Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

 

JS

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>

> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related. The

> installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash appears.

> The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the 250 GB

> drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and leaving me

> with a Y: DOS prompt.

> --

> will 68 at mtco dot com

> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

> signatures)

Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

 

I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

--

will 68 at mtco dot com

will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

signatures)

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

I'm thinking the same thing. BIOS might need an update (if there's any).

 

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:eDLySsihIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>

> JS

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>

>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

>> 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

>> leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

>

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

Based on what I saw in GParted and Linux (which didn't care), yes.

 

JS wrote:

> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>

> JS

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>

>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>

>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related. The

>> installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash appears.

>> The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the 250 GB

>> drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and leaving me

>> with a Y: DOS prompt.

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>>

>

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Can you use Windows 'Disk Management' to create a second partition from the

unused space?

 

JS

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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> Based on what I saw in GParted and Linux (which didn't care), yes.

>

> JS wrote:

>> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>>

>> JS

>>

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>>

>>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

>>> 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

>>> leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>>

>>

>

> --

> will 68 at mtco dot com

> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

> signatures)

Will Pittenger wrote:

>Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

>addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120

>GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot

>splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to

>fix it? I would like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>

>I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for

>the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code

>and leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

 

Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32 partitions

over that size.

 

--

 

Sincerely,

C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

 

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/

E-mail: csdcs@tlerma.com

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

I am certain that NTFS was used. Please try again.

 

C.Joseph S. Drayton wrote:

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>

>

>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

>> addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120

>> GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot

>> splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to

>> fix it? I would like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>

>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for

>> the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code

>> and leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>

>

> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32 partitions

> over that size.

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

How do I check for out of date BIOSes? I have a Intel 845 chipset.

Intel motherboard, but I don't know the model.

 

John wrote:

> I'm thinking the same thing. BIOS might need an update (if there's any).

>

> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:eDLySsihIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>>

>> JS

>>

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>>

>>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

>>> 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

>>> leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>>

>>

>

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Will Pittenger <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote:

>How do I check for out of date BIOSes? I have a Intel 845 chipset.

>Intel motherboard, but I don't know the model.

 

run the Belarc Advisor (google it) to get the motherboard make/model

no.

On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

wrote:

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>

> >Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

> >addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120

> >GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot

> >splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to

> >fix it? I would like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

> >

> >I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

> >The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

> >appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for

> >the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code

> >and leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>

> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32 partitions

> over that size.

 

 

 

Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not create

a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design, rather than its

having a problem doing so.

 

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The "problem" is that FAT32 uses a fixed number of clusters. As the size of

the partition increases so does the cluster size. Eventually you get a

situation where a 2k dll takes up a 64k cluster. In other words, partitions

above 32GB become extremely inefficient. It is not a formatting problem, it

is a format problem. The FAT32 format is simply not designed to use large

partitions efficiently. That isn't the only reason to use NTFS instead, but

it is a compelling one.

 

"C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com> wrote in message

news:xn0fnopdd8f30y001@news.sunsite.dk...

> Will Pittenger wrote:

>

>>Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

>>addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120

>>GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot

>>splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to

>>fix it? I would like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>

>>I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for

>>the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code

>>and leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>

> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32 partitions

> over that size.

>

> --

>

> Sincerely,

> C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

>

> CSD Computer Services

> Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/

> E-mail: csdcs@tlerma.com

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>wrote:

>

>> Will Pittenger wrote:

>>

>> >Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

>> >addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past

>>120 >GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the

>>animated boot >splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is

>>wrong and how to >fix it? I would like to use the extra disk

>>space that I now have. >

>> >I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be

>>related. >The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly

>>after the splash >appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then

>>displays Error #114 for >the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot

>>issuing some internal error code >and leaving me with a Y: DOS

>>prompt.

>> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

>> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32

>>partitions over that size.

>

>

>

>Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not create

>a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design, rather than its

>having a problem doing so.

 

If it was mis-leading my apologies. The bottom line is that with

WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so. It has no problem reading

a large FAT32 partition, but as far as I have seen, it does not format

a large FAT32 partition properly. Even when you do an initial install,

it will let you say 150GB partition, and will 'supposedly' format it as

FAT32. It will even 'install' the OS, but when you go to boot it won't.

 

Note also that PartitionMagic will allow you to specify the partition

type. So that if you set it as FAT32 and then format as NTFS, you can

get file corruption.

 

I use PartitionMagic v8.05 occassionally, and I have seen that there is

a couple of things that it does that some might consider 'non-standard'.

 

--

 

Sincerely,

C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

 

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/

E-mail: csdcs@tlerma.com

On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

> >wrote:

> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

> >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32

> >>partitions over that size.

