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July 18, 200717 yr

* Frank:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>

>> * Frank:

>>

>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny

>>>>>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a

>>>>>>> lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux

>>>>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>

>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer in

>>>>> his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux free

>>>>> software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they are

>>>>> atheist or communist do you?

>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept that!

>>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>>

>> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

>> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

>> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

>> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

>> moving right along.

>>

>> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

>> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

>> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>>

>> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

>> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a shame.

>>

>> -Michael

>

> So you're finding it difficult to see an ideological connection between

> atheism, communism and the free software connection?

> Try harder...it's hiding in plain site.

> Frank

Are you serious? Who cares? A few goobers, maybe.

Windows or Linux, it's all just fukkin software... that's it.

Gawd dam, I reckon I can get a bit excited about tech crap

at times- but, some of you freaks really need to get a fukkin life.

-Michael

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July 18, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:33:58 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>>>So damn funny, that's Frankie! You claim to run a marketing company

>>>and yet don't have a web site.

>

>>Yeah we have a marketing/advertising agency. Our portfolio and existing

>>clients speak for us.

>

> We only hear YOU bragging.

>

>>Plus some of the printers we use actually use some

>>of our work in their portfolios. We accept only referrals. That's much

>>better than some glitzy web site.

>>We've very good at what we do.

>

> So good you keep it hidden. Got it. Thanks for sharing. <snicker>

>

>>>That's like a prostitute not having condoms with her.

>>

>>Oh, so you frequent prostitutes huh? Well, that's your problem not mine.

>

> Another feeble Frankie attempt to twist what I actually said.

>

>>>Frankie is as phony as a three dollar bill.

>>

>>Well, lets just think about things for a moment. You're the one claiming

>>to have an iq of 170 (yeah right!). You're the one claiming to have

>>"retired" at 40 yrs. You're the one claiming to be a computer genius yet

>>you can't fix your on computer.

>>Now who's the phony?

>

> You just repeated the same lies you have dozens of times before. That

> only proves you can't even come up with an original insult. How

> pathetic is that?

>

>>>So all those servers you claim to have do what?

>>

>>Servers? Sorry pal, now you're starting to lie and that won't work.

>>We have one server, WHS, that replaced Server 2003, and backs up all

>>important work on a daily basis.

>

> In other words you have no server. A "server" is a computer that

> serves up web pages. Since you admitted you have no web pages, you

> therefore have no web server, obviously none of your own, not even

> rented space. LOL! Some marketing company.

>

> You don't even know the jargon. Frankie, you're such a dope. WHS is

> just software, and Microsoft crap. Big freaking deal. What a phony.

>

> I can't think of anybody that would consider the crap that comes out

> your mouth as important. You mean you "save" the crap you post here?

>

> Priceless!

>

Ut oh...I think you're stinkin drunk again!

You said servers...not web servers...!

If you don't know the difference then I'd say you're a newbie and an

idiot to boot.

Always said we have and use one server.

Check it out bozo.

And oh, get a freakin life you stupid loser.

Frank

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July 18, 200717 yr

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:18:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>> I can't think of anybody that would consider the crap that comes out

>> your mouth as important. You mean you "save" the crap you post here?

>>

>> Priceless!

>>

>Ut oh...I think you're stinkin drunk again!

>You said servers...not web servers...!

>If you don't know the difference then I'd say you're a newbie and an

>idiot to boot.

>Always said we have and use one server.

>Check it out bozo.

>And oh, get a freakin life you stupid loser.

>Frank

Tell me where you live and I can recommend a mental health center in

your neighborhood. You need help bad Bozo.

I need to remind little Frankie he said "he was through with

responding to me" that pledge lasted a day.

You know when I'll be through with you Frankie? When you gone for

good.

ROTFLMAO!

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July 18, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> Gary wrote:

>>>>> Alias

>>>> I've been working with computer system long before you knew what a

>>>> computer was.

