"kurttrail" whined...

>

> Not in my book. And I doubt all those that bought Vista on Vista-capable

> machines feel as you do.

>

 

I doubt any MS employees applied any of those stickers. Let's call a duck a

duck, shall we?

 

Manufacturers bought/made the hardware.

Manufacturers built/assembled the systems.

Manufacturers decided if their computers were Vista-Capable or not.

Manufacturers applied stickers to their products/packaging.

Manufacturers advertised their XP computers as Vista-Capable.

Manufacturers sold those computers.

 

If some of the Manufacturers didn't follow the specs, and didn't bother Beta

testing Vista on their computers before telling consumers they would run

Vista, then why would MS be held legally responsible for someone else's

advertised hardware? It just doesn't make sense from any stand point except

greed. MS has the money, so MS gets sued. Why? Because Manufacturers wanted

to sell more XP machines six months before Vista was released.

Sir... "global consequences"? Seriously?

 

All you post is a ridiculous amount of fluff, and ZERO facts, just like the

rest of the useless lazy trolls in here.

 

Thanks for the laughs.

 

"On the Bridge!" wrote:

> Nah, its you who need the classes, since you seem to not be able to grasp

> the big picture of how bad vista really is and the global consequences of

> such trash OS.

>

> The more you learn about vista, the more mistakes you see it has.

>

> Trying to pull that snobby "superiority complex" vista boy trick, just

> backfired flat in your face!!!!

>

> It shows how little you really know! LOL

>

>

> "Dave Cox" <dcox1961@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:Xns9A663D1EACA5Ddcoxgmailcom@207.46.248.16...

> > =?Utf-8?B?YW5pdGFtYXJt?= <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> > in news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com:

> >

> >> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my

> >> money back or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek

> >> to figure this game out. How long do you think it should take

> >> reading all the tips and quips to get all this vista crp to work

> >> smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody interested, I may

> >> need alittle input on writing this petetion.

> >>

> >

> >

> > You would probably get better results taking some computer classes at

> > your local community college.

> >

> >

>

>

>

Thanks Tom. No tech support, no refunds. I am not an idiot but I agree that

98, me, 2000 and xp were very user friendly. I taught myself. But not with

this one. $900.00 /6months ago, out of pocket. Since Vista I cannot seem to

complete most things that I start so I mostly don't even use my pc anymore.

Nothing seems to function completely.

 

"Tom Allen" wrote:

>

> "anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...

> > Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money

> > back or I

> > want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game

> > out.

> > How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to

> > get

> > all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off.

> > Anybody

> > interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.

>

> Is this just for those who can't get it to work ?

> What about the rest of us who are using the same product without

> problems ?

> What about those who just don't like the look of it ?

> Have you asked your retailer/OEM for your money back ?

>

> I think Mr G has moved on and is now in the business of giving money

> away so you might be lucky :->

>

> Tom

>

>

>

here wrote:

> I doubt any MS employees applied any of those stickers. Let's call a

> duck a duck, shall we?

>

> Manufacturers bought/made the hardware. Manufacturers built/assembled

> the systems. Manufacturers decided if their computers were Vista-Capable

> or not. Manufacturers applied stickers to their products/packaging.

> Manufacturers advertised their XP computers as Vista-Capable.

> Manufacturers sold those computers.

>

> If some of the Manufacturers didn't follow the specs, and didn't bother

> Beta testing Vista on their computers before telling consumers they

> would run Vista, then why would MS be held legally responsible for

> someone else's advertised hardware? It just doesn't make sense from any

> stand point except greed. MS has the money, so MS gets sued. Why?

> Because Manufacturers wanted to sell more XP machines six months before

> Vista was released.

 

http://www.msblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/vistacapable.jpg

 

MS's trademark is used in the program. That is MS's seal of approval.

 

Vista-Capable was a program created by MS and its moron marketing

department. That's why MS is getting sued.

 

So lets call the mastermind of this anti-consumer marketing con-job a

duck.

 

"Exactly. So, logically..."

"If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood."

"And therefore?"

"A witch!"

 

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redrunner wrote:

> Sir... "global consequences"? Seriously?

>

> All you post is a ridiculous amount of fluff, and ZERO facts, just like

> the rest of the useless lazy trolls in here.

>

> Thanks for the laughs.

>

 

Well you certainly showed him how to not to use fluff, and how to use

facts in your reply post!

 

[/sarcasm]

 

Now why don't you try to explain your own opinion on why Vista's impact

isn't global?

 

Or are you just a useless & lazy pro-MS troll like Frank?

 

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anitamarm wrote:

> Vista is a disaster.

 

No it isn't.

 

We all know it.

 

What do you mean "we'?

 

I am upset and I want my money back

 

Then get a refund.

 

or I

> want a permanent fix.

 

For what?

