Vista; Step back in Time

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

>>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

March 8, 200817 yr

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:eOHYxWTgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> Michael

>>>

>>> DM wrote:

>>>> HAHAH!!!

>>>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>

>>>> What OS do you prefer?

>>>

>>> Same one I do, Ubuntu. Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's FREE and

>>> comes with over 25,000 FREE programs. Not only that but, compared to

>>> Windows, it's bulletproof against viruses and malware. No WPA, No WGA,

>>> No

>>> DRM issues and *very* user friendly.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>> (applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>> to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>> the term

>>>>>> obvious.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>> Vista.

>>>>> :-)

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>

>>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>>> The closest to "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>

>>

>> And of 25000 free programs, the best you could find was AbiWord..

>>

> Nope, wrong again ... no banana. Just a few off the top of my head ...

>

> Amarok - the very best music player/collection organizer available on any

> system, bar none.

> K3B - far better than Nero.

> Samba - does Windoze networking better than Windoze

> mysql - leader in databases for the desktop

> apache - THE webserver of the Internet

> gimp - most advanced FREE image editor around

> Pidgin - best and most universal IM client out there

> Konversation - great IRC client with many great features

> Knode - my preferred newsreader

> Evolution - a very nice mail client, along with other great features.

> Gnome - configurable beautiful desktop

> Compiz - the very best, least resource intensive 3d desktop available

> which

> leaves Aero and OSX in its dust.

> Nautilus - great filemanager with scripts to extend it in incredible ways

> VLC - play any DVD and don't worry about encryption and regions

>

> The list goes on and on, and these apps don't cost a penny.

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

> What does Bill Gates use?

> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>

> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>

> AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

> The closest to "computing" that man should go.

>

> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>

That's maybe 14 apps. Do you want to do the simple Math or should I?

Is there a personal finance app in your list? No there isn't, and if you go

to sites where there are Linux personal finance applications, all of them

state quite clearly that they do NOT have all of the features of either

Quicken or MS Money, and that a user of either of these would have to

substantially change the way they work if they made the swap, foregoing some

features. This kind of scenario so often seen with open source applications

is not an 'alternative'. It is a compromise.

I take nothing away from the people who spend their time on open source

programming. They do a great job, and the fact that many open source

applications are free is a good thing.

BUT, when advising computer users to switch to a different platform, knowing

darned well that you will not be there to guide them properly, or to advise

them that there will be quite marked differences, is doing a disservice to

the user and the Linux movement as a whole..

--

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Quote

>>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fqujqk11q75@news3.newsguy.com...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>> DM wrote:

>>>

>>>> HAHAH!!!

>>>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>

>>>> What OS do you prefer?

>>>>

>>> Ubuntu!

>>>

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>

>>> Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>> Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>>> Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>>> of

>>> using a computer.

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>> (applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>> to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>> the term obvious.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>> Vista.

>>>>> :-)

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>

>>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>> to

>>>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>

>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>

>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>> to

>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>

>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>

>>

>> 25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>>

> Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

> utilities,

> networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

> technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest

> of

> the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

> efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

> actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

> that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

> go

> to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

> What does Bill Gates use?

> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>

> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>

> AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

> The closest to "computing" that man should go.

>

> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>

What you have mentioned doesn't get close to the 25000 free programs. What

you should say is that there are a few alternatives/compromises..

--

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March 8, 200817 yr

Kerry Brown wrote:

> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

> news:Xns9A5B76F648019thisnthatadelphianet@207.46.248.16...

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in

>> news:#ez5FZTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>>

>>> Too late for this post, Kerry. The trolls have already started.. :-)

>>

>> Trolls ? Where ? Oh, you mean Alias & NoStop ?

>>

>> I see one post from each of them answering a question posted by DM. And

>> answered straight and to the point. Nothing else.

>>

>> What happens next is when it becomes a problem. One of a couple other

>> WinTrolls will come by and reply with....

>>

>> 'Get out of here you f*n, POS, linux loser liar (blah blah blah)'

>>

>> 'You this, you that'

>>

>> THAT is when the trolling begins. Whatever comes after that is undoubtly

>> and completely moronic from boths sides.

>>

>> I can't believe you people don't see it as I do.

>>

>

> In my mind answering every question with "Switch to Linux" isn't very

> helpful. I consider that trolling.

>

Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after SP3,

it'll be useable."

