Vista; Step back in Time

March 9, 200817 yr

In article <u$7$s4hgIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>It runs 24/7/52 and has NEVER crashed.

>>

>> What about the other 313?

>>

>Steve's numbers include all earth days within a year.. add a further 313?

24/7/52 would be 24 hours a day 7 days a week 52 days a year. 14%

uptime isn't much of an SLA.

Most places proud of their uptime claim 24/7/365. So I was wondering

what Steve did with the other 313 days. Scheduled maintenance? Or a lot

of holidays?

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March 9, 200817 yr

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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>>>

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in

>>>>> message news:6692D94E-AA28-411D-A8A1-AEFCBAFA1C8A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:fqufaq027f0@news1.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Since I have the spud KF'd, I'll hit on some of his issues since

>>>>>> you quoted him. I like Mandrake/Mandriva and have used the apps

>>>>>> he quotes. Response in line, with extraneous BS snipped. Again,

>>>>>> this post is by no means to you Mike.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> And of 25000 free programs, the best you could find was AbiWord..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Nope, wrong again ... no banana. Just a few off the top of my

>>>>>>>> head ...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Amarok - the very best music player/collection organizer

>>>>>>>> available on any

>>>>>>>> system, bar none.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sorry. Winamp, QCD, and even SAM broadcaster blow this one away.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> K3B - far better than Nero.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sorry. Not even close to the functionality and power of Nero.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Samba - does Windoze networking better than Windoze

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sorry, it's good, but not THAT good. There are still problems.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> mysql - leader in databases for the desktop

>>>>>>

>>>>>> There are versions of mysql for Windows. This is about what kick

>>>>>> ass programs are available for Linux. Try not to overlap.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> apache - THE webserver of the Internet

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Which dropped market share from 71% to 52.6% against IIS. It is no

>>>>>> longer THE webserver, and it is dropping steadily.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> gimp - most advanced FREE image editor around

>>>>>>

>>>>>> While I like Gimp, FREE is the key word. You get what you pay for.

>>>>>> Still doesn't touch Photoshop or PSP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Pidgin - best and most universal IM client out there

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Way wrong. Trillian has this beat hands down.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Konversation - great IRC client with many great features

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Not even close to mIRC, Chatzilla, or XChat for Windows.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Knode - my preferred newsreader

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You ARE kidding right? Firefox, Opera, Netscape, and even IE blow

>>>>>> this kludgy piece of crap away.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Evolution - a very nice mail client, along with other great

>>>>>>>> features.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Love Evolution, but still doesn't come close to Outlook.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Gnome - configurable beautiful desktop

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This is not a program, it is a desktop environment (shell) like

>>>>>> Explorer. This is the one I used for my desktop, but still not an

>>>>>> application which is what this is all about

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Compiz - the very best, least resource intensive 3d desktop

>>>>>>>> available which

>>>>>>>> leaves Aero and OSX in its dust.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Woohoo it's a cube. Again, this is NOT a program, it is an OpenGL

>>>>>> compositing and windows manger. Just sits on top of Gnome, KDE,

>>>>>> etc. In fact you are wasting resources because this has to ride on

>>>>>> top of the shell, instead of being integrated.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Nautilus - great filemanager with scripts to extend it in

>>>>>>>> incredible ways

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Has to be one one of the worst file managers in existence. At

>>>>>> best, an explorer clone.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> VLC - play any DVD and don't worry about encryption and regions

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You're overlapping again. There is a Windows version of this.

>>>>>> Stick with Linux only software.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The list goes on and on, and these apps don't cost a penny.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And that is because for the most part, they are not equivalent to

>>>>>> a comparable Windows program. Again, you get what you pay for.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You know, you shouldn't embarrass yourself like this, because

>>>>>> there are those of us that know both systems, and can prove you

>>>>>> wrong. Unlike you zealots however, I could care less what

>>>>>> operating system you use. If Linux does it for you, great. As long

>>>>>> as you can do the stuff you need to do. Should I go into c.o.l.a.

>>>>>> and telling them that is crap, and they need to switch to Vista?

>>>>>> What you smacktards lack though is respect for people's decision

>>>>>> to use what they want. You and your ilk are a smacktards not

>>>>>> because you use Linux or whatever, but because you are just like

>>>>>> any other loony group of zealots. You get treated like a bunch of

>>>>>> retards. You guys could be so beneficial to the support group of

>>>>>> your chosen OS, so why you all choose to continue to act like

>>>>>> imbeciles is very puzzling. Just once you might want to try being

>>>>>> unbiased. You might find that you like it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.

>>>>>> http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel

>>>>>> Undo the munge to reply by email

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> A nicely written piece.. way to go..

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Three big differences between Windows and Ubuntu: stability, price

>>>> and being prone or not prone to viruses and malware. In all three

>>>> categories, Ubuntu beats Windows hands down. 99% of home users would

>>>> be better off running Ubuntu and that's a fact, Jack.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Not unless they can run programs of their choice, where they are not

>>> having to accept cheap and sometimes ugly compromises..

