoever. So I don't know

what games are included in any OS be they Windows, Mac or any linux distro.

Best you stick with your sheep and your butt-buddies, onthepot and

kurtsie...LOL!

Frank

"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message

news:JtMIj.160$DY1.17@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

>

>> "Josef Moellers" <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote in message

>> news:fsvprq$ns1$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com...

>>

>>> I 100% agree to you. Let everyone chose the OS that they want to use.

>>> Let

>>> no-one interfere e.g. by making documents accessible only to those using

>>> office systems of one manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by making

>>> web sites accessible only to those using browsers of one manufacturer.

>>> Let

>>> no-one interfere e.g. by making hardware accessible only to those using

>>> OSes of one manufacturer.

>>

>> Why do you want to remove choice from the people above?

>

> How do you get /that/ interpretation of the above, dennis-at-home?

>

>> What do you have against free choice?

>

> Nothing. Yet you spin his words as if they mean the opposite.

>

> Why are you doing this, dennis-at-home?

>

>> Where does it say that if I want to build a site I should have to cater

>> for

>> everyone?

>

> But, /now/ you are saying /you/ want the option of "removing choice".

>

> Is it me that is confused, or you?

>

>> Why do you want choice but deny it to others?

>

> Ah, it is you that is confused.

 

I bet you feel stupid that you posted that cr@p.

Re: Linux hits 0.61% on March!

 

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message

news:Q0PIj.150325$pM4.126436@pd7urf1no...

>Supper good point.

 

Yeah supper was good last night.

>How can they measure it?

 

By counting web page hit stats, from over 40,000 web sites. The same way

they are counting every other OS. What, don't Linux users web surf?

> The stats are flawed. Novell for example estimates 33 million users.

 

Ah, more "estimates".

> The figure too of 0.61% must be severely flawed. If 33 million people

> are using Linux,

 

You are assuming the "estimate" is correct.

> and this report says 0.61%, then that means there are 5,409,836,065 PCs

> out there and we know that isn't true.

 

Right, so therefore the 33 million number must be wrong. That's nearly as

many users as OS X has, and no one believes that Linux has as many users as

OS X.

> MS for example, just passed 100 million sold with their monopoly-bundling

> this makes it a good indicator of PCs sold at 100m/year. Say 8 years

> average life, that make 800m PCs not 5400m.

 

So you are saying that EVERY PC sold last year came with Vista? But I

thought "no one wanted Vista"?

 

Instead of making up numbers to suit your agenda, why not use the real

numbers? There were about 233 million PCs sold in 2006, 255 million sold in

2007, 208 million in 2005. These numbers are easily found, do some

searching like I did.

 

That's nearly 700 million in just 3 years. That works out to around 1

billion sold in the last 5 years.

 

90+% are running windows - that makes about 900 million - not counting

servers. That means about 6,100,000 are running Linux - not counting

servers. Seems about right to me, considering MS "estimates" there will be

a billion PCs running Windows sometime in 2008.

* dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

> But as the OOXML format is an iso standard anyone can read or write it.

 

Perhaps, if the standard is truly complete.

 

However, if Microsoft decides to implement certain features differently

than is specified in the published standard, and the standard is not

updated in a timely fashion, consumers and developers using that

standard are back to where they are now: using MS Office itself, or

accepting formatting problems to appear when the document is loaded into

other word processors.

>If other developers don't support it then blame them.

 

Given Microsoft's long track record of breaking their own rules, and

their recent rumblings about patents, I sure would get a LOT of legal

advice before even considering writing a product to handle a Microsoft

format.

 

And, in fact, the Microsoft "promise" seems geared to require the usual

agreements and license fees for commercial development.

> All the other formats have been published too.

 

Wayyyyyy too late to be very helpful. Microsoft's need for those

formats to get its office stranglehold ended long ago. And yet they

still delayed and delayed until hit with huge fines.

 

--

I have to say that in 1981, making those decisions, I felt like I was

providing enough freedom for 10 years. That is, a move from 64k to 640k felt

like something that would last a great deal of time. Well, it didn't - it

took about only 6 years before people started to see that as a real problem.

-- Bill Gates, 1989 speech on the history of the microcomputer industry.

"Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

news:ft094k$8tn$1@aioe.org...

 

> Considering that it can't be counted, what the FUD meisters report as

> "market share" is not relevant to the immense growth that Ubuntu is

> experiencing. I can't install them for people who want to get rid of Vista

> fast enough. I'm doing two or three a day now. I have yet to have anyone

> ask me to remove Ubuntu and install *any* version of Windows.

 

So it is hard to install then.

I installed 25 XP machines in 4 hours from DVD when I needed them for a

demo.

I suggest you find a better way to do it. -)

* dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

>> Ah, it is you that is confused.

>

> I bet you feel stupid that you posted that cr@p.

 

What crap?

 

--

The finest pieces of software are those where one individual has a complete

sense of exactly how the program works. To have that, you have to really

love the program and concentrate on keeping it simple, to an incredible

degree.

-- Bill Gates

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut

<linonut@bollsouth.nut>

wrote

on Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:54:35 -0400

<MvRIj.14885$9O.8824@bignews3.bellsouth.net>:

> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

>

>>> Ah, it is you that is confused.

>>

>> I bet you feel stupid that you posted that cr@p.

>

> What crap?

>

 

I would think that the question of whether a web designer

should have the choice of excluding 5% [*] or so of his

potential browsers is an interesting one. It may depend

on the competitiveness of his desired market if he decides

to exclude non-Windows browsers and his competitors don't,

and he is not the market leader, he'll probably get some

rather bad press from it all.

 

[*] the actual number is very squirrelly.

 

--

#191, ewill3@earthlink.net

If your CPU can't stand the heat, get another fan.

