alexB wrote:

> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

 

And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But, hell,

I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me a joke

that went something like this:

 

An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner and

the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later. Do you

know why?

> You mangle English

> occasionally,

 

You do it with almost every post.

> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you

> don't seem to use street slang.

 

Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or "an"

yet. Don't know?

> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit

> of a flavor of modernity. On the other hand I haven't been in reading

> your posts too much: not too much interested.

 

IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about. Every

one act surprised!

> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

 

Let's not.

 

Snip.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> alexB wrote:

>

>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>

>

> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But, hell,

> I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me a joke

> that went something like this:

>

> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner and

> the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later. Do you

> know why?

>

>> You mangle English occasionally,

>

>

> You do it with almost every post.

>

>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem to

>> use street slang.

>

>

> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or "an"

> yet. Don't know?

>

>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not too

>> much interested.

>

>

> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about. Every

> one act surprised!

>

>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>

>

> Let's not.

>

> Snip.

>

> Alias

 

So now you're irish and not mexican?

Yeah...right...LOL!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> alexB wrote:

>

>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>

>

> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But, hell,

> I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me a joke

> that went something like this:

>

> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner and

> the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later. Do you

> know why?

>

>> You mangle English occasionally,

>

>

> You do it with almost every post.

>

>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem to

>> use street slang.

>

>

> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or "an"

> yet. Don't know?

>

>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not too

>> much interested.

>

>

> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about. Every

> one act surprised!

>

>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>

>

> Let's not.

>

> Snip.

>

> Alias

 

So now you're irish and not mexican?

Yeah...right...LOL!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> alexB wrote:

>>

>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>

>>

>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me

>> a joke that went something like this:

>>

>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner and

>> the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later. Do

>> you know why?

>>

>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>

>>

>> You do it with almost every post.

>>

>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>> to use street slang.

>>

>>

>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>

>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not too

>>> much interested.

>>

>>

>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>> Every one act surprised!

>>

>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>

>>

>> Let's not.

>>

>> Snip.

>>

>> Alias

>

> So now you're irish and not mexican?

> Yeah...right...LOL!

> Frank

 

You are confused but what else is new?

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> alexB wrote:

>>

>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>

>>

>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me

>> a joke that went something like this:

>>

>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner and

>> the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later. Do

>> you know why?

>>

>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>

>>

>> You do it with almost every post.

>>

>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>> to use street slang.

>>

>>

>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>

>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not too

>>> much interested.

>>

>>

>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>> Every one act surprised!

>>

>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>

>>

>> Let's not.

>>

>> Snip.

>>

>> Alias

>

> So now you're irish and not mexican?

> Yeah...right...LOL!

> Frank

 

You are confused but what else is new?

 

Alias

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>ray wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

>>>>>>>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any

>>>>>>>compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>>That is simply not true!

>>>>>Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>

>>>Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

>>>have.

>>>Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>

>>

>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>> with yours.

>

>

> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

> others mouths.

> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

> response.

> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

 

What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting words

in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not exist.

I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating system

(sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past it is

largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the SP beta,

you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>>ray wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

>>>>>>>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any

>>>>>>>compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>>That is simply not true!

>>>>>Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>

>>>Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

>>>have.

>>>Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>

>>

>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>> with yours.

>

>

> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

> others mouths.

> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

> response.

> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

 

What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting words

in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not exist.

I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating system

(sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past it is

largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the SP beta,

you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:O$efmZpaIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry. You mangle English

>occasionally, I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you

>don't seem to use street slang. I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of

>a flavor of modernity. On the other hand I haven't been in reading your

>posts too much: not too much interested.

>

You are the very last person who could say anything about anyone mangling

English. How would you even know? Most of the English in your posts is

mangled beyond comprehension to the point where you appear to be a robot

using random phrases just to make conversation. I have seen Alias post in

these groups for years and have never noticed any problems with his English.

"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:O$efmZpaIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry. You mangle English

>occasionally, I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you

>don't seem to use street slang. I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of

>a flavor of modernity. On the other hand I haven't been in reading your

>posts too much: not too much interested.

