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norm wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> norm wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> norm wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>> That is how mine looks too (black), but Frank disagrees,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I haven't seen your taskbar have I? so how could I disagree?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> as he has been

>>>>

>>>>> "in the biz" for years. Frank cannot admit that anyone who dares

>>>>> disagree with his "experience" or "knowledge" might be correct.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Try referring to the subject matter and not some supposed subject

>>>> matter. My replies have only been to the referenced taskbar .jpg

>>>> posted by alias. It that too difficult for you to comprehend?

>>>>

>>>> I

>>>>

>>>>> wonder, were Frank to choose "high contrast black" from the

>>>>> available choices in color schemes, how he would "define" that color?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Black is black. RGB 0,0,0 is black. RGB 100,0,0 the color reading

>>>> taken from the top portion of the fountain filled Vista taskbar

>>>> referenced .jpg is not black. Is that, that difficult for you to

>>>> understand?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Would it be black, or something other than what it is stated as being?

>>>>

>>>> If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>> Wouldn't you?

>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>> Frank, my first comment on this issue was related strictly to your

>>> very first reply to Alias about the color black in vista. You said,

>>> and I quote:

>>> "Vista doesn't have any black in it." Frank

>>> Yet vista has "high color black" in the available choices in color

>>> schemes, and when asked " Would it be black, or something other than

>>> what it is stated as being?", you replied above:

>>> "If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>> Wouldn't you?" Frank

>>> So, please explain yourself once more. Does vista have black in it?

>>> Remember, your credence is again on the line, so be very careful how

>>> you reply. No wiggle worming, no lectures on colors, nothing about

>>> your business, your status, your intelligence or anything else. Just

>>> give us nothing but the truth and the whole truth. lol

>>>

>>

>> Nice try norm but no cigar.

>> I said the Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it..and I was strictly

>> referring to the referenced jpg he posted.

>> It that too difficult for you to comprehend or understand?

>> Frank

>>

> At the time I made my original inquiry, the .jpg you cite had not yet

> been posted. Is THAT too difficult for YOU to comprehend or understand?

>

 

No I fully understand. So what's your problem? Have you ever seen a

default "high color" desktop? I sure as heck haven't.

So if I said Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it, and I was not

referring to the posted jpg, then one would most probably deduce that I

was referring to default settings.

I never, ever said Vista was incapable of producing black color or do

you think I did say that?

Frank

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Adam Albright wrote:

>

>>>

>>>Not so fast Bozo. You claimed not once, but over and over that the

>>>Vista GUI was incapable of producing black.

 

I never, ever said Vista is not capable of producing black.

Care to post where I said that?

Well...! Find it and post it wok?

 

Vista doesn't have any black in it.

 

 

Those are you words.

 

Exactly! Vista default GUI does not have any black in it.

What exactly do you think I was referring to?

Not matter what you say the default GUI isn't black.

Can you put black into Vista GUI.

Yep!

So you need to learn to read and comprehend georgie-boy.

Cause I'm right and you're so very wrong on this matter.

It's driving you nuts isn't it?

Idiot!

Frank

*711 wrote:

> I would be glad if my problems stoped on the incompatibility issues

> since at this point in time (july 2007) most of things are already

> compatible (safe NVIDIA, but that is because they are too inconpetent to

> write a working driver so I don't blame Microsoft for this)...

 

nVidia is too busy writing drivers for Linux to be bothered with an OS

that was born to die.

>

> The thing that bugs me the most are the things that keep missing from

> my computer... first my start programs vanished, then my system folders

> faded into the pretty moving wallpapper... and now my shortcuts are

> getting boken and some of the bundled programs (Snipping Tool for

> instance) decide when they work and when don't....

 

That does sound frustrating.

>

> Its getting to my nerves, BUT I am perssisting because "its really

> pretty", and as a designer, I like polish visuals on my work enviroment.

> But still, 2 weeks fighting the ugly beast, and getting closer to

> abandon my 200US$ investment to rot on the drawer by the second.

 

If you really like polished visuals in your work environment, check out

Ubuntu with Beryl:

 

http://www.ubuntu.com

 

Beryl and Ubuntu:

 

 

Alias

Adam Albright wrote:

> I never understand why idiots that post Strawmen NEVER seem to

> understand why they get turned around to expose them as fools.

 

 

You mean like you?

