Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Screen shots from test run attached to this and replies.

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Another screen shot. I would have attached them to the previous

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Another screenshot.

 

Will Pittenger wrote:

> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say

> that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>

> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return

> the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive

> (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation

> once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>

> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like

> that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive

> as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly

> recognize one?

>

> JS wrote:

> > Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

> > HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

> > http://www.hdtune.com/

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Last screenshot.

 

Will Pittenger wrote:

> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say

> that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>

> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return

> the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive

> (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation

> once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>

> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like

> that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive

> as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly

> recognize one?

>

> JS wrote:

> > Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

> > HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

> > http://www.hdtune.com/

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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>I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I downloaded.

>However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say that 48-bit LBA

>is supported.

>

> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return the

> drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive (the

> replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation once

> (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>

> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like that

> have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive as only

> 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly recognize

> one?

>

> JS wrote:

> > Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

> > HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

> > http://www.hdtune.com/

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> signatures)

 

 

Will:

It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably clear"!) that

when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS did *not* contain SP1

and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

 

Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137 GB

(roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1 and/or SP2 the

full capacity of the disk will be recognized however the remaining disk

space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered "unallocated space", i.e.,

disk space that you can partition/format using XP's Disk Management utility.

So at the minimum you have two partitions on the drive.

 

Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and judging

from your description it does.

Anna

 

P.S.

The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current backups of

your system.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>On 16 Mar 2008 02:25:07 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>

>> >On 15 Mar 2008 22:21:19 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>> >

>> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>> >>

>> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>> >> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the

>>partition >> >>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem

>>formating >>FAT32 >> >>partitions over that size.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will

>>not >> >>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by

>>design, >> >>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Accepted.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >> The bottom line is that with

>> >> >> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Correct.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >> It has no problem reading

>> >> >> a large FAT32 partition,

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Also correct.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

>> >> >> a large FAT32 partition properly.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at

>> >>all. >FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition

>> >>is over >32GB.

>> >>

>> >> Hi Ken,

>> >>

>> >> I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and

>>chose >> format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic

>>8.05 it >>will in fact try to format it.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >OK, you're talking about reformatting an already-existing FAT32

>> >partition. I was talking about creating the partition as FAT32.

>>

>> PartitionMagic 8.05 will partition without formatting and the same

>> holds true.

>

>

>

>Yes. My point, once again, is that Windows XP can not create a FAT32

>partition larger than 32GB.

>

>As I said earlier in this thread "There are many ways to create FAT32

>partitions larger than 32GB. You can even use FDISK from Windows 98

>no third-party program like Partition Magic is required. My point was

>only that Windows XP will not do it."

 

Since the original article by the OP mentions Partitionmagic, I see no

problem in including its possible usage as a part of reasoning behind

the statement I made. Again if I mis-lead the OP then I apologize. As

to the rest of this sub-thread, what might be more useful is to

determine the actual partition descriptor. With that information we

would know why he can't see a large FAT32 partition.

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it was

running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

 

C.Joseph S. Drayton wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

>> On 16 Mar 2008 02:25:07 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>> On 15 Mar 2008 22:21:19 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>>> <csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>>>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>>>>> <csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>>>>>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>>>>>>> <csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the

>>> partition >> >>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem

>>> formating >>FAT32 >> >>partitions over that size.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will

>>> not >> >>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by

>>> design, >> >>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

>>>>>>> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Accepted.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The bottom line is that with

>>>>>>> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Correct.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It has no problem reading

>>>>>>> a large FAT32 partition,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Also correct.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

>>>>>>> a large FAT32 partition properly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at

>>>>> all. >FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition

>>>>> is over >32GB.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hi Ken,

>>>>>

>>>>> I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and

>>> chose >> format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic

>>> 8.05 it >>will in fact try to format it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> OK, you're talking about reformatting an already-existing FAT32

>>>> partition. I was talking about creating the partition as FAT32.

>>> PartitionMagic 8.05 will partition without formatting and the same

>>> holds true.