> >

> >

> >

> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not create

> >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design, rather than its

> >having a problem doing so.

>

> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

 

 

Accepted.

 

> The bottom line is that with

> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

 

 

Correct.

 

> It has no problem reading

> a large FAT32 partition,

 

 

 

Also correct.

 

> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

> a large FAT32 partition properly.

 

 

But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over

32GB.

 

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

From: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=339067

"All members of the 845 chipset family support the Intel Application

Accelerator (IAA), a driver which provides faster disk I/O, quicker boot

times, 48-bit LBA (over 137GB) hard disks, automatic selection of fastest

DMA transfer rates for ATA devices, and other benefits. Specific versions of

the Intel Application Accelerator vary according to whether you use Windows

XP or other Windows versions. See the Intel Application Accelerator Web site

for details and to download the latest version of the IAA for your version

of Windows: http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/index.htm"

I have used the "Intel Application Accelerator" on a PC that uses the 815

chipset but not on the 845. It look like you will need to install it to get

Large Hard Drive support

 

JS

 

 

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

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> How do I check for out of date BIOSes? I have a Intel 845 chipset. Intel

> motherboard, but I don't know the model.

>

> John wrote:

>> I'm thinking the same thing. BIOS might need an update (if there's any).

>>

>> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:eDLySsihIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>>>

>>> JS

>>>

>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>>>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>>>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>>>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>>>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>>>

>>>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

>>>> 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

>>>> leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>>> --

>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>> signatures)

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>

> --

> will 68 at mtco dot com

> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

> signatures)

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

> wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>

>>> On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>>> wrote:

>

>>>> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition FAT32

>>>> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32

>>>> partitions over that size.

>>>

>>> Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not create

>>> a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design, rather than its

>>> having a problem doing so.

>>

>> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

>

> Accepted

>

>> The bottom line is that with WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

>

> Correct.

>

>> It has no problem reading a large FAT32 partition,

>

> Also correct.

>

>> but as far as I have seen, it does not format a large FAT32 partition

>> properly.

>

> But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

> FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over 32GB.

 

But he can do it with Partition Magic, if he really wants.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:28:47 -0600, "Bill in Co."

<not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> > On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

> > wrote:

> >> but as far as I have seen, it does not format a large FAT32 partition

> >> properly.

> >

> > But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

> > FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over 32GB.

>

> But he can do it with Partition Magic, if he really wants.

 

 

 

Sure. There are many ways to create FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB.

You can even use FDISK from Windows 98 no third-party program like

Partition Magic is required. My point was only that Windows XP will

not do it.

 

By the way, I recommend that NTFS be used in preference to FAT32. The

only good reason for using FAT32 under Windows XP is if you are dual

-booting with an operating system that is not NTFS-aware.

 

 

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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:28:47 -0600, "Bill in Co."

> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

>>> On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>>> wrote:

>

>>>> but as far as I have seen, it does not format a large FAT32 partition

>>>> properly.

>>>

>>> But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

>>> FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over 32GB.

>>

>> But he can do it with Partition Magic, if he really wants.

>

>

>

> Sure. There are many ways to create FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB.

> You can even use FDISK from Windows 98 no third-party program like

> Partition Magic is required. My point was only that Windows XP will

> not do it.

>

> By the way, I recommend that NTFS be used in preference to FAT32. The

> only good reason for using FAT32 under Windows XP is if you are dual

> -booting with an operating system that is not NTFS-aware.

 

Right.

 

I think all the "journaling" of NTFS adds some overhead and slight delays,

but the advantages of NTFS do (I have to concede) seem pretty great (like I

haven't seen many BSODs yet, if any).

 

And, of course, the more efficient use of clusters and the hard disk space,

and the elimination of the maximum 4 GB file size under FAT 32.

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GBdrive

 

I use NTFS mainly for the security issues. I don't like leaving my

private information publicly available if I ever have someone work on my

machine.

 

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:28:47 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>>> On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>> but as far as I have seen, it does not format a large FAT32 partition

>>>>> properly.

>>>> But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

>>>> FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over 32GB.

>>> But he can do it with Partition Magic, if he really wants.

>>

>>

>> Sure. There are many ways to create FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB.

>> You can even use FDISK from Windows 98 no third-party program like

>> Partition Magic is required. My point was only that Windows XP will

>> not do it.

>>

>> By the way, I recommend that NTFS be used in preference to FAT32. The

>> only good reason for using FAT32 under Windows XP is if you are dual

>> -booting with an operating system that is not NTFS-aware.

>

> Right.

>

> I think all the "journaling" of NTFS adds some overhead and slight delays,

> but the advantages of NTFS do (I have to concede) seem pretty great (like I

> haven't seen many BSODs yet, if any).