Well, we all got your number, you stupid jackass fool!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> *711 wrote:

>

>> I would be glad if my problems stoped on the incompatibility issues

>> since at this point in time (july 2007) most of things are already

>> compatible (safe NVIDIA, but that is because they are too inconpetent to

>> write a working driver so I don't blame Microsoft for this)...

>

>

> nVidia is too busy writing drivers for Linux to be bothered with an OS

> that was born to die.

>

>

hehehe...now that's a statement you can take to the

bank...hahahaha...that's down right hilarious..!

You're becoming very delusional about linux aren't you.

 

It's really a sickness, eh, cause with you isn't it?

Frank

The problem for me is that I work w/ Maya and sadly Linux is not up for

the task in this department :(

 

Also, all the softwares I use on daly basis are not there, and keep

switching for alternatives is not exactely what I am looking for right

now... nor the entire world warket.

 

Anyway, kinda 2 bright for me the Linux thing, but that "4 desktops"

sounds promissing... I might give it a shot sometime.

 

 

--

*711

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:32:59 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>norm wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> norm wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> norm wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> That is how mine looks too (black), but Frank disagrees,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I haven't seen your taskbar have I? so how could I disagree?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> as he has been

>>>>>

>>>>>> "in the biz" for years. Frank cannot admit that anyone who dares

>>>>>> disagree with his "experience" or "knowledge" might be correct.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Try referring to the subject matter and not some supposed subject

>>>>> matter. My replies have only been to the referenced taskbar .jpg

>>>>> posted by alias. It that too difficult for you to comprehend?

>>>>>

>>>>> I

>>>>>

>>>>>> wonder, were Frank to choose "high contrast black" from the

>>>>>> available choices in color schemes, how he would "define" that color?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Black is black. RGB 0,0,0 is black. RGB 100,0,0 the color reading

>>>>> taken from the top portion of the fountain filled Vista taskbar

>>>>> referenced .jpg is not black. Is that, that difficult for you to

>>>>> understand?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Would it be black, or something other than what it is stated as being?

>>>>>

>>>>> If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>> Wouldn't you?

>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>> Frank, my first comment on this issue was related strictly to your

>>>> very first reply to Alias about the color black in vista. You said,

>>>> and I quote:

>>>> "Vista doesn't have any black in it." Frank

>>>> Yet vista has "high color black" in the available choices in color

>>>> schemes, and when asked " Would it be black, or something other than

>>>> what it is stated as being?", you replied above:

>>>> "If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>> Wouldn't you?" Frank

>>>> So, please explain yourself once more. Does vista have black in it?

>>>> Remember, your credence is again on the line, so be very careful how

>>>> you reply. No wiggle worming, no lectures on colors, nothing about

>>>> your business, your status, your intelligence or anything else. Just

>>>> give us nothing but the truth and the whole truth. lol

>>>>

>>>

>>> Nice try norm but no cigar.

>>> I said the Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it..and I was strictly

>>> referring to the referenced jpg he posted.

>>> It that too difficult for you to comprehend or understand?

>>> Frank

>>>

>> At the time I made my original inquiry, the .jpg you cite had not yet

>> been posted. Is THAT too difficult for YOU to comprehend or understand?

>>

>

>No I fully understand. So what's your problem? Have you ever seen a

>default "high color" desktop? I sure as heck haven't.

>So if I said Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it, and I was not

>referring to the posted jpg, then one would most probably deduce that I

>was referring to default settings.

>I never, ever said Vista was incapable of producing black color or do

>you think I did say that?

>Frank

 

We KNOW you said because your exact quote was posted.

 

Dance Frankie dance! You did say it and when confronted with the post

you said it in you still deny it. You think changing your story, which

you always try to do once painted in a corner works?

 

That makes you:

 

a. A wack job

b. Liar

c. Damn Fool

d. All of the above.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:41:04 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>>

>>>>

>>>>Not so fast Bozo. You claimed not once, but over and over that the

>>>>Vista GUI was incapable of producing black.

>

>I never, ever said Vista is not capable of producing black.

>Care to post where I said that?

>Well...! Find it and post it wok?

>

>Vista doesn't have any black in it.

>Those are you words.

>

>Exactly! Vista default GUI does not have any black in it.

 

Now you're changing your story, trying to add 'default' to what you

said about Vista's GUI. NOT WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAID. You GOT to be a

psycho to think anybody believes any of the crap you post. You

constantly lie about everything even when confronted with your own

words. Exact quotes. You keep pretending you didn't say what everybody

SEES you said. Even when what you deny is in the same thread where you

lie you didn't say it. Damn man, you can't get much more screwed up

then that!

