A friend was just telling me, (he works in a radio station) that they got a

new pc for him at the station with vista but will be formatting it to

install xp because they don't allow vista.. LOL

 

its so funny.... I actually tried to defend vista telling him that its not

sooo bad with SP1, but he is sure they don't care.

Vista is hunted down like the Frankenstein monster it is.. (notice

Frankenstein has the name frank in it?) ! lol

 

 

 

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

news:OYnNSR3iIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Bob Campbell wrote:

>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>> news:47e3e0a1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

>>

>> In your opinion. Get used to it.

>

> I know someone that just got a job with a medical company and was running

> Vista with Office 07. Not only did the company tell her that she could not

> use Vista/Office 07 for the job, they bought her a copy of XP and Office

> 03. She is VERY HAPPY not to be using Vista or Office 07 anymore.

>

> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

> buy yourself a Mac.

>

> Alias

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Frank wrote:

> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

>

>> Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks

>> though ...

>> Its the implementation thats horrible.

>

> I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered.

 

You'd think by now that you'd realize that it's none of your business.

> What

> design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical, etc) do

> you have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion about the

> interface design of Vista/Office 2007?

> Or is it simply your personal opinion?

> Tell us.

> Frank

 

What qualifications do you have, Frank, or is that none of our business?

 

Alias

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Alias wrote:

> Bob Campbell wrote:

>

>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>> news:47e3e0a1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>

>>> Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

>>

>>

>> In your opinion. Get used to it.

>

>

> I know someone that just got a job with a medical company and was

> running Vista with Office 07. Not only did the company tell her that she

> could not use Vista/Office 07 for the job, they bought her a copy of XP

> and Office 03. She is VERY HAPPY not to be using Vista or Office 07

> anymore.

 

Liar!

>

> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

> buy yourself a Mac.

 

Best you stick with fukkin your sheep and your butt-buddy onthepot.

Frank

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

> A friend was just telling me, (he works in a radio station) that they got a

> new pc for him at the station with vista but will be formatting it to

> install xp because they don't allow vista.. LOL

 

Liar!

>

> its so funny.... I actually tried to defend vista telling him that its not

> sooo bad with SP1, but he is sure they don't care.

> Vista is hunted down like the Frankenstein monster it is.. (notice

> Frankenstein has the name frank in it?) ! lol

 

Liar!

Frank

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

On the Bridge! (A brain dead idiot) wrote:

> I have seen this same thing again and again.. from hundreds of people all

> over the internet.

 

Liar!

> Its not only your wife, and its not because people are resistant to change.

> Its because the interface is bad, and it results in exact the thing you say:

> going back and forth and searching for commands.

 

More lies?

STFU!

Frank

"Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

news:OYnNSR3iIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

> buy yourself a Mac.

 

Yeah, like we haven't heard THAT ONE before. Numbered in the millions!

 

Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Gordon wrote:

> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

> news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program

>> slower, more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

>

> Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize

> the ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style

> toolbars.

>

>

I'll take 2003 over 2007 anytime. What was MS thinking when they

designed Office 2007??

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

>>

>>> Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks

>>> though ...

>>> Its the implementation thats horrible.

>>

>>

>> I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered.

>

>

> You'd think by now that you'd realize that it's none of your business.

 

Was I talking you to sheep-fukker?

>

>> What design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical,

>> etc) do you have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion

>> about the interface design of Vista/Office 2007?

>> Or is it simply your personal opinion?

>> Tell us.

>> Frank

>

>

> What qualifications do you have, Frank, or is that none of our business?

 

I still don't remember talking to you sheep-fukker!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

>

>> Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks though

>> ... Its the implementation thats horrible.

>

> I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered. What

> design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical, etc) do

> you have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion about the

> interface design of Vista/Office 2007?

> Or is it simply your personal opinion?

> Tell us.

> Frank

 

Like you've told us about your "marketing" skills? They certainly don't show

up with the outrageous posts you make on Usenet.