>>> Really? The first time I operated a computer was in 1968. Remember

>>> punch cards?

>>

>> Yes I was working on HP 3000, Data General 1200, and Univac 1108

>> systems with punch card readers.

>> Also desiging hardware and software during that time.

>>

>>>> I've been playing with different versions of Linux and Ubuntu since

>>>> it first came out.

>>>> Its still a toy for a desktop OS always has been always will be.

>>> What can Windows do that Ubuntu can't do besides accuse you of

>>> piracy, play games requiring DX and attract viruses and malware?

>>

>> Interoperate with businesss software packages and do real work

>

> And "real work" being?

Anything NOT websurfing, email, or word processing/spreadsheets.

Proprietary executables in use. DOS executables that windows can/has

been backwards compatable since '95 (working on 12 years now). Linux

may have been around in the same timeframe, but hasn't progressed

anywhere. Nowhere. Still like it was first released.

I'm so VERY tempted to paste my URL to my linux rant here, but if this

is OT, my rant will not only start a flame war, it will get many people

blacklisted on many people's newsreading client. I won't do it. Just

understand the general feel is that Linux isn't ready for any mainstream

use, and I don't ever see it being ready. Others, such as Apple, can

take it over and remove the less popular systems like Linux. Otherwise

on this thread, there are numbers posted that linux is about 1% internet

market share. Apple's passed linux up a long time ago. I promote Apple

and will physically harm people who advocate linux, if I have access to

them.

>>>> There has been no significant changes in years and you know it.

>>> I've seen a significant change from Ubuntu 6.06 to 7.04.

>>>

>>

>> And no real change in the number of users. Several companys have

>> offered systems with Linux and dropped it because nobody wanted it.

>

> Companies ... companies. I like it better than XP or Vista I am somebody.

No you're not. you're still a number.. lumped in with the rest of the

linux advocates. You aren't making yourself unique, you're just another

linux advocate that doesn't understand the real business world that

needs to deal with the rest of the business world.

Run Microsoft Word 2007 on your Ubuntu natively, without any API

emulators or virtualization and you would have a point, maybe.

>>>> Insert your FUD here.

>>> YOU insert it. Yuck!

>>>

>>

>> Ya right. Grow up.

>

> No sense of humor, eh? I guess you've been doing too much "real work".

You have no sense of real-world interoperability.

I don't know what country you live in, but in the US, each governmental

state offices send out documents in Microsoft format to regional

governmental agencies, and expect a response in Microsoft format.

Including archives that are packed up, and distributed in a

self-extracting (maybe proprietary compression) files. Run the .exe

natively. Try it.

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July 19, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:18:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>

>>>I can't think of anybody that would consider the crap that comes out

>>>your mouth as important. You mean you "save" the crap you post here?

>>>

>>>Priceless!

>>>

>>

>>Ut oh...I think you're stinkin drunk again!

>>You said servers...not web servers...!

>>If you don't know the difference then I'd say you're a newbie and an

>>idiot to boot.

>>Always said we have and use one server.

>>Check it out bozo.

>>And oh, get a freakin life you stupid loser.

>>Frank

>

> Tell me where you live and I can recommend a mental health center in

> your neighborhood.

hehehe...I knew your were a mental case...lol! Why is it that you know

where every mental institution in the entire US is located? Cause you've

been in them?

You need help bad Bozo.

No, it help badly, bozo.

>

> I need to remind little Frankie he said "he was through with

> responding to me" that pledge lasted a day.

I just can't resist booting your loser asre all over this ng, sorry...lol!

>

> You know when I'll be through with you Frankie? When you gone for

> good.

Hold your breath till I'm gone...that'll cure all of your

problems...hahahah...lol!