>>

>>

>> Yes. My point, once again, is that Windows XP can not create a FAT32

>> partition larger than 32GB.

>>

>> As I said earlier in this thread "There are many ways to create FAT32

>> partitions larger than 32GB. You can even use FDISK from Windows 98

>> no third-party program like Partition Magic is required. My point was

>> only that Windows XP will not do it."

>

> Since the original article by the OP mentions Partitionmagic, I see no

> problem in including its possible usage as a part of reasoning behind

> the statement I made. Again if I mis-lead the OP then I apologize. As

> to the rest of this sub-thread, what might be more useful is to

> determine the actual partition descriptor. With that information we

> would know why he can't see a large FAT32 partition.

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon as

it would let me.

 

Anna wrote:

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I downloaded.

>> However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say that 48-bit LBA

>> is supported.

>>

>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return the

>> drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive (the

>> replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation once

>> (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>

>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like that

>> have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive as only

>> 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly recognize

>> one?

>>

>> JS wrote:

>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

>

> Will:

> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably clear"!) that

> when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS did *not* contain SP1

> and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>

> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137 GB

> (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1 and/or SP2 the

> full capacity of the disk will be recognized however the remaining disk

> space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered "unallocated space", i.e.,

> disk space that you can partition/format using XP's Disk Management utility.

> So at the minimum you have two partitions on the drive.

>

> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and judging

> from your description it does.

> Anna

>

> P.S.

> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current backups of

> your system.

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2 using

a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

 

That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the update

stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get an

integrated XP SP3 cd.

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon as it

> would let me.

>

> Anna wrote:

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say

>>> that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>

>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return

>>> the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive

>>> (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation

>>> once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>

>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like

>>> that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive

>>> as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly

>>> recognize one?

>>>

>>> JS wrote:

>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>>

>> Will:

>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably clear"!)

>> that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS did *not*

>> contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>

>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137 GB

>> (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1 and/or SP2

>> the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however the remaining

>> disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered "unallocated space",

>> i.e., disk space that you can partition/format using XP's Disk Management

>> utility. So at the minimum you have two partitions on the drive.

>>

>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>> judging from your description it does.

>> Anna

>>

>> P.S.

>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current backups

>> of your system.

>

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

<no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

> Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it was

> running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

 

 

You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

 

1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

(or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

 

2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

 

You apparently are missing at least one of these.

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

I think we have already ruled both out. I know that SP2 is installed.

I also know the BIOS supports 48-LBA.

 

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

> <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>

>> Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it was

>> running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

>

>

> You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

>

> 1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

> (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

>

> 2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

>

> You apparently are missing at least one of these.

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

prefer a way to keep it.

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>

>

> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>> as it would let me.

>>

>> Anna wrote:

>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>

>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>

>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>

>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>> --

>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>> signatures)

>>>

>>>

>>> Will:

>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>

>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>

>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>> judging from your description it does.

>>> Anna

>>>

>>> P.S.

>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>> backups of your system.

>>

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way, or

resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which is

what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have at

least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

 

Will Pittenger wrote:

> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

> prefer a way to keep it.

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>

>>

>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>> as it would let me.

>>>

>>> Anna wrote:

>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>

>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>

>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>

>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>> --

>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>> signatures)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Will:

>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>

>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>

>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>> Anna

>>>>

>>>> P.S.

>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>> backups of your system.

>>>

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>

> --

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> signatures)

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

Will Pittenger wrote:

>I think we have already ruled both out. I know that SP2 is

>installed. I also know the BIOS supports 48-LBA.

>

>Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

>><no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>>

>>>Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it

>>>was running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

>>

>>

>>You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

>>

>>1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

>>(or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

>>

>>2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

>>

>>You apparently are missing at least one of these.

>>

 

Hi Will what type of drive are we talking about? SCSI, PATA, SATA?

 

When you go into the BIOS, does the BIOS identify it properly? If it

does and it is PATA, is legacy support for the IDE channel turned on?

