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Frank wrote:

> maya wrote:

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>> On Feb 27, 3:39 pm, "alexB" <al...@comcast.net> wrote:

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>>> I presume Vistasucks site is owned and operated by guess who? By Mr.

>>> Maya

>>> who is coming here to demonstrate his low IQ.

>>

>>

>> nope, wrong.... I have absolutely nothing to do with this blog.. I

>> found it just today, by searching for "vista sucks"

>

> You mean like you suck...LOL!

> Frank

>>

>> )

>>

 

Frank, I swear, you're so CHILDISH, this is schoolyard stuff... grow

up, smell the coffee, and get a life.....

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    AlexB wrote:

    > That's why he is here: to generate hits to his site.

    >

    > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> On Feb 27, 3:39 pm, "alexB" <al...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>>> I presume Vistasucks site is owned and operated by guess who? By Mr.

    >>>> Maya

    >>>> who is coming here to demonstrate his low IQ.

    >>>

    >>> nope, wrong.... I have absolutely nothing to do with this blog.. I

    >>> found it just today, by searching for "vista sucks"

    >>>

    >>> )

    >>

    >> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22vista%20sucks%22

    >>

    >> Wow, 199,000 hits! :-) I wonder ... does Vista really suck?

    >>

    >> Cheers.

    >>

    >> PS. Frank, THE Usenet Village Idiot and his sidekick, alexB need not

    >> reply.

    >>

    >> --

    >> Vista will make you speechless!

    >> http://tinyurl.com/38zv7x

    >>

    >> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

    >>

    >> Q: What OS is built for lusers?

    >> A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

    >>

    >> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

    >> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

     

     

    PRICELESS...:)

     

    thanks for that one, am still laughing......:)

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    AlexB wrote:

    > You, scummy Indian insulted MS with this thoughtless, idiotic statement.

    > In Jan 2008 Bill Gates and Charles Simonyi donated together $30M for

    > LSST (Large Synoptic Survey Telescope) a 465M project for the next

    > generation of Universe exploration hardware.

     

    hey, I'm a space-buff, he's donating for space-exploration?? hey,

    great... however, Vista is still a terrible product...

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    maya wrote:

     

    ....nothing of any importance. He's a mac troll.

    Frank

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    maya wrote:

     

     

     

    ....ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    Frank

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    DanS wrote:

    > "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in

    > news:OpUvKZbeIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

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    >>>>>> On Feb 27, 3:39 pm, "alexB" <al...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>>>>>> I presume Vistasucks site is owned and operated by guess who? By

    >>>>>>> Mr. Maya

    >>>>>>> who is coming here to demonstrate his low IQ.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> nope, wrong.... I have absolutely nothing to do with this blog..

    >>>>>> I found it just today, by searching for "vista sucks"

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> )

    >>>>>

    >>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22vista%20sucks%22

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Wow, 199,000 hits! :-) I wonder ... does Vista really suck?

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Cheers.

    >>>>

    >>>> 5,820,000 hits on Google for "Windows Vista is Great".

    >>>>

    >>>> YOU LOOSE.....

    >>>

    >>> Nope, that comes up with 79,800 hits. You lose.

    >>>

    >>

    >> Try again.

    >>

    >> http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADB

    >> R_enCA252CA253&q=windows+Vista+is+great

    >>

    >

    > You are searching for article's that have the words Windows, Vista, and

    > Great. Using non-phrase searching on these nearly equal results...

    >

    > xp is better than vista = 727,000

    > vista is better than xp = 722,000

    >

    > Try to search on a phrase

    >

    > "vista is great".....18,300 hits.

    > "vista sucks'......201,000

    >

    > vista is awesome = 712,000

    > "vista is awesome" = 32,000

    >

    > Or even searching GG....

    >

    > thank you alexb = 2000

    > "thank you alexb" = 3 .....or,

    >

    > alexb helps people = 359

    > "alexb helps people" = 0

     

    Now that you've taught him how to use Google, send him a bill.

     

    Cheers.

     

    --

    Vista will make you speechless!

    http://tinyurl.com/38zv7x

     

    Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

     

    Q: What OS is built for lusers?

    A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

     

    Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

    http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

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    >

    >

    > ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    > Frank

     

    I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here takes

    you seriously anymore????

     

    you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for so

    vigorously defending such a terrible product...

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

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    >

    >

    > ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    > Frank

     

    Um, he's using Windows to post. Oops. Ever figure out my "addy"? LOL,

    what a putz!

