Mr. Arnold wrote:

> Do you know what go back means?

 

"I'll have to go back to WM"

 

Which implies you have yet to go back, however reality is that you are

already back.

 

Don't you understand what you have typed?

> It means that WM has a feature the will

> sweep a NG and remove a troll poster from the NG period so that it can't

> be seen, instead of just blocking the body of the post made by the

> poster by its handle, but one has to go out of their way to apply the

> rule, and one has to know where the feature is at in WM.

 

Which part of that means, "I'll have to go back to WM?"

> So, I will go to the News part of WM again, to the block rules, select

> the rule for that tramp (already made), select this NG for that tramp,

> and sweep that tramp out of existence again.

 

Sh*t-for-Brains, you have to be in the "News part" of WM to post to this

Newsgroup.

 

How to you go to a place you are already at?

> She is a slippery tramp

> that needs the tramp rule applied to her every now and then.

 

Actually, it sounds like you need it more. Like you get off on it.

> It might get applied to you.

 

Whatever gets you off, dude.

> You know, that get rid of you thing,

 

Yeah, you mean a killfile. My experience is that only cowards,

effeminate metrosexuals, and little old ladies use the killfile.

 

Which one are you?

> because you are an a$$tacular, $hittacular and a dumba$$ home user that

> likes to apply you own worthless spin on things. <g>

 

Your opinion. You are entitled to it. However, if you look back at your

posts in this conversation, it's you that's spinning to my extreme

pleasure.

> I have to go to a meeting.

 

Yeah, don't want to miss that mandatory random drug test for your parole

officer.

> I can't play with you today.

 

Too late, you already have. You have a real short-term memory problem.

It's a good thing that .NET practically does all the coding for you.

 

You think it's a tool you use, but in reality, you are a tool for it.

 

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Mr. Arnold wrote:

> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

 

Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

 

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

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> Oh, foo. Hey, if I want to open port 80 but run my apache server

> with a privilege level other than super-user, how do I do that? I start

> the server as root, then...become a different user, say....the apache

> user.

> Same thing if I want to elevate my privileges. I change my UID, that is,

> I

> chnage the user the system thinks is running the process.

 

You can give that program/user say webserv the role of starting applications

on the priveleged ports.

 

In Solaris this is RBAC, Linux has similar. Google search in it, there are

lots to read on it.

> In fact, "su" is the command to S witch U ser. So why do you say

> that Unix privileges aren't assigned per-user?

 

They are assigned to the process uidNumber and gidNumber real and effective.

After login, the name means nothing but for display purposes. It is

possible for example to have 2 user IDs with the same uidNumber, although

not recommended.

 

Don't get me wrong, su and sudo are very important progams. In fact they

are programs that can be used on the cocmmand line to change

uidNumber/gidNumbers then run a process..

 

An example. (if you see this, you have been hacked or are insecure)

 

If

root has the uidnumber of 0

dave could have the uidnumber of 0

 

Then dave is the same access as root.

 

Thus dave is root in priveleges. dave does not have different privileges

from root.

 

Thus privileges are not assigned to root but assigned to uidNumber, in this

case 0 for admin/root.

 

One hardening exercise is to change the root name to something like r00t or

something other than root, since the login process uses it. But I go

astray.

 

Next item, Microsoft sort of borrowed this concept from UNIX to with GUIDs.

As any seasoned admin about GUID hell (a very long uidNumber) ... Although

MS borrowed it, it most often relies on the user processes for enforcement,

not the kernel so it isn't hard to bypass. Part of why MS OSes are full of

holes, it isn't enforced by the kernel and every application does it

differently. Making it unnecessarily complex with holes.

 

Vista seems to be the first attempt at enforcing it, but appears to be in

the user libraries not the kernel. Inefficient and the jury is out on how

effective. Certainly makes it fat and bloated.

Re: Warranty was: Re: Vista to be replaced?

 

"Michael A. Covington" <look@ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote in message

news:uP0RREijIHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "Canuck57" <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote in message

> news:FbZFj.115680$pM4.53656@pd7urf1no...