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Actually, I already have 4 partitions on that drive. The problem

happens if ANY of those partitions extend past 137 GB.

 

Bill in Co. wrote:

> When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

> unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way, or

> resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which is

> what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have at

> least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

>

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>>

>>>

>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

>>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>

>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>>> as it would let me.

>>>>

>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>

>>>>> Will:

>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>

>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>>> Anna

>>>>>

>>>>> P.S.

>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>> --

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>>>> signatures)

>> --

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>> signatures)

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

PATA. Hooked up via a Promise Ultra ATA/100 card.

 

C.Joseph S. Drayton wrote:

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>

>> I think we have already ruled both out. I know that SP2 is

>> installed. I also know the BIOS supports 48-LBA.

>>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

>>> <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it

>>>> was running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

>>>

>>> You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

>>>

>>> 1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

>>> (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

>>>

>>> 2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

>>>

>>> You apparently are missing at least one of these.

>>>

>

> Hi Will what type of drive are we talking about? SCSI, PATA, SATA?

>

> When you go into the BIOS, does the BIOS identify it properly? If it

> does and it is PATA, is legacy support for the IDE channel turned on?

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

I didn't say anything about partitions. I said you should make a new cd

that saves you from having to download and install SP2 again by combining

your XP SP1 cd and SP2 into an integrated cd that you can use whenever you

need an XP cd.

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

news:u58uFL7hIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

> prefer a way to keep it.

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon as

>>> it would let me.

>>>

>>> Anna wrote:

>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say

>>>>> that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>

>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return

>>>>> the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this

>>>>> drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from

>>>>> hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>

>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like

>>>>> that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this

>>>>> drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't

>>>>> properly recognize one?

>>>>>

>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>> --

>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>> signatures)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Will:

>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably clear"!)

>>>> that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS did *not*

>>>> contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>

>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137 GB

>>>> (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1 and/or SP2

>>>> the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however the remaining

>>>> disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered "unallocated

>>>> space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format using XP's Disk

>>>> Management utility. So at the minimum you have two partitions on the

>>>> drive.

>>>>

>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>> Anna

>>>>

>>>> P.S.

>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>> backups of your system.

>>>

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>

> --

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> signatures)

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Have you installed SP2 yet? Or you could use Partition Magic.

 

Will Pittenger wrote:

> Actually, I already have 4 partitions on that drive. The problem

> happens if ANY of those partitions extend past 137 GB.

>

> Bill in Co. wrote:

>> When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

>> unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way,

>> or

>> resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which

>> is

>> what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have

>> at

>> least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

>>

>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>>

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>>>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to

>>>> get

>>>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>>

>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>>>> as it would let me.

>>>>>

>>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Will:

>>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>

>>>>>> P.S.

>>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>>> --

>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>> signatures)

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>>

>

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

I didn't say you did. But I have a working Windows partition now (aside

from it not accepting partitions above 137 GB) and I don't care to start

by reinstalling Windows from scratch -- even if I can start with SP2

preinstalled.

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> I didn't say anything about partitions. I said you should make a new cd

> that saves you from having to download and install SP2 again by

> combining your XP SP1 cd and SP2 into an integrated cd that you can use

> whenever you need an XP cd.

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:u58uFL7hIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and

>>> SP2 using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and

>>> SP2 from

>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to

>>> get an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>

>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new

>>>> Windows install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement

>>>> drive) arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2

>>>> as soon as it would let me.

>>>>

>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When

>>>>>> my previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it

>>>>>> with this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to

>>>>>> wake up from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Will:

>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>

>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity >

>>>>> 137 GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks

>>>>> and judging from your description it does.

>>>>> Anna

>>>>>

>>>>> P.S.

>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>> signatures)

>>>

>>

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

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>> signatures)

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Yes, SP2 is INSTALLED. I have stated that many times. I have also

stated that PartitionMagic causes all of Windows to crash. Even when

that did not happen, PM insisted the drive was just 137 GB. The floppy

version of Partiton Magic gives Error #114. The CD complains about some

internal error and dumps me at a Y: DOS prompt.