>>>

>>

>> Most home users, as I stated, don't need specialized programs and

>> could not only save money by installing Ubuntu instead of Vista, they

>> would save money having to pay someone to clean up the viruses or

>> malware that they inadvertently get. I know it would cost a lot of the

>> techs here money if everyone switched to Ubuntu as there would be no

>> more Windows machines to clean up and it therefore perfectly

>> understandable that you would like to perpetuate FUD about Linux in

>> general and Ubuntu in particular.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You really are the most insulting person. My condolences to your family..

>

> People can install Ubuntu and the compromise programs if they so desire,

> but most don't so desire even though they are free. Have you ever asked

> yourself why they don't? I don't believe that you care one iota as long

> as you get a stab at MS.

>

> Why aren't you beta testing for Ubuntu? You won't load an Ubuntu edition

> unless you think that it has been perfected. Where is your true

> commitment to Linux? Do you have any? There is a call for programmers,

> developers etc on the Ubuntu web site. What are you doing for their

> cause other than making Ubuntu users look like anti-MS/Mac zealots?

>

I'll tell you what he is doing...scamming little old ladies out of their

hard earned cash! He tells them their computers are malware and virus

infected and then sells them a copy of ubuntu that he got for free. In

reality, there is nothing at all wrong with their computers. They may be

full of cookies and may need to have their "temp" folders deleted and or

a few drivers updated but nothing like he wants us all to believe.

He's a known and admitted liar...hell he proly lies to his family,

friends and everyone (even his sheep!) all the time.

The authorities will someday get his lying, scamming ass!

Frank

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March 9, 200817 yr

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

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> In article <u$7$s4hgIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>It runs 24/7/52 and has NEVER crashed.

>>>

>>> What about the other 313?

>>>

>>Steve's numbers include all earth days within a year.. add a further 313?

>

> 24/7/52 would be 24 hours a day 7 days a week 52 days a year. 14%

> uptime isn't much of an SLA.

>

> Most places proud of their uptime claim 24/7/365. So I was wondering

> what Steve did with the other 313 days. Scheduled maintenance? Or a lot

> of holidays?

>

The reference was to 52 weeks.. We are at Chapter 4 - Understanding the

Gregorian Calendar.. please feel free to join us when you are ready.. :-)

Oh and btw, the clocks have moved FORWARDS one hour across most of the North

American Continent..

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"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Three big differences between Windows and Ubuntu: stability,

Vista is stable so you are saying Ubuntu is unstable.

> price and

One is free the other comes bundled with hardware, so what?

> being prone or not prone to viruses and malware.

There is much evidence that Ubuntu has as many security holes as windows if

not more.

> In all three categories, Ubuntu beats Windows hands down. 99% of home

> users would be better off running Ubuntu and that's a fact, Jack.

You are wrong as usual.

>

> Alias

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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

snip more lies and insults.

>> Alias

>

> You really are the most insulting person. My condolences to your family..

>

> People can install Ubuntu and the compromise programs if they so desire,

> but most don't so desire even though they are free. Have you ever asked

> yourself why they don't? I don't believe that you care one iota as long as

> you get a stab at MS.

>

> Why aren't you beta testing for Ubuntu? You won't load an Ubuntu edition

> unless you think that it has been perfected. Where is your true commitment

> to Linux? Do you have any? There is a call for programmers, developers etc

> on the Ubuntu web site. What are you doing for their cause other than

> making Ubuntu users look like anti-MS/Mac zealots?

The only thing alias could do to help Ubuntu would be to shut up.

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March 10, 200817 yr

> What about the other 313?

Pillock. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

Are you too thick to understand what's wrong with the more common (but

faulty) 24/7/365?

SteveT

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March 10, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:uuSJJHigIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23x5vHbggIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote

>>>>>> in message news:6692D94E-AA28-411D-A8A1-AEFCBAFA1C8A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:OvW18VUgIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:fqufaq027f0@news1.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Since I have the spud KF'd, I'll hit on some of his issues since

>>>>>>> you quoted him. I like Mandrake/Mandriva and have used the apps

>>>>>>> he quotes. Response in line, with extraneous BS snipped. Again,

>>>>>>> this post is by no means to you Mike.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> And of 25000 free programs, the best you could find was AbiWord..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Nope, wrong again ... no banana. Just a few off the top of my

>>>>>>>>> head ...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Amarok - the very best music player/collection organizer

>>>>>>>>> available on any

>>>>>>>>> system, bar none.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sorry. Winamp, QCD, and even SAM broadcaster blow this one away.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> K3B - far better than Nero.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sorry. Not even close to the functionality and power of Nero.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Samba - does Windoze networking better than Windoze

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sorry, it's good, but not THAT good. There are still problems.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> mysql - leader in databases for the desktop

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> There are versions of mysql for Windows. This is about what kick

>>>>>>> ass programs are available for Linux. Try not to overlap.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> apache - THE webserver of the Internet

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Which dropped market share from 71% to 52.6% against IIS. It is