>What exactly do you think I was referring to?

 

We're suppose to guess what you meant and ignore what you actually

said? You love to call others idiots, but the real idiot always turns

out to be YOU and you simply can't bring yourself to admit you keep

screwing up.

>Not matter what you say the default GUI isn't black.

 

You're moving the goal posts again. You made no mention of default

GUI, you simply said the Vista GUI has no black in it.

 

Run Frankie run away from your own words. Entertaining to watch you

slowly hang yourself.

>Can you put black into Vista GUI.

>Yep!

 

Yet you originally claimed you couldn't.

>So you need to learn to read and comprehend georgie-boy.

 

I read you like a book. A 1st grade book because that's your

intellectual limit.

>Cause I'm right and you're so very wrong on this matter.

 

 

Sure Frankie, repeat the same lie like you always do, odd, just like

Justin the other world class idiot that use to hang out here and you

expect people will be dumb enough to believe you.

>It's driving you nuts isn't it?

 

No, I'm helping you prove YOU are nuts.

>Idiot!

>Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:32:59 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>norm wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>That is how mine looks too (black), but Frank disagrees,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I haven't seen your taskbar have I? so how could I disagree?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>as he has been

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"in the biz" for years. Frank cannot admit that anyone who dares

>>>>>>>disagree with his "experience" or "knowledge" might be correct.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Try referring to the subject matter and not some supposed subject

>>>>>>matter. My replies have only been to the referenced taskbar .jpg

>>>>>>posted by alias. It that too difficult for you to comprehend?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>wonder, were Frank to choose "high contrast black" from the

>>>>>>>available choices in color schemes, how he would "define" that color?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Black is black. RGB 0,0,0 is black. RGB 100,0,0 the color reading

>>>>>>taken from the top portion of the fountain filled Vista taskbar

>>>>>>referenced .jpg is not black. Is that, that difficult for you to

>>>>>>understand?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Would it be black, or something other than what it is stated as being?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>>Wouldn't you?

>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Frank, my first comment on this issue was related strictly to your

>>>>>very first reply to Alias about the color black in vista. You said,

>>>>>and I quote:

>>>>>"Vista doesn't have any black in it." Frank

>>>>>Yet vista has "high color black" in the available choices in color

>>>>>schemes, and when asked " Would it be black, or something other than

>>>>>what it is stated as being?", you replied above:

>>>>>"If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>Wouldn't you?" Frank

>>>>>So, please explain yourself once more. Does vista have black in it?

>>>>>Remember, your credence is again on the line, so be very careful how

>>>>>you reply. No wiggle worming, no lectures on colors, nothing about

>>>>>your business, your status, your intelligence or anything else. Just

>>>>>give us nothing but the truth and the whole truth. lol

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Nice try norm but no cigar.

>>>>I said the Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it..and I was strictly

>>>>referring to the referenced jpg he posted.

>>>>It that too difficult for you to comprehend or understand?

>>>>Frank

>>>>

>>>

>>>At the time I made my original inquiry, the .jpg you cite had not yet

>>>been posted. Is THAT too difficult for YOU to comprehend or understand?

>>>

>>

>>No I fully understand. So what's your problem? Have you ever seen a

>>default "high color" desktop? I sure as heck haven't.

>>So if I said Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it, and I was not

>>referring to the posted jpg, then one would most probably deduce that I

>>was referring to default settings.

>>I never, ever said Vista was incapable of producing black color or do

>>you think I did say that?

>>Frank

>

>

> We KNOW you said because your exact quote was posted.

>

> Dance Frankie dance! You did say it and when confronted with the post

> you said it in you still deny it. You think changing your story, which

> you always try to do once painted in a corner works?

>

> That makes you:

>

> a. A wack job

> b. Liar

> c. Damn Fool

> d. All of the above.

>

 

Well, let me ask you something there mr genuis.

Do you have black in your default desktop GUI?

Well....no lying ok?

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:41:04 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>>>>Not so fast Bozo. You claimed not once, but over and over that the

>>>>>Vista GUI was incapable of producing black.

>>

>>I never, ever said Vista is not capable of producing black.

>>Care to post where I said that?

>>Well...! Find it and post it wok?

>>

>>Vista doesn't have any black in it.

>

>

>>Those are you words.

>>

>>Exactly! Vista default GUI does not have any black in it.