>

You are the very last person who could say anything about anyone mangling

English. How would you even know? Most of the English in your posts is

mangled beyond comprehension to the point where you appear to be a robot

using random phrases just to make conversation. I have seen Alias post in

these groups for years and have never noticed any problems with his English.

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> alexB wrote:

>>>

>>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me

>>> a joke that went something like this:

>>>

>>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner

>>> and the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later.

>>> Do you know why?

>>>

>>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> You do it with almost every post.

>>>

>>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>>> to use street slang.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>>

>>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>>>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not

>>>> too much interested.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>>> Every one act surprised!

>>>

>>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Let's not.

>>>

>>> Snip.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> So now you're irish and not mexican?

>> Yeah...right...LOL!

>> Frank

>

>

> You are confused but what else is new?

>

> Alias

 

 

Not in the least. Either you're a bigot or ashamed of your heritage.

Which is it bozo?

Well...?

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> alexB wrote:

>>>

>>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told me

>>> a joke that went something like this:

>>>

>>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner

>>> and the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus later.

>>> Do you know why?

>>>

>>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> You do it with almost every post.

>>>

>>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>>> to use street slang.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>>

>>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity. On

>>>> the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much: not

>>>> too much interested.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>>> Every one act surprised!

>>>

>>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Let's not.

>>>

>>> Snip.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> So now you're irish and not mexican?

>> Yeah...right...LOL!

>> Frank

>

>

> You are confused but what else is new?

>

> Alias

 

 

Not in the least. Either you're a bigot or ashamed of your heritage.

Which is it bozo?

Well...?

Frank

key.boarder wrote:

>

> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:O$efmZpaIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry. You mangle English

>> occasionally, I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you

>> don't seem to use street slang. I do not mean street-street. Just a

>> bit of a flavor of modernity. On the other hand I haven't been in

>> reading your posts too much: not too much interested.

>>

> You are the very last person who could say anything about anyone

> mangling English. How would you even know? Most of the English in your

> posts is mangled beyond comprehension to the point where you appear to

> be a robot using random phrases just to make conversation. I have seen

> Alias post in these groups for years and have never noticed any problems

> with his English.

 

Yeah the fukkin lying linux loser prides himself in being able to lie in

almost proper English! LOL

Frank

key.boarder wrote:

>

> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:O$efmZpaIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry. You mangle English

>> occasionally, I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you

>> don't seem to use street slang. I do not mean street-street. Just a

>> bit of a flavor of modernity. On the other hand I haven't been in

>> reading your posts too much: not too much interested.

>>

> You are the very last person who could say anything about anyone

> mangling English. How would you even know? Most of the English in your

> posts is mangled beyond comprehension to the point where you appear to

> be a robot using random phrases just to make conversation. I have seen

> Alias post in these groups for years and have never noticed any problems

> with his English.

 

Yeah the fukkin lying linux loser prides himself in being able to lie in

almost proper English! LOL

Frank

ray wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>

>

>>ray wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

>>>>>>>>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any

>>>>>>>>compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>That is simply not true!

>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>

>>>>Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

>>>>have.

>>>>Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>with yours.

>>

>>

>>I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>others mouths.

>>In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>response.

>>Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>

>

> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting words

> in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not exist.

> I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating system

> (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past it is

> largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the SP beta,

> you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

 

 

Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

sneak in the SP1 beta.

Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

Frank

ray wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>

>

>>ray wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>ray wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

>>>>>>>>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any

>>>>>>>>compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>That is simply not true!

>>>>>>Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>

>>>>Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

>>>>have.

>>>>Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>with yours.

>>

>>

>>I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>others mouths.

>>In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>response.

>>Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>

>

> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting words

> in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not exist.

> I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating system

> (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past it is

> largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the SP beta,

> you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

 

 

Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

sneak in the SP1 beta.

Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

Frank

random usb port failure - read the post

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

news:Xns9A3ED7EBB7086thisnthatadelphianet@207.46.248.16...

> "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in

> news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@microsoft.com:

>

>> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista

>> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly

>> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with

>> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg

>> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which

>> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now

>> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental

>> problem????

>

> Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info

> to go on here about your actual problem.

random usb port failure - read the post

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

news:Xns9A3ED7EBB7086thisnthatadelphianet@207.46.248.16...