     

    Alias

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    In article <eR$A6ZYeIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

    alexB <alexb@comcast.net> wrote:

    >

    >And what do you, wharf rat, expect from a computer?

     

    Lol, isn't that like asking me what I expect from a woman? You're

    leaving out some context, don't you think?

     

    And you're still making the Microsoft-ish error of confusing the

    computer with the operating system. The question you're *really* asking

    is "What do I expect of an operating system?" and the answer is that

    I expect it to manage access to physical devices, multiplex I/O to the

    CPU, and be as unobstrusive as possible. Simplex sigillum veri, right?

     

     

    >What so special do you want to do that I possibly never thought of doing?

     

    Useful work, I'd say.

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    In article <#oXLfQYeIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

    alexB <alexb@comcast.net> wrote:

    >

    >If a serious company decided to use Ubuntu and problems arise, where would

    >they go? To Mr. Al-Alias? Or this idiot-OP: Maya?

    >

     

    They'd use the source, Luke. Or a paid support contract as with

    any other software.

     

    Great Ghu, but you're dumb.

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here takes

    > you seriously anymore????

     

    Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >

    > you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for so

    > vigorously defending such a terrible product...

     

    We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    any financial barriers.

    I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    Which version?

    Frank

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    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > Um, he's using Windows to post. Oops. Ever figure out my "addy"? LOL,

    > what a putz!

    >

    > Alias

     

    Coward!

    Frank

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >> takes you seriously anymore????

    >

    > Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >

    >>

    >> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for

    >> so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >

    > We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    > installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    > prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    > mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    > very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    > any financial barriers.

    > I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    > Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    > Which version?

    > Frank

     

    ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to some

    who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

     

    I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

     

    I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten corrupted

    and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets corrupted, whoever

    heard of such a thing...)

     

    now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key, but

    another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif. for

    digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I have to

    do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and starting

    over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData folder

    inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in external

    HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB)

    than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

     

    NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

     

    thank you..

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >> takes you seriously anymore????

    >

    > Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >

    >>

    >> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for

    >> so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >

    > We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    > installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    > prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    > mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    > very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    > any financial barriers.

    > I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    > Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    > Which version?

    > Frank

     

    oh -- I forgot -- am on Ultimate.........

     

    thanks..

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>

    >> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>

    >>>

    >>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for

    >>> so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>

    >> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    >> installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    >> mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    >> very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    >> any financial barriers.

    >> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    >> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >> Which version?

    >> Frank

    >

    > ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to some

    > who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >

    > I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >

    > I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    > the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    > to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    > paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    > feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    > key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    > folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten corrupted

    > and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets corrupted, whoever

    > heard of such a thing...)

    >

    > now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key, but

    > another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif. for

    > digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I have to

    > do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and starting

    > over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData folder

    > inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in external

    > HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB)

    > than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >

    > NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    > happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >

    > thank you..

     

    Frank doesn't worry about data on his Vista computer. All he uses it for is

    to play Minesweeper. He already knows that his is always the highest score,

    as no one else plays Minesweeper on his mom's computer but him. No need to

    save data.

     

    Cheers.

     

    --

    Vista will make you speechless!

    http://tinyurl.com/38zv7x

     

    Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

     

    Q: What OS is built for lusers?

    A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

     

    Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:

    http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

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    NoStop wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>> Frank

    >>>>

    >>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>

    >>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for

    >>>> so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    >>> installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >>> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    >>> mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    >>> very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    >>> any financial barriers.

    >>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    >>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >>> Which version?

    >>> Frank

    >> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to some

    >> who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>

    >> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>

    >> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    >> the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    >> to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    >> paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    >> feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    >> key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    >> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten corrupted

    >> and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets corrupted, whoever

    >> heard of such a thing...)

    >>

    >> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key, but

    >> another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif. for

    >> digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I have to

    >> do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and starting

    >> over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData folder

    >> inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in external

    >> HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB)

    >> than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >>

    >> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>

    >> thank you..

    >

    > Frank doesn't worry about data on his Vista computer. All he uses it for is

    > to play Minesweeper. He already knows that his is always the highest score,

    > as no one else plays Minesweeper on his mom's computer but him. No need to

    > save data.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

     

    guys, let's be fair.. Frank asked me directly what my problem with

    Vista was, I responded.. no sense in overdoing it with the insults here...

     

    (btw, I have posted here what my main problem is with Vista about three

    times now, I have yet to receive a response/possible solution form anyone..)