 

You do not have to be a geek to figure this game out.

 

Figure out what?

 

> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to get

> all this vista crp to work smoothly.

 

A pair of seconds? A NY second? You tell us.

 

This is an outright rip off.

 

Really?

 

Anybody

> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.

 

Try having your mental aide at the institution help you.

Frank

On the Bridge! wrote:

>

> having said that, for most people vista sucks.. LOL

>

>No, you SUCK!!!

Frank

Rach wrote:

> Happy as a clam here.

 

You do know why clams are happy, right?

 

Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

 

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"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message

news:47e10ee8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Its crap, he is right..

>

> Sure there are some that have had no problems, but this OS is released to

> the world

> and should work on all kinds of comptuers.

>

> Dont think its a disaster? Google a bit. See what comes up...

> if you still dont agree that means you are biased.

>

>

 

"... if you still don't agree that means you are biased ..." - so at which

point did you become the final arbiter on what is good and what is not in

operating system design (please don't bother with saying that just because

you can Google and see some people having problems then it proves there are

masses and masses of people with issues - that process was resoundingly

beaten to death in the group recently - and obviously the millions of happy

Vista users do not need to go to newsgroups and website to say how happy

they are, they just get on with using their device.).

I suppose you could say using your "logic" that those of use with no

problems at all and thousands of deployed Vista machines also not

experiencing any problems are the majority/norm and that Vista is a

perfectly acceptable OS and therefore anyone who thinks as you do is biased!

(it works both ways).

 

Like all products particularly ones that have to support a near infinite mix

of hardware and software there will be those that experience some issues and

plenty you will not.

--

Mike Brannigan

 

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message

news:47e10ee8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Its crap, he is right..

>

> Sure there are some that have had no problems, but this OS is released to

> the world

> and should work on all kinds of comptuers.

>

> Dont think its a disaster? Google a bit. See what comes up...

> if you still dont agree that means you are biased.

>

>

> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:%236eFgCciIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Disaster? Speak for yourself.

>>

>> --

>> Peter

>> Toronto, Canada

>> XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1

>> Triple Boot

>>

>> "anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...

>>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back

>>> or I

>>> want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game

>>> out.

>>> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to

>>> get

>>> all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off.

>>> Anybody

>>> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.

>>

>

>

"anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...

> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back

> or I

> want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game

> out.

> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to get

> all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody

> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.

 

 

Not interested.

Vista runs great for me.

 

Among other things, you probably have inadequate hardware.

 

 

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kurttrail wrote:

> Rach wrote:

>

>

>>Happy as a clam here.

>

>

> You do know why clams are happy, right?

>

> Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

> absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>

 

Kind of like you?...LOL!

Frank

On the Bridge!652619 Wrote:

> Its crap, he is right..

>

> Sure there are some that have had no problems, but this OS is released

> to

> the world and should work on all kinds of comptuers.

>

> Dont think its a disaster? Google a bit. See what comes up...

> if you still dont agree that means you are biased.

 

 

Just to clarify on how accurate Google searches are, I done a quick

test. I used the search terms "Vista is great" and "Vista is rubbish".

The search was conducted both with and without quotes, which as any

googler knows, greatly affects the results returned.

 

Here is the results of my test:

 

*vista is great

*Results Returned : 15,300,000

 

*vista is rubbish*

Results Returned : 347,000

 

 

*"vista is great"*

Results Returned : 17,100

 

*"vista is rubbish"*

Results Returned : 5,520

 

 

I think the results speak for themselves:

 

Search conducted without quotes:

15,300,000 (Great) vs. 347,000 (Rubbish)

Winner! : Vista is great

 

Search conducted with quotes:

17,100 (Great) vs. 5,520 (Rubbish)

Winner! : Vista is great

 

Now how can you argue with results like that? But then again, I'm not a

"if it's on the internet, then it must be true" type, so I'll still

leave everyone to make their own judgments.

 

 

--

dzomlija

 

_____________________

Peter Alexander Dzomlija

-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as

you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

 

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in

http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290)

went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains

supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the

insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'

' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/)

Good to see someone else around here "gets it."

 

 

[/sarcasm]

 

 

"kurttrail" wrote:

> redrunner wrote:

>

> > Sir... "global consequences"? Seriously?

> >

> > All you post is a ridiculous amount of fluff, and ZERO facts, just like

> > the rest of the useless lazy trolls in here.

> >

> > Thanks for the laughs.

> >

>

> Well you certainly showed him how to not to use fluff, and how to use

> facts in your reply post!

>

> [/sarcasm]

>

> Now why don't you try to explain your own opinion on why Vista's impact

> isn't global?

>

> Or are you just a useless & lazy pro-MS troll like Frank?

>

> --

> Peace!