> "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in

> news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@microsoft.com:

>

>> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista

>> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly

>> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with

>> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg

>> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which

>> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now

>> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental

>> problem????

>

> Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info

> to go on here about your actual problem.

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> alexB wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>>>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told

>>>> me a joke that went something like this:

>>>>

>>>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>>>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner

>>>> and the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus

>>>> later. Do you know why?

>>>>

>>>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You do it with almost every post.

>>>>

>>>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>>>> to use street slang.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>>>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>>>

>>>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity.

>>>>> On the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much:

>>>>> not too much interested.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>>>> Every one act surprised!

>>>>

>>>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Let's not.

>>>>

>>>> Snip.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> So now you're irish and not mexican?

>>> Yeah...right...LOL!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> You are confused but what else is new?

>>

>> Alias

>

>

> Not in the least. Either you're a bigot or ashamed of your heritage.

> Which is it bozo?

> Well...?

> Frank

 

Neither. You are obviously confused if you think I am a Mexican.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> alexB wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I am kind of suspicious of your Irish ancestry.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> And the reason you think I care if you believe me or not is? But,

>>>> hell, I'll play, my grandfather -- who was born in Ireland -- told

>>>> me a joke that went something like this:

>>>>

>>>> An Irishman and a Scotsman were equidistant from two bus stops. The

>>>> Irish one went toward the bus stop that would catch the bus sooner

>>>> and the Scotsman went to the bus stop that would catch the bus

>>>> later. Do you know why?

>>>>

>>>>> You mangle English occasionally,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You do it with almost every post.

>>>>

>>>>> I don't think your language is colloquial enough and you don't seem

>>>>> to use street slang.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Try me. You still haven't answered as to when one should use "a" or

>>>> "an" yet. Don't know?

>>>>

>>>>> I do not mean street-street. Just a bit of a flavor of modernity.

>>>>> On the other hand I haven't been in reading your posts too much:

>>>>> not too much interested.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> IOW, you are commenting on something your know very little about.

>>>> Every one act surprised!

>>>>

>>>>> OK, it's to go back to the first question.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Let's not.

>>>>

>>>> Snip.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> So now you're irish and not mexican?

>>> Yeah...right...LOL!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> You are confused but what else is new?

>>

>> Alias

>

>

> Not in the least. Either you're a bigot or ashamed of your heritage.

> Which is it bozo?

> Well...?

> Frank

 

Neither. You are obviously confused if you think I am a Mexican.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>> ray wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>>> takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>> consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>> converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>> provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>> made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>> printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>> feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover

>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>> view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there

>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>> months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>> it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>>> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That is simply not true!

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>>

>>>>> Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most

>>>>> people

>>>>> have.

>>>>> Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>> and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>> with yours.

>>>

>>>

>>> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>> others mouths.

>>> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>> response.

>>> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>>

>>

>> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting

>> words in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does

>> not exist. I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer

>> operating system (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have

>> gotten past it is largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the

>> reports on the SP beta, you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

>

>

> Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

> sneak in the SP1 beta.

> Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

> Frank

 

I don't hate Microsoft but it makes you wonder why so many do. I don't

hate anything except hatred.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>

>>

>>> ray wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>>>>>>>>> takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>> consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>> converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>> provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>> made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>> printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>> feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover

>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>> view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there

>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>> months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>> it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

>>>>>>>> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That is simply not true!

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>>

>>>>> Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most

>>>>> people

>>>>> have.

>>>>> Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>> and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>> with yours.

>>>

>>>

>>> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>> others mouths.

>>> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>> response.

>>> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>>

>>

>> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting

>> words in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does

>> not exist. I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer

>> operating system (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have

>> gotten past it is largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the

>> reports on the SP beta, you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

>

>

> Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

> sneak in the SP1 beta.

> Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

> Frank

 

I don't hate Microsoft but it makes you wonder why so many do. I don't

hate anything except hatred.

 

Alias

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fojv6k$9v7$1@aioe.org...

> Frank wrote:

>> ray wrote:

>>

>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost

>>>>>>>>>> everything

>>>>>>>>>> takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>>> consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>>> converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>>> provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>>> made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>>> printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>>> feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover

>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>>> view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there

>>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>>> months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>>> it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off

>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> That is simply not true!