>

>> We need a software warranty law...like a lemon law. If they can't fix it

>> in 30 days, get the old version free.

>

> Vista has a warranty (parts of which I quote below). Does Linux have a

> warranty?

>

> Note BTW that "limited warranty" is the normal type of warranty under U.S.

> law. It does not mean "inadequate warranty."

 

Linux warranty is better. MS warranty and RTU is considerably longer but

can summarize both quite easility.

 

In each of Microsoft and Linux, you are on your own. If Microsoft has sole

judgment as do the Linux developers. Microsoft is not responsible for

damages or harm to which is not any different. You are on your own. But

either will provide paid support. Free support is available in different

channels.

 

MS you are heavily restricted. You cannot alter the code, even has VM

restrictions, license keys and DRM to restrict you the user. You cannot

distribute. If we Microsoft decide to stop supporting it, you are on your

own. We MS have all the rights and you have none. Non-refundable and not

portable. Microsoft may change it's agreement.

 

Linux is GPL and open, you can distribute, freely copy, little if any DRM,

update when you want. You can also alter it in any way without even asking.

If something happens to the source of your Linux, you have the sources and

compatible alternatives. You can distribute it ay way you want. You get a

total refund of $0 and paid $0 if you don't like it. If you do like it, you

can copy it to your new PC, no charge.

 

Both offer per user support rates.

 

Next time you post select parts of the MS EULA, read it all and post it all.

It even has statements nullifying other statements so any one statement

cannot be interpreted without the rest.

 

I like 18 below: (the global bail out clause)

 

"LIMITATION OF LIABILITY AND REMEDIES. Notwithstanding any damages that you

might incur for any reason whatsoever (including, without limitation, all

damages referenced herein and all direct or general damages in contract or

anything else), the entire liability of Microsoft and any of its suppliers

under any provision of this EULA and your exclusive remedy hereunder (except

for any remedy of repair or replacement elected by Microsoft with respect to

any breach of the Limited Warranty) shall be limited to the greater of the

actual damages you incur in reasonable reliance on the Software up to the

amount actually paid by you for the Software or US$5.00. The foregoing

limitations, exclusions and disclaimers (including Sections 15, 16 and 17)

shall apply to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law, even if any

remedy fails its essential purpose.."

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

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> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

>> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>

> Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

 

You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

Mr. Arnold wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>

>>> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>

>> Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>

> You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

 

Got your nose!

 

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

> news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>

>>> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>

>> Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>

> You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

PotsOn wrote:

> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

>

>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

>>news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>

>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>

>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>

>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>

>

> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

> Simple huh?

> NoStop

>

"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fsb68922gdr@news1.newsguy.com...

> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

>>

>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

>> news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>

>>>> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>

>>> Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>

>> You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>

> The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

> Simple huh?

> NoStop

>

 

The only simple stuff is Nostop, just another simple minded tramp that's

loose with a one track mind. The tramp couldn't shift gears if its life

depended upon it. It's just a simple minded a$$tactular tramp that's loose

and it needs a serious enema. I tramp filed it long ago when I first came to

this NG, seeing that it had a tramp's agenda.

<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Mar 24, 2:04 pm, Mellowed <nos...@spam.com> wrote:

>

>> Why are you complaining about Vista when you are using the 'free' Linux?

>> Doesn't make any sense. I guess that I missed the 'small problem'

>> that you are referring. Just use Linux and all of your problems will go

>> away.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>>

>

> Because I would like to continue to use Vista since the PC is new and

> I use most of the apps in Office 2007. I'm a bit frustrated that

> there are several areas that don't seem to have solutions. Vista

> dropping a network conenction is a problem many people have had yet I

> find most of the requests not solved/resolved. I don't see the level

> of knowledge that generated XP solutions.

 

Vista has yet to drop a network connection on my system. So what is the

problem you speak of? The reason you don't see the level of knowledge is

very easy to explain, and one you should know. Answer this. How long has XP

been out? Now, how long has Vista. Once you answer those questions, you'll

realize why the level of knowledge is different.

> I see the problem as many small glitches giving a good OS a bad name.