>

>

> Now you're changing your story, trying to add 'default' to what you

> said about Vista's GUI. NOT WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAID. You GOT to be a

> psycho to think anybody believes any of the crap you post. You

> constantly lie about everything even when confronted with your own

> words. Exact quotes. You keep pretending you didn't say what everybody

> SEES you said. Even when what you deny is in the same thread where you

> lie you didn't say it. Damn man, you can't get much more screwed up

> then that!

>

>

>>What exactly do you think I was referring to?

>

>

> We're suppose to guess what you meant and ignore what you actually

> said? You love to call others idiots, but the real idiot always turns

> out to be YOU and you simply can't bring yourself to admit you keep

> screwing up.

>

>

>>Not matter what you say the default GUI isn't black.

>

>

> You're moving the goal posts again. You made no mention of default

> GUI, you simply said the Vista GUI has no black in it.

>

> Run Frankie run away from your own words. Entertaining to watch you

> slowly hang yourself.

>

>

>>Can you put black into Vista GUI.

>>Yep!

>

>

> Yet you originally claimed you couldn't.

>

>

>>So you need to learn to read and comprehend georgie-boy.

>

>

> I read you like a book. A 1st grade book because that's your

> intellectual limit.

>

>

>>Cause I'm right and you're so very wrong on this matter.

>

>

>

> Sure Frankie, repeat the same lie like you always do, odd, just like

> Justin the other world class idiot that use to hang out here and you

> expect people will be dumb enough to believe you.

>

>

>>It's driving you nuts isn't it?

>

>

> No, I'm helping you prove YOU are nuts.

>

>

>>Idiot!

>>Frank

>

>

Do you have black, as in RGB 0,0,0., in your default Vista GUI?

No lying allowed!

Frank

What world do you live in then?

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:uteia3pc2bv7nq872scnghf93osffq8umt@4ax.com...

> Maybe in you narrow little world dummy.

>>

>>

>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>news:6dbia3pkjtb139vf7u47uv6lp0irhhc2m7@4ax.com...

>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:13:01 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>>>

>>>>You really have no idea about the difference between transmitted and

>>>>reflected light do you.

>>>>Stick you big nose into your monitor what do you see. Oh surprise R,B,G

>>>>if

>>>>any of those Red, Blue, Or Green have a value of more then 0 guess what

>>>>numb

>>>>nuts it isn't black is it?

>>>

>>> Write this down so you don't look as stupid next time. Monitors

>>> neither have to be nor always are calibrated to RGB color space. So

>>> your premise is bogus. You need a better teacher then Frankie. He's a

>>> hoot to read, but technically he's behind your average ten year old.

>>>

>>

>

You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are all

based on RGB.

You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you can take

up a collection to pay for them.

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:uteia3pc2bv7nq872scnghf93osffq8umt@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:46:05 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>>Write this down so you don't look like a fool Computer Monitors use RGB in

>>there displays.

>>What a dumb ass.

>

> Maybe in you narrow little world dummy.

>>

>>

>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>news:6dbia3pkjtb139vf7u47uv6lp0irhhc2m7@4ax.com...

>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:13:01 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>>>

>>>>You really have no idea about the difference between transmitted and

>>>>reflected light do you.

>>>>Stick you big nose into your monitor what do you see. Oh surprise R,B,G

>>>>if

>>>>any of those Red, Blue, Or Green have a value of more then 0 guess what

>>>>numb

>>>>nuts it isn't black is it?

>>>

>>> Write this down so you don't look as stupid next time. Monitors

>>> neither have to be nor always are calibrated to RGB color space. So

>>> your premise is bogus. You need a better teacher then Frankie. He's a

>>> hoot to read, but technically he's behind your average ten year old.

>>>

>>

>

Sounds like your living in a dream world.

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:2veia3dcej2c3h652t6loq0et0a21fmpqr@4ax.com...

> I've been slapping you silly every time you dumb enough to post.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:34:52 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>What world do you live in then?

 

The real world unlike the small band of fools that infest this

newsgroup and spoil it for everyone else.

* Gary:

> On a computer screen there is no such thing as shades of black. Shades of

> gray but not black. Black on a computer screen is the total lack of R,G,B or

> 0,0,0

>

> We are not mixing paint here but light.

 

Lawd have mercy- who gives a fukk?

 

The fukkin Vista shell team uses "black" in

describing Vista.