 

Cheers.

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

> A friend was just telling me, (he works in a radio station) that they got

> a new pc for him at the station with vista but will be formatting it to

> install xp because they don't allow vista.. LOL

>

 

MOST businesses don't allow Vista on any of their computers. That's why

Microsoft has to rely on preloading Vista on lo-end OEM boxes sold at

Staples and BestBuy.

 

Cheers.

> its so funny.... I actually tried to defend vista telling him that its not

> sooo bad with SP1, but he is sure they don't care.

> Vista is hunted down like the Frankenstein monster it is.. (notice

> Frankenstein has the name frank in it?) ! lol

>

>

>

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OYnNSR3iIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Bob Campbell wrote:

>>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>>> news:47e3e0a1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>> Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

>>>

>>> In your opinion. Get used to it.

>>

>> I know someone that just got a job with a medical company and was running

>> Vista with Office 07. Not only did the company tell her that she could

>> not use Vista/Office 07 for the job, they bought her a copy of XP and

>> Office 03. She is VERY HAPPY not to be using Vista or Office 07 anymore.

>>

>> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

>> buy yourself a Mac.

>>

>> Alias

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Bob Campbell wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OYnNSR3iIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux

>> or buy yourself a Mac.

>

> Yeah, like we haven't heard THAT ONE before.

 

Yeah, pre Linux being user friendly and pre WPA/WGA/DRM. It wasn't valid

then as it is now.

> Numbered in the millions!

 

Yawn, Enron had billions. Seen Texaco lately? How about Pan Am? TWA?

>

> Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

 

No, YOU are if you can't run Ubuntu without problems. That said, if

true, you're ready for the demise of Microsoft unless you're into Xboxes.

 

Alias

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Frank wrote:

> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

>

>> A friend was just telling me, (he works in a radio station) that they

>> got a new pc for him at the station with vista but will be formatting

>> it to install xp because they don't allow vista.. LOL

>

> Liar!

>

>>

>> its so funny.... I actually tried to defend vista telling him that its

>> not sooo bad with SP1, but he is sure they don't care.

>> Vista is hunted down like the Frankenstein monster it is.. (notice

>> Frankenstein has the name frank in it?) ! lol

>

> Liar!

> Frank

 

Very convincing, Frank. NOT!

 

Alias

Re: Oh No. On The Bridge showing how stupid he is

 

kurttrail wrote:

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>> news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

>>> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

>>

>> So you personally went and asked most people? I don't think so. Maybe

>> your nurse told you to say that.

>>>

>>> Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows

>>> 7.

>>

>> You are the perfect candidate for Ubuntu. Just your style. You just

>> can't figure out Vista. Very complicated for someone with your tiny

>> pea sized brain.

>>>

>>> MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

>>> Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

>>

>> MS understands more than you do. That is whey they are a billion dollar

>> company and YOU work for Burger King.

>>

>>

>>> They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

>>

>> Liar

>>

>>

>>> ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose

>>> big time!

>>>

>> Ubuntu is perfect for a douche bag like yourself. Why don't you and

>> Alias go play in the Ubuntu forum

>

> So I guess you like the Ribbon, huh?

>

> Dude, why don't you try discussing the topic, instead blowing hot air?

>

He just can't. He's a stalker and a troll, just like his butt-buddy Francis.

 

Cheers.

 

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

 

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

 

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Bob Campbell wrote:

>>

>>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>>> news:47e3e0a1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>

>>>> Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

>>>

>>>

>>> In your opinion. Get used to it.

>>

>>

>> I know someone that just got a job with a medical company and was

>> running Vista with Office 07. Not only did the company tell her that

>> she could not use Vista/Office 07 for the job, they bought her a copy

>> of XP and Office 03. She is VERY HAPPY not to be using Vista or Office

>> 07 anymore.

>

> Liar!

 

No, the truth. Their specialized medical software program will not work

with Vista and MS Office 07. It won't work with Ubuntu either so don't

feel so bad.