Frank

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July 19, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> Gary wrote:

>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>> news:eyh83gSyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:emowydJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and

>>>>>>>>> over 98% of the world knows it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> False and false.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last

>>>>>>>>> 10 years.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The inevitable insult from someone jealous because he paid an

>>>>>>>> arm and a leg for Vista only to find out that Ubuntu is better

>>>>>>>> and free. Too bad, baby. Or should I say Hasta La Vista, Baby?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Didn't cost me a dime. And Ubuntu is still crap for anyone who

>>>>>>> does real work.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Truer words were never spoken! :-)

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Course neither of you dare to say what "real work" is and can only

>>>>> snootily sneer at Open Source. Jealousy usually works that way.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> There is a reality that you linux lovers are simply not willing or

>>>> are unable to accept and that is that linux is not a main stream

>>>> business os capable of running most "real world" productive

>>>> software. And please, don't tell me about wine or emulators. We've

>>>> been thru diatribe with you guys many times before and nothing,

>>>> absolutely nothing, has changed. You still can't run most major

>>>> software applications on linux...period! The software applications

>>>> most business need and use on a daily basis will not run on linux.

>>>> Linux has some applications that are "almost" similar, but "almost"

>>>> won't cut it in the "real" business world.

>>>> Sorry!

>>>> You may think in your mind that is will but in the "real" world (a

>>>> place you don't seem to be a part of) it really doesn't run the type

>>>> of software most (90+ %) of all business need to run in order to be

>>>> productive.

>>>>

>>>> Now you may insert your snide, irrelevant reply that makes you feel

>>>> good because it doesn't change a darn thing and deep inside you know

>>>> it doesn't.

>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>> And the real work is? And the software programs are?

>>>

>>> Alias, not holding his breath

>>

>> Remote manage 10 domains - Policies for updates for 2000+ machines -

>> Auto install or deinstall software.

>> Local administration groups - Remote management - and this is just the

>> management part.

>> I'm not going to get into interoperability as it would be way over

>> your head. So I'm waiting for your answer to the above.

>>

>

> Um, that's not "real work" that's managing computers. I suspect there

> is a way when you consider how many large corporations and governments

> use Linux. I do all my work with Ubuntu and it provides me with real

> money. What do the operators of these computers do that Ubuntu can't do?

Managing computers IS real work, Alias. An unmanaged computer is a

vulnerable computer.

Managing infrastructure IS real work.

Managing domains (in the simplest sense, to the most complex sense) IS

real work.

> Can one send and receive email with Ubuntu? Yes.

>

> Can one surf the web? Yes

>

> Can one do spreadsheets, word docs., data base, web sites, Gimp, etc.? Yes.

Sending/receiving email IS NOT real work.

Web surfing IS NOT real work

Word processing, spreadsheets IS NOT real work. Creating/Editing images

IS NOT real work.

> Can one do IM with Ubuntu? Yes. VOIP? Yes.

IM IS NOT real work. VoIP is a protocol/technology, not "work" in my eyes.

> Can one easily get a virus with Ubuntu? No. With Windows? Yes.

Note: I kept your original line intact, no changes. I made the minor

change of excluding 'easily' in the statements below.

Can one get any virus/worm with Win32/64?

(118099 Win32, 5 Win64 on search)

http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Win32

http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Win64

Can one get any virus/worm with BSD?

(Found 40 on search)

http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=BSD

Can one get any virus/worm with Linux?

(Found 1111 on search)

http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Linux

Might I add, the viruses on BSD seem to be both BSD/Linux independant

(i.e: requiring apache to run to exploit these boxes). I found one

(DoS.Linux.Chass) that is Linux specific that 1) doesn't require a 3rd

party binary, 2) doesn't affect BSD, or wasn't designed for BSD.

> Can one easily get malware with Ubuntu? No. With Windows? Yes.

WRONG.

Tracking cookies are considered malware. You get malware with any

Internet-connected machine and a WWW browser.

