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Alias wrote:

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

>>>>

>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and who

>>> are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

>

>

> Yawn, Windows is older.

>

>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

>>

>

> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

>

> 1. Watch DVDs

> 2. Receive and send faxes

> 3. Print

> 4. Scan

> 5. Upload photos from my camera

> 6. Email

> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

> 8. IM

> 9. Edit web pages

> 10. Surf the Net

> 11. Newsgroups

> 12. Calendar

> 13. Calculator

> 14. Word processing

> 15. Spread sheets

> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

> 17. Data base

> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

>

> And much more.

>

> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD up

> for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

>

> Live with it.

>

> Alias

 

Fukkin liar!

Frank

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >

    >> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>

    >>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>

    >>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>

    >>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and who

    >>>> are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>

    >>>> Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>

    >>

    >> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>

    >>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>

    >>

    >> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>

    >> 1. Watch DVDs

    >> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >> 3. Print

    >> 4. Scan

    >> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >> 6. Email

    >> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >> 8. IM

    >> 9. Edit web pages

    >> 10. Surf the Net

    >> 11. Newsgroups

    >> 12. Calendar

    >> 13. Calculator

    >> 14. Word processing

    >> 15. Spread sheets

    >> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >> 17. Data base

    >> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>

    >> And much more.

    >>

    >> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>

    >> Live with it.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > Fukkin liar!

    > Frank

     

    LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

     

    I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    type of license scam that Microsoft does.

     

    Alias

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >

    >> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>

    >>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>

    >>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>

    >>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and who

    >>>> are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>

    >>>> Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>

    >>

    >> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>

    >>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>

    >>

    >> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>

    >> 1. Watch DVDs

    >> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >> 3. Print

    >> 4. Scan

    >> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >> 6. Email

    >> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >> 8. IM

    >> 9. Edit web pages

    >> 10. Surf the Net

    >> 11. Newsgroups

    >> 12. Calendar

    >> 13. Calculator

    >> 14. Word processing

    >> 15. Spread sheets

    >> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >> 17. Data base

    >> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>

    >> And much more.

    >>

    >> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>

    >> Live with it.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    > Fukkin liar!

    > Frank

     

    LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

     

    I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    type of license scam that Microsoft does.

     

    Alias

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    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>

    >>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>

    >>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>

    >>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>> 3. Print

    >>> 4. Scan

    >>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>> 6. Email

    >>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>> 8. IM

    >>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>> 12. Calendar

    >>> 13. Calculator

    >>> 14. Word processing

    >>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>> 17. Data base

    >>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>

    >>> And much more.

    >>>

    >>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >>> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>

    >>> Live with it.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> Fukkin liar!

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >

    > I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    > type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >

    > Alias

     

     

    LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    will not run any of the most popular and most used software available today.

    You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    then you are also a cheat and a thief. Therefore you have to avoid

    WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    Frank

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    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>

    >>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>

    >>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>

    >>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>> 3. Print

    >>> 4. Scan

    >>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>> 6. Email

    >>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>> 8. IM

    >>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>> 12. Calendar

    >>> 13. Calculator

    >>> 14. Word processing

    >>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>> 17. Data base

    >>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>

    >>> And much more.

    >>>

    >>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >>> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>

    >>> Live with it.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> Fukkin liar!

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >

    > I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    > type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >

    > Alias

     

     

    LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    will not run any of the most popular and most used software available today.

    You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    then you are also a cheat and a thief. Therefore you have to avoid

    WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    Frank

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    On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

    >>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting

    >>>my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to

    >>>this and a myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to

    >>>Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be

    >>>reinstalled every time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had

    >>>that printer. The only feature that I might miss is the window preview

    >>>when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's not nearly

    >>>enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >> will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >

    > That is simply not true!

    > Frank

     

    What's not true? That I have an opinion?

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    On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

    >>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting

    >>>my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to

    >>>this and a myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to

    >>>Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be

    >>>reinstalled every time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had

    >>>that printer. The only feature that I might miss is the window preview

    >>>when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's not nearly

    >>>enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >> will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >

    > That is simply not true!

    > Frank

     

    What's not true? That I have an opinion?

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> Alias wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to

    >>>>>> install Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating

    >>>>>> systems.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>

    >>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do

    >>>>> real work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>

    >>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>> 3. Print

    >>>> 4. Scan

    >>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>> 6. Email

    >>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>> 8. IM

    >>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>> 17. Data base

    >>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>

    >>>> And much more.

    >>>>

    >>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your

    >>>> FUD up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>

    >>>> Live with it.

    >>>>

    >>>> Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Fukkin liar!

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>

    >> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    >

    > LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    > will not run any of the most popular and most used software available

    > today.

     

    Not true for most users. Oops.

    > You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

     

    Not true. Oops.