>>>>>>> no longer THE webserver, and it is dropping steadily.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> gimp - most advanced FREE image editor around

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> While I like Gimp, FREE is the key word. You get what you pay

>>>>>>> for. Still doesn't touch Photoshop or PSP.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Pidgin - best and most universal IM client out there

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Way wrong. Trillian has this beat hands down.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Konversation - great IRC client with many great features

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Not even close to mIRC, Chatzilla, or XChat for Windows.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Knode - my preferred newsreader

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You ARE kidding right? Firefox, Opera, Netscape, and even IE blow

>>>>>>> this kludgy piece of crap away.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Evolution - a very nice mail client, along with other great

>>>>>>>>> features.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Love Evolution, but still doesn't come close to Outlook.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Gnome - configurable beautiful desktop

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This is not a program, it is a desktop environment (shell) like

>>>>>>> Explorer. This is the one I used for my desktop, but still not an

>>>>>>> application which is what this is all about

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Compiz - the very best, least resource intensive 3d desktop

>>>>>>>>> available which

>>>>>>>>> leaves Aero and OSX in its dust.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Woohoo it's a cube. Again, this is NOT a program, it is an OpenGL

>>>>>>> compositing and windows manger. Just sits on top of Gnome, KDE,

>>>>>>> etc. In fact you are wasting resources because this has to ride

>>>>>>> on top of the shell, instead of being integrated.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Nautilus - great filemanager with scripts to extend it in

>>>>>>>>> incredible ways

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Has to be one one of the worst file managers in existence. At

>>>>>>> best, an explorer clone.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> VLC - play any DVD and don't worry about encryption and regions

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You're overlapping again. There is a Windows version of this.

>>>>>>> Stick with Linux only software.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The list goes on and on, and these apps don't cost a penny.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And that is because for the most part, they are not equivalent to

>>>>>>> a comparable Windows program. Again, you get what you pay for.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You know, you shouldn't embarrass yourself like this, because

>>>>>>> there are those of us that know both systems, and can prove you

>>>>>>> wrong. Unlike you zealots however, I could care less what

>>>>>>> operating system you use. If Linux does it for you, great. As

>>>>>>> long as you can do the stuff you need to do. Should I go into

>>>>>>> c.o.l.a. and telling them that is crap, and they need to switch

>>>>>>> to Vista? What you smacktards lack though is respect for people's

>>>>>>> decision to use what they want. You and your ilk are a smacktards

>>>>>>> not because you use Linux or whatever, but because you are just

>>>>>>> like any other loony group of zealots. You get treated like a

>>>>>>> bunch of retards. You guys could be so beneficial to the support

>>>>>>> group of your chosen OS, so why you all choose to continue to act

>>>>>>> like imbeciles is very puzzling. Just once you might want to try

>>>>>>> being unbiased. You might find that you like it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.

>>>>>>> http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel

>>>>>>> Undo the munge to reply by email

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> A nicely written piece.. way to go..

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Three big differences between Windows and Ubuntu: stability, price

>>>>> and being prone or not prone to viruses and malware. In all three

>>>>> categories, Ubuntu beats Windows hands down. 99% of home users

>>>>> would be better off running Ubuntu and that's a fact, Jack.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Not unless they can run programs of their choice, where they are not

>>>> having to accept cheap and sometimes ugly compromises..

>>>>

>>>

>>> Most home users, as I stated, don't need specialized programs and

>>> could not only save money by installing Ubuntu instead of Vista, they

>>> would save money having to pay someone to clean up the viruses or

>>> malware that they inadvertently get. I know it would cost a lot of

>>> the techs here money if everyone switched to Ubuntu as there would be

>>> no more Windows machines to clean up and it therefore perfectly

>>> understandable that you would like to perpetuate FUD about Linux in

>>> general and Ubuntu in particular.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You really are the most insulting person. My condolences to your family..

>>

>> People can install Ubuntu and the compromise programs if they so

>> desire, but most don't so desire even though they are free. Have you

>> ever asked yourself why they don't? I don't believe that you care one

>> iota as long as you get a stab at MS.

>>

>> Why aren't you beta testing for Ubuntu? You won't load an Ubuntu

>> edition unless you think that it has been perfected. Where is your

>> true commitment to Linux? Do you have any? There is a call for

>> programmers, developers etc on the Ubuntu web site. What are you doing

>> for their cause other than making Ubuntu users look like anti-MS/Mac

>> zealots?

>>

> I'll tell you what he is doing...scamming little old ladies out of their

> hard earned cash! He tells them their computers are malware and virus

> infected and then sells them a copy of ubuntu that he got for free. In

> reality, there is nothing at all wrong with their computers. They may be

> full of cookies and may need to have their "temp" folders deleted and or

> a few drivers updated but nothing like he wants us all to believe.

> He's a known and admitted liar...hell he proly lies to his family,

> friends and everyone (even his sheep!) all the time.

> The authorities will someday get his lying, scamming ass!

> Frank

You have quite a primitive imagination, Frank.

Alias