>>

>> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux

>> or buy yourself a Mac.

>

> Best you stick with fukkin your sheep and your butt-buddy onthepot.

> Frank

 

Need I bring up your lovely daughter again or will you stop your lies

with the sheep?

 

Alias

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

>>>

>>>> Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks

>>>> though ...

>>>> Its the implementation thats horrible.

>>>

>>>

>>> I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered.

>>

>>

>> You'd think by now that you'd realize that it's none of your business.

>

> Was I talking you to sheep-fukker?

 

Frank can't reply to the message intelligently so Frank hurls a lying

insult.

>>

>>> What design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical,

>>> etc) do you have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion

>>> about the interface design of Vista/Office 2007?

>>> Or is it simply your personal opinion?

>>> Tell us.

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> What qualifications do you have, Frank, or is that none of our business?

>

> I still don't remember talking to you sheep-fukker!

> Frank

 

Frank can't reply to the message intelligently so Frank hurls a lying

insult.

 

I was talking to you but you're not man enough to reply with anything

but insults and lies.

 

Alias

"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fs0qbr118gp@news4.newsguy.com...

> MOST businesses don't allow Vista on any of their computers. That's why

> Microsoft has to rely on preloading Vista on lo-end OEM boxes sold at

> Staples and BestBuy.

 

Yep. Just like MOST businesses didn't allow XP on any of their computers

until around late 2003/early 2004, over 2 years after release. Hell, my

wife just got XP in January of this year where she works! They still were

using 2000!

 

Nothing has changed. XP will be gradually phased out, Vista will be

gradually phased in. These things take time and planning.

"David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:LpadncM7OL01cX7anZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com...

> Gordon wrote:

>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>> news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

>>> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

>>

>> Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize

>> the ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style

>> toolbars.

>>

>>

> I'll take 2003 over 2007 anytime.

 

Would you like to expand on that? How long have you been using 2007?

 

> What was MS thinking when they designed Office 2007??

 

Innovation perhaps?

"Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

news:e1OUic3iIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Numbered in the millions!

>

> Yawn, Enron had billions. Seen Texaco lately? How about Pan Am? TWA?

 

Millions of DAYS, doofus. You said Microsoft's DAYS were numbered,

remember?

>> Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

>

> No, YOU are if you can't run Ubuntu without problems.

 

Who said I had problems with it? I just don't need it. It doesn't do

anything I can't already do easier in Windows.

In article <13u7qvi699btd9c@news.supernews.com>,

Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

>

>Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

>

 

 

[wrat@wrat-lx ~]$ uname -a

Linux wrat-lx.sbcglobal.net 2.6.9-67.0.1.EL #1 Wed Dec 19 15:50:25 EST 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

[wrat@wrat-lx ~]$

 

 

Works for me... :-)

Re: oh no.... more bad ribbons (like office2007) to come in windows7????

 

Bob Campbell wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e1OUic3iIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Numbered in the millions!

>>

>> Yawn, Enron had billions. Seen Texaco lately? How about Pan Am? TWA?

>

> Millions of DAYS, doofus. You said Microsoft's DAYS were numbered,

> remember?

 

And I asked you have you seen Enron, Texaco, Pan Am or TWA lately which

you ducked.

>

>>> Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

>>

>> No, YOU are if you can't run Ubuntu without problems.

>

> Who said I had problems with it? I just don't need it. It doesn't do

> anything I can't already do easier in Windows.

 

Yeah, especially activate, get genuine and go all over the Net to get

updates for your programs. You are in a minority most people can't

stand Vista and it will be the demise of Microsoft and you're smart to

have a Mac and Linux nearby.

 

Alias

Nah.. Vista will not be phased in ever.

 

It will be skipped. If windows7 turns up to be as good as things show,

companies will jump directly to that, oh boy vista will just be called the

"Me" of NT and avoided and used in tech jokes.

 

 

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

news:13u7rqu9olp5ffd@news.supernews.com...