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most

>>>>>> people

>>>>>> have.

>>>>>> Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>>> and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>>> with yours.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>>> others mouths.

>>>> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>>> response.

>>>> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>>>

>>>

>>> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting

>>> words in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not

>>> exist. I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating

>>> system (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past

>>> it is largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the

>>> SP beta, you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

>>

>>

>> Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

>> sneak in the SP1 beta.

>> Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

>> Frank

>

> I don't hate Microsoft but it makes you wonder why so many do. I don't

> hate anything except hatred.

>

> Alias

 

 

It starts with the premise that only beautiful people will be successful.

Bill Gates flies in the face of that. Even if he wears the same as Steve

Jobs, Steve is seen as cool, Bill is seen as the ultimate nerd.

 

Add the factor of Bill G being the richest guy around. Totally unfair

because he is the ultimate nerd. It doesn't matter that he does more for the

lower echelons than the entire US Gov't.

 

He is the culmination of the American Dream, but he is the ultimate nerd. If

it wasn't for Bill G, everybody else would be successful - NOT..

 

Ultimate nerds are not supposed to be successful apparently..

 

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fojv6k$9v7$1@aioe.org...

> Frank wrote:

>> ray wrote:

>>

>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:38:45 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:31:05 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> ray wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost

>>>>>>>>>> everything

>>>>>>>>>> takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

>>>>>>>>>> consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of

>>>>>>>>>> converting my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will

>>>>>>>>>> provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles that have

>>>>>>>>>> made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

>>>>>>>>>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the

>>>>>>>>>> printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only

>>>>>>>>>> feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover

>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental

>>>>>>>>>> view of Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there

>>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6

>>>>>>>>>> months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that

>>>>>>>>> it will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off

>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> That is simply not true!

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What's not true? That I have an opinion?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most

>>>>>> people

>>>>>> have.

>>>>>> Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS

>>>>>> and no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling. Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I see. So everyone is welcome to have an opinion as long as it agrees

>>>>> with yours.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I've noticed that when you get cornered you try and put words into

>>>> others mouths.

>>>> In this case you'll notice I didn't say anything even close to your

>>>> response.

>>>> Maybe you should try some other tactic in order to win...? Frank

>>>

>>>

>>> What tactic? You refuse to READ what I post - you're always putting

>>> words in my mouth and accusing me of prejudice and hatred that does not

>>> exist. I do not either "love" or "hate" MS - it is a computer operating

>>> system (sort of) - an inanimate object. The fact that I have gotten past

>>> it is largely irrelevant. If you would read some of the reports on the

>>> SP beta, you'd see that what I said is entirely true.

>>

>>

>> Nice try...but no cigar. The op was referring to SP1 RTM...you tried to

>> sneak in the SP1 beta.

>> Why try to hide your MS hatred ray...you carry it around like red flag.

>> Frank

>

> I don't hate Microsoft but it makes you wonder why so many do. I don't

> hate anything except hatred.

>

> Alias

 

 

It starts with the premise that only beautiful people will be successful.

Bill Gates flies in the face of that. Even if he wears the same as Steve

Jobs, Steve is seen as cool, Bill is seen as the ultimate nerd.

 

Add the factor of Bill G being the richest guy around. Totally unfair

because he is the ultimate nerd. It doesn't matter that he does more for the

lower echelons than the entire US Gov't.

 

He is the culmination of the American Dream, but he is the ultimate nerd. If

it wasn't for Bill G, everybody else would be successful - NOT..

 

Ultimate nerds are not supposed to be successful apparently..

 

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

> He is the culmination of the American Dream, but he is the ultimate

> nerd. If it wasn't for Bill G, everybody else would be successful - NOT..

>

> Ultimate nerds are not supposed to be successful apparently..

 

I guess Mr. Gates is just very good in common senses. :)

 

--

@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.

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> He is the culmination of the American Dream, but he is the ultimate

> nerd. If it wasn't for Bill G, everybody else would be successful - NOT..

>

> Ultimate nerds are not supposed to be successful apparently..

 

I guess Mr. Gates is just very good in common senses. :)

 

--

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