kurttrail wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> kurttrail wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> That's funny, cause I've chosen all of our hardware/software and

>>>> signed the checks that paid for them.

>>>> So who is making my choices?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> The company that holds the key to letting you use your hardware and

>>> software.

>>

>>

>> Hey bozo. It is "their" software. I pay to use it. You don't "own" any

>> linux distro. You do know that right?

>

>

> It's a consumer product. So all I know is that I want control of the

> consumer products I purchase.

 

So? I have control over my consumer products.

>

> It's like a music, I wouldn't pay for music if it was wrapped up in DRM,

> so why would I want an OS that is wrapped up in DRM, and limits the way

> I can use my other consumer products that make up my computing environment?

 

MS didn't "invent" DRM, but they do honor the copyrights of others. If

that bothers you (and it sure seems to), then don't purchase DRM goods.

>

>>> Disabled by design.

>>

>>

>> That is a lie! You don't really know what you're talking about do you.

>

>

> DRM - Digital Rights Management.

>

> Technology that manages your rights.

 

No, the rights of those who created the material.

 

Where software code is the master,

> and humans are the its slaves.

 

You no respect of the rights of others do you?

>

>> I never said they couldn't.

>

>

> You are just on your own personal crusade to virtually "ethnically

> cleanse" this group all on your own.

 

What a stupid statement. You've made a lot of those lately.

>

>> Not for me pal! I have a very, very nice reality.

>

>

> Not from the perspective of those that read you lame-assed posts here. I

> wouldn't want to be you, even if given a Billion dollars tax-free.

 

Like I really care! Get a life!

>

>> hehehe...you're lonely and intellectually way of out of your league.

>

>

> Really? It would seem that you are the one that is all alone.

>

> Hello, all of Frank's friend!

>

> [And all that could be heard was an echo dying off into the silence that

> is Frank's closest friend]

>

>> So you're a thief huh?

>

>

> No, I fairly use copyrighted material for the purposes of education, and

> criticism.

 

Sure you do!

>

> "I just love it when a plan comes together."

>

> But then again the concept of "fair use" is way beyond your intellectual

> capacity.

 

Hahaha...sure...got any more of your fantasies you'd like to share?

>

>> Sorry pal, that is just in your little pathetic POS loser mind.

>> Guess what...you don't matter!

>

>

> Yes, I know. The only things that matter to you are the voices in your

> head, and your Almighty MS.

 

Desperate again?

>

> People don't matter to you at all.

 

Getting more desperate huh?

>

>>>

>>>> So what are non-Vista using, MS hating, fanatical zealot lying linux

>>>> trolls doing in this ng?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> I don't know any of those.

>>

>>

>> Look into the mirror loser!

>

>

> 1.) I do have Vista installed, though admittedly I don't use it much.

> 2.) I don't "hate" Microsoft.

 

Liar!

 

MS is a proven corporate criminal,

 

They are? Which "criminal court" convicted them and on what criminal

charges, huh?

 

and as

> such, I don't have any respect for it. But even if I did hate MS, I'm

> still better off than you, hating your fellow man.

 

More delusional bullsh*t?

> 3.) I not a "fanatical zealot lying linux troll."

 

Who do you think you're fooling?

>

> Hell do you even know what distro of Linux I run?

 

Who cares? All 350+ distros are basically the same POS.

 

If you don't, then

> that's proof at least that I not as much of a fanatical zealot as you

> are for Microsoft, in general, or Vista, in particular.

 

More of your pretend logic...LOL!

>

>>> "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but

>>> considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou

>>> say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye and,

>>> behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out

>>> the beam out of thine own eye and then shalt thou see clearly to

>>> cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." - Matthew 7:3-5

>>

>>

>> I see that google is your friend...LOL!

>> Frank

>

>

> Haven't we covered that enough? Google is a technological search tool.

> It is not sentient, no matter what the voices in your head tell you.

 

Google is your friend. Think about it for a few days and get back to me

with more questions.

>

> Yeshua ben Yosef was a really cool dude,

 

You knew him?

 

but its too bad the words

> attributed to him are way beyond your comprehension.

 

You're way out of your intellectual realm of understanding or comprehension.

>

> I bet even the hope-mongerer Obama, would see you as a lost cause, Frank.

 

You have such a nice way of making a total and complete fool out of

yourself.

Keep it up, it's rather entertaining...at least for a while...LOL!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> So? I have control over my consumer products.

 

Can you load Vista on a removable drive?

 

Can you make a copy of your vista install to run on a LiveCD, even if it

is just for repair purposes?

 

You are totally deluded if you think you control the consumer product

that is your OS.

