* Mike:

> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

>

> Then what's the point of it?

 

Why ask such a stupid question?

 

LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste

of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has

released numerous VHD products.

 

But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.

 

 

-Michael

Mike wrote:

> In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Do you enjoy being a bigot?

>

> Do you enjoy being a troll?

>

> Mike

 

Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,

WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people. Lying about

and insulting people like Frank does most definitely helps no one.

 

Alias

Mike wrote:

> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

>

> Then what's the point of it?

>

> Mike

 

To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course. You don't

really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the

programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.

 

Alias

In article <uithnrsyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Mike wrote:

> > In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> >

> >> Do you enjoy being a bigot?

> >

> > Do you enjoy being a troll?

> >

> > Mike

>

> Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,

> WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people.

 

Preaching Linux in a Windows group is the very definition of troll.

What kind of reaction would I get if I went to the Linux groups and

answered *every* request for help with "switch to Windows"?

 

Mike

In article <#iOYpssyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Mike wrote:

> > In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> >

> >> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

> >

> > Then what's the point of it?

> >

> > Mike

>

> To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course.

 

Which it (mostly) did. The only thing that didn't work was the

wireless nic. Wired nic worked fine.

> You don't really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the

> programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.

 

Sure you do. There were no apps that I wanted to install, since there

are none that I wanted period. For some people I'm sure it's good

enough, just not for me.

 

Mike

In article <etNpeqsyHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

> * Mike:

> > In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> >

> >> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

> >

> > Then what's the point of it?

>

> Why ask such a stupid question?

 

Because Alias raised the issue.

> LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste

> of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has

> released numerous VHD products.

 

Exactly. That's what I used it for. I just didn't like the feel or

taste.

> But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.

 

It doesn't install in VPC. I've tried several times, with 2 versions.

 

Mike

Mike wrote:

> In article <uithnrsyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Mike wrote:

>>> In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Do you enjoy being a bigot?

>>> Do you enjoy being a troll?

>>>

>>> Mike

>> Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,

>> WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people.

>

> Preaching Linux in a Windows group is the very definition of troll.

> What kind of reaction would I get if I went to the Linux groups and

> answered *every* request for help with "switch to Windows"?

>

> Mike

 

Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't

 

Buggy

 

Virus or malware prone.

 

Riddled with DRM.

 

Packaged with WPA and WGA.

 

Soooooooooooo, if you think one should have control over one's computer,

Ubuntu is obviously a better choice than Vista.

 

Don't like my suggestions? Don't read them.

 

Alias

Mike wrote:

> In article <#iOYpssyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Mike wrote:

>>> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

>>> Then what's the point of it?

>>>

>>> Mike

>> To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course.

>

> Which it (mostly) did. The only thing that didn't work was the

> wireless nic. Wired nic worked fine.

>

>> You don't really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the

>> programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.

>

> Sure you do. There were no apps that I wanted to install, since there

> are none that I wanted period. For some people I'm sure it's good

> enough, just not for me.

>

> Mike

 

Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it.

The live CD won't show what Beryl can do, for example. You can't find

out what the search is like unless you've installed it and have

something to search for, etc., etc. You can't play with Streamtuner and

see how well it rips songs off the radio and converts them into MP3s. Of

course, if you went in with the attitude that you won't like it, it's

unlikely you will.

 

Alias

In article <eFx3m5syHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't

 

Ready for the Desktop.

 

Useful.

 

Easy to install/use.

 

Compatible with existing software sold everywhere.

 

Compatible with what your friends/neighbors/coworkers are running.

 

Sooooooo, if you want to actually run real applications on your

computer, and not spend months testing endless "distros" to see which

one is "right for you", Windows is obviously a better choice than Linux.

 

Don't like Windows? Go away.

 

Mike

In article <#JSbQ8syHHA.5408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it.

> The live CD won't show what Beryl can do, for example. You can't find

> out what the search is like unless you've installed it and have

> something to search for, etc., etc. You can't play with Streamtuner and

> see how well it rips songs off the radio and converts them into MP3s.

 

But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do

I gain with Linux?

> Of course, if you went in with the attitude that you won't like it, it's

> unlikely you will.

 

Sounds like your attitude about Windows.

 

Mike

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:45:22 -0600, Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>> If a piece of fukkin software disturbs you that much, you really

>>> have some serious issues that need to addressed by a professional

>>> and a few prescription medications.

>>>

>>>

>>> -Michael

>> No, I don't do prescription drugs, I only take a rare sleeping pill and

>> a pain killer that are available over-the-counter.

>>

>> And I'm not paying some quack to help me with "a problem" I don't have.

>

> Wait till you get older.