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>

    >>

    >> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>

    >>>

    >>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation for

    >>> so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>

    >>

    >> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    >> installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    >> mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be the

    >> very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not limited by

    >> any financial barriers.

    >> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at all.

    >> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >> Which version?

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to some

    > who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >

    > I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >

    > I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    > the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    > to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    > paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    > feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    > key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

     

    Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    > folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten corrupted

    > and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets corrupted, whoever

    > heard of such a thing...)

     

    Typical answer form these places.

    >

    > now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key, but

    > another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif. for

    > digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I have to

    > do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and starting

    > over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData folder

    > inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in external

    > HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB)

    > than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >

    > NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    > happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

     

    Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all over the

    tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware and Vista ready

    drivers.

    Frank

     

    Oh, as an aside, I have two computers using Hauppauge HD cards,

    WinTV-HVR-1600 which currently runs under Windows XP and Vista with

    Microsoft's Media Center application, one here at work and the other at

    home. Both work perfectly. We have cable TV at both locals. The cards

    get both analog and HD (clear QAM).

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    "maya" <maya778899@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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    >>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    >>> the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    >>> to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    >>> paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    >>> feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    >>> key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    >>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten corrupted

    >>> and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets corrupted, whoever

    >>> heard of such a thing...)

     

    Yeah, that can happen to most OSs. One of my least favorite issues in XP

    was a system catalog store issue that would 80% of the time require the

    system to be rebuilt.

     

    Nobody likes that sort of thing.

     

    I would love to understand how they arrived at that conclusion and what they

    specifically feel is corrupt.

    >>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key, but

    >>> another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif. for

    >>> digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I have to

    >>> do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and starting

    >>> over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData folder

    >>> inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in external

    >>> HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB)

    >>> than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    > (btw, I have posted here what my main problem is with Vista about three

    > times now, I have yet to receive a response/possible solution form

    > anyone..)

     

    This isn't a support forum, though, per the Expectations of Service -

    "Microsoft does not offer formal support for the communities you'll find

    here."

    http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette

     

    I don't think anyone knows enough about your system to second-guess what

    people who looked at your system directly told you.

     

    I definitely don't know how they arrived at their conclusion of 'Vista has

    gotten corrupted' and potentially would think that's just the lazy "let's

    smash it all to bits" approach to problem-solving here, but again - nobody

    here is an expert at digital tuner activation (that I'm aware of), so hoping

    for support here is not going to work. You might want to turn to some other

    channel, such as a a Windows Media Center-centric forum/site, for advice

    that is relevant to your problem.

     

    Please do so. If that doesn't resolve your issue by Monday, post back to

    your way way old thread (or anything other than this thread, for which you

    and I discussing cable cards would be kind of off-subject-topic), and I'll

    give it further probably useless thought and potentially hook you up with a

    different solution path.

     

    I know absolutely nothing about digital tuner activation and suspect that no

    one here does either.

     

    -Zach

    --

    Speaking for myself only.

    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>> Frank

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>

    >>>>

    >>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation

    >>>> for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it is

    >>> installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >>> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    >>> mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be

    >>> the very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not

    >>> limited by any financial barriers.

    >>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at

    >>> all.

    >>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >>> Which version?

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to

    >> some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>

    >> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>

    >> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    >> the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they have

    >> to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box, I'm

    >> paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital cable-tv

    >> feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting the product

    >> key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    >

    > Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >

    >> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >

    > Typical answer form these places.

    >>

    >> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key,

    >> but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif.

    >> for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I

    >> have to do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and

    >> starting over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up AppData

    >> folder inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up the one in

    >> external HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean

    >> less GB) than the one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >>

    >> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >

    > Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all over the

    > tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware and Vista ready

    > drivers.

    > Frank

     

    "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the wrong

    card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so, because:

     

    1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

     

    2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot of

    "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those things

    check fine... it's only when I put product key that things go wrong (I

    wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in there..)

     

    my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the same

    problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after sucessfully

    convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product key and stuff, he

    put me on hold to find out if anybody else had encountered same problem,

    when he came back he said, this prob occurs b/c Vista gets corrupted,

    you need to re-install...)

     

    and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any of

    those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT customer

    service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they are always

    very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to get me off the

    phone..) it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

     

    thanks for yr response....