 

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Have you installed SP2 yet? Or you could use Partition Magic.

>

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>> Actually, I already have 4 partitions on that drive. The problem

>> happens if ANY of those partitions extend past 137 GB.

>>

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

>>> unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way,

>>> or

>>> resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which

>>> is

>>> what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have

>>> at

>>> least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

>>>

>>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>>>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>>>

>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>>>>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to

>>>>> get

>>>>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>>>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>>>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>>>>> as it would let me.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>>> Will:

>>>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> P.S.

>>>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>> signatures)

>>>> --

>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>> signatures)

>>>

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>

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

You state that your Windows XP CD incorporates SP1, which means that

Windows setup should be able to access past 137GB on the 250GB disk.

This means that when you created the second partition during Windows

setup, the extended partition that was created at that point should

have begun at the end of the primary partition and ended at 250GB. If

the extended partition stops at 137GB, then the XP CD does not contain

SP1.

 

Did you create the partitions during Windows setup, or did you use

some other program?

 

 

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:02:55 -0500, Will Pittenger

<no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>Actually, I already have 4 partitions on that drive. The problem

>happens if ANY of those partitions extend past 137 GB.

>

>Bill in Co. wrote:

>> When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

>> unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way, or

>> resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which is

>> what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have at

>> least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

>>

>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>>

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>>>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

>>>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>>

>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>>>> as it would let me.

>>>>>

>>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Will:

>>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>

>>>>>> P.S.

>>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>>> --

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

Latest Promise drivers/bios installed?

My Promise card required a BIOS update before it would support Large Drives.

See:

http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=18&category=bios&os=0&go=GO

 

JS

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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> PATA. Hooked up via a Promise Ultra ATA/100 card.

>

> C.Joseph S. Drayton wrote:

>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>

>>> I think we have already ruled both out. I know that SP2 is

>>> installed. I also know the BIOS supports 48-LBA.

>>>

>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

>>>> <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it

>>>>> was running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

>>>>

>>>> You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

>>>>

>>>> 1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

>>>> (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

>>>>

>>>> 2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

>>>>

>>>> You apparently are missing at least one of these.

>>>>

>>

>> Hi Will what type of drive are we talking about? SCSI, PATA, SATA?

>>

>> When you go into the BIOS, does the BIOS identify it properly? If it

>> does and it is PATA, is legacy support for the IDE channel turned on?

>>

>

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Either GParted or Partition Magic created all but the boot drive. I

know the Windows CD is SP1. It states so on the disc.

 

Andy wrote:

> You state that your Windows XP CD incorporates SP1, which means that

> Windows setup should be able to access past 137GB on the 250GB disk.

> This means that when you created the second partition during Windows

> setup, the extended partition that was created at that point should

> have begun at the end of the primary partition and ended at 250GB. If

> the extended partition stops at 137GB, then the XP CD does not contain

> SP1.

>

> Did you create the partitions during Windows setup, or did you use

> some other program?

>

>

> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:02:55 -0500, Will Pittenger

> <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>

>> Actually, I already have 4 partitions on that drive. The problem

>> happens if ANY of those partitions extend past 137 GB.

>>

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> When you install SP2, and get to be able to see the whole drive with the

>>> unpartioned remainder disk space, you can either just keep it that way, or

>>> resize it to max, OR create and format a second partition in there, which is

>>> what I would do. Your call. Personally, I find it convenient to have at

>>> least two partitions (and even more, frankly).

>>>

>>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>>> Are you saying I should toss my existing Windows partition? I would

>>>> prefer a way to keep it.