>>

>> It's like a music, I wouldn't pay for music if it was wrapped up in

>> DRM, so why would I want an OS that is wrapped up in DRM, and limits

>> the way I can use my other consumer products that make up my computing

>> environment?

>

> MS didn't "invent" DRM, but they do honor the copyrights of others.

 

Wrong, DRM goes way past "honoring" copyrights. DRM is meant to enforce

control way beyond copyright law.

> If

> that bothers you (and it sure seems to), then don't purchase DRM goods.

 

I don't, and I do advocate that others do the same, until all consumer

content is DRM free.

> No, the rights of those who created the material.

 

After purchase, no copyright owner has the right under law to tell me

how to use my legally purchased consumer products in the privacy of my home.

 

Find the law that says they do, but Google won't be you friend on that

one, dude.

 

But please come back with the DMCA! I rip you a new a**hole if you dare

to try that one.

> You no respect of the rights of others do you?

 

The individual Authors of Copyrighted Material? Yes. The colluding

trusts of the Corporate Copyright elite? Not on your life!

> What a stupid statement. You've made a lot of those lately.

 

"I would prefer a "cleaner' ng" - Frank

> Like I really care!

 

Nope, you obviously don't give a sh*t about how you appear to others at

all.

>Get a life!

 

Why? Do you want to live vicariously through me?

 

Has the echo died out yet in that vacuum between your eyes where all

your friends reside?

 

> Sure you do!

 

I'm glad you agree.

> Hahaha...sure...got any more of your fantasies you'd like to share?

 

You mean like the argument that their must be a "God" because everything

has a maker. A watch never spontaneously created itself.

 

Yet when that same twisted logic is applied to "God," then that just BS?

 

You mean that kinda fantasy?

 

Or how about the one where DRM is meant to stop piracy, not control how

the paying customer use the content?

 

It's you that's living in the fantasy world, where War is Peace,

Ignorance is Strength.

> Desperate again?

 

Naw! That would be you. The sycophant of a known corporate criminal.

> Getting more desperate huh?

 

Nope. Again that would be you vainly trying to justify your slavery to

DRM technologies.

 

>> 1.) I do have Vista installed, though admittedly I don't use it much.

>> 2.) I don't "hate" Microsoft.

>

> Liar!

>

> MS is a proven corporate criminal,

>

> They are? Which "criminal court" convicted them and on what criminal

> charges, huh?

 

They were convicted of many corporate crimes all over the globe. The

USDoJ prosecuted them and won. The EU convicted them, and still have a

few more cases pending

 

Try using your best friend, the Google.

> More delusional bullsh*t?

 

Nope. Just reading your words shows how much you hate people.

>

>> 3.) I not a "fanatical zealot lying linux troll."

>

> Who do you think you're fooling?

 

LOL! Who do you think you're fooling?

>>

>> Hell do you even know what distro of Linux I run?

>

> Who cares? All 350+ distros are basically the same POS.

 

Shows how much you don't know. But how can I be a "fanatical zealot"

when you, who have responded to me the most in this group, doesn't even

know my primary OS?

> More of your pretend logic...LOL!

 

No, more of you pretending to be an Ostrich with its head in the sand.

> Google is your friend. Think about it for a few days and get back to me

> with more questions.

 

Sorry Frank. Just because your life is so empty that you believe that a

technological tool is your friend, however mine isn't.

>>

>> Yeshua ben Yosef was a really cool dude,

>

> You knew him?

 

I've read and studied all the words attributed to him.

 

Just like I've never met you, but I know what you are all about from

your own words.

>

> but its too bad the words

>> attributed to him are way beyond your comprehension.

>

> You're way out of your intellectual realm of understanding or

> comprehension.

 

Wow Frank! You can make a declarative statement with absolutely nothing

to back it up with! You are my hero!

>>

>> I bet even the hope-mongerer Obama, would see you as a lost cause, Frank.

>

> You have such a nice way of making a total and complete fool out of

> yourself.

 

Yeah, keep fooling yourself on that one!

> Keep it up, it's rather entertaining...at least for a while...LOL!

> Frank

 

You and the other 999 monkeys pounding away at your keyboard, are

usually entertained by throwing your feces at each other. Glad I could

help break up the monotony of your usual sh*t-slinging for you! :-p

 

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kurttrail wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> So? I have control over my consumer products.

>

>

> Can you load Vista on a removable drive?

 

Yes you can!

>

> Can you make a copy of your vista install to run on a LiveCD, even if it

> is just for repair purposes?

 

Never tried. Never had a need to do that.

>

> You are totally deluded if you think you control the consumer product

> that is your OS.

 

Your definition of "control" is obviously not what mine is.