 

http://shellrevealed.com/blogs/shellblog/archive/2006/10/03/Back-in-Black_2100_--Or-rather_2C00_-back-OUT-black_2100_.aspx

<quote>

In Vista, we are really trying to reduce the amount of high contrast visual noise in the UI to

make it more comfortable for daily use. Part of that is make the taskbar darker, and another

aspect is making the maximized windows match the taskbar by tinting toward black also. The

black taskbar and black titlebar produce a kind of letter-boxed effect, drawing your eyes

toward the contents. We think it works pretty well. What we do is mix black in with the

selected window color. If you look closely, you can see that your taskbar and maximized

titlebars all have some of your window color mixed in.

</quote>

 

 

-Michael

 

-Michael

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:17:51 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:32:59 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>norm wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>That is how mine looks too (black), but Frank disagrees,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I haven't seen your taskbar have I? so how could I disagree?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>as he has been

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>"in the biz" for years. Frank cannot admit that anyone who dares

>>>>>>>>disagree with his "experience" or "knowledge" might be correct.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Try referring to the subject matter and not some supposed subject

>>>>>>>matter. My replies have only been to the referenced taskbar .jpg

>>>>>>>posted by alias. It that too difficult for you to comprehend?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>wonder, were Frank to choose "high contrast black" from the

>>>>>>>>available choices in color schemes, how he would "define" that color?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Black is black. RGB 0,0,0 is black. RGB 100,0,0 the color reading

>>>>>>>taken from the top portion of the fountain filled Vista taskbar

>>>>>>>referenced .jpg is not black. Is that, that difficult for you to

>>>>>>>understand?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Would it be black, or something other than what it is stated as being?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>>>Wouldn't you?

>>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Frank, my first comment on this issue was related strictly to your

>>>>>>very first reply to Alias about the color black in vista. You said,

>>>>>>and I quote:

>>>>>>"Vista doesn't have any black in it." Frank

>>>>>>Yet vista has "high color black" in the available choices in color

>>>>>>schemes, and when asked " Would it be black, or something other than

>>>>>>what it is stated as being?", you replied above:

>>>>>>"If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>>Wouldn't you?" Frank

>>>>>>So, please explain yourself once more. Does vista have black in it?

>>>>>>Remember, your credence is again on the line, so be very careful how

>>>>>>you reply. No wiggle worming, no lectures on colors, nothing about

>>>>>>your business, your status, your intelligence or anything else. Just

>>>>>>give us nothing but the truth and the whole truth. lol

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Nice try norm but no cigar.

>>>>>I said the Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it..and I was strictly

>>>>>referring to the referenced jpg he posted.

>>>>>It that too difficult for you to comprehend or understand?

>>>>>Frank

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>At the time I made my original inquiry, the .jpg you cite had not yet

>>>>been posted. Is THAT too difficult for YOU to comprehend or understand?

>>>>

>>>

>>>No I fully understand. So what's your problem? Have you ever seen a

>>>default "high color" desktop? I sure as heck haven't.

>>>So if I said Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it, and I was not

>>>referring to the posted jpg, then one would most probably deduce that I

>>>was referring to default settings.

>>>I never, ever said Vista was incapable of producing black color or do

>>>you think I did say that?

>>>Frank

>>

>>

>> We KNOW you said because your exact quote was posted.

>>

>> Dance Frankie dance! You did say it and when confronted with the post

>> you said it in you still deny it. You think changing your story, which

>> you always try to do once painted in a corner works?

>>

>> That makes you:

>>

>> a. A wack job

>> b. Liar

>> c. Damn Fool

>> d. All of the above.

>>

>

>Well, let me ask you something there mr genuis.

>Do you have black in your default desktop GUI?

>Well....no lying ok?

>Frank

 

The person that keeps lying in you Frank as you made painfully obvious

to everyone. You simply refuse to own up to what you originally said,

then you try to wiggle out of what you said and pretend you said or

meant something else. That is what you always do. My guess as to why

to keep doing it is you are so insecure you simply can not admit it

when you are wrong even when proven beyond all doubt that you are

wrong. You act this way in nearly every thread. The more obnoxious you

become the more obvious it is to everyone you are lying.

 

The only logical assumption is you have a lot of personal issues. Get

them resolved. I suggest you visit your local mental heath facility, a

good step in the right direction. Maybe they can help you break out

from you anger management problem and your pathological lying. Both,

as anyone can plainly see are totally out of control.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are all

>based on RGB.

>You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you can take

>up a collection to pay for them.

 

Pathetic how many loud mouth clueless fools hang out in this newsgroup

and never tire of building strawmen in some silly effort to prop up

their delusional view of the world.