>>>>

>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>> Now make a new XP (slipstreamed) cd integrating your XP SP1 cd and SP2

>>>>> using a program like nLite, http://www.nliteos.com/guide/, and SP2 from

>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> That way you can install XP SP2 directly and not have go through the

>>>>> update stuff again. When SP3 releases you can repeat the process to get

>>>>> an integrated XP SP3 cd.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OMaW234hIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Well, my Windows CD is SP1. I was forced to start with a new Windows

>>>>>> install when the previous drive (also a warranty replacement drive)

>>>>>> arrived. Once installed, I had Microsoft Update install SP2 as soon

>>>>>> as it would let me.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anna wrote:

>>>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

>>>>>>>> downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does

>>>>>>>> say that 48-bit LBA is supported.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>>>>>>>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to

>>>>>>>> return the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with

>>>>>>>> this drive (the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up

>>>>>>>> from hibernation once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things

>>>>>>>> like that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees

>>>>>>>> this drive as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but

>>>>>>>> can't properly recognize one?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> JS wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>>>>>>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>>>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>>> Will:

>>>>>>> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably

>>>>>>> clear"!) that when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS

>>>>>>> did *not* contain SP1 and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137

>>>>>>> GB (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1

>>>>>>> and/or SP2 the full capacity of the disk will be recognized however

>>>>>>> the remaining disk space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered

>>>>>>> "unallocated space", i.e., disk space that you can partition/format

>>>>>>> using XP's Disk Management utility. So at the minimum you have two

>>>>>>> partitions on the drive.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and

>>>>>>> judging from your description it does.

>>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> P.S.

>>>>>>> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current

>>>>>>> backups of your system.

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>> signatures)

>>>> --

>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

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>>>> signatures)

>>>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

I suspect so. The BIOS you mentioned was dated 2002. This system was

built in 2003.

 

JS wrote:

> Latest Promise drivers/bios installed?

> My Promise card required a BIOS update before it would support Large Drives.

> See:

> http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=18&category=bios&os=0&go=GO

>

> JS

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:e%23eOzm7hIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> PATA. Hooked up via a Promise Ultra ATA/100 card.

>>

>> C.Joseph S. Drayton wrote:

>>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>>

>>>> I think we have already ruled both out. I know that SP2 is

>>>> installed. I also know the BIOS supports 48-LBA.

>>>>

>>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:51:30 -0500, Will Pittenger

>>>>> <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Actually, I wrote that Partition Magic doesn't run -- and when it

>>>>>> was running, it also said the drive was only 137 GB.

>>>>> You need two things to support a drive over 137GB:

>>>>>

>>>>> 1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA

>>>>> (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

>>>>>

>>>>> 2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> You apparently are missing at least one of these.

>>>>>

>>> Hi Will what type of drive are we talking about? SCSI, PATA, SATA?

>>>

>>> When you go into the BIOS, does the BIOS identify it properly? If it

>>> does and it is PATA, is legacy support for the IDE channel turned on?

>>>

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

So do I have any options other than to start with a brand new Windows

install? That would be a pain.

 

Anna wrote:

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:%23ta$3hxhIHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I downloaded.

>> However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say that 48-bit LBA

>> is supported.

>>

>> I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

>> previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return the

>> drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive (the

>> replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation once

>> (cause unknown as I was asleep).

>>

>> However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like that

>> have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive as only

>> 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly recognize

>> one?

>>

>> JS wrote:

>>> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

>>> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

>>> http://www.hdtune.com/

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

>

> Will:

> It seems reasonably clear (I least I *think* it's "reasonably clear"!) that

> when you installed your large-capacity HDD your XP OS did *not* contain SP1

> and/or SP2. Would I be correct about that?

>

> Should that be the case the OS will *not* detect disk-capacity > 137 GB

> (roughly 128 GB binary). Should you subsequently install SP1 and/or SP2 the

> full capacity of the disk will be recognized however the remaining disk

> space > the 137 GB (128 GB) will be considered "unallocated space", i.e.,

> disk space that you can partition/format using XP's Disk Management utility.

> So at the minimum you have two partitions on the drive.

>

> Obviously we're assuming your BIOS supports large-capacity disks and judging

> from your description it does.

> Anna

>

> P.S.

> The "chirping" is another story. Just ensure you maintain current backups of

> your system.

>

>

 

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