And what can anyone conclude by that kind of answer? Only that it's been

uttered by a Microsoft Fanboy who does a disservice to other computer users

by promoting a broken bloatware toy operating system and spreads FUD

against alternatives that really work well. Only reasons I can see for this

kind of behavior are:

* the Microsoft Fanboy holds Microsoft stock and will do anything to keep

that stock value up.

* the Microsoft Fanboy makes a living helping other MS users keep their

computers clean of malware and recovering their data when the toy operating

system collapses. It's in the Microsoft Fanboys economic interests to keep

others using MS's broken operating systems.

* the Microsoft Fanboy knows just enough about trying to keep MS's toy

operating systems afloat to look like an "expert". This helps stroke their

egos.

* the Microsoft Fanboy knows little about how computers really work but are

somewhat proficient of clicking their way though MS wizards. This lack of

general computer knowledge scares them from really learning how another

alternative OS works because that would mean unlearning all the spoonfed MS

ways and learning something new. An investment in time that they are too

lazy or incompetent to undertake.

* All of the above.

I think this has got you pegged.

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>

>>>DM wrote:

>>>

>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>

>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>

>>>

>>>Ubuntu!

>>>

>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>

>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>>>Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>>>of

>>>using a computer.

>>>

>>>Cheers.

>>>

>>>>

>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>

>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>>to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>>the term obvious.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>:-)

>>>>>

>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>to

>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>

>>>--

>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>

>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>

>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest to

>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>

>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>

>>

>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>>

>

> Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection utilities,

> networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

> technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest of

> the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

> efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

> actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

> that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to go

> to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>

> Cheers.

>

Oh really?

A quick precursory glance over at the linux ng tells a completely

different story.

Frank

Quote

> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

March 8, 200817 yr

Kerry Brown wrote:

> In my mind answering every question with "Switch to Linux" isn't very

> helpful. I consider that trolling.

>

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

BTW, (assuming you're somehow connected to this online forum) why is the

above URL running on Linux? Did you look around for an effective answer to

running an online forum and found that phpBB and Linux was the way to go?

Why did you "Switch to Linux" in this instance? Just curious.

And how would YOU define "trolling" when you challenge others while at the

same time "not walking the walk"?

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after SP3,

> it'll be useable."

You and your other linux troll pal just can't stand the fact that Vista

is very usable today. You and your other linux pal have this fanatical

love for linux and this pure hatred for MS and you guys are unable to

control yourselves or your emotions about these two os.s.

There is something mentally wrong with you and your pal that you don't

get that this is an MS/Vista ng. Not a linux ng.

Why is that?

And I lnow I have the two of you pegged.

Frank

Quote

>>http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Kerry Brown wrote:

>

>>In my mind answering every question with "Switch to Linux" isn't very

>>helpful. I consider that trolling.

>>

>>Kerry Brown

>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>

> BTW, (assuming you're somehow connected to this online forum) why is the

> above URL running on Linux? Did you look around for an effective answer to

> running an online forum and found that phpBB and Linux was the way to go?

> Why did you "Switch to Linux" in this instance? Just curious.

>

> And how would YOU define "trolling" when you challenge others while at the

> same time "not walking the walk"?

>

> Cheers.

>

You don't consider yourself a troll?

Frank

Quote

>>>http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>

>>>In my mind answering every question with "Switch to Linux" isn't very

>>>helpful. I consider that trolling.

>>>

>>>Kerry Brown

>>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>>

>> BTW, (assuming you're somehow connected to this online forum) why is the

>> above URL running on Linux? Did you look around for an effective answer

>> to running an online forum and found that phpBB and Linux was the way to

>> go? Why did you "Switch to Linux" in this instance? Just curious.

>>

>> And how would YOU define "trolling" when you challenge others while at

>> the same time "not walking the walk"?

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>

> You don't consider yourself a troll?

> Frank

I consider YOU a troll Francis. Anymore questions?

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>

>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>

>>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Ubuntu!

>>>>

>>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>

>>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>>>>Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>>>>of

>>>>using a computer.

>>>>

>>>>Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>>>to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>>>the term obvious.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>>:-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>>to

>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>

>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>

>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>to "computing" that man should go.

>>>>

>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>

>>>

>>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>>>

>>

>> Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>> utilities, networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are

>> all too technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For

>> the rest of the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a

>> computer efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux

>> distros actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>> that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>> go to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

> Oh really?

> A quick precursory glance over at the linux ng tells a completely

> different story.