 

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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message

news:136dc5-2fp.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut

> <linonut@bollsouth.nut>

> wrote

> on Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:54:35 -0400

> <MvRIj.14885$9O.8824@bignews3.bellsouth.net>:

>> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>

>>>> Ah, it is you that is confused.

>>>

>>> I bet you feel stupid that you posted that cr@p.

>>

>> What crap?

>>

>

> I would think that the question of whether a web designer

> should have the choice of excluding 5% [*] or so of his

> potential browsers is an interesting one. It may depend

> on the competitiveness of his desired market if he decides

> to exclude non-Windows browsers and his competitors don't,

> and he is not the market leader, he'll probably get some

> rather bad press from it all.

>

> [*] the actual number is very squirrelly.

 

However it should be the web site owners choice.

 

I wonder if lino (lino is an old fashioned oil based floor covering BTW) nut

understands why he wrote a load of cr@p yet?

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

"Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

news:ft0ii5$cv2$1@aioe.org...

> Frank wrote:

>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>> playing

>>> Minesweeper.

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>>

>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of you

>> lying linux trolls.

>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that POS

>> toy os you keep pushing?

>> Frank

>

> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question. But,

> you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>

> Alias

 

I have installed Ubuntu and it's crap. Not worth the price of the product!

Oops. It's FREE and nobody wants it? What does that say about that F'ed up

product?

Re: Ubuntu ain't worth a CR@P !!!

 

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

news:u8Q7HzQlIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ft0ii5$cv2$1@aioe.org...

>> Frank wrote:

>>> NoStop, the lying linux idiot wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tell us about the "real work" you get done Mr. Yawn. That's besides

>>>> playing

>>>> Minesweeper.

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> "Minesweeper"...that seems to be the "go to" retort used by most of you

>>> lying linux trolls.

>>> Do you like minesweeper that much? Don't you have minesweeper in that

>>> POS toy os you keep pushing?

>>> Frank

>>

>> Had you installed Ubuntu, you would know the answer to that question.

>> But, you haven't because you *can't* because you're too stupid.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I have installed Ubuntu and it's crap. Not worth the price of the

> product! Oops. It's FREE and nobody wants it? What does that say about

> that F'ed up product?

>

>

 

Actually the product is ok, the marketing dept is cr@p.

They lie in obvious ways.

They think the customers are incredibly stupid.

They tell the customers they are incredibly stupid or worse.

The customer is always wrong.. if it doesn't work the customer must be

deliberately breaking it.

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:20:32 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>

>> That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there for fear

>> of getting a virus or trojan or something.

>

> Run Linux. You won't have to worry. :)

 

Sure.

 

Tell that to Roy Schestowitz who had his LINUX based website hacked and

0wned a couple of weeks ago.

 

>> My advice to anyone is to use the OS that supports the applications you

>> need to run.

>

> Linux runs all the applications you need to run.

 

No it doesn't.

And it doesn't for a vast number of people which is why virtually nobody is

using it as a desktop system.

 

> Except for "viruses or trojans or something".

>

> *snicker*

 

See Roy Schestowitz who had a trojan embedded in his website and was

infecting God knows how many users who visted him.

>> IOW choose your applications first and then your OS.

>

> That's about the damned dumbest thing I've ever read. Like saying

> "build a nice roof, then put a house under it".

 

Really?

You've obviously never worked in Information Technology.

Living in your mother's basement doesn't qualify BTW.

> Intelligent people start with a solid foundation. Being A Wintard

> I'm sure that's a tough concept to wrap your brain around, but it's

> true.

 

Wrong.

Intelligent people choose the applications they need to run and then pick

the OS.

Why?

What if a certain application you need doesn't have say a Linux version?

Then what Jack?

Duhhhhh...... You're not very good at trolling BTW...

 

Next..............

 

 

--

Moshe Goldfarb

Collector of soaps from around the globe.

Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:

http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, dennis@home

<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net>

wrote

on Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:19:54 +0100

<ft0tad$fa$1@news.datemas.de>:

>

>

> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message

> news:136dc5-2fp.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...

>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut

>> <linonut@bollsouth.nut>

>> wrote

>> on Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:54:35 -0400

>> <MvRIj.14885$9O.8824@bignews3.bellsouth.net>:

>>> * dennis@home peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>>

>>>>> Ah, it is you that is confused.

>>>>

>>>> I bet you feel stupid that you posted that cr@p.

>>>

>>> What crap?

>>>

>>

>> I would think that the question of whether a web designer

>> should have the choice of excluding 5% [*] or so of his

>> potential browsers is an interesting one. It may depend

>> on the competitiveness of his desired market if he decides

>> to exclude non-Windows browsers and his competitors don't,

>> and he is not the market leader, he'll probably get some

>> rather bad press from it all.

>>

>> [*] the actual number is very squirrelly.

>

> However it should be the web site owners choice.

 

Indeed it should be, and the only caveat is that the

browser outside the market get an indication that there

will be malfunctions in his browser if he continues,

and that he does so at his own risk. Lockouts are also

acceptable (barely) one would assume the user would

go to the site's competitor in that case.

 

However, this also opens the door to an interesting

form of manipulation Microsoft might very well want to

persuade popular sites to use its tools, and having them

make IE-specific changes.

>

> I wonder if lino (lino is an old fashioned oil based

> floor covering BTW) nut understands why he wrote a

> load of cr@p yet?

>

 

You'll have to ask him. Not my day to read his mind. -)

 

Confirmed on the "Lino", which is short for "linoleum"

in one disambiguation.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lino

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linoleum

 

Unknown as to the use of linseed oil in dessert toppings

or floor waxes.

 

--

#191, ewill3@earthlink.net

Is it cheaper to learn Linux, or to hire someone

to fix your Windows problems?

 

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