 

You freaking a-hole, I know perfectly well how monitors and video

cards work. Obviously you have very limited knowledge since you fool

yourself into thinking they can be configured only one way. RGB is

only one of many color spaces possible that people may work in. That

has NOTHING to do with how colors are generated by the RGB method.

 

As usual idiots like you simply refuse to learn, you can't even read

for comprehension. It isn't my job to try to educate the mindless

legions of dopes like you that stumble into groups like this, but I

try. -)

 

While some nut job was mindlessly babbling about transmitted and

reflected light I was attempting to educate you on learning something

that is useful, ie under NTSC specs used for video work black isn't 0

like the mindless clowns keep cackling it always must be, it is

remapped to 16 while white isn't 255, it becomes 235. Why that is done

is clearly far too technical for a jackass like you to grasp, so I

won't bother even trying to explain it further.

 

If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

too.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:17:51 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:32:59 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>norm wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>That is how mine looks too (black), but Frank disagrees,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I haven't seen your taskbar have I? so how could I disagree?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>as he has been

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>"in the biz" for years. Frank cannot admit that anyone who dares

>>>>>>>>>disagree with his "experience" or "knowledge" might be correct.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Try referring to the subject matter and not some supposed subject

>>>>>>>>matter. My replies have only been to the referenced taskbar .jpg

>>>>>>>>posted by alias. It that too difficult for you to comprehend?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>wonder, were Frank to choose "high contrast black" from the

>>>>>>>>>available choices in color schemes, how he would "define" that color?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Black is black. RGB 0,0,0 is black. RGB 100,0,0 the color reading

>>>>>>>>taken from the top portion of the fountain filled Vista taskbar

>>>>>>>>referenced .jpg is not black. Is that, that difficult for you to

>>>>>>>>understand?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Would it be black, or something other than what it is stated as being?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>>>>Wouldn't you?

>>>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank, my first comment on this issue was related strictly to your

>>>>>>>very first reply to Alias about the color black in vista. You said,

>>>>>>>and I quote:

>>>>>>>"Vista doesn't have any black in it." Frank

>>>>>>>Yet vista has "high color black" in the available choices in color

>>>>>>>schemes, and when asked " Would it be black, or something other than

>>>>>>>what it is stated as being?", you replied above:

>>>>>>>"If I chose to run "high contrast" black I'd expect it to be black.

>>>>>>>Wouldn't you?" Frank

>>>>>>>So, please explain yourself once more. Does vista have black in it?

>>>>>>>Remember, your credence is again on the line, so be very careful how

>>>>>>>you reply. No wiggle worming, no lectures on colors, nothing about

>>>>>>>your business, your status, your intelligence or anything else. Just

>>>>>>>give us nothing but the truth and the whole truth. lol

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Nice try norm but no cigar.

>>>>>>I said the Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it..and I was strictly

>>>>>>referring to the referenced jpg he posted.

>>>>>>It that too difficult for you to comprehend or understand?

>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>At the time I made my original inquiry, the .jpg you cite had not yet

>>>>>been posted. Is THAT too difficult for YOU to comprehend or understand?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>No I fully understand. So what's your problem? Have you ever seen a

>>>>default "high color" desktop? I sure as heck haven't.

>>>>So if I said Vista GUI doesn't have any black in it, and I was not

>>>>referring to the posted jpg, then one would most probably deduce that I

>>>>was referring to default settings.

>>>>I never, ever said Vista was incapable of producing black color or do

>>>>you think I did say that?

>>>>Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>We KNOW you said because your exact quote was posted.

>>>

>>>Dance Frankie dance! You did say it and when confronted with the post

>>>you said it in you still deny it. You think changing your story, which

>>>you always try to do once painted in a corner works?

>>>

>>>That makes you:

>>>

>>>a. A wack job

>>>b. Liar

>>>c. Damn Fool

>>>d. All of the above.

>>>

>>

>>Well, let me ask you something there mr genuis.

>>Do you have black in your default desktop GUI?

>>Well....no lying ok?

>>Frank

>

>

> The person that keeps lying in you Frank as you made painfully obvious

> to everyone. You simply refuse to own up to what you originally said,

> then you try to wiggle out of what you said and pretend you said or

> meant something else. That is what you always do. My guess as to why

> to keep doing it is you are so insecure you simply can not admit it

> when you are wrong even when proven beyond all doubt that you are

> wrong. You act this way in nearly every thread. The more obnoxious you

> become the more obvious it is to everyone you are lying.