> Frank

YOU, Francis, don't understand ordinary English. I doubt very much you could

wrap your brain damaged head around Linux technical discussions and make

any sense of it. Go away Troll.

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:fqujqk11q75@news3.newsguy.com...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> HAHAH!!!

>>>>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>

>>>>> What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>

>>>> Ubuntu!

>>>>

>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>

>>>> Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>> Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of

>>>> "activation". Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The

>>>> 21st Century way of

>>>> using a computer.

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>> (applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>>> to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>>> the term obvious.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>> :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The

>>>>>> closest to

>>>>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>

>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>

>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>> to

>>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>>

>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>

>>>

>>> 25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of

>>> technical..

>>>

>> Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>> utilities,

>> networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

>> technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest

>> of

>> the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

>> efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

>> actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>> that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>> go

>> to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>> --

>> What does Bill Gates use?

>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>

>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>

>> AlexB's abacus:

>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest to

>> "computing" that man should go.

>>

>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>

>

> What you have mentioned doesn't get close to the 25000 free programs. What

> you should say is that there are a few alternatives/compromises..

>

Give me a break you Wintard. Like I have the time to explain to YOU the

significance of each of 25000+ packages. Go and try them for yourself, if

you're capable. You'll soon learn what real power is on the desktop.

Until then, go and play Minesweeper and defrag your See Drive.

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>

>> Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after SP3,

>> it'll be useable."

>

> You and your other linux troll pal just can't stand the fact that Vista

> is very usable today. You and your other linux pal have this fanatical

> love for linux and this pure hatred for MS and you guys are unable to

> control yourselves or your emotions about these two os.s.

> There is something mentally wrong with you and your pal that you don't

> get that this is an MS/Vista ng. Not a linux ng.

> Why is that?

> And I lnow I have the two of you pegged.

> Frank

Suggesting a better OS than Vista falls under "General". Too bad you're

too stupid to understand that and can only spew lies, insults, profanity

and bluster.

Alias

http://www.ubuntu.com

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

>>

>>You don't consider yourself a troll?

>>Frank

>

> I consider YOU a troll Francis.

I have never posted using a name "Francis". My name is Frank. I know

you've posted using "doris day" and "nostop". That is why I refer to you

by either or both of those names. I have and use MS/Vista...you don't. I

am not a troll and you are.

Anymore questions?

Why won't you answer my original question?

Frank

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> DM wrote:

>

>> HAHAH!!!

>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>

>> What OS do you prefer?

>>

> nostop and alias are both linux trolls. They hate MS and Vista and are

> here not to help but to demean Vista users (as nostop just to you) and

> promote linux.

> Best to pay no attention to them.

> Frank

Troll.

Alias

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>>NoStop wrote:

>>

>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>>

>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Ubuntu!

>>>>>

>>>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>>

>>>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>>>>>Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>>>>>of

>>>>>using a computer.

>>>>>

>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>>>>to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>>>>the term obvious.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>>>:-)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>>>to

>>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>to "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>>>>

>>>

>>>Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>>>utilities, networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are

>>>all too technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For

>>>the rest of the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a

>>>computer efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux

>>>distros actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>>>that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>>>go to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>>

>>>Cheers.

>>>

>>

>>Oh really?

>>A quick precursory glance over at the linux ng tells a completely

>>different story.

>>Frank

>

> YOU, Francis, don't understand ordinary English.

My name is Frank, not Francis. I made a rather clear and simple

statement that is completely truthful. What part of it don't you understand?

I doubt very much you could

> wrap your brain damaged head...

Sorry, but I've never suffered from any form of "brain damage"...

around Linux technical discussions and make

> any sense of it.

You haven't posted any linux technical discussion here.

Can't you address my statement or is it too "technical" for you?

Go away Troll.

I am not a troll but You are.

Frank

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>news:fqujqk11q75@news3.newsguy.com...

>>

>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>>

>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Ubuntu!

>>>>>

>>>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>>

>>>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of

>>>>>"activation". Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The

>>>>>21st Century way of

>>>>>using a computer.

>>>>>

>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>>>>to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used

>>>>>>>>the term obvious.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>>>:-)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The

>>>>>>>closest to

>>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>to

>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of

>>>>technical..

>>>>

>>>

>>>Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>>>utilities,

>>>networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

>>>technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest

>>>of

>>>the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

>>>efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

>>>actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>>>that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>>>go

>>>to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>>

>>>Cheers.