"malware" is defined as:

"software designed to infiltrate or damage a computer system without the

owner's informed consent" (wikipedia.com)

"any code, program, script, software or any instructions interpreted as

attacking a computer operating system (most probably a Windows operating

system). Malware includes spyware, trojans, viruses/virii, denial of

service/DoS attacks." (urbandictionary.com)

"Malicious computer software that interferes with normal computer

functions or sends personal data about the user to unauthorized parties

over the Internet." (dictionary.com)

I think dictionary.com has it nailed best.

> Is everything updated at once with Ubuntu? Yes. With Windows? No.

Microsoft provides updates in one place for everything Microsoft

(Windows, Office...). But doesn't update 3rd party software such as

Mozilla software, or any governmental agency. Neither does BSD,

directly. You still obtain updates in BSD, but not through the OS's own

servers.

> Does one have to constantly prove that one is not a pirate over and over

> again with Ubuntu? No. With Windows Vista? You betcha.

http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/

You're comparing bananas to oranges (I did not want to use the

'Apples[1] to Oranges' comparison).

Linux wants everyone to share it. Microsoft wants only the people who

have legally paid for a license to use it. This is an unfair

comparison. You should drop this immediately, permanently.

> Alias

Mull this information over, Alias. You aren't entirely right.

[1] http://www.apple.com/

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:23:28 -0600, Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>Word processing, spreadsheets IS NOT real work. Creating/Editing images

>IS NOT real work.

Oh I see, whatever other people do on their computer isn't real work,

but you playing nurse maid is real work. Got it. thanks for sharing.

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July 19, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:23:28 -0600, Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>> Word processing, spreadsheets IS NOT real work. Creating/Editing images

>> IS NOT real work.

>

> Oh I see, whatever other people do on their computer isn't real work,

> but you playing nurse maid is real work. Got it. thanks for sharing.

>

If Alias can define what is real work, so can I.

I'm sorry I missed this point in my previous post.

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July 19, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time

>>>>>>> (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a

>>>>>>> linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together

>>>>>>> quite easily.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>

>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer

>>>>> in his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux

>>>>> free software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they

>>>>> are atheist or communist do you?

>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> I vote democratic and don't believe in a god. I do believe in cause

>>>> and effect. Do you?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> heheh...sure and which party in spain do you align yourself with?

>>> Frank

>>

>> I don't vote in Spain as I am not a Spanish citizen (I have residency

>> due to being married to a Spanish lady). I vote in the US presidential

>> elections and vote democratic. Although there is a very small

>> communist party in Spain, I wouldn't vote for them if I could vote here.

>>

>> So, that just leaves you god to go on about.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I asked you which political party in spain you align yourself with, not

> vote for.

> Also which atheist group do you support?

> What is the URL to your supposed web site?

> Well...?

> Frank

The point of being an atheist is that you are not forced to support ANY

group, and that also enables one to express an unbiased opinion based

upon observation rather than upon some philosophical dogma.

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July 19, 200717 yr

MICHAEL wrote:

> * Frank:

>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny

>>>>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a

>>>>>> lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux

>>>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>

>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer in

>>>> his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux free

>>>> software ideology rather nicely.

>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they are

>>>> atheist or communist do you?

>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept that!

>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>> Frank

>

> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>

> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

> moving right along.

>

> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>

> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a shame.

>

> -Michael

Speaking of which, hey, that DVD worked on my older Asus and got 1024 X

768 so O was pleased with that - a couple of the games wouldn't work and

the ones that did were very slow frame rate which may have been due to

the drive or something, no time to study. They obviously put in a lot of

hard work and it looks very professional.

As to this "Professional Software" kick Frank seems to be on does the

really think that only Microsoft products are professionally written?

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The poster formerly known as Nina Di Boy wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny

>>>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time

>>>>> (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux

>>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>

>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>

>>>

>>> I think Frank *is* Steve Ballmer.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> I will consider that as a real compliment!

>> Thank you.

>> Frank

>

> Oh come on now Frank, you must at least be a better dancer than him!