>

> The only logical assumption is you have a lot of personal issues. Get

> them resolved. I suggest you visit your local mental heath facility, a

> good step in the right direction. Maybe they can help you break out

> from you anger management problem and your pathological lying. Both,

> as anyone can plainly see are totally out of control.

>

 

I'll presume the answer to my question (since you won't respond to it)

is an emphatic "NO".

End of story meathead.

Hahahah...told you so!

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:34:52 -0700, "Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>

>>What world do you live in then?

>

>

> The real world unlike the small band of fools that infest this

> newsgroup and spoil it for everyone else.

>

>

You live in a drunken state of self delusion you stupid POS!

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>

>>You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are all

>>based on RGB.

>>You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you can take

>>up a collection to pay for them.

>

>

> Pathetic how many loud mouth clueless fools hang out in this newsgroup

> and never tire of building strawmen in some silly effort to prop up

> their delusional view of the world.

>

> You freaking a-hole, I know perfectly well how monitors and video

> cards work. Obviously you have very limited knowledge since you fool

> yourself into thinking they can be configured only one way. RGB is

> only one of many color spaces possible that people may work in. That

> has NOTHING to do with how colors are generated by the RGB method.

>

> As usual idiots like you simply refuse to learn, you can't even read

> for comprehension. It isn't my job to try to educate the mindless

> legions of dopes like you that stumble into groups like this, but I

> try. -)

>

> While some nut job was mindlessly babbling about transmitted and

> reflected light I was attempting to educate you on learning something

> that is useful, ie under NTSC specs used for video work black isn't 0

> like the mindless clowns keep cackling it always must be, it is

> remapped to 16 while white isn't 255, it becomes 235. Why that is done

> is clearly far too technical for a jackass like you to grasp, so I

> won't bother even trying to explain it further.

>

> If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

> first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

> position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

> too.

>

Stop back pedaling bozo. You have not idea what you're talking about.

You're an account and know nothing about color.

Admit it you fool.

Frank

MICHAEL wrote:

> * Gary:

>

>>On a computer screen there is no such thing as shades of black. Shades of

>>gray but not black. Black on a computer screen is the total lack of R,G,B or

>>0,0,0

>>

>>We are not mixing paint here but light.

>

>

> Lawd have mercy- who gives a fukk?

>

> The fukkin Vista shell team uses "black" in

> describing Vista.

>

> http://shellrevealed.com/blogs/shellblog/archive/2006/10/03/Back-in-Black_2100_--Or-rather_2C00_-back-OUT-black_2100_.aspx

> <quote>

> In Vista, we are really trying to reduce the amount of high contrast visual noise in the UI to

> make it more comfortable for daily use. Part of that is make the taskbar darker, and another

> aspect is making the maximized windows match the taskbar by tinting toward black also. The

> black taskbar and black titlebar produce a kind of letter-boxed effect, drawing your eyes

> toward the contents. We think it works pretty well. What we do is mix black in with the

> selected window color. If you look closely, you can see that your taskbar and maximized

> titlebars all have some of your window color mixed in.

> </quote>

>

>

> -Michael

>

> -Michael

 

Hahaha..."What we do is mix black in with the

selected window color".

There ya go!

Thanks Michael!

There are no color displays the use anything other then some value of RBG

when is comes to displaying the image on the CRT, Plasma, LCD etc. Doesn't

matter what "many color spaces " you work with it always starts in your

video card as a value of RBG and ends up on the display as some value of RBG

you dumb ass. NTSC is converted to what? A value of RBG DUH! and a value of

0,0,0 for RBG is the only possible combination for black. The NTSC 16 you

talk about is converted back to RGB value of 0,0,0. Do you get it yet? No

well got to the local electronics store and stick you thick skull up to any

display device and you will see some value of RBG. You just don't get it do

you. What a ignorant fool you are.

 

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:8bsja3tb7i28oueqh7k5oc5dv3etmocb5s@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>

>>You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are all

>>based on RGB.

>>You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you can

>>take

>>up a collection to pay for them.

>

> Pathetic how many loud mouth clueless fools hang out in this newsgroup

> and never tire of building strawmen in some silly effort to prop up

> their delusional view of the world.

>

> You freaking a-hole, I know perfectly well how monitors and video

> cards work. Obviously you have very limited knowledge since you fool

> yourself into thinking they can be configured only one way. RGB is

> only one of many color spaces possible that people may work in. That

> has NOTHING to do with how colors are generated by the RGB method.