>>>

>>>--

>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>

>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>

>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest to

>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>

>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>

>>

>>What you have mentioned doesn't get close to the 25000 free programs. What

>>you should say is that there are a few alternatives/compromises..

>>

>

> Give me a break you Wintard.

Can't address the question without first insulting the op?

Like I have the time to explain to YOU the

> significance of each of 25000+ packages.

Well, you're always here pushing linux...what else do you have to do?

Go and try them for yourself, if

> you're capable.

More insults? You're one angry, hateful person.

You'll soon learn what real power is on the desktop.

That is your opinion isn't it. Why aren't you doing something powerfully

productive with it other than trolling in this ng and just using it for

ng's, huh?

>

> Until then, go and play Minesweeper and defrag your See Drive.

More insults, huh? This is a pattern you always use when cornered in

this ng.

You are the perfect definition of a troll.

Frank

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in

news:eM6vVPUgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

>> THAT is when the trolling begins. Whatever comes after that is

>> undoubtly and completely moronic from boths sides.

>>

>> I can't believe you people don't see it as I do.

>>

>

> Dan

>

> I see what is happening, as do Kerry and others. The blame does not

> just fall on the Ubuntu supporters, but they are the catalyst.

>

> As I said in a previous thread, it would not be so bad if the Ubuntu

> crowd were open for a proper discussion, but they are not..

That is so untrue.

I have seen actual discussions from both of whom you have labelled trolls,

as well as other LinNuts, or LinTards, or whatever else you (not you

personally) choose to call the users of Linux.

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> NoStop wrote:

>>

>>> Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after SP3,

>>> it'll be useable."

>>

>> You and your other linux troll pal just can't stand the fact that

>> Vista is very usable today. You and your other linux pal have this

>> fanatical love for linux and this pure hatred for MS and you guys are

>> unable to control yourselves or your emotions about these two os.s.

>> There is something mentally wrong with you and your pal that you don't

>> get that this is an MS/Vista ng. Not a linux ng.

>> Why is that?

>> And I lnow I have the two of you pegged.

>> Frank

>

> Suggesting a better OS than Vista falls under "General". Too bad you're

> too stupid to understand that and can only spew lies, insults, profanity

> and bluster.

>

> Alias

>

> http://www.ubuntu.com

Thanks for proving my point you brain dead, vile POS lying linux troll.

Frank

Quote

>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

news:edP66BUgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>> DM wrote:

>>

>>> HAHAH!!!

>>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>

>>> What OS do you prefer?

>>>

>> Ubuntu!

>>

>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>

>> Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>> Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>> Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>> of

>> using a computer.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>>>

>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>>

>>>>> Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>> (applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>> to

>>>>> configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used the

>>>>> term obvious.

>>>>>

>>>>> Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>

>>>> Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>> Vista.

>>>> :-)

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>

>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>

>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>> to

>>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>>

>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>

>>

>> --

>> What does Bill Gates use?

>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>

>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>

>> AlexB's abacus:

>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

>> The closest to "computing" that man should go.

>>

>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>

>

> 25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>

Wrong answer.. none stop will argue about that.

the fact that *all* of the useful free programs are also available for

windows sort of makes it a stupid claim.

"Get windows and have access to 25000 free programs and a lot of games and

other programs you can't get on linux"

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> NoStop wrote:

>>>

>>>> Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after

>>>> SP3,

>>>> it'll be useable."

>>>

>>> You and your other linux troll pal just can't stand the fact that

>>> Vista is very usable today. You and your other linux pal have this

>>> fanatical love for linux and this pure hatred for MS and you guys are

>>> unable to control yourselves or your emotions about these two os.s.

>>> There is something mentally wrong with you and your pal that you

>>> don't get that this is an MS/Vista ng. Not a linux ng.

>>> Why is that?

>>> And I lnow I have the two of you pegged.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Suggesting a better OS than Vista falls under "General". Too bad

>> you're too stupid to understand that and can only spew lies, insults,

>> profanity and bluster.

>>

>> Alias

>>

>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>

> Thanks for proving my point you brain dead, vile POS lying linux troll.

> Frank

You think you've proved something? LOL!

Alias

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> NoStop wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Better than saying "Stick with Vista, because some day, maybe after

>>>>> SP3,

>>>>> it'll be useable."