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4860483760049380308

> )

>

I figured it was some manifestation of a little known programming method

like "Mouse Gestures" but more geared toward sheep :)

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Gary wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

> news:eyh83gSyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Frank wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:emowydJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over

>>>>>>>> 98% of the world knows it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> False and false.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10

>>>>>>>> years.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> False.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The inevitable insult from someone jealous because he paid an arm and

>>>>>>> a leg for Vista only to find out that Ubuntu is better and free. Too

>>>>>>> bad, baby. Or should I say Hasta La Vista, Baby?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Didn't cost me a dime. And Ubuntu is still crap for anyone who does

>>>>>> real work.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Truer words were never spoken! :-)

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Course neither of you dare to say what "real work" is and can only

>>>> snootily sneer at Open Source. Jealousy usually works that way.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> There is a reality that you linux lovers are simply not willing or are

>>> unable to accept and that is that linux is not a main stream business os

>>> capable of running most "real world" productive software. And please,

>>> don't tell me about wine or emulators. We've been thru diatribe with you

>>> guys many times before and nothing, absolutely nothing, has changed. You

>>> still can't run most major software applications on linux...period! The

>>> software applications most business need and use on a daily basis will

>>> not run on linux. Linux has some applications that are "almost" similar,

>>> but "almost" won't cut it in the "real" business world.

>>> Sorry!

>>> You may think in your mind that is will but in the "real" world (a place

>>> you don't seem to be a part of) it really doesn't run the type of

>>> software most (90+ %) of all business need to run in order to be

>>> productive.

>>>

>>> Now you may insert your snide, irrelevant reply that makes you feel good

>>> because it doesn't change a darn thing and deep inside you know it

>>> doesn't.

>>> Frank

>>>

>> And the real work is? And the software programs are?

>>

>> Alias, not holding his breath

>

> Remote manage 10 domains - Policies for updates for 2000+ machines - Auto

> install or deinstall software.

> Local administration groups - Remote management - and this is just the

> management part.

> I'm not going to get into interoperability as it would be way over your

> head. So I'm waiting for your answer to the above.

>

Yes, a lot of corporate job creation can be achieved by taking a simple

job description and making it sound difficult :) After all "Windows"

does make it easy, doesn't it?

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July 19, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>

>> * Frank:

>>

>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time

>>>>>>> (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a

>>>>>>> linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together

>>>>>>> quite easily.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer

>>>>> in his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux

>>>>> free software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they

>>>>> are atheist or communist do you?

>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>>>

>>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept that!

>>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>>

>> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

>> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

>> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

>> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

>> moving right along.

>>

>> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

>> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

>> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>>

>> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

>> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a shame.

>>

>> -Michael

>

> So you're finding it difficult to see an ideological connection between

> atheism, communism and the free software connection?

> Try harder...it's hiding in plain site.

> Frank

>

Your delusions unfortunately are not hiding nearly as well.

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MICHAEL wrote:

> * Frank:

>> MICHAEL wrote:

>>

>>> * Frank:

>>>

>>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny

>>>>>>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a

>>>>>>>> lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux

>>>>>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer in

>>>>>> his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux free

>>>>>> software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they are

>>>>>> atheist or communist do you?

>>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>>>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept that!

>>>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>>>> Frank

>>> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>>>

>>> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

>>> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

>>> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

>>> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

>>> moving right along.

>>>

>>> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

>>> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

>>> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>>>

>>> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

>>> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a shame.

>>>

>>> -Michael

>> So you're finding it difficult to see an ideological connection between

>> atheism, communism and the free software connection?

>> Try harder...it's hiding in plain site.

>> Frank

>

> Are you serious? Who cares? A few goobers, maybe.

>

> Windows or Linux, it's all just fukkin software... that's it.

>

> Gawd dam, I reckon I can get a bit excited about tech crap

> at times- but, some of you freaks really need to get a fukkin life.

>

> -Michael

Hehe, what, and miss all this "Excitement" ???

Who? Me stir the sh*t? Now, would I do a thing like that?