>

> And, of course, the more efficient use of clusters and the hard disk space,

> and the elimination of the maximum 4 GB file size under FAT 32.

>

>

 

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Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

IAA is already installed. In fact, I just downloaded the lastest

version in January. Try again.

 

JS wrote:

> From: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=339067

> "All members of the 845 chipset family support the Intel Application

> Accelerator (IAA), a driver which provides faster disk I/O, quicker boot

> times, 48-bit LBA (over 137GB) hard disks, automatic selection of fastest

> DMA transfer rates for ATA devices, and other benefits. Specific versions of

> the Intel Application Accelerator vary according to whether you use Windows

> XP or other Windows versions. See the Intel Application Accelerator Web site

> for details and to download the latest version of the IAA for your version

> of Windows: http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/index.htm"

> I have used the "Intel Application Accelerator" on a PC that uses the 815

> chipset but not on the 845. It look like you will need to install it to get

> Large Hard Drive support

>

> JS

>

>

>

> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

> news:OvQy9UlhIHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> How do I check for out of date BIOSes? I have a Intel 845 chipset. Intel

>> motherboard, but I don't know the model.

>>

>> John wrote:

>>> I'm thinking the same thing. BIOS might need an update (if there's any).

>>>

>>> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:eDLySsihIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>>>>

>>>> JS

>>>>

>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA addressing.

>>>>> However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120 GB, Windows

>>>>> refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot splash screen

>>>>> forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to fix it? I would

>>>>> like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>>>>

>>>>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>>>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>>>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for the

>>>>> 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code and

>>>>> leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>>>> --

>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>> --

>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>> signatures)

>

>

 

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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>

>> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>

>> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition

>>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32

>> >>partitions over that size.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not

>>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design,

>>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

>>

>> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

>

>

>Accepted.

>

>

>> The bottom line is that with

>> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

>

>

>Correct.

>

>

>> It has no problem reading

>> a large FAT32 partition,

>

>

>

>Also correct.

>

>

>> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

>> a large FAT32 partition properly.

>

>

>But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

>FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over

>32GB.

 

Hi Ken,

 

I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and chose

format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic 8.05 it will in

fact try to format it.

 

--

 

Sincerely,

C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

 

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/

E-mail: csdcs@tlerma.com

On 15 Mar 2008 22:21:19 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

> >On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

> >wrote:

> >

> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> >>

> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

> >

> >> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition

> >>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating FAT32

> >> >>partitions over that size.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not

> >>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design,

> >>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

> >>

> >> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

> >

> >

> >Accepted.

> >

> >

> >> The bottom line is that with

> >> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

> >

> >

> >Correct.

> >

> >

> >> It has no problem reading

> >> a large FAT32 partition,

> >

> >

> >

> >Also correct.

> >

> >

> >> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

> >> a large FAT32 partition properly.

> >

> >

> >But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at all.

> >FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition is over

> >32GB.

>

> Hi Ken,

>

> I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and chose

> format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic 8.05 it will in

> fact try to format it.

 

 

 

OK, you're talking about reformatting an already-existing FAT32

partition. I was talking about creating the partition as FAT32.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250 GB drive

 

Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

http://www.hdtune.com/

 

JS

 

"Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

news:utkcbfuhIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> IAA is already installed. In fact, I just downloaded the lastest version

> in January. Try again.

>

> JS wrote:

>> From: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=339067

>> "All members of the 845 chipset family support the Intel Application

>> Accelerator (IAA), a driver which provides faster disk I/O, quicker boot

>> times, 48-bit LBA (over 137GB) hard disks, automatic selection of fastest

>> DMA transfer rates for ATA devices, and other benefits. Specific versions

>> of the Intel Application Accelerator vary according to whether you use

>> Windows XP or other Windows versions. See the Intel Application

>> Accelerator Web site for details and to download the latest version of

>> the IAA for your version of Windows:

>> http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/index.htm"

>> I have used the "Intel Application Accelerator" on a PC that uses the 815

>> chipset but not on the 845. It look like you will need to install it to

>> get Large Hard Drive support

>>

>> JS

>>

>>

>>

>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>> news:OvQy9UlhIHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> How do I check for out of date BIOSes? I have a Intel 845 chipset.

>>> Intel motherboard, but I don't know the model.

>>>

>>> John wrote:

>>>> I'm thinking the same thing. BIOS might need an update (if there's

>>>> any).

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:eDLySsihIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Does your BIOS support 48Bit LBA?