>>>>

>>>> You and your other linux troll pal just can't stand the fact that

>>>> Vista is very usable today. You and your other linux pal have this

>>>> fanatical love for linux and this pure hatred for MS and you guys

>>>> are unable to control yourselves or your emotions about these two os.s.

>>>> There is something mentally wrong with you and your pal that you

>>>> don't get that this is an MS/Vista ng. Not a linux ng.

>>>> Why is that?

>>>> And I lnow I have the two of you pegged.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Suggesting a better OS than Vista falls under "General". Too bad

>>> you're too stupid to understand that and can only spew lies, insults,

>>> profanity and bluster.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>

>> Thanks for proving my point you brain dead, vile POS lying linux troll.

>> Frank

>

> You think you've proved something? LOL!

>

> Alias

You did you idiot...LOL!

Frank

oh and thanks...hahaha

Quote

>>>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:edP66BUgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>> DM wrote:

>>>

>>>> HAHAH!!!

>>>> That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>

>>>> What OS do you prefer?

>>>>

>>> Ubuntu!

>>>

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>

>>> Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>> Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of "activation".

>>> Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The 21st Century way

>>> of

>>> using a computer.

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>> DM wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>> (applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the things

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice you used the

>>>>>> term obvious.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>> Vista.

>>>>> :-)

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>

>>>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>> to

>>>>> "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> What does Bill Gates use?

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>

>>> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>

>>> AlexB's abacus:

>>> http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

>>> The closest to "computing" that man should go.

>>>

>>> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>

>>

>> 25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of technical..

>>

>

> Wrong answer.. none stop will argue about that.

> the fact that *all* of the useful free programs are also available for

> windows sort of makes it a stupid claim.

> "Get windows and have access to 25000 free programs and a lot of games and

> other programs you can't get on linux"

Yes like OS stopping viruses and Internet polluting trojans. Any other wise

words of wisdom, dennis? Thought not.

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

March 8, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>news:fqujqk11q75@news3.newsguy.com...

>>>

>>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Ubuntu!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of

>>>>>>"activation". Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The

>>>>>>21st Century way of

>>>>>>using a computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the

>>>>>>>>>things to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice

>>>>>>>>>you used the term obvious.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>>>>:-)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The

>>>>>>>>closest to

>>>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>>to

>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of

>>>>>technical..

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>>>>utilities,

>>>>networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

>>>>technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest

>>>>of

>>>>the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

>>>>efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

>>>>actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>>>>that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>>>>go

>>>>to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>>>

>>>>Cheers.

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>

>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>

>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>to "computing" that man should go.

>>>>

>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>

>>>

>>>What you have mentioned doesn't get close to the 25000 free programs.

>>>What you should say is that there are a few alternatives/compromises..

>>>

>>

>> Give me a break you Wintard.

>

> Can't address the question without first insulting the op?

>

> Like I have the time to explain to YOU the

>> significance of each of 25000+ packages.

>

> Well, you're always here pushing linux...what else do you have to do?

>

> Go and try them for yourself, if

>> you're capable.

>

> More insults? You're one angry, hateful person.

>

> You'll soon learn what real power is on the desktop.

>

> That is your opinion isn't it. Why aren't you doing something powerfully

> productive with it other than trolling in this ng and just using it for

> ng's, huh?

>

>>

>> Until then, go and play Minesweeper and defrag your See Drive.

>

> More insults, huh? This is a pattern you always use when cornered in

> this ng.

> You are the perfect definition of a troll.

> Frank

Gulp! Listen to THE Usenet Village Idiot! Charging me with everything it's

become "famous" for. Gawd, are you the dumbest thing I've come across in a

long long time. Now Francis, back to your marketing job - "will that be

fries with your order?' and stop strolling.

Cheers.

--

What does Bill Gates use?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg

The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

Quote

March 8, 200817 yr

NoStop wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>>NoStop wrote:

>>

>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fqujqk11q75@news3.newsguy.com...

>>>>

>>>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:fquepd04oc@news4.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>HAHAH!!!

>>>>>>>>That is a powerful statement!!!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>What OS do you prefer?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Ubuntu!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Free. Access to 25000+ free software packages. Rock stable. Secure.