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Tim Judd wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Gary wrote:

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> I've been working with computer system long before you knew what a

>>>>> computer was.

>>>> Really? The first time I operated a computer was in 1968. Remember

>>>> punch cards?

>>>

>>> Yes I was working on HP 3000, Data General 1200, and Univac 1108

>>> systems with punch card readers.

>>> Also desiging hardware and software during that time.

>>>

>>>>> I've been playing with different versions of Linux and Ubuntu since

>>>>> it first came out.

>>>>> Its still a toy for a desktop OS always has been always will be.

>>>> What can Windows do that Ubuntu can't do besides accuse you of

>>>> piracy, play games requiring DX and attract viruses and malware?

>>>

>>> Interoperate with businesss software packages and do real work

>>

>> And "real work" being?

>

> Anything NOT websurfing, email, or word processing/spreadsheets.

> Proprietary executables in use. DOS executables that windows can/has

> been backwards compatable since '95 (working on 12 years now). Linux

> may have been around in the same timeframe, but hasn't progressed

> anywhere. Nowhere. Still like it was first released.

>

> I'm so VERY tempted to paste my URL to my linux rant here, but if this

> is OT, my rant will not only start a flame war, it will get many people

> blacklisted on many people's newsreading client. I won't do it. Just

> understand the general feel is that Linux isn't ready for any mainstream

> use, and I don't ever see it being ready. Others, such as Apple, can

> take it over and remove the less popular systems like Linux. Otherwise

> on this thread, there are numbers posted that linux is about 1% internet

> market share. Apple's passed linux up a long time ago. I promote Apple

> and will physically harm people who advocate linux, if I have access to

> them.

>

>>>>> There has been no significant changes in years and you know it.

>>>> I've seen a significant change from Ubuntu 6.06 to 7.04.

>>>>

>>>

>>> And no real change in the number of users. Several companys have

>>> offered systems with Linux and dropped it because nobody wanted it.

>>

>> Companies ... companies. I like it better than XP or Vista I am somebody.

>

> No you're not. you're still a number.. lumped in with the rest of the

> linux advocates. You aren't making yourself unique, you're just another

> linux advocate that doesn't understand the real business world that

> needs to deal with the rest of the business world.

>

> Run Microsoft Word 2007 on your Ubuntu natively, without any API

> emulators or virtualization and you would have a point, maybe.

>

>>>>> Insert your FUD here.

>>>> YOU insert it. Yuck!

>>>>

>>>

>>> Ya right. Grow up.

>>

>> No sense of humor, eh? I guess you've been doing too much "real work".

>

> You have no sense of real-world interoperability.

>

> I don't know what country you live in, but in the US, each governmental

> state offices send out documents in Microsoft format to regional

> governmental agencies, and expect a response in Microsoft format.

> Including archives that are packed up, and distributed in a

> self-extracting (maybe proprietary compression) files. Run the .exe

> natively. Try it.

So you basically claim then that without Microsoft Word 2007 the known

universe will grind to a screeching halt.

Perhaps the Government usage of Microsoft Word and related products

explains the regular leakage of supposedly confidential info from

Government departments

> http://www.computerbytesman.com/privacy/blair.htm

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Charlie Tame wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to

>>>>>>>>> join religious cults.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the

>>>>>>>> free software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for

>>>>>>>> some time (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being

>>>>>>>> an atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a

>>>>>>>> linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together

>>>>>>>> quite easily.

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr.

>>>>>> Ballmer in his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the

>>>>>> linux free software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they

>>>>>> are atheist or communist do you?

>>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> I vote democratic and don't believe in a god. I do believe in cause

>>>>> and effect. Do you?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> heheh...sure and which party in spain do you align yourself with?

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> I don't vote in Spain as I am not a Spanish citizen (I have residency

>>> due to being married to a Spanish lady). I vote in the US

>>> presidential elections and vote democratic. Although there is a very

>>> small communist party in Spain, I wouldn't vote for them if I could

>>> vote here.