    > then you are also a cheat and a thief.

     

    Not true. Oops.

    > Therefore you have to avoid

    > WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

     

    All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

    > Now try lying your way out of those facts.

     

    They're not facts.

    > You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    > Frank

     

    I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    Alias

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    Frank wrote:

    > Alias wrote:

    >> Frank wrote:

    >>

    >>> Alias wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to

    >>>>>> install Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating

    >>>>>> systems.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>

    >>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do

    >>>>> real work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>

    >>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>> 3. Print

    >>>> 4. Scan

    >>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>> 6. Email

    >>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>> 8. IM

    >>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>> 17. Data base

    >>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>

    >>>> And much more.

    >>>>

    >>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your

    >>>> FUD up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>

    >>>> Live with it.

    >>>>

    >>>> Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Fukkin liar!

    >>> Frank

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>

    >> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    >

    > LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    > will not run any of the most popular and most used software available

    > today.

     

    Not true for most users. Oops.

    > You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

     

    Not true. Oops.

    > then you are also a cheat and a thief.

     

    Not true. Oops.

    > Therefore you have to avoid

    > WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

     

    All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

    > Now try lying your way out of those facts.

     

    They're not facts.

    > You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    > Frank

     

    I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    Alias

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    "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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    > Frank wrote:

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Alias wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and who

    >>>>>>> are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>>>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>>>>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>>> 3. Print

    >>>>> 4. Scan

    >>>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>>> 6. Email

    >>>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>>> 8. IM

    >>>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>>> 17. Data base

    >>>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>>

    >>>>> And much more.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >>>>> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Live with it.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Fukkin liar!

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>>

    >>> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >>> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    >> will not run any of the most popular and most used software available

    >> today.

    >

    > Not true for most users. Oops.

    >

    Wrong. He said the most popular. The most popular refers to the Windows

    environment where millions of users use Windows Office. That is more

    popular than OpenOffice which is popular on Linux/Ubuntu and even Windows.

    The most popular is on Windows. Oops. You have your blinders on again.

     

    >> You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    Maybe you haven't admitted that you are a liar, but you are the Boil on the

    Ass of the Vista.General group.

    >

    >> then you are also a cheat and a thief.

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    You might not be a theif but you certainly don't like to pay for software.

    Ubuntu is right up your alley along with OpenSores software. Perfect for

    you.

    >

    >> Therefore you have to avoid WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    >

    > All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

    >

    >> Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    >

    > They're not facts.

    >

    >> You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    >> Frank

    >

    > I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    Maybe you should project yourself over to the Ubuntu group. You just might

    not become a pain-in-the-ass over there.

     

    Just FYI

    >

    > Alias

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    "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    news:%23$g$l8naIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

    > Frank wrote:

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Alias wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and who

    >>>>>>> are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to install

    >>>>>>> Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of operating systems.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like - surfing

    >>>>>> and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need to do real

    >>>>>> work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>>> 3. Print

    >>>>> 4. Scan

    >>>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>>> 6. Email

    >>>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>>> 8. IM

    >>>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>>> 17. Data base

    >>>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>>

    >>>>> And much more.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your FUD

    >>>>> up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Live with it.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Fukkin liar!

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>>

    >>> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >>> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that urbuttoo

    >> will not run any of the most popular and most used software available

    >> today.

    >

    > Not true for most users. Oops.

    >

    Wrong. He said the most popular. The most popular refers to the Windows

    environment where millions of users use Windows Office. That is more

    popular than OpenOffice which is popular on Linux/Ubuntu and even Windows.

    The most popular is on Windows. Oops. You have your blinders on again.

     

    >> You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    Maybe you haven't admitted that you are a liar, but you are the Boil on the

    Ass of the Vista.General group.

    >

    >> then you are also a cheat and a thief.

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    You might not be a theif but you certainly don't like to pay for software.

    Ubuntu is right up your alley along with OpenSores software. Perfect for

    you.

    >

    >> Therefore you have to avoid WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    >

    > All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

    >

    >> Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    >

    > They're not facts.

    >

    >> You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    >> Frank

    >

    > I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    Maybe you should project yourself over to the Ubuntu group. You just might

    not become a pain-in-the-ass over there.

     

    Just FYI

    >

    > Alias

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    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Alias wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to

    >>>>>>> install Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of

    >>>>>>> operating systems.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like -

    >>>>>> surfing and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need

    >>>>>> to do real work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>>> 3. Print

    >>>>> 4. Scan

    >>>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>>> 6. Email

    >>>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>>> 8. IM

    >>>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>>> 17. Data base

    >>>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>>

    >>>>> And much more.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your

    >>>>> FUD up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Live with it.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Fukkin liar!

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>>

    >>> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >>> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that

    >> urbuttoo will not run any of the most popular and most used software

    >> available today.

