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Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower, more

confusing and takes up too much screen space.

 

Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows 7.

 

MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

 

They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

 

ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose big

time!

 

see link about what im talking about...

 

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080322/ribbon-in-windows-7-application-near-you/

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    Oh No. On The Bridge showing how stupid he is

     

    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    > more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

     

    So you personally went and asked most people? I don't think so. Maybe your

    nurse told you to say that.

    >

    > Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows 7.

     

    You are the perfect candidate for Ubuntu. Just your style. You just can't

    figure out Vista. Very complicated for someone with your tiny pea sized

    brain.

    >

    > MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

    > Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

     

    MS understands more than you do. That is whey they are a billion dollar

    company and YOU work for Burger King.

    >

    > They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

     

    Liar

    >

    > ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose big

    > time!

    >

    Ubuntu is perfect for a douche bag like yourself. Why don't you and Alias

    go play in the Ubuntu forum

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    Bill Yawnaire..... gesh!

     

     

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > So you personally went and asked most people? I don't think so. Maybe

    > your nurse told you to say that.

    >>

    >> Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows 7.

    >

    > You are the perfect candidate for Ubuntu. Just your style. You just

    > can't figure out Vista. Very complicated for someone with your tiny pea

    > sized brain.

    >>

    >> MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

    >> Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

    >

    > MS understands more than you do. That is whey they are a billion dollar

    > company and YOU work for Burger King.

    >

    >>

    >> They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

    >

    > Liar

    >

    >>

    >> ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose big

    >> time!

    >>

    > Ubuntu is perfect for a douche bag like yourself. Why don't you and Alias

    > go play in the Ubuntu forum

    >

    >

    >

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    > more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

     

    No, some people hate it just because it is new. The "ribbon" is really

    just tabs. Once you get used to it, it is a much better way of organizing

    things. Faster too, because the items stay on screen, instead of

    disappearing everytime you choose one, like the old menus do.

     

    Like tabbed browsing, this is the future. When Linux adopts this idea you

    will be praising it.

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    Re: Oh No. On The Bridge showing how stupid he is

     

    Hey IDIOT!

     

    You are doing exactly what kevpan aka spanky aka doris aka bill yanair

    always does.

     

    1) Changes the title of the post even though that is considered bad

    netiquette, and adding her only stupid version of it

    2) Creating new insult - threads with attacks...

     

    If you are trying to hide from us that you are not the same idiot posting

    under so many different names, you are doing a terrible job at it. But with

    your low IQ what would you expect? LOL

     

     

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > So you personally went and asked most people? I don't think so. Maybe

    > your nurse told you to say that.

    >>

    >> Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows 7.

    >

    > You are the perfect candidate for Ubuntu. Just your style. You just

    > can't figure out Vista. Very complicated for someone with your tiny pea

    > sized brain.

    >>

    >> MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

    >> Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

    >

    > MS understands more than you do. That is whey they are a billion dollar

    > company and YOU work for Burger King.

    >

    >>

    >> They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

    >

    > Liar

    >

    >>

    >> ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose big

    >> time!

    >>

    > Ubuntu is perfect for a douche bag like yourself. Why don't you and Alias

    > go play in the Ubuntu forum

    >

    >

    >

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Bill Yawnaire..... gesh!

    >

    >

    On the Bridge, post after post, promoting Ubuntu and putting down Vista.

    Your posts are about the same as Alias's posts. If you have such a "hard

    on" for Ubuntu, why not go over there with the other misfits and help those

    poor saps out instead of being a pest here?

     

    You just like making trouble. You enjoy egging people on. Guess what? We

    are up for the task? You idiot.

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    I love new things. That is not the problem. The problem is that its

    incredibly stupid, ugly, confusing...

     

    Don't make be start analyzing all the reasons why.. I would need several

    pages to explain everything, along with screenshots... lol

     

    As a Designer, I know when something is bad or not after say, 3 - 5

    seconds.. lol

     

    You have not been around too long it seems reading what real people are

    saying about it.

    But I have.

     

    As an instructor and teacher, I know how people react to interfaces.

     

    MS really knows this, that's why they are just adding that interface as a

    possible way to implement and not enforcing it somehow. THANK GOD.. because

    it would make a great deal of people angry.

     

     

    Even if linux does add this as a possible interface (I doubt they will do it

    so badly if they do) the good thing with linux

    is that you can change almost everything in the GUI, and even change the

    whole desktop enviornment.

     

    Im not a linux maniac, but I know its strong points, and you seem to be

    ignorant about linux.

     

     

     

    "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > No, some people hate it just because it is new. The "ribbon" is really

    > just tabs. Once you get used to it, it is a much better way of

    > organizing things. Faster too, because the items stay on screen, instead

    > of disappearing everytime you choose one, like the old menus do.

    >

    > Like tabbed browsing, this is the future. When Linux adopts this idea

    > you will be praising it.

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    Me promoting ubuntu????

     

    I say UBUNTU SUCKS EVEN MORE THAN VISTA for desktop use!

    (actually for other reasons though, more of environment and not itself)

     

    But vista is very close into being one of the worse OS's ever made!