>

>>>

>>> It's like a music, I wouldn't pay for music if it was wrapped up in

>>> DRM, so why would I want an OS that is wrapped up in DRM, and limits

>>> the way I can use my other consumer products that make up my

>>> computing environment?

>>

>>

>> MS didn't "invent" DRM, but they do honor the copyrights of others.

>

>

> Wrong, DRM goes way past "honoring" copyrights. DRM is meant to enforce

> control way beyond copyright law.

 

Really? Like how?

>

>> If that bothers you (and it sure seems to), then don't purchase DRM

>> goods.

>

>

> I don't, and I do advocate that others do the same, until all consumer

> content is DRM free.

 

Never happen pal!

>

>> No, the rights of those who created the material.

>

>

> After purchase, no copyright owner has the right under law to tell me

> how to use my legally purchased consumer products in the privacy of my

> home.

 

You think you own copyrighted material? You have the right to use it

under specific restrictions.

>

> Find the law that says they do, but Google won't be you friend on that

> one, dude.

 

Better yet, find the law that says you can. Use your friend google.

>

> But please come back with the DMCA! I rip you a new a**hole if you dare

> to try that one.

 

hehehe...now, now...you couldn't rip a paper bag open and I already

proved that one...remember?

>

>> You no respect of the rights of others do you?

>

>

> The individual Authors of Copyrighted Material? Yes. The colluding

> trusts of the Corporate Copyright elite? Not on your life!

 

Hey, that's your call. Has nothing to do with me or others.

>

>> What a stupid statement. You've made a lot of those lately.

>

>

> "I would prefer a "cleaner' ng" - Frank

>

>> Like I really care!

>

>

> Nope, you obviously don't give a sh*t about how you appear to others at

> all.

>

>> Get a life!

>

>

> Why? Do you want to live vicariously through me?

>

> Has the echo died out yet in that vacuum between your eyes where all

> your friends reside?

>

>

>> Sure you do!

>

>

> I'm glad you agree.

>

>> Hahaha...sure...got any more of your fantasies you'd like to share?

>

>

> You mean like the argument that their must be a "God" because everything

> has a maker.

 

Try that one on someone else.

 

A watch never spontaneously created itself.

 

Who ever said it did?

>

> Yet when that same twisted logic is applied to "God," then that just BS?

 

You are really stupid aren't you?

>

> You mean that kinda fantasy?

>

> Or how about the one where DRM is meant to stop piracy, not control how

> the paying customer use the content?

>

> It's you that's living in the fantasy world, where War is Peace,

> Ignorance is Strength.

 

Your drifting again. Try to stay focused, ok?

>

>> Desperate again?

>

>

> Naw! That would be you. The sycophant of a known corporate criminal.

>

>> Getting more desperate huh?

>

>

> Nope. Again that would be you vainly trying to justify your slavery to

> DRM technologies.

>

>

>>> 1.) I do have Vista installed, though admittedly I don't use it much.

>>> 2.) I don't "hate" Microsoft.

>>

>>

>> Liar!

>>

>> MS is a proven corporate criminal,

>>

>> They are? Which "criminal court" convicted them and on what criminal

>> charges, huh?

>

>

> They were convicted of many corporate crimes all over the globe. The

> USDoJ prosecuted them and won. The EU convicted them, and still have a

> few more cases pending

 

Sorry pal, but MS has not been accused nor convicted of any criminality,

in any "criminal court" anywhere in the world.

Being a monopoly does not constitute "criminal activity".

 

<--------------------sniped the rest of your bullsh*t---------------->

 

Hey bozo, you're boring me with your delusional diatribes.

You're arguments are far too stupid and I'm really bored with you.

Sorry.

Frank

NoStop wrote:

> kurttrail wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> So you are on drugs huh?

>>> Figures.

>>> Loser!

>>> Frank

>> If only you had drugs as an excuse for what you are.

>>

> Francine's problem is that he's NOT taking the drugs his doctor has

> prescribed to try and make him somewhat socially functional.

>

> Cheers.

>

 

Hate to disagree with you, but I doubt there are drugs strong enough

that could do that. :)

 

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kurttrail wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>> kurttrail wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> So you are on drugs huh?

>>>> Figures.

>>>> Loser!

>>>> Frank

>>> If only you had drugs as an excuse for what you are.

>>>

>> Francine's problem is that he's NOT taking the drugs his doctor has

>> prescribed to try and make him somewhat socially functional.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>

> Hate to disagree with you, but I doubt there are drugs strong enough

> that could do that. :)

>

Even "somewhat"? :-)

 

Cheers.

 

--

 

A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.

Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.

This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.

Next?

NoStop wrote:

> Even "somewhat"? :-)

 

Not a chance. :-)

 

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