>

>> That's what America is coming to, drug everyone up, so everyone is

>> trying to cope with everyone else. No thank you. I'll save my money

>> and use it elsewhere.

>

> Wishful thinking. You can't control what illnesses you face as you

> age. That's why the health care issue is only going to get worse with

> the graying of America. Now that baby boomers are approaching or just

> starting retirement age they are entering the phase of life where

> medical problems are more common.

>

 

Yeah, and there's LOTS of those baby boomers! Without major reform the

SS system and the healthcare system are going to be fscked. Soon!

 

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* Mike:

> In article <etNpeqsyHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

>

>> * Mike:

>>> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

>>> Then what's the point of it?

>> Why ask such a stupid question?

>

> Because Alias raised the issue.

>

>> LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste

>> of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has

>> released numerous VHD products.

>

> Exactly. That's what I used it for. I just didn't like the feel or

> taste.

>

>> But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.

>

> It doesn't install in VPC. I've tried several times, with 2 versions.

 

Then you are doing something wrong or your machine

is the problem. Sound familiar?

 

Seriously, try using VMWare.... so much better than VPC 2007.

 

I have PCLinuxOS installed in a vm and also on a partition on another

desktop, it replaced an Ubuntu install I had.

 

My next "project" will be to finally give FreeBSD 6.2 a try.

 

 

-Michael

Frank wrote:

> Test User wrote:

>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:07:07 -0400

>> Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>> If Windows is sooo damn hot, why are massive websites like yahoo and

>>>> many ISP's gravitating and using BSD?

>>

>>

>>

>>> For the same reason Hotmail uses Windows? They use whatever works

>>> for them?

>>>

>>> Mike

>>

>>

>> You may want to google hotmail+FreeBSD. Microsoft made the switch due

>> to embarrassment and made the admission that on the server side that

>> FreeBSD was superior to windows.. Have a look at the url below..

>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/11/21/ms_paper_touts_unix/

>>

>> Mike, You will have to admit that FreeBSD makes a better desktop than

>> Windows or MAC.

>

> Oh please don't quote that pretend ms hating rag 'theregister". They

> refer to ms a the "vole".

> They have no creditability...neither do you for that matter.

> Frank

 

Neither does MS, Frank.

 

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On Jul 16, 2007, msnews.microsoft.com wrote:

> I think Microsoft should change "The WOW Starts Now" to "The WTF Starts

> Now".

 

I'm not anti-MS or even anit-Vista, but I just want to commend you on the

creativity of this subject line. It made me laugh out loud.

 

--

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Remember: It is To Laugh

* Mike:

> In article <#JSbQ8syHHA.5408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>

>> Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it.

>> The live CD won't show what Beryl can do, for example. You can't find

>> out what the search is like unless you've installed it and have

>> something to search for, etc., etc. You can't play with Streamtuner and

>> see how well it rips songs off the radio and converts them into MP3s.

>

> But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do

> I gain with Linux?

 

Linux is free.

>> Of course, if you went in with the attitude that you won't like it, it's

>> unlikely you will.

>

> Sounds like your attitude about Windows.

 

It's the attitude most fanatics display about their cause/crusade.

Or, they're just close-minded and ignorant. Actually,

I think in order to be a true fanatic or zealot, requires

those two things and a dash or bucket of lunacy.

 

 

-Michael

Lang Murphy wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

> news:%23gWwlFhyHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Lang Murphy wrote:

>>> "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message

>>> news:no-4DFF5A.09545717072007@news.supernews.com...

>>>> In article <#PQAWcHyHHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

>>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Another Windows fan who can't respond to content and can only hurl the

>>>>> same, tired and unfounded insults.

>>>>

>>>> Another Linux marketing droid who doesn't understand that this is a

>>>> Windows group and no one gives a crap about Linux or "free software".

>>>>

>>>> Mike

>>>

>>>

>>> I both agree and disagree. Alias is a Ubuntu troll who refuses to

>>> admit that his OT, constant, day-in, day-out, posts about Ubuntu in

>>> -this- ng make him a troll. And I -do- give a crap about nix... if a

>>> distro ever shows up that "works" for me, I'll happily run it on one

>>> of my boxes here. Right next to one of my Vista boxes. -) (I need to

>>> D/L and install PCLinuxOS... as I told another poster, in another

>>> thread, I would... haven't gotten around to it yet...)

>>>

>>> Lang

>>

>> Helping frustrated Vista users by suggesting an alternative that they

>> have probably never heard of is not trolling. It's a *genuine* and

>> viable suggestion.

>>

>> Alias

>

>

> Well, I guess I'll just to have to keep replying to your "broken record"

> rationalized response. Your Ubuntu jihad in this ng is not a -genuine-

> attempt to help Vista users, no matter how many times you claim it is.