    >

    > Oh, as an aside, I have two computers using Hauppauge HD cards,

    > WinTV-HVR-1600 which currently runs under Windows XP and Vista with

    > Microsoft's Media Center application, one here at work and the other at

    > home. Both work perfectly. We have cable TV at both locals. The cards

    > get both analog and HD (clear QAM).

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>>>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation

    >>>>> for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it

    >>>> is installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >>>> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a productive

    >>>> mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find Vista to be

    >>>> the very best OS available today and our choice of OS's is not

    >>>> limited by any financial barriers.

    >>>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it at

    >>>> all.

    >>>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >>>> Which version?

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to

    >>> some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>>

    >>> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>>

    >>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when purchased

    >>> the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a card they

    >>> have to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital cable box,

    >>> I'm paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the digital

    >>> cable-tv feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not accepting

    >>> the product key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    >>

    >>

    >> Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >>

    >>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >>> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >>> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >>

    >>

    >> Typical answer form these places.

    >>

    >>>

    >>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key,

    >>> but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine, specif.

    >>> for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product key I

    >>> have to do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my data and

    >>> starting over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back up

    >>> AppData folder inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it up

    >>> the one in external HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by a

    >>> lot - (I mean less GB) than the one on my machine, so I can't do the

    >>> re-install yet...

    >>>

    >>> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >>> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>

    >>

    >> Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all over

    >> the tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware and Vista

    >> ready drivers.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the wrong

    > card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so, because:

    >

    > 1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

    >

    > 2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot of

    > "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those things

    > check fine... it's only when I put product key that things go wrong (I

    > wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in there..)

     

    So you're having trouble with a product key from the cable company. I

    fail to see the connection with Vista.

    >

    > my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the same

    > problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after sucessfully

    > convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product key and stuff, he

    > put me on hold to find out if anybody else had encountered same problem,

    > when he came back he said, this prob occurs b/c Vista gets corrupted,

    > you need to re-install...)

    >

    Well, did you try a repair install?

    > and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any of

    > those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT customer

    > service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they are always

    > very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to get me off the

    > phone..)

     

    Really?

     

    it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    > machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

    >

    > thanks for yr response....

     

    If installing a tv card and trying to activate using their key has

    corrupted Vista I'd make them fix it! That's ridiculous that just doing

    a product key activation would cause the entire OS to be corrupted.

    Other than the key not working does the rest of Vista work properly?

    Frank

    >

    >>

    >> Oh, as an aside, I have two computers using Hauppauge HD cards,

    >> WinTV-HVR-1600 which currently runs under Windows XP and Vista with

    >> Microsoft's Media Center application, one here at work and the other

    >> at home. Both work perfectly. We have cable TV at both locals. The

    >> cards get both analog and HD (clear QAM).

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    From: "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com>

     

    | In article <#5H0e6feIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

    | David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

    >>

    >> Not that I can provide you -- Sorry !

    >>

    | Why not?

     

    I can't provide what is NOT publicly available.

     

     

    --

    Dave

    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>>>>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation

    >>>>>> for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it

    >>>>> is installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta. We

    >>>>> prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a

    >>>>> productive mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find

    >>>>> Vista to be the very best OS available today and our choice of OS's

    >>>>> is not limited by any financial barriers.

    >>>>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it

    >>>>> at all.

    >>>>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use it?

    >>>>> Which version?

    >>>>> Frank

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to

    >>>> some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>>>

    >>>> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>>>

    >>>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when

    >>>> purchased the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a

    >>>> card they have to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital

    >>>> cable box, I'm paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate the

    >>>> digital cable-tv feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is not

    >>>> accepting the product key supplied (it's in a sticker on the machine..)

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >>>

    >>>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >>>> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >>>> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Typical answer form these places.

    >>>

    >>>>

    >>>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key,

    >>>> but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine,

    >>>> specif. for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product

    >>>> key I have to do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all my

    >>>> data and starting over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to back

    >>>> up AppData folder inside users/<me>/ but when it's done backing it

    >>>> up the one in external HD to where I copied it is much smaller - by

    >>>> a lot - (I mean less GB) than the one on my machine, so I can't do

    >>>> the re-install yet...

    >>>>

    >>>> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >>>> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all over

    >>> the tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware and

    >>> Vista ready drivers.

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the wrong

    >> card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so, because:

    >>

    >> 1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

    >>

    >> 2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot of

    >> "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those things

    >> check fine... it's only when I put product key that things go wrong (I

    >> wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in there..)