>

> As usual idiots like you simply refuse to learn, you can't even read

> for comprehension. It isn't my job to try to educate the mindless

> legions of dopes like you that stumble into groups like this, but I

> try. -)

>

> While some nut job was mindlessly babbling about transmitted and

> reflected light I was attempting to educate you on learning something

> that is useful, ie under NTSC specs used for video work black isn't 0

> like the mindless clowns keep cackling it always must be, it is

> remapped to 16 while white isn't 255, it becomes 235. Why that is done

> is clearly far too technical for a jackass like you to grasp, so I

> won't bother even trying to explain it further.

>

> If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

> first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

> position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

> too.

>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:28:58 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>> If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

>> first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

>> position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

>> too.

>>

>Stop back pedaling bozo. You have not idea what you're talking about.

>You're an account and know nothing about color.

>Admit it you fool.

>Frank

 

Are you drunk again so early in the day Frank?

 

Seems like it when you say "You have not idea..." and

"You're an account..."

 

This space reserved for Frankie to pretend he didn't say it.

Frank wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are

>>> all based on RGB.

>>> You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you

>>> can take up a collection to pay for them.

>>

>>

>> Pathetic how many loud mouth clueless fools hang out in this newsgroup

>> and never tire of building strawmen in some silly effort to prop up

>> their delusional view of the world.

>> You freaking a-hole, I know perfectly well how monitors and video

>> cards work. Obviously you have very limited knowledge since you fool

>> yourself into thinking they can be configured only one way. RGB is

>> only one of many color spaces possible that people may work in. That

>> has NOTHING to do with how colors are generated by the RGB method.

>> As usual idiots like you simply refuse to learn, you can't even read

>> for comprehension. It isn't my job to try to educate the mindless

>> legions of dopes like you that stumble into groups like this, but I

>> try. -)

>>

>> While some nut job was mindlessly babbling about transmitted and

>> reflected light I was attempting to educate you on learning something

>> that is useful, ie under NTSC specs used for video work black isn't 0

>> like the mindless clowns keep cackling it always must be, it is

>> remapped to 16 while white isn't 255, it becomes 235. Why that is done

>> is clearly far too technical for a jackass like you to grasp, so I

>> won't bother even trying to explain it further.

>>

>> If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

>> first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

>> position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

>> too.

> Stop back pedaling bozo. You have not idea what you're talking about.

> You're an account and know nothing about color.

> Admit it you fool.

> Frank

 

Just curious, how can a person be "an account"?

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0700, "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> You crack me up. You don't even know your video card and monitor are

>>>> all based on RGB.

>>>> You need a couple of computer classes. Get a tin cup and maybe you

>>>> can take up a collection to pay for them.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Pathetic how many loud mouth clueless fools hang out in this newsgroup

>>> and never tire of building strawmen in some silly effort to prop up

>>> their delusional view of the world.

>>> You freaking a-hole, I know perfectly well how monitors and video

>>> cards work. Obviously you have very limited knowledge since you fool

>>> yourself into thinking they can be configured only one way. RGB is

>>> only one of many color spaces possible that people may work in. That

>>> has NOTHING to do with how colors are generated by the RGB method.

>>> As usual idiots like you simply refuse to learn, you can't even read

>>> for comprehension. It isn't my job to try to educate the mindless

>>> legions of dopes like you that stumble into groups like this, but I

>>> try. -)

>>>

>>> While some nut job was mindlessly babbling about transmitted and

>>> reflected light I was attempting to educate you on learning something

>>> that is useful, ie under NTSC specs used for video work black isn't 0

>>> like the mindless clowns keep cackling it always must be, it is

>>> remapped to 16 while white isn't 255, it becomes 235. Why that is done

>>> is clearly far too technical for a jackass like you to grasp, so I

>>> won't bother even trying to explain it further.

>>>

>>> If you're auditioning for newsgroup clown, shouldn't you ask Frankie

>>> first if you intend to replace him? He already has a firm grip on that

>>> position and obviously enjoys making an ass of himself. Seems you do

>>> too.

>>

>> Stop back pedaling bozo. You have not idea what you're talking about.

>> You're an account and know nothing about color.

>> Admit it you fool.

>> Frank

>

>

> Just curious, how can a person be "an account"?

>

> Alias

 

It's the result of being a half-assed accountant like adam...hahahaha!

Frank

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