> "PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:fs0qbr118gp@news4.newsguy.com...

>> MOST businesses don't allow Vista on any of their computers. That's why

>> Microsoft has to rely on preloading Vista on lo-end OEM boxes sold at

>> Staples and BestBuy.

>

> Yep. Just like MOST businesses didn't allow XP on any of their computers

> until around late 2003/early 2004, over 2 years after release. Hell, my

> wife just got XP in January of this year where she works! They still

> were using 2000!

>

> Nothing has changed. XP will be gradually phased out, Vista will be

> gradually phased in. These things take time and planning.

You are not allowed to install mac osx on a non apple machine.. you know

that.. right?

 

 

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

news:13u7s7drpvnv5c7@news.supernews.com...

> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e1OUic3iIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Numbered in the millions!

>>

>> Yawn, Enron had billions. Seen Texaco lately? How about Pan Am? TWA?

>

> Millions of DAYS, doofus. You said Microsoft's DAYS were numbered,

> remember?

>

>>> Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

>>

>> No, YOU are if you can't run Ubuntu without problems.

>

> Who said I had problems with it? I just don't need it. It doesn't do

> anything I can't already do easier in Windows.

I have been using it since it was beta, lol

I've been with MS in every step of the devolution of their windows and

office interface..

 

this is not innovation. The people who designed these interfaces are

monkeys.

 

Can you say consistency?

 

Lets see.. in office they bring every command out on bars with tabs, so many

that its confusing.. but wait, in windows explorer and internet explorer

they HIDE the commands, lock the toolbars so you cant bring out icons, and

remove the icons you are used to...

 

LOL I cant see why so many people fail to see so many obvious mistakes.

 

Is it perhaps that you are a fanboy? I am not fanboy.. I wont hesitate even

a millisecond to say something is crap

when its crap no matter who makes it.

 

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

news:64i9k5F2besd6U1@mid.individual.net...

> "David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:LpadncM7OL01cX7anZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> Gordon wrote:

>>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

>>> news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

>>>> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

>>>

>>> Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize

>>> the ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style

>>> toolbars.

>>>

>>>

>> I'll take 2003 over 2007 anytime.

>

> Would you like to expand on that? How long have you been using 2007?

>

>

>> What was MS thinking when they designed Office 2007??

>

> Innovation perhaps?

>

>

"Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23r1yAo3iIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> And I asked you have you seen Enron, Texaco, Pan Am or TWA lately which

> you ducked.

 

Because they have nothing to do with Microsoft! Have you seen Atari

lately? Commodore? What's your point?

>> Who said I had problems with it? I just don't need it. It doesn't do

>> anything I can't already do easier in Windows.

>

> Yeah, especially activate, get genuine and go all over the Net to get

> updates for your programs. You are in a minority most people can't stand

> Vista and it will be the demise of Microsoft and you're smart to have a

> Mac and Linux nearby.

 

Right. "Most people" - and you know this how, exactly?

 

The fact is more people are using Vista after 1 year than are using Linux

after 15 years. Sounds to me like its Linux that "most people" can't

stand!

 

I have Macs nearby - always have since the SE/30. Linux is still useless

to me, but I do keep checking the latest "this one is the one" distro that

happens every year!

"Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

news:e1OUic3iIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Bob Campbell wrote:

>> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OYnNSR3iIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

>>> buy yourself a Mac.

>>

>> Yeah, like we haven't heard THAT ONE before.

>

> Yeah, pre Linux being user friendly and pre WPA/WGA/DRM. It wasn't valid

> then as it is now.

>

>> Numbered in the millions!

>

> Yawn, Enron had billions. Seen Texaco lately? How about Pan Am? TWA?

>

 

We pay online to Texaco. They are part of BP.

 

 

>> Already have a Mac, and OSX86 installed on this box. Linux is useless.

>

> No, YOU are if you can't run Ubuntu without problems. That said, if true,

> you're ready for the demise of Microsoft unless you're into Xboxes.

>

> Alias