> Every OS is a viable alternative. Thank god we don't have OS/2 freaks,

> or RedHat freaks, or OS/X freaks posting constantly, day-in, day-out,

> that Vista sucks and we should all try that other OS.

>

> There are a number of other nix guys who hang out in this ng... one

> difference between you and them is they don't barge in on ten threads a

> day and parrot "Try Ubuntu." The other difference is that they,

> apparently, have enough PC knowledge to actually offer assistance to

> other people. I've seen your attempts at "assistance." You can't be

> serious. Oh, wait, you are. No help whatsoever.

>

> Lang

 

http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9612/df961220.jpg

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Alias wrote:

>

>

> Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it....

 

------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, well, well...now we've arrived at a tipping point. You've now just

admitted (finally!) that you can't really know what an os is like

without installing it.

We all have known and believed that fact from the beginning. It's good

that you've finally figured that one out!

Therefore you don't really know what Microsoft's Vista Operating System

is really like because you've never installed it.

So please, from this point on, refrain from referring to Vista in any

objective manner and stop comparing Vista to that junk linux toy os as

you have no real, honest point of reference, as you've just admitted.

 

First honest post we've ever seen from you.

Thank you.

Frank

 

You may now post your lying, deceptive response below...hahahah...lol!

Alias wrote:

 

>

> I'll keep posting my Ubuntu suggestions to the newbies that are tearing

> their hair out because of Vista and you keep posting your insults.

>

> Deal?

>

> Alias

 

No more lies from you...stop lying to us and to yourself...no more!

Deal?

Frank

Mike wrote:

> In article <etNpeqsyHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

>

>> * Mike:

>>> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

>>> Then what's the point of it?

>> Why ask such a stupid question?

>

> Because Alias raised the issue.

>

>> LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste

>> of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has

>> released numerous VHD products.

>

> Exactly. That's what I used it for. I just didn't like the feel or

> taste.

>

>> But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.

>

> It doesn't install in VPC. I've tried several times, with 2 versions.

>

> Mike

 

Try VMware, it installs and runs great under there.

 

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In article <uKUfKQtyHHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

> Then you are doing something wrong or your machine

> is the problem. Sound familiar?

 

Yes, I *am* doing something wrong - trying to install Linux.

 

Mike

In article <OIfxIWtyHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

> > But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do

> > I gain with Linux?

>

> Linux is free.

 

That's it? That's the BIG advantage? There is free food and lodging

available at your local homeless shelter also. Are you using it?

It's better than buying your own house and food because it's free!

 

Mike

* Mike:

> In article <uKUfKQtyHHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

>

>> Then you are doing something wrong or your machine

>> is the problem. Sound familiar?

>

> Yes, I *am* doing something wrong - trying to install Linux.

 

Like I said, try VMWare or install it on a partition.

 

 

-Michael

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:10:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it....

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------

>Well, well, well...now we've arrived at a tipping point. You've now just

>admitted (finally!) that you can't really know what an os is like

>without installing it.

>We all have known and believed that fact from the beginning. It's good

>that you've finally figured that one out!

>Therefore you don't really know what Microsoft's Vista Operating System

>is really like because you've never installed it.

>So please, from this point on, refrain from referring to Vista in any

>objective manner and stop comparing Vista to that junk linux toy os as

>you have no real, honest point of reference, as you've just admitted.

>

>First honest post we've ever seen from you.

>Thank you.

>Frank

>

>You may now post your lying, deceptive response below...hahahah...lol!

 

 

Once an idiot, always an idiot. That sums up Frank's posting history.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:22:16 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <uKUfKQtyHHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

>

>> Then you are doing something wrong or your machine

>> is the problem. Sound familiar?

>

>Yes, I *am* doing something wrong - trying to install Linux.

>

>Mike

 

So you finally admit you're one of those dummies that can't figure out

HOW to install Linux. Thanks for sharing.

 

The FACT is Linux is often a superior OS for many uses, the problem is

no major software developers support it hence it isn't suitable for a

lot of users that use high end Windows software where there simply

aren't any really good alternatives...yet. That's the catch 22.

* Mike:

> In article <OIfxIWtyHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

>

>>> But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do

>>> I gain with Linux?

>> Linux is free.

>

> That's it? That's the BIG advantage? There is free food and lodging

> available at your local homeless shelter also. Are you using it?

> It's better than buying your own house and food because it's free!

 

Don't be so ridiculous. Comparing housing and even food to

some fukkin piece of software is just plain ignut.

 

However, if the housing and food was of the same quality or

better and was being giving away for free- could you blame

folks for at least trying it?

 

 

-Michael