>>>>>

>>>>> JS

>>>>>

>>>>> "Will Pittenger" <no-spam@see.my.sig> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uzcAzqihIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Supposedly, XP SP2 (which is installed) supports 48-bit LBA

>>>>>> addressing. However, when I attempt to extend any partition past 120

>>>>>> GB, Windows refuses to boot. It just sits there at the animated boot

>>>>>> splash screen forever. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how to

>>>>>> fix it? I would like to use the extra disk space that I now have.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am also having problem with PartitionMagic 8 that might be related.

>>>>>> The installed version crashes all of Windows shortly after the splash

>>>>>> appears. The rescue floppy boots, but then displays Error #114 for

>>>>>> the 250 GB drive. The CD won't boot issuing some internal error code

>>>>>> and leaving me with a Y: DOS prompt.

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>>>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>>>>> signatures)

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> will 68 at mtco dot com

>>> will dot pittenger1 at gmail dot com (use this address for large

>>> signatures)

>>

>>

>

> --

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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>On 15 Mar 2008 22:21:19 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

>wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>

>> >On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>> >

>> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>> >>

>> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

>> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

>> >

>> >> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition

>> >>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating

>>FAT32 >> >>partitions over that size.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not

>> >>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design,

>> >>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

>> >>

>> >> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

>> >

>> >

>> >Accepted.

>> >

>> >

>> >> The bottom line is that with

>> >> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

>> >

>> >

>> >Correct.

>> >

>> >

>> >> It has no problem reading

>> >> a large FAT32 partition,

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Also correct.

>> >

>> >

>> >> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

>> >> a large FAT32 partition properly.

>> >

>> >

>> >But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at

>>all. >FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition

>>is over >32GB.

>>

>> Hi Ken,

>>

>> I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and chose

>> format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic 8.05 it

>>will in fact try to format it.

>

>

>

>OK, you're talking about reformatting an already-existing FAT32

>partition. I was talking about creating the partition as FAT32.

 

PartitionMagic 8.05 will partition without formatting and the same

holds true.

 

--

 

Sincerely,

C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

 

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/

E-mail: csdcs@tlerma.com

On 16 Mar 2008 02:25:07 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

> >On 15 Mar 2008 22:21:19 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@tlerma.com>

> >wrote:

> >

> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> >>

> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 15:59:43 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> >On 15 Mar 2008 03:11:37 GMT, "C.Joseph S. Drayton"

> >> >><csdcs@tlerma.com> >wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> >> Off the top of my head it sounds like you made the partition

> >> >>FAT32 >> rather than NTFS. WindowsXP has a problem formating

> >>FAT32 >> >>partitions over that size.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Well, that's a rather misleading statement. Windows XP will not

> >> >>create >a FAT32 volume larger than 32GB. But that's by design,

> >> >>rather than its >having a problem doing so.

> >> >>

> >> >> If it was mis-leading my apologies.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Accepted.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >> The bottom line is that with

> >> >> WindowsXP's built-in tools it can not do so.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Correct.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >> It has no problem reading

> >> >> a large FAT32 partition,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Also correct.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >> but as far as I have seen, it does not format

> >> >> a large FAT32 partition properly.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >But it's not a matter of doing it "properly." It won't do it at

> >>all. >FAT32 won't even be offered as an option if the partition

> >>is over >32GB.

> >>

> >> Hi Ken,

> >>

> >> I use WindowsXPpe[sp2], and if I right-click on the drive and chose

> >> format to a partition made as FAT32 with PartitionMagic 8.05 it

> >>will in fact try to format it.

> >

> >

> >

> >OK, you're talking about reformatting an already-existing FAT32

> >partition. I was talking about creating the partition as FAT32.

>

> PartitionMagic 8.05 will partition without formatting and the same

> holds true.

 

 

 

Yes. My point, once again, is that Windows XP can *not* create a FAT32

partition larger than 32GB.

 

As I said earlier in this thread "There are many ways to create FAT32

partitions larger than 32GB. You can even use FDISK from Windows 98

no third-party program like Partition Magic is required. My point was

only that Windows XP will not do it."

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: Windows won't boot if any partition extends past 120 GB on 250GB drive

 

I already knew 48-LBA was supported thanks to another program I

downloaded. However, I did download yours. It was nicer. It does say

that 48-bit LBA is supported.

 

I should note that the drive in question has been chirping. When my

previous drive did that, someone at http://hddguru.com said to return

the drive. I did that. So far, I have only noticed it with this drive

(the replacement) once with Windows failing to wake up from hibernation

once (cause unknown as I was asleep).

 

However, neither of the programs that I have run to check things like

that have had a problem. Please note that your program sees this drive

as only 137 GB. It knows about 48-bit LBA drives but can't properly

recognize one?

 

JS wrote:

> Verify if HD Tune indicates your drive supports 48Bit LBA.

> HD Tune, provides drive info and has an option to test your drive.

> http://www.hdtune.com/

--

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