>>>>>>>Powerful. Configurable. Leading edge. Free of DRM. Free of

>>>>>>>"activation". Fast. Can install on as many computers as you want. The

>>>>>>>21st Century way of

>>>>>>>using a computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>news:fquccg12d1@news5.newsguy.com...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>DM wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Thanks!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Maybe my old eyes are the problem. I am either not finding things

>>>>>>>>>>(applications or the settings panels) or cant get some of the

>>>>>>>>>>things to configure like I had them in 98, 00 and XP. I do notice

>>>>>>>>>>you used the term obvious.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Next stop, Vista for Dummies at the book store.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Very appropriate reading material for someone who is going to run

>>>>>>>>>Vista.

>>>>>>>>>:-)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The

>>>>>>>>>closest to

>>>>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>>>to

>>>>>>>"computing" that man should go.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>25000 free programs, most of which are firmly in the realm of

>>>>>>technical..

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Yeh, I guess email clients, multimedia programs, photo collection

>>>>>utilities,

>>>>>networking utilities and an effective commandline shell are all too

>>>>>technical for you. Understandable if one is a Vista Fanboy. For the rest

>>>>>of

>>>>>the world, Linux provides everything anyone needs to run a computer

>>>>>efficiently. Just in case you've never looked, today's Linux distros

>>>>>actually contain a GUI desktop, with icons, wizards and all

>>>>>that "technical" stuff you seem unable to assimilate without the need to

>>>>>go

>>>>>to third-parties to purchase functionality.

>>>>>

>>>>>Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>What does Bill Gates use?

>>>>>http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

>>>>>

>>>>>AlexB's abacus:

>>>>>http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg The closest

>>>>>to "computing" that man should go.

>>>>>

>>>>>Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>What you have mentioned doesn't get close to the 25000 free programs.

>>>>What you should say is that there are a few alternatives/compromises..

>>>>

>>>

>>>Give me a break you Wintard.

>>

>>Can't address the question without first insulting the op?

>>

>>Like I have the time to explain to YOU the

>>

>>>significance of each of 25000+ packages.

>>

>>Well, you're always here pushing linux...what else do you have to do?

>>

>> Go and try them for yourself, if

>>

>>>you're capable.

>>

>>More insults? You're one angry, hateful person.

>>

>> You'll soon learn what real power is on the desktop.

>>

>>That is your opinion isn't it. Why aren't you doing something powerfully

>>productive with it other than trolling in this ng and just using it for

>>ng's, huh?

>>

>>>Until then, go and play Minesweeper and defrag your See Drive.

>>

>>More insults, huh? This is a pattern you always use when cornered in

>>this ng.

>>You are the perfect definition of a troll.

>>Frank

>

> Gulp! Listen to THE Usenet Village Idiot!

Well...so far you're "THE Usenet Village Idiot" in this conversation.

Charging me with everything it's

> become "famous" for. Gawd, are you the dumbest thing I've come across in a

> long long time. Now Francis, back to your marketing job - "will that be

> fries with your order?' and stop strolling.

Still doing your insult act huh? Do you always feel that you're cornered

like a rat and have to resort to your status quo routine? Or is it that

you really don't know how to respond?

You're a troll aren't you.

Frank

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>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

March 8, 200817 yr

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:fqukp101rg3@news3.newsguy.com...

> Kerry Brown wrote:

>

>> In my mind answering every question with "Switch to Linux" isn't very

>> helpful. I consider that trolling.

>>

>> Kerry Brown

>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>

> BTW, (assuming you're somehow connected to this online forum) why is the

> above URL running on Linux? Did you look around for an effective answer to

> running an online forum and found that phpBB and Linux was the way to go?

> Why did you "Switch to Linux" in this instance? Just curious.

>

> And how would YOU define "trolling" when you challenge others while at the

> same time "not walking the walk"?

>

I never once expressed an opinion on Linux. I like it and use it every day.

In some ways I prefer it to Windows. If I was running a web hosting business

I would probably have mostly Linux servers, although from what I've seen of

Server 2008 and IIS7 I may change that opinion over time. That has nothing

to do with helping people with Vista. I stand by what I said. When someone

asks a question about Vista telling them to switch to Linux isn't much help.

They have a computer with Vista. If they wanted Linux they would have a

computer with Linux and be asking their question in an appropriate Linux

newsgroup or forum.

I can't understand people that espouse one OS over all others. I've used

almost every OS that has been available for micro and mini computers over

the years. I can honestly say that I've been productive with all of them and

haven't seen one that I'd use to the exclusion of all others. As far as

versions of Windows I by far like using Vista better than any other, except

perhaps Server 2008 but it's too new to say for sure.

--

Kerry Brown

Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

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