>>>

>>> So, that just leaves you god to go on about.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> I asked you which political party in spain you align yourself with,

>> not vote for.

>> Also which atheist group do you support?

>> What is the URL to your supposed web site?

>> Well...?

>> Frank

>

> The point of being an atheist is that you are not forced to support ANY

> group, and that also enables one to express an unbiased opinion based

> upon observation rather than upon some philosophical dogma.

hahaha...give it up charlie, you've already lost that argument before it

even begun.

Frank

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Charlie Tame wrote:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>

>> * Frank:

>>

>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time

>>>>>>> (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a

>>>>>>> linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together

>>>>>>> quite easily.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>

>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer

>>>>> in his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux

>>>>> free software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they

>>>>> are atheist or communist do you?

>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>>>

>>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept that!

>>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>>

>> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

>> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

>> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

>> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

>> moving right along.

>>

>> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

>> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

>> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>>

>> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

>> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a shame.

>>

>> -Michael

>

> Speaking of which, hey, that DVD worked on my older Asus and got 1024 X

> 768 so O was pleased with that - a couple of the games wouldn't work and

> the ones that did were very slow frame rate which may have been due to

> the drive or something, no time to study. They obviously put in a lot of

> hard work and it looks very professional.

>

> As to this "Professional Software" kick Frank seems to be on does the

> really think that only Microsoft products are professionally written?

Of course not!

Only a penciled neck geek or a new orleans pimp would harbor such a

stupid thought?

Are you from no?

Frank

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Charlie Tame wrote:

> The poster formerly known as Nina Di Boy wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join

>>>>>>> religious cults.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free

>>>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time

>>>>>> (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an

>>>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux

>>>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite

>>>>>> easily.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I think Frank *is* Steve Ballmer.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> I will consider that as a real compliment!

>>> Thank you.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Oh come on now Frank, you must at least be a better dancer than him!

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4860483760049380308

>> )

>>

>

> I figured it was some manifestation of a little known programming method

> like "Mouse Gestures" but more geared toward sheep :)

Oh, so you were only "helping" that sheep over the fence?

hahahaha...lol!

Frank

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Charlie Tame wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> MICHAEL wrote:

>>

>>> * Frank:

>>>

>>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to

>>>>>>>>> join religious cults.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's

>>>>>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't

>>>>>>>> deny they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the

>>>>>>>> free software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for

>>>>>>>> some time (a lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being

>>>>>>>> an atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a

>>>>>>>> linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together

>>>>>>>> quite easily.

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr.

>>>>>> Ballmer in his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the

>>>>>> linux free software ideology rather nicely.

>>>>>> You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they

>>>>>> are atheist or communist do you?

>>>>>> Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are

>>>>>> correct in our assessment.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Making associations like that only proves you are a looney Frank

>>>>

>>>> hehehe...then I'm in good company with Ballmer. I'll gladly accept

>>>> that!

>>>> Much better than that real nut case you open sores addicts worship, RS.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Frank- what is wrong with you?

>>>

>>> I guarantee you I am no communist, and on occasions have

>>> been called a spoiled capitalist pig. My friend, Charlie Tame,

>>> might have even thrown similar words at me before. But, I

>>> do like Linux and I hope the Open Source community keeps

>>> moving right along.

>>>

>>> I debated about even replying to your post.... it's really not worthy

>>> of any comment. You're really letting your true colors show and need

>>> to know how ignorant you've started sounding.

>>>

>>> I reckon you've always been like this, and expecting better from

>>> you in your old age, is just too much for you to handle. That's a

>>> shame.

>>>

>>> -Michael

>>

>> So you're finding it difficult to see an ideological connection

>> between atheism, communism and the free software connection?

>> Try harder...it's hiding in plain site.

>> Frank

>>

>

> Your delusions unfortunately are not hiding nearly as well.

Sh*t, you didn't even have to duck to miss that one, huh?