    >

    > So you're having trouble with a product key from the cable company. I

    > fail to see the connection with Vista.

     

    Frank, the product key for activating digital cable on Win Media Ctr was

    provided with my machine, it does NOT come from the cable co.. it is

    on a sticker on the machine, right next to the product key for Windows

    Activation

    >> my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the

    >> same problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after

    >> sucessfully convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product key

    >> and stuff, he put me on hold to find out if anybody else had

    >> encountered same problem, when he came back he said, this prob occurs

    >> b/c Vista gets corrupted, you need to re-install...)

    >>

    > Well, did you try a repair install?

     

    hhmmm.. repair install.. not sure what this entails, have to look into

    it, I guess.. but my machine manuf'r recommends a clean re-install...

    >

    >> and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any of

    >> those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT customer

    >> service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they are always

    >> very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to get me off the

    >> phone..)

    >

    > Really?

    >

    > it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    >> machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

    >>

    >> thanks for yr response....

    >

    > If installing a tv card and trying to activate using their key has

    > corrupted Vista I'd make them fix it! That's ridiculous that just doing

    > a product key activation would cause the entire OS to be corrupted.

    > Other than the key not working does the rest of Vista work properly?

     

    again, product key for activation of dig. cable feature in Media Ctr

    does NOT come from cable co, it comes w/the machine, just like the one

    for activating Windows... (and not only this, but researching this

    online I found out I will also need the serial no. for the card the

    cable co. put in there, I don't have it (since the guy had to leave

    after inserting the card b/c I couldn't dig cable feature in Windows..)

    so I don't know if they'll have it on record when I call them and ask

    them for it.. they might have to come and install a different one.. as

    you can see, this is one big huge headache..

     

    there is a screenshot of the sticker here, with the two product keys

    (for Windows activation and for dig. cable activation)

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2959&p=2&cp=3

     

    the one on the RIGHT is the one for digital cable..

    this sticker is on the machine itself.. you will see that it says

    "digital cable support for Windows Vista"

     

    thank you..

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody here

    >>>>>>> takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your motivation

    >>>>>>> for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and it

    >>>>>> is installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the beta.

    >>>>>> We prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in a

    >>>>>> productive mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We find

    >>>>>> Vista to be the very best OS available today and our choice of

    >>>>>> OS's is not limited by any financial barriers.

    >>>>>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it

    >>>>>> at all.

    >>>>>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use

    >>>>>> it? Which version?

    >>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies to

    >>>>> some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when

    >>>>> purchased the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a

    >>>>> card they have to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital

    >>>>> cable box, I'm paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate

    >>>>> the digital cable-tv feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is

    >>>>> not accepting the product key supplied (it's in a sticker on the

    >>>>> machine..)

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >>>>

    >>>>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >>>>> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >>>>> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Typical answer form these places.

    >>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod key,

    >>>>> but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine,

    >>>>> specif. for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product

    >>>>> key I have to do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all

    >>>>> my data and starting over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to

    >>>>> back up AppData folder inside users/<me>/ but when it's done

    >>>>> backing it up the one in external HD to where I copied it is much

    >>>>> smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB) than the one on my machine,

    >>>>> so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >>>>>

    >>>>> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >>>>> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all over

    >>>> the tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware and

    >>>> Vista ready drivers.

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the wrong

    >>> card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so, because:

    >>>

    >>> 1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

    >>>

    >>> 2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot

    >>> of "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those

    >>> things check fine... it's only when I put product key that things go

    >>> wrong (I wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in there..)

    >>

    >>

    >> So you're having trouble with a product key from the cable company. I

    >> fail to see the connection with Vista.

    >

    >

    > Frank, the product key for activating digital cable on Win Media Ctr was

    > provided with my machine, it does NOT come from the cable co.. it is

    > on a sticker on the machine, right next to the product key for Windows

    > Activation

     

    The key is only supplied by OEM's. Our WMC is already activated. No need

    to activate. In fact we don't even have an "activation key". So the key

    is supplied not by MS directly but from the OEM you purchased your

    system from.

    >

    >>> my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the

    >>> same problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after

    >>> sucessfully convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product key

    >>> and stuff, he put me on hold to find out if anybody else had

    >>> encountered same problem, when he came back he said, this prob occurs

    >>> b/c Vista gets corrupted, you need to re-install...)

    >>>

    >> Well, did you try a repair install?

    >

    >

    > hhmmm.. repair install.. not sure what this entails, have to look into

    > it, I guess.. but my machine manuf'r recommends a clean re-install...

    >

    >>

    >>> and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any of

    >>> those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT customer

    >>> service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they are always

    >>> very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to get me off

    >>> the phone..)

    >>

    >>

    >> Really?

    >>

    >> it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    >>

    >>> machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

    >>>

    >>> thanks for yr response....

    >>

    >>

    >> If installing a tv card and trying to activate using their key has

    >> corrupted Vista I'd make them fix it! That's ridiculous that just

    >> doing a product key activation would cause the entire OS to be corrupted.

    >> Other than the key not working does the rest of Vista work properly?

    >

    >

    > again, product key for activation of dig. cable feature in Media Ctr

    > does NOT come from cable co, it comes w/the machine, just like the one

    > for activating Windows... (and not only this, but researching this

    > online I found out I will also need the serial no. for the card the

    > cable co. put in there, I don't have it (since the guy had to leave

    > after inserting the card b/c I couldn't dig cable feature in Windows..)

    > so I don't know if they'll have it on record when I call them and ask

    > them for it.. they might have to come and install a different one.. as

    > you can see, this is one big huge headache..

    >

    > there is a screenshot of the sticker here, with the two product keys

    > (for Windows activation and for dig. cable activation)

    > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2959&p=2&cp=3

    >

    > the one on the RIGHT is the one for digital cable..

    > this sticker is on the machine itself.. you will see that it says

    > "digital cable support for Windows Vista"

     

    It's from your OEM.

    Frank

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    Frank wrote:

    > maya wrote:

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> maya wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody

    >>>>>>>> here takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your

    >>>>>>>> motivation for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and

    >>>>>>> it is installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the

    >>>>>>> beta. We prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in

    >>>>>>> a productive mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We

    >>>>>>> find Vista to be the very best OS available today and our choice

    >>>>>>> of OS's is not limited by any financial barriers.

    >>>>>>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with it

    >>>>>>> at all.

    >>>>>>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use

    >>>>>>> it? Which version?

    >>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies

    >>>>>> to some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when

    >>>>>> purchased the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a

    >>>>>> card they have to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of digital

    >>>>>> cable box, I'm paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't activate

    >>>>>> the digital cable-tv feature in Windows Media Center b/c Vista is

    >>>>>> not accepting the product key supplied (it's in a sticker on the

    >>>>>> machine..)

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >>>>>> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >>>>>> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Typical answer form these places.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod

    >>>>>> key, but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my machine,

    >>>>>> specif. for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting this product

    >>>>>> key I have to do a clean re-install, which means wiping out all

    >>>>>> my data and starting over.. this is a HUGE pain.. I have tried to

    >>>>>> back up AppData folder inside users/<me>/ but when it's done

    >>>>>> backing it up the one in external HD to where I copied it is much

    >>>>>> smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB) than the one on my machine,

    >>>>>> so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >>>>>> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all

    >>>>> over the tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware

    >>>>> and Vista ready drivers.

    >>>>> Frank

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the wrong

    >>>> card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so, because:

    >>>>

    >>>> 1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

    >>>>

    >>>> 2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot

    >>>> of "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those

    >>>> things check fine... it's only when I put product key that things go

    >>>> wrong (I wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in there..)

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> So you're having trouble with a product key from the cable company. I

    >>> fail to see the connection with Vista.

    >>

    >>

    >> Frank, the product key for activating digital cable on Win Media Ctr

    >> was provided with my machine, it does NOT come from the cable co..

    >> it is on a sticker on the machine, right next to the product key for

    >> Windows Activation

    >

    > The key is only supplied by OEM's. Our WMC is already activated. No need

    > to activate. In fact we don't even have an "activation key". So the key

    > is supplied not by MS directly but from the OEM you purchased your

    > system from.

    >

    >>

    >>>> my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the

    >>>> same problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after

    >>>> sucessfully convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product key

    >>>> and stuff, he put me on hold to find out if anybody else had

    >>>> encountered same problem, when he came back he said, this prob

    >>>> occurs b/c Vista gets corrupted, you need to re-install...)

    >>>>

    >>> Well, did you try a repair install?

    >>

    >>

    >> hhmmm.. repair install.. not sure what this entails, have to look into

    >> it, I guess.. but my machine manuf'r recommends a clean re-install...

    >>

    >>>

    >>>> and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any

    >>>> of those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT customer

    >>>> service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they are

    >>>> always very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to get

    >>>> me off the phone..)

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Really?

    >>>

    >>> it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    >>>

    >>>> machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

    >>>>

    >>>> thanks for yr response....

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> If installing a tv card and trying to activate using their key has

    >>> corrupted Vista I'd make them fix it! That's ridiculous that just

    >>> doing a product key activation would cause the entire OS to be

    >>> corrupted.

    >>> Other than the key not working does the rest of Vista work properly?

    >>

    >>

    >> again, product key for activation of dig. cable feature in Media Ctr

    >> does NOT come from cable co, it comes w/the machine, just like the one

    >> for activating Windows... (and not only this, but researching this

    >> online I found out I will also need the serial no. for the card the

    >> cable co. put in there, I don't have it (since the guy had to leave

    >> after inserting the card b/c I couldn't dig cable feature in

    >> Windows..) so I don't know if they'll have it on record when I call

    >> them and ask them for it.. they might have to come and install a

    >> different one.. as you can see, this is one big huge headache..

    >>

    >> there is a screenshot of the sticker here, with the two product keys

    >> (for Windows activation and for dig. cable activation)

    >> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2959&p=2&cp=3

    >>

    >> the one on the RIGHT is the one for digital cable..

    >> this sticker is on the machine itself.. you will see that it says

    >> "digital cable support for Windows Vista"

    >

    > It's from your OEM.

    > Frank

     

    yes, it comes from my OEM, but Vista is not accepting it!!!! (although

    not sure exactly, how this works... I mean I assume the way it works

    is OEM gets it from M$ -- since it's for a M$ product (in this case

    Windows Media Center...))

     

    at any rate my OEM's diagnosis (based on their prior experience w/this

    problem) is that Vista is not accepting it b/c it's gotten corrupted..

     

    thank you..

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    maya wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> maya wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> maya wrote:

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> ...ignorantly stupid childish crap. He's a mac troll.

    >>>>>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I swear you're a child, Frank.. do you really think anybody

    >>>>>>>>> here takes you seriously anymore????

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Everyone is asking that question about you?

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> you still haven't answered my question of what is your

    >>>>>>>>> motivation for so vigorously defending such a terrible product...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> We use Vista Ultimate in our marketing/advertising business and

    >>>>>>>> it is installed on 15 boxes both x32 & x64. We were in on the

    >>>>>>>> beta. We prepared our computers and our staff for using Vista in

    >>>>>>>> a productive mode. We over came any and all initial issues. We

    >>>>>>>> find Vista to be the very best OS available today and our choice

    >>>>>>>> of OS's is not limited by any financial barriers.

    >>>>>>>> I also personally use Vista Ultimate and have no problems with

    >>>>>>>> it at all.

    >>>>>>>> Now what is your problem with Vista? Do you have it or even use

    >>>>>>>> it? Which version?

    >>>>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> ok Frank, now we talking... my problem with Vista (my apologies

    >>>>>>> to some who have read this already, as I have posted this before..)

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I have a few problems, but one GLARING one, which is a HUGE pain:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I have two HD tv tuners in my machine, which I ordered when

    >>>>>>> purchased the machine, so the cable guy came to my house to put a

    >>>>>>> card they have to put in the back of this tuner (equiv. of

    >>>>>>> digital cable box, I'm paying $10/mo. for it..) but now I can't

    >>>>>>> activate the digital cable-tv feature in Windows Media Center b/c

    >>>>>>> Vista is not accepting the product key supplied (it's in a

    >>>>>>> sticker on the machine..)

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Obviously the cable company screwed up. Not Vista.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> folks where I bought my machine said it's b/c Vista has gotten

    >>>>>>> corrupted and I need to re-install it.. (an entire OS that gets

    >>>>>>> corrupted, whoever heard of such a thing...)

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Typical answer form these places.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> now pls note I'm NOT talking about the Windows activation prod

    >>>>>>> key, but another one, a 2nd prouduct key on sticker in my

    >>>>>>> machine, specif. for digital cable TV.. Vista is not accepting

    >>>>>>> this product key I have to do a clean re-install, which means

    >>>>>>> wiping out all my data and starting over.. this is a HUGE pain..

    >>>>>>> I have tried to back up AppData folder inside users/<me>/ but

    >>>>>>> when it's done backing it up the one in external HD to where I

    >>>>>>> copied it is much smaller - by a lot - (I mean less GB) than the

    >>>>>>> one on my machine, so I can't do the re-install yet...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> NOW you know why I'm so pissed frankly Frank, ) if this were

    >>>>>>> happening to you, wouldn't you also be pissed??

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Certainly but not at Vista. What did Vista do wrong? I'd be all

    >>>>>> over the tv people and force them to give me the correct hardware

    >>>>>> and Vista ready drivers.

    >>>>>> Frank

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> "tv people" -- you mean the cable co.?? the cable co. put the

    >>>>> wrong card and that's why I can't activate it? I don't think so,

    >>>>> because:

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 1) I'm sure cable co. knows what cards to insert in machines..

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 2) when I start activation process in Media Ctr it first does a lot

    >>>>> of "detecting that you have correct card.." etc.. and all those

    >>>>> things check fine... it's only when I put product key that things

    >>>>> go wrong (I wouldn't get that far if I had the wrong hardware in

    >>>>> there..)

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> So you're having trouble with a product key from the cable company.

    >>>> I fail to see the connection with Vista.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Frank, the product key for activating digital cable on Win Media Ctr

    >>> was provided with my machine, it does NOT come from the cable co..

    >>> it is on a sticker on the machine, right next to the product key for

    >>> Windows Activation

    >>

    >>

    >> The key is only supplied by OEM's. Our WMC is already activated. No

    >> need to activate. In fact we don't even have an "activation key". So

    >> the key is supplied not by MS directly but from the OEM you purchased

    >> your system from.

    >>

    >>>

    >>>>> my comp manufacturer, they said they have a no. of clients with the

    >>>>> same problem, it was solved by re-installing Vista.. (after

    >>>>> sucessfully convinving the guy I was NOT typing in wrong product

    >>>>> key and stuff, he put me on hold to find out if anybody else had

    >>>>> encountered same problem, when he came back he said, this prob

    >>>>> occurs b/c Vista gets corrupted, you need to re-install...)

    >>>>>

    >>>> Well, did you try a repair install?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> hhmmm.. repair install.. not sure what this entails, have to look

    >>> into it, I guess.. but my machine manuf'r recommends a clean

    >>> re-install...

    >>>

    >>>>

    >>>>> and these guys are great, my machine is not Gateway, Dell, or any

    >>>>> of those, it's much lesser-known brand, they have EXCELLENT

    >>>>> customer service, I know some of the guys there by name now.. they

    >>>>> are always very helpful... they wouldn't just tell me anything to

    >>>>> get me off the phone..)

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Really?

    >>>>

    >>>> it's not a big co. like Dell, etc... they make high-end

    >>>>

    >>>>> machines, extremely fast, they sell mostly to "gamers"....)

    >>>>>

    >>>>> thanks for yr response....

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> If installing a tv card and trying to activate using their key has

    >>>> corrupted Vista I'd make them fix it! That's ridiculous that just

    >>>> doing a product key activation would cause the entire OS to be

    >>>> corrupted.

    >>>> Other than the key not working does the rest of Vista work properly?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> again, product key for activation of dig. cable feature in Media Ctr

    >>> does NOT come from cable co, it comes w/the machine, just like the

    >>> one for activating Windows... (and not only this, but researching

    >>> this online I found out I will also need the serial no. for the card

    >>> the cable co. put in there, I don't have it (since the guy had to

    >>> leave after inserting the card b/c I couldn't dig cable feature in

    >>> Windows..) so I don't know if they'll have it on record when I call

    >>> them and ask them for it.. they might have to come and install a

    >>> different one.. as you can see, this is one big huge headache..

    >>>

    >>> there is a screenshot of the sticker here, with the two product keys

    >>> (for Windows activation and for dig. cable activation)

    >>> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2959&p=2&cp=3

    >>>

    >>> the one on the RIGHT is the one for digital cable..

    >>> this sticker is on the machine itself.. you will see that it says

    >>> "digital cable support for Windows Vista"

    >>

    >>

    >> It's from your OEM.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > yes, it comes from my OEM, but Vista is not accepting it!!!! (although

    > not sure exactly, how this works... I mean I assume the way it works

    > is OEM gets it from M$ -- since it's for a M$ product (in this case

    > Windows Media Center...))

    >

    > at any rate my OEM's diagnosis (based on their prior experience w/this

    > problem) is that Vista is not accepting it b/c it's gotten corrupted..

    >

    > thank you..

    >

    Yeah I hear you but other than WMC, is the rest of Vista working properly?

    Frank

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