    (more because itself sucks)

     

    My post is about OFFICE and its stupid ribbon and an idea for a GUI that

    should be DESTROYED

    BURIED AND FORGOTTEN!

     

    Do us all a favor, put a sock in it.

     

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    >> Bill Yawnaire..... gesh!

    >>

    >>

    > On the Bridge, post after post, promoting Ubuntu and putting down Vista.

    > Your posts are about the same as Alias's posts. If you have such a "hard

    > on" for Ubuntu, why not go over there with the other misfits and help

    > those poor saps out instead of being a pest here?

    >

    > You just like making trouble. You enjoy egging people on. Guess what?

    > We are up for the task? You idiot.

    >

    >

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    On the Bridge! (A brain dead loser) wrote:

    > Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower, more

    > confusing and takes up too much screen space.

     

    Not really. Only for 'slow" losers like you.

    Frank

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    Bob Campbell wrote:

    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    >

    > No, some people hate it just because it is new. The "ribbon" is really

    > just tabs. Once you get used to it, it is a much better way of

    > organizing things. Faster too, because the items stay on screen,

    > instead of disappearing everytime you choose one, like the old menus do.

    >

    > Like tabbed browsing, this is the future. When Linux adopts this idea

    > you will be praising it.

     

    Yeah, that idiot is far too stupid to figure that one out.

    Frank

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    > You have not been around too long it seems reading what real people are

    > saying about it.

     

    I have read all kinds of nonsense about it. So much, in fact, that before

    I actually installed Office 2007 I was sure I would not like it. But lo

    and behold, after actually USING it, I like it.

     

    Who says that menus that disappear as soon as you choose something is the

    best way? Choose the wrong item and you have to go back and open the menu

    again. Need something else from that menu - that's right, you have to

    open it again. And again. And again. How much time do you think has

    been wasted opening and re-opening the same menus 50 times a day?

     

    Sorry, tabs are an improvement. It's just shocking to see them used this

    way. After using it for a couple of days you find yourself thinking "why

    didn't someone think of this before"? Remember, lots of people didn't

    "get" tabbed browsing either, until they used it for a couple of days.

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Me promoting ubuntu????

    >

    > I say UBUNTU SUCKS EVEN MORE THAN VISTA for desktop use!

    > (actually for other reasons though, more of environment and not itself)

    >

    > But vista is very close into being one of the worse OS's ever made!

    > (more because itself sucks)

    >

    > My post is about OFFICE and its stupid ribbon and an idea for a GUI that

    > should be DESTROYED

    > BURIED AND FORGOTTEN!

    >

    > Do us all a favor, put a sock in it.

    >

    >

     

    If you don't like Office 2007, load OpenSores Office on your machine and

    STFU!

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    > more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

     

    Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize the

    ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style toolbars.

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    Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks though ...

    Its the implementation thats horrible.

     

    I also think that Office2007 should have had an option to revert back to the

    old menu style, and not wait for a 3rd party to do that *there is an add-on

    called classic menus for office2007* (shareware) you cannot imagine how many

    people have thanked me a million times, some even in tears for me telling

    them of the existance of that add on.

     

    Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

     

    "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3db93$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> You have not been around too long it seems reading what real people are

    >> saying about it.

    >

    > I have read all kinds of nonsense about it. So much, in fact, that

    > before I actually installed Office 2007 I was sure I would not like it.

    > But lo and behold, after actually USING it, I like it.

    >

    > Who says that menus that disappear as soon as you choose something is the

    > best way? Choose the wrong item and you have to go back and open the

    > menu again. Need something else from that menu - that's right, you

    > have to open it again. And again. And again. How much time do you

    > think has been wasted opening and re-opening the same menus 50 times a

    > day?

    >

    > Sorry, tabs are an improvement. It's just shocking to see them used this

    > way. After using it for a couple of days you find yourself thinking "why

    > didn't someone think of this before"? Remember, lots of people didn't

    > "get" tabbed browsing either, until they used it for a couple of days.

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    > If you don't like Office 2007, load OpenSores Office on your machine and

    > STFU!

     

    Nah.. I think I will keep using it because Im flexible enough to use any

    interface, no matter how awkward it is, just because I like to keep myself

    accustomed with all latest software that MS makes, and at the same time bash

    each crap thing MS makes.

     

    Gesh can you get off my back? you are stalking you know!

     

     

     

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    >> Me promoting ubuntu????

    >>

    >> I say UBUNTU SUCKS EVEN MORE THAN VISTA for desktop use!

    >> (actually for other reasons though, more of environment and not itself)

    >>

    >> But vista is very close into being one of the worse OS's ever made!

    >> (more because itself sucks)

    >>

    >> My post is about OFFICE and its stupid ribbon and an idea for a GUI that

    >> should be DESTROYED

    >> BURIED AND FORGOTTEN!

    >>

    >> Do us all a favor, put a sock in it.

    >>

    >>

    >

    > If you don't like Office 2007, load OpenSores Office on your machine and

    > STFU!

    >

    >

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    "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program

    >> slower, more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and

    > minimize the ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old

    > menu-style toolbars.