> Linksys doesn't have a solution, Dell doesn't have a solution, looks

> like MS doesn't have a solution.

 

And if you have been in the business as long as you say you have, you would

therefore remember that MS does NOT write the drivers. The mfrs do. If you

have a problem, take it up with Linksys. Or make Dell replace the system

with one that works.

 

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Frank wrote:

> PotsOn wrote:

>

>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

>>>news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>

>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>

>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>

>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>

>>

>> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>> Simple huh?

>> NoStop

>>

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

PotsOn wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>

>>PotsOn wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

>>>>news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>

>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>

>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>

>>>

>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>Simple huh?

>>>NoStop

>>>

>

>

> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

> Simple huh?

> NoStop

>

Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

> "PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:fsb68922gdr@news1.newsguy.com...

>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>> message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>> will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>

>>>> Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>

>>> You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>

>> The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

>> Simple huh?

>> NoStop

>>

>

> The only simple stuff is Nostop, just another simple minded tramp that's

> loose with a one track mind. The tramp couldn't shift gears if its life

> depended upon it. It's just a simple minded a$$tactular tramp that's

> loose and it needs a serious enema. I tramp filed it long ago when I first

> came to this NG, seeing that it had a tramp's agenda.

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

Frank wrote:

> PotsOn wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>PotsOn wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>>>>message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>>

>>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>>Simple huh?

>>>>NoStop

>>>>

>>

>>

>> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>> Simple huh?

>> NoStop

>>

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

PotsOn wrote:

> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>

>

>>"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>news:fsb68922gdr@news1.newsguy.com...

>>

>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>>>message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>

>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>

>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>

>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>

>>>The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

>>>Simple huh?

>>>NoStop

>>>

>>

>>The only simple stuff is Nostop, just another simple minded tramp that's

>>loose with a one track mind. The tramp couldn't shift gears if its life

>>depended upon it. It's just a simple minded a$$tactular tramp that's

>>loose and it needs a serious enema. I tramp filed it long ago when I first

>>came to this NG, seeing that it had a tramp's agenda.

>

>

> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

> Simple huh?

> NoStop

>

PotsOn wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>

>>PotsOn wrote:

>>

>>>Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>PotsOn wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>>>>>message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>>>Simple huh?

>>>>>NoStop

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>Simple huh?

>>>NoStop

>>>

>

>

> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

> Simple huh?

> NoStop

>

"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fsb9qb76b8@news2.newsguy.com...

 

You're just another tramp that needs to be sent to the tramp file as you run

up and down the thread, like a tramp.

Frank wrote:

> PotsOn wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>PotsOn wrote:

>>>

>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>PotsOn wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>>>>>>message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her.

>>>>>>>>>I will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>>>>Simple huh?

>>>>>>NoStop

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>>>>Simple huh?

>>>>NoStop

>>>>

>>

>>

>> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>> Simple huh?

>> NoStop

>>

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

Frank wrote:

> PotsOn wrote:

>

>> Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>news:fsb68922gdr@news1.newsguy.com...

>>>

>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

>>>>>message news:zI7Gj.4301$FP5.3393@fe61.usenetserver.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>Mr. Arnold wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Tell the tramp that I just got back from the meeting and I see her. I

>>>>>>>will now apply the rule again to get that tramp out of my sight.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Out of sight, out of mind. Just like an infant playing peek-a-boo.

>>>>>

>>>>>You're just another NG tramp that needs to go to the tramp file too.

>>>>

>>>>The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

>>>>Simple huh?

>>>>NoStop

>>>>

>>>

>>>The only simple stuff is Nostop, just another simple minded tramp that's

>>>loose with a one track mind. The tramp couldn't shift gears if its life

>>>depended upon it. It's just a simple minded a$$tactular tramp that's

>>>loose and it needs a serious enema. I tramp filed it long ago when I

>>>first came to this NG, seeing that it had a tramp's agenda.

>>

>>

>> The truth...urbuttoo is just a piece of crap.

>> Simple huh?

>> NoStop

>>

 

The truth...fista is just a piece of crap.

Simple huh?

NoStop

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh