It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs. I just wasted fifteen

minutes trying to delete a few thousand files. Using the next to

useless Windows Explorer (I known, silly me) I selected the folder and

said delete it. It started up, after a few seconds instead of showing

it making progress it says moving 0 files with 0 bytes. OK, I think

it's done or almost. After all, how long should it take to just delete

files? Well it wasn't done, it hadn't even started yet. So I wait. And

wait some more. What the heck, I got other things to do, I'll come

back. Five minutes later, stuck on 0 bytes moved. So I click on

Explorer. Bad idea, screen now fades to white, application not

responding, Explorer needs to close message.

 

I start over, well you dumb piece of crap if you're too dumb to delete

a folder, I'll try to select all the files in the folder and delete

them that way. Same thing happens. Starts to pretend it is deleting

files, doesn't really, then again throws up moving 0 files, 0 bytes.

Again Vista says Explorer needs to close.

 

Well screw you Microsoft. just let me shut down Explorer. Can't.

Application hanging, couple minutes later Explorer does close then

proceeds to redrawn my desktop icons. LOL!

 

So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

screwing up. It just works.

 

Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

products or hanging or crashing?

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:l2af93t35c1jqn0satd891jj96v4fohbn2@4ax.com...

> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs. I just wasted fifteen

> minutes trying to delete a few thousand files. Using the next to

> useless Windows Explorer (I known, silly me) I selected the folder and

> said delete it. It started up, after a few seconds instead of showing

> it making progress it says moving 0 files with 0 bytes. OK, I think

> it's done or almost. After all, how long should it take to just delete

> files? Well it wasn't done, it hadn't even started yet. So I wait. And

> wait some more. What the heck, I got other things to do, I'll come

> back. Five minutes later, stuck on 0 bytes moved. So I click on

> Explorer. Bad idea, screen now fades to white, application not

> responding, Explorer needs to close message.

>

> I start over, well you dumb piece of crap if you're too dumb to delete

> a folder, I'll try to select all the files in the folder and delete

> them that way. Same thing happens. Starts to pretend it is deleting

> files, doesn't really, then again throws up moving 0 files, 0 bytes.

> Again Vista says Explorer needs to close.

>

> Well screw you Microsoft. just let me shut down Explorer. Can't.

> Application hanging, couple minutes later Explorer does close then

> proceeds to redrawn my desktop icons. LOL!

>

> So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

> to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

> screwing up. It just works.

>

> Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

> simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

> either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

> products or hanging or crashing?

 

 

Hummm. I don't have that problem. Must not be Vista.

If you're that frustrated with Vista, why not go back to XP? I'm thinking of

the same thing because I just purchased some new software that is having

problems with Vista. Yes, its's a pain to reload XP, but hey, I've loaded

XP so many times, I'm use to it.

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:l2af93t35c1jqn0satd891jj96v4fohbn2@4ax.com...

> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs. I just wasted fifteen

> minutes trying to delete a few thousand files. Using the next to

> useless Windows Explorer (I known, silly me) I selected the folder and

> said delete it. It started up, after a few seconds instead of showing

> it making progress it says moving 0 files with 0 bytes. OK, I think

> it's done or almost. After all, how long should it take to just delete

> files? Well it wasn't done, it hadn't even started yet. So I wait. And

> wait some more. What the heck, I got other things to do, I'll come

> back. Five minutes later, stuck on 0 bytes moved. So I click on

> Explorer. Bad idea, screen now fades to white, application not

> responding, Explorer needs to close message.

>

> I start over, well you dumb piece of crap if you're too dumb to delete

> a folder, I'll try to select all the files in the folder and delete

> them that way. Same thing happens. Starts to pretend it is deleting

> files, doesn't really, then again throws up moving 0 files, 0 bytes.

> Again Vista says Explorer needs to close.

>

> Well screw you Microsoft. just let me shut down Explorer. Can't.

> Application hanging, couple minutes later Explorer does close then

> proceeds to redrawn my desktop icons. LOL!

>

> So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

> to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

> screwing up. It just works.

>

> Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

> simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

> either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

> products or hanging or crashing?

>

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:54:45 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

wrote:

>If you're that frustrated with Vista, why not go back to XP? I'm thinking of

>the same thing because I just purchased some new software that is having

>problems with Vista. Yes, its's a pain to reload XP, but hey, I've loaded

>XP so many times, I'm use to it.

 

That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK. I

can accept NEW features not working in a new version of Windows, I can

accept some new software or new hardware not working correctly until

Microsoft gets off their butt and releases a service pack, but I damn

well refuse to accept something as basic as copying/moving or deleting

files, a core feature of ANY OS to be this badly broken. There simply

is no excuse. BTW, this is far from the first time I've seen this. It

doesn't happen a lot, but enough to be very annoying.

 

Below space reserved for the usual suspects to make the usual excuses

for Microsoft. It seems to be a reflex action for the fanboy crowd.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:51:51 GMT, "Mellowed" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:l2af93t35c1jqn0satd891jj96v4fohbn2@4ax.com...

>> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs. I just wasted fifteen

>> minutes trying to delete a few thousand files. Using the next to

>> useless Windows Explorer (I known, silly me) I selected the folder and

>> said delete it. It started up, after a few seconds instead of showing

>> it making progress it says moving 0 files with 0 bytes. OK, I think

>> it's done or almost. After all, how long should it take to just delete

>> files? Well it wasn't done, it hadn't even started yet. So I wait. And

>> wait some more. What the heck, I got other things to do, I'll come

>> back. Five minutes later, stuck on 0 bytes moved. So I click on

>> Explorer. Bad idea, screen now fades to white, application not

>> responding, Explorer needs to close message.

>>

>> I start over, well you dumb piece of crap if you're too dumb to delete

>> a folder, I'll try to select all the files in the folder and delete

>> them that way. Same thing happens. Starts to pretend it is deleting

>> files, doesn't really, then again throws up moving 0 files, 0 bytes.

>> Again Vista says Explorer needs to close.

>>

>> Well screw you Microsoft. just let me shut down Explorer. Can't.

>> Application hanging, couple minutes later Explorer does close then

>> proceeds to redrawn my desktop icons. LOL!

>>

>> So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

>> to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

>> screwing up. It just works.

>>

>> Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

>> simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

>> either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

>> products or hanging or crashing?

>

>

>Hummm. I don't have that problem. Must not be Vista.

 

Your ignorance is showing.

I agree with you 100%, but I guess after all the releases from Microsoft, we

know that their products don't work as advertised, but should. There is no

excuse to put out sloppy code and if I programmed they way that Microsoft

does, I'd be stocking shelves at Target! I would rather see Microsoft

spend their time making the product right the first time, but they really

don't have any competetion so there is no incentive to do so. It is "Test

In Production"! Unfortunate but true.

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:8fdf9316763ebf4aps24dct9v949rlbuka@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:54:45 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

> wrote:

>

>>If you're that frustrated with Vista, why not go back to XP? I'm thinking

>>of

>>the same thing because I just purchased some new software that is having

>>problems with Vista. Yes, its's a pain to reload XP, but hey, I've loaded

>>XP so many times, I'm use to it.

>

> That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

> been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK. I

> can accept NEW features not working in a new version of Windows, I can

> accept some new software or new hardware not working correctly until

> Microsoft gets off their butt and releases a service pack, but I damn

> well refuse to accept something as basic as copying/moving or deleting

> files, a core feature of ANY OS to be this badly broken. There simply

> is no excuse. BTW, this is far from the first time I've seen this. It

> doesn't happen a lot, but enough to be very annoying.

>

> Below space reserved for the usual suspects to make the usual excuses

> for Microsoft. It seems to be a reflex action for the fanboy crowd.

>

* Adam Albright:

> So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

> to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

> screwing up. It just works.

>

> Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

> simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

> either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

> products or hanging or crashing?

 

Directory Opus is far superior to Windows Explorer...

I gave up a long time ago on Windows Explorer. I sort

of used to put up with Windows Explorer in XP. But, now

Explorer is just pitiful in Vista, and I use Directory Opus

all the time. Even though XP's Windows Explorer wasn't

the most stable, it could at least delete and transfer files

much faster than Vista.

 

 

-Michael

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

news:%23MOGqZXxHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I agree with you 100%, but I guess after all the releases from Microsoft,

>we know that their products don't work as advertised, but should. There is

>no excuse to put out sloppy code and if I programmed they way that

>Microsoft does, I'd be stocking shelves at Target! I would rather see

>Microsoft spend their time making the product right the first time, but

>they really don't have any competetion so there is no incentive to do so.

>It is "Test In Production"! Unfortunate but true.

 

 

 

Lets see. The last time I installed Ubuntu 7.04 (about 3 weeks after it was

released) there were already about 70 updates available for the damned

thing. It wasn't ready for distribution as per your thinking.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:33:24 +0100, ArameFarpado

<a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote:

>Em Sexta, 13 de Julho de 2007 17:46, Adam Albright escreveu:

>

>> I just wasted fifteen

>> minutes trying to delete a few thousand files.

>

>

>this reminds me of a situation i have lived:

>

>i have in work a dvd with authentication keys that we must use regularity,

>normaly the dvd only acessed by a eprom-flash writing program and it does

>it acessing teh dvd in background. one day, while programing a flash, the

>program tells me i don't have the authentication key name xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

>so i took the dvd out and put it on a winxp machine, when i try to view it's

>contents, file explorer crashed... dvd out, killed the crashed explorer,

>dvd in, ooen and crash again.

 

That's a good story. It seems Windows often doesn't see the forest for

the trees.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:51:16 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

wrote:

>I agree with you 100%, but I guess after all the releases from Microsoft, we

>know that their products don't work as advertised, but should. There is no

>excuse to put out sloppy code and if I programmed they way that Microsoft

>does, I'd be stocking shelves at Target! I would rather see Microsoft

>spend their time making the product right the first time, but they really

>don't have any competetion so there is no incentive to do so. It is "Test

>In Production"! Unfortunate but true.

 

I think part of the reason that Windows often doesn't work as expected

is it never is really tested in real world situations. Just to give

people an idea why I was deleting so many files. Sometimes I have a

video that just won't open or if it does it hangs in several places

along the timeline. So one way to get around that is open the video

file in an application like XnView that will automatically convert the

video into a series of still images. So even with just a couple

minutes of video you can end up thousands of still images. You then

import them back into your video editing application (for me, Vegas)

then set the size to correspond to the frame rate the video will play

back at so you get roughly thirty still images a second. Once you do

that you have a clean video file which you can work with.

 

That was what I was doing. So I just tried to delete the thousands of

still images I no longer needed. Obviously Microsoft doesn't test any

of their products very well. They probably tested the copy/move/delete

routine using a handful of files, maybe a hundred or two then they

wrongly concluded, hey this works ok.

 

What Vista has trouble with working on a large volume of files at once

I don't really know or care. Could be it is actually dumb enough to

try to create thumbnails even for files headed for the Recycle Bin,

maybe they run through some DRM routine or do some verification of

file permissions or something else. Whatever is happening it is just

plain stupid and frustrating to users.

 

When you tell the OS you are deleting X number of files it should

dispatch with the job quickly, not scan, not check, nothing but what

it needs to do to simply and quickly move them to the Recycle Bin.

That's what Directory Opus did, easily and quickly.

 

Instead Windows Explorer tries, get bogged down in the process because

of too much overhead, then locks you out, won't let you cancel and you

have to wait on Windows to let the damn thing crash. Not very smart

programming.

Adam Albright wrote:

> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs. I just wasted fifteen

> minutes trying to delete a few thousand files. Using the next to

> useless Windows Explorer (I known, silly me) I selected the folder and

> said delete it. It started up, after a few seconds instead of showing

> it making progress it says moving 0 files with 0 bytes. OK, I think

> it's done or almost. After all, how long should it take to just delete

> files? Well it wasn't done, it hadn't even started yet. So I wait. And

> wait some more. What the heck, I got other things to do, I'll come

> back. Five minutes later, stuck on 0 bytes moved. So I click on

> Explorer. Bad idea, screen now fades to white, application not

> responding, Explorer needs to close message.

>

> I start over, well you dumb piece of crap if you're too dumb to delete

> a folder, I'll try to select all the files in the folder and delete

> them that way. Same thing happens. Starts to pretend it is deleting

> files, doesn't really, then again throws up moving 0 files, 0 bytes.

> Again Vista says Explorer needs to close.

>

> Well screw you Microsoft. just let me shut down Explorer. Can't.

> Application hanging, couple minutes later Explorer does close then

> proceeds to redrawn my desktop icons. LOL!

>

> So I fire up Directory Opus a way better shell. Takes 2 seconds flat

> to delete the folder. One simple click. No nagging, no stalling, no

> screwing up. It just works.

>

> Microsoft how can you stay in business when you can't even write a

> simple routine to delete files without half the time the process

> either taking anywhere from 20 to 50 times longer than competing

> products or hanging or crashing?

 

Vista may be making backups of the things you're trying to delete just in

case you made a mistake.

Richard Urban wrote:

>

>

>

> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

> news:%23MOGqZXxHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I agree with you 100%, but I guess after all the releases from

>> Microsoft, we know that their products don't work as advertised, but

>> should. There is no excuse to put out sloppy code and if I programmed

>> they way that Microsoft does, I'd be stocking shelves at Target! I

>> would rather see Microsoft spend their time making the product right

>> the first time, but they really don't have any competetion so there is

>> no incentive to do so. It is "Test In Production"! Unfortunate but true.

>

>

>

> Lets see. The last time I installed Ubuntu 7.04 (about 3 weeks after it

> was released) there were already about 70 updates available for the

> damned thing. It wasn't ready for distribution as per your thinking.

 

And where in this thread was anything about ubuntu mentioned prior to

you doing so?

--

norm

Em Sexta, 13 de Julho de 2007 22:04, HeyBub escreveu:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

> Vista may be making backups of the things you're trying to delete just in

> case you made a mistake.

 

 

WOW !!!!!

 

So, dumb recycle bin is not enought to vista??

 

 

 

this is absurd, no computer should never desobey his owner, if the guy told

him to delete is because he wants it delete, period!!!

 

computers sould not have opinions of any king, just play good dogs and obey.

 

you know the fiction of matrix and terminator?

i fear going the microsoft are going, one day it would not be fiction any

more...

 

computers should work for us, and we don't want there opinions, neither

there decisions... they are just crap peaces of plastic and metal... tools

and nothing more, and should never go beyond that!

 

one of the reasons windows is so weak with malware is because it obeys

faster to a peace of software other then obeying it's user...

Em Sexta, 13 de Julho de 2007 21:39, Adam Albright escreveu:

>

> That's a good story. It seems Windows often doesn't see the forest for

> the trees.

 

you said "trying to delete a few thousand files" and i though there might be

a connection here...

windows gets wierd when we have large numbers of files in the same folder.

It doesn't. I brought it in.

 

I am just saying that because something needs updates it doesn't mean it is

not ready for distribution - any software product, operating system or

program.

 

--

 

 

Regards,

 

Richard Urban

Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

 

 

"norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message

news:OQK5dHZxHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Richard Urban wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23MOGqZXxHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> I agree with you 100%, but I guess after all the releases from

>>> Microsoft, we know that their products don't work as advertised, but

>>> should. There is no excuse to put out sloppy code and if I programmed

>>> they way that Microsoft does, I'd be stocking shelves at Target! I

>>> would rather see Microsoft spend their time making the product right the

>>> first time, but they really don't have any competetion so there is no

>>> incentive to do so. It is "Test In Production"! Unfortunate but true.

>>

>>

>>

>> Lets see. The last time I installed Ubuntu 7.04 (about 3 weeks after it

>> was released) there were already about 70 updates available for the

>> damned thing. It wasn't ready for distribution as per your thinking.

>

> And where in this thread was anything about ubuntu mentioned prior to you

> doing so?

> --

> norm

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0400, "Richard Urban"

<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>It doesn't. I brought it in.

>

>I am just saying that because something needs updates it doesn't mean it is

>not ready for distribution - any software product, operating system or

>program.

 

That's such a feeble excuse. It isn't like copying/moving/deleting

files is a "new" feature to Windows. Worse, it is a core feature any

OS handles easily... except for Windows of course. Leave it to

Microsoft to mess up something as simple as deleting a group of files.

 

A upgrade which is what Vista is, should build on what was already

working in earlier versions of Windows. For reasons unknown Microsoft

seems to have a bad habit of having features get worse over time.

Classic example is Media Player. When Microsoft first introduced it

Media Player was a no frills little applet that didn't do anything but

play media files. Now it has a lot of bells and whistles but often

crashes trying to do it's main function... play media files. Makes no

sense to me.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:8fdf9316763ebf4aps24dct9v949rlbuka@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:54:45 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

> wrote:

>

>>If you're that frustrated with Vista, why not go back to XP? I'm thinking

>>of

>>the same thing because I just purchased some new software that is having

>>problems with Vista. Yes, its's a pain to reload XP, but hey, I've loaded

>>XP so many times, I'm use to it.

>

> That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

> been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK.

 

This is idiocy!!!! What OS in history has 'worked' with even 80% of

existant hardware on release? Give me ONE!!!

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:dc2g939gba9o0ea6e4ok8i6spfkep4roue@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0400, "Richard Urban"

> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>>It doesn't. I brought it in.

>>

>>I am just saying that because something needs updates it doesn't mean it

>>is

>>not ready for distribution - any software product, operating system or

>>program.

>

> That's such a feeble excuse. It isn't like copying/moving/deleting

> files is a "new" feature to Windows. Worse, it is a core feature any

> OS handles easily... except for Windows of course. Leave it to

> Microsoft to mess up something as simple as deleting a group of files.

>

> A upgrade which is what Vista is, should build on what was already

> working in earlier versions of Windows. For reasons unknown Microsoft

> seems to have a bad habit of having features get worse over time.

> Classic example is Media Player. When Microsoft first introduced it

> Media Player was a no frills little applet that didn't do anything but

> play media files. Now it has a lot of bells and whistles but often

> crashes trying to do it's main function... play media files. Makes no

> sense to me.

>

 

You clearly have an IQ of 80.

Telstar wrote:

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:dc2g939gba9o0ea6e4ok8i6spfkep4roue@4ax.com...

>

>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0400, "Richard Urban"

>><richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>It doesn't. I brought it in.

>>>

>>>I am just saying that because something needs updates it doesn't mean it

>>>is

>>>not ready for distribution - any software product, operating system or

>>>program.

>>

>>That's such a feeble excuse. It isn't like copying/moving/deleting

>>files is a "new" feature to Windows. Worse, it is a core feature any

>>OS handles easily... except for Windows of course. Leave it to

>>Microsoft to mess up something as simple as deleting a group of files.

>>

>>A upgrade which is what Vista is, should build on what was already

>>working in earlier versions of Windows. For reasons unknown Microsoft

>>seems to have a bad habit of having features get worse over time.

>>Classic example is Media Player. When Microsoft first introduced it

>>Media Player was a no frills little applet that didn't do anything but

>>play media files. Now it has a lot of bells and whistles but often

>>crashes trying to do it's main function... play media files. Makes no

>>sense to me.

>>

>

>

> You clearly have an IQ of 80.

>

>

Uhhh...you're being generous! :-)

Frank

In article <l2af93t35c1jqn0satd891jj96v4fohbn2@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs.

 

"Another" reason? What was the first reason?

 

Mike

In article <8fdf9316763ebf4aps24dct9v949rlbuka@4ax.com>,

Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

 

> That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

> been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK.

 

Vista has been around for 21 years? Are you by any chance related to

the guy who claims to have been running XP for 20 years on a 30 year old

computer?

 

Mike

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:13:16 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <l2af93t35c1jqn0satd891jj96v4fohbn2@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>> It just doesn't work. Not even for simple jobs.

>

>"Another" reason? What was the first reason?

>

>Mike

 

You mean the first couple dozen?

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:15:20 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:

>In article <8fdf9316763ebf4aps24dct9v949rlbuka@4ax.com>,

> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>

>

>> That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

>> been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK.

>

>Vista has been around for 21 years?

 

Windows has. Wake up dummy.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:51:37 -0700, "Telstar" <none@none> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:8fdf9316763ebf4aps24dct9v949rlbuka@4ax.com...

>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:54:45 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>If you're that frustrated with Vista, why not go back to XP? I'm thinking

>>>of

>>>the same thing because I just purchased some new software that is having

>>>problems with Vista. Yes, its's a pain to reload XP, but hey, I've loaded

>>>XP so many times, I'm use to it.

>>

>> That isn't the point. You buy something, especially a product that has

>> been around for over 21 years, you expect the damn thing to WORK.

>

>This is idiocy!!!! What OS in history has 'worked' with even 80% of

>existant hardware on release? Give me ONE!!!

 

Copying, moving or deleting files doesn't need anything "new" in the

way of hardware or software. The routine has been around forever. Only

now in Vista did Microsoft royally screw it up. When you hitch your

wagon to morons like Frankie expect to get dumb ed down to his level.

That's your problem.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:52:26 -0700, "Telstar" <none@none> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:dc2g939gba9o0ea6e4ok8i6spfkep4roue@4ax.com...

>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0400, "Richard Urban"

>> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>It doesn't. I brought it in.

>>>

>>>I am just saying that because something needs updates it doesn't mean it

>>>is

>>>not ready for distribution - any software product, operating system or

>>>program.

>>

>> That's such a feeble excuse. It isn't like copying/moving/deleting

>> files is a "new" feature to Windows. Worse, it is a core feature any

>> OS handles easily... except for Windows of course. Leave it to

>> Microsoft to mess up something as simple as deleting a group of files.

>>

>> A upgrade which is what Vista is, should build on what was already

>> working in earlier versions of Windows. For reasons unknown Microsoft

>> seems to have a bad habit of having features get worse over time.

>> Classic example is Media Player. When Microsoft first introduced it

>> Media Player was a no frills little applet that didn't do anything but

>> play media files. Now it has a lot of bells and whistles but often

>> crashes trying to do it's main function... play media files. Makes no

>> sense to me.

>>

>

>You clearly have an IQ of 80.

 

Actually it was tested at 170. Maybe that's why I could afford to

retire in my early 40's which was about 20 years ago. You should be as

smart. -)