> Kurt

> Former Self-anointed Moderator

> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea

> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

>

>

Frank wrote:

> kurttrail wrote:

>> Rach wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>

>>

>> You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>

>> Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>> absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>

>>

> Kind of like you?...LOL!

> Frank

 

Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

 

But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

 

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

kurttrail wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>

>>kurttrail wrote:

>>

>>>Rach wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>>

>>>

>>>You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>>

>>>Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>>>absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>Kind of like you?...LOL!

>>Frank

>

>

> Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

>

> But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

> It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

>

 

hehehe...but I'm not the one desperately trying to make a complete fool

out of himself.

That would be you...LOL!

Frank

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message

news:epvZ4ZeiIHA.5188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> kurttrail wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>kurttrail wrote:

>>>

>>>>Rach wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>>>

>>>>Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>>>>absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>Kind of like you?...LOL!

>>>Frank

>>

>>

>> Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

>>

>> But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

>> It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

>>

>

> hehehe...but I'm not the one desperately trying to make a complete fool

> out of himself.

> That would be you...LOL!

> Frank

 

But you are the one succeeding in making a complete fool of himself.

I guess someone had to step up and cover for AlexB

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message

news:oRbEj.35152$V55.31690@fe75.usenetserver.com...

> Frank wrote:

>

>> kurttrail wrote:

>>> Rach wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>>

>>>

>>> You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>>

>>> Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>>> absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>>

>>>

>> Kind of like you?...LOL!

>> Frank

>

> Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

>

> But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

> It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

>

 

Clams don't talk back. Now go lay in the water and be quite

I get it

 

"redrunner" <redrunner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B4211F27-04EF-4537-87C1-D6B3FBF1B859@microsoft.com...

> Good to see someone else around here "gets it."

>

>

I "Get it" unless the wife is cranky!

"anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...

> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back

> or I

> want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game

> out.

> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to get

> all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody

> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.

 

You're going to need more than a little input winky.

"Blattus Slafaly ? ? ? ?" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message

news:47e10f0f$0$16667$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> anitamarm wrote:

>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back

>> or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this

>> game out. How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and

>> quips to get all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip

>> off. Anybody interested, I may need alittle input on writing this

>> petetion.

>

> Use Linux.

>

Now you did it

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message

news:47e10ee8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Its crap, he is right..

>

> Sure there are some that have had no problems, but this OS is released to

> the world

> and should work on all kinds of comptuers.

>

> Dont think its a disaster? Google a bit. See what comes up...

> if you still dont agree that means you are biased.

>

>

The only disasters are some of the idiots that can barely press a

power button. I'm assuming you're in that group?

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message

news:47e11004$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Nah, its you who need the classes, since you seem to not be able to grasp

> the big picture of how bad vista really is and the global consequences of

> such trash OS.

>

> The more you learn about vista, the more mistakes you see it has.

>

> Trying to pull that snobby "superiority complex" vista boy trick, just

> backfired flat in your face!!!!

>

> It shows how little you really know! LOL

>

>

Actually you're the one showing their massive stupidity. Go back to mommy's

room.

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in

> message news:oRbEj.35152$V55.31690@fe75.usenetserver.com...

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> kurttrail wrote:

>>>> Rach wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>>>

>>>> Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>>>> absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Kind of like you?...LOL!

>>> Frank

>>

>> Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

>>

>> But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

>> It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

>>

>>

> Clams don't talk back. Now go lay in the water and be quite

 

Quite what? Nevermind, I'll just continue being quite the charming

fellow that I am.

 

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"dzomlija" <dzomlija.36itv8@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message

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>

> anitamarm652603 Wrote:

>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back

>> or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this

>> game out. How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and

>> quips to get all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright

>> rip off. Anybody interested, I may need alittle input on writing this

>> petetion.

>

>

> Get a life - or better yet - do a search on Amazon for a "Vista for

> Dummies" book. You're sure to find what you want.

>

I think he's going to need more than that. I'm not sure he's smart

enough to be classified as a dummy.

sammy wrote:

> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message

> news:epvZ4ZeiIHA.5188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>kurttrail wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>kurttrail wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Rach wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Happy as a clam here.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>You do know why clams are happy, right?

>>>>>

>>>>>Because their brains only control automatic life processes, with

>>>>>absolutely no cognitive abilities at all.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Kind of like you?...LOL!

>>>>Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>Whatever floats your boat, Frank.

>>>

>>>But please, keep up you're mental patient laughing at your own jokes.

>>>It's getting to be just like bedpan815's, "Just FYI." "...LOL!"

>>>

>>

>>hehehe...but I'm not the one desperately trying to make a complete fool

>>out of himself.

>>That would be you...LOL!

>>Frank

>

>

> But you are the one succeeding in making a complete fool of himself.

> I guess someone had to step up and cover for AlexB

>

>

What's wrong sammy? AlexB whip your sorry loser ass...LOL!

Frank