    >

    My wife is happy that they have not (yet) implemented the ribbon in

    Publisher. She is a power user that has just about every possible

    button bar active, and she uses them all. She did the same for Word.

    Now she grumbles about having to jump back and forth between ribbon

    tabs and that the QAT isn't big enough to hold all but buttons that

    she uses.

     

    Brian

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    Bill Yanaire wrote:

    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > So you personally went and asked most people? I don't think so. Maybe

    > your nurse told you to say that.

    >>

    >> Now they want to use this horrible concept on more stuff...in windows

    >> 7.

    >

    > You are the perfect candidate for Ubuntu. Just your style. You just

    > can't figure out Vista. Very complicated for someone with your tiny

    > pea sized brain.

    >>

    >> MS still hasnt understood how bad the ribbon design really is! lol...

    >> Most first time users didnt even know that the "jewel" was a button!!!

    >

    > MS understands more than you do. That is whey they are a billion dollar

    > company and YOU work for Burger King.

    >

    >

    >> They have the nerve to call the better proven way "old"... !?

    >

    > Liar

    >

    >

    >> ubuntu is looking better every day MS, keep this up and you will lose

    >> big time!

    >>

    > Ubuntu is perfect for a douche bag like yourself. Why don't you and

    > Alias go play in the Ubuntu forum

     

    So I guess you like the Ribbon, huh?

     

    Dude, why don't you try discussing the topic, instead blowing hot air?

     

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    "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >

    > Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize the

    > ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style

    > toolbars.

     

    Don't confuse him with facts.

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    > Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

     

    In your opinion. Get used to it.

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    On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

    > Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks though ...

    > Its the implementation thats horrible.

     

    I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered. What

    design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical, etc) do

    you have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion about the

    interface design of Vista/Office 2007?

    Or is it simply your personal opinion?

    Tell us.

    Frank

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    "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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    >> If you don't like Office 2007, load OpenSores Office on your machine and

    >> STFU!

    >

    > Nah.. I think I will keep using it because Im flexible enough to use any

    > interface, no matter how awkward it is, just because I like to keep myself

    > accustomed with all latest software that MS makes, and at the same time

    > bash each crap thing MS makes.

    >

    > Gesh can you get off my back? you are stalking you know!

    >

    >

     

    Just think, if you leave this group and go to Ubuntu you will never have a

    problem with me over there!

     

    IDIOT

    >

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    > On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

    >

    >> Im not against tabs as a general design option. The ribbon sucks though

    >> ...

    >> Its the implementation thats horrible.

    >

    > I've asked you many times in the past and you've never answered. What

    > design expertise/education/degree(s) (industrial, mechanical, etc) do you

    > have in order for us to have any faith in your opinion about the interface

    > design of Vista/Office 2007?

    > Or is it simply your personal opinion?

    > Tell us.

    > Frank

     

    I think he went to the "Bryman School". He started out as a Dental Hygenist

    but failed the course. Now he's working at the fryer over at McDonald's

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    Bill Yanaire wrote:

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    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3d8cd@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Bill Yawnaire..... gesh!

    >>

    >>

    > On the Bridge, post after post, promoting Ubuntu and putting down Vista.

    > Your posts are about the same as Alias's posts. If you have such a "hard

    > on" for Ubuntu, why not go over there with the other misfits and help

    > those poor saps out instead of being a pest here?

    >

    > You just like making trouble. You enjoy egging people on. Guess what?

    > We

    > are up for the task? You idiot.

     

    Mr. Yawner, you ain't up to any task. You're just a foolish Fanboy who

    attacks the messenger and can't argue against the message.

     

    Cheers.

     

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    Bob Campbell wrote:

    > "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    > news:47e3e0a1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> Oh yes.. The ribbon is bad.. horrid

    >

    > In your opinion. Get used to it.

     

    I know someone that just got a job with a medical company and was

    running Vista with Office 07. Not only did the company tell her that she

    could not use Vista/Office 07 for the job, they bought her a copy of XP

    and Office 03. She is VERY HAPPY not to be using Vista or Office 07 anymore.

     

    Microsoft's days are numbered. Get used to it and either learn Linux or

    buy yourself a Mac.

     

    Alias

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    I have seen this same thing again and again.. from hundreds of people all

    over the internet.

    Its not only your wife, and its not because people are resistant to change.

    Its because the interface is bad, and it results in exact the thing you say:

    going back and forth and searching for commands.

     

    Have you seen this?

     

    http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/

     

     

     

     

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    >> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

    >> news:47e3d5b4@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >>> Most people hate the ribbon because it makes using the program slower,

    >>> more confusing and takes up too much screen space.

    >>

    >> Rubbish. Put your most frequntly-used commands on the QAT and minimize

    >> the ribbon. That actually gives you MORE space then the old menu-style

    >> toolbars.

    >>

    > My wife is happy that they have not (yet) implemented the ribbon in

    > Publisher. She is a power user that has just about every possible button

    > bar active, and she uses them all. She did the same for Word. Now she

    > grumbles about having to jump back and forth between ribbon tabs and that

    > the QAT isn't big enough to hold all but buttons that she uses.

    >

    > Brian

    >

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