    >

    >

    > Not true for most users. Oops.

     

    Really true for most all users.

    Big oops!!!

    >

    >> You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    >

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    True and we all know it.

    Another big oops!!!

    >

    >> then you are also a cheat and a thief.

    >

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    Absolutely true...we all know it so stop lying to yourself.

    Biggest oops!!!

    >

    >> Therefore you have to avoid WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    >

    >

    > All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

     

    Sure...oops!

    >

    >> Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    >

    >

    > They're not facts.

     

    Of course they are. You know it and we all know it.

    Oops!

    >

    >> You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    You really are stupid aren't you...LOL!

    Loser.

    Frank

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    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >> Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>> Frank wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> Alias wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:OKMDbZnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>>> news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Not according to the dozens of people I've told about Ubuntu and

    >>>>>>> who are now happily running it. Face it, you're too dumb to

    >>>>>>> install Ubuntu and should stick with Windows, the AOL of

    >>>>>>> operating systems.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Wrong Mr. Numbnuts. I know what Ubuntu is and it is 10 year old

    >>>>>> technology and not ready for prime time and a wanna be OS.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Yawn, Windows is older.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> You love it because it does the few things that you like -

    >>>>>> surfing and trolling. For you it is heaven. For people who need

    >>>>>> to do real work, a Windows or Mac solution is better.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I do a lot more than that with Ubuntu like

    >>>>>

    >>>>> 1. Watch DVDs

    >>>>> 2. Receive and send faxes

    >>>>> 3. Print

    >>>>> 4. Scan

    >>>>> 5. Upload photos from my camera

    >>>>> 6. Email

    >>>>> 7. Use GIMP to edit photos

    >>>>> 8. IM

    >>>>> 9. Edit web pages

    >>>>> 10. Surf the Net

    >>>>> 11. Newsgroups

    >>>>> 12. Calendar

    >>>>> 13. Calculator

    >>>>> 14. Word processing

    >>>>> 15. Spread sheets

    >>>>> 16. Powerpoint type presentations.

    >>>>> 17. Data base

    >>>>> 18. Record songs off Internet radio

    >>>>>

    >>>>> And much more.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> So, your FUD is just that, FUD, and I will continue to clear your

    >>>>> FUD up for the good folks that read this newsgroup.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Live with it.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Fukkin liar!

    >>>> Frank

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> LOL! Speaking of "denial" ...

    >>>

    >>> I forgot to add that Ubuntu doesn't do WPA, WGA or participate in the

    >>> type of license scam that Microsoft does.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> LOL! Speaking of "denial"...you forgot to mention the fact that

    >> urbuttoo will not run any of the most popular and most used software

    >> available today.

    >

    >

    > Not true for most users. Oops.

     

    Really true for most all users.

    Big oops!!!

    >

    >> You also forgot to mention that since you are a known and admitted liar

    >

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    True and we all know it.

    Another big oops!!!

    >

    >> then you are also a cheat and a thief.

    >

    >

    > Not true. Oops.

     

    Absolutely true...we all know it so stop lying to yourself.

    Biggest oops!!!

    >

    >> Therefore you have to avoid WPA/WGA otherwise you'd get caught stealing!

    >

    >

    > All the software that requires payment that I have are paid for. Oops.

     

    Sure...oops!

    >

    >> Now try lying your way out of those facts.

    >

    >

    > They're not facts.

     

    Of course they are. You know it and we all know it.

    Oops!

    >

    >> You are just stupid...plain and simple.

    >> Frank

    >

    >

    > I've told you many times that projecting doesn't cut it, Frank.

     

    You really are stupid aren't you...LOL!

    Loser.

    Frank

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    ray wrote:

    > On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

    >

    >

    >>ray wrote:

    >>

    >>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

    >>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting

    >>>>my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to

    >>>>this and a myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to

    >>>>Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be

    >>>>reinstalled every time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had

    >>>>that printer. The only feature that I might miss is the window preview

    >>>>when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's not nearly

    >>>>enough to continue.

    >>>>

    >>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>>>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>>>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>>>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >>>will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >>

    >>That is simply not true!

    >>Frank

    >

    >

    > What's not true? That I have an opinion?

     

    Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

    have.

    Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS and

    no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling.

    Frank

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    ray wrote:

    > On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:46 -0800, Frank wrote:

    >

    >

    >>ray wrote:

    >>

    >>>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>>>takes 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even

    >>>>consistently synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting

    >>>>my license to XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to

    >>>>this and a myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to

    >>>>Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be

    >>>>reinstalled every time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had

    >>>>that printer. The only feature that I might miss is the window preview

    >>>>when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's not nearly

    >>>>enough to continue.

    >>>>

    >>>>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>>>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>>>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>>>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >>>will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >>>something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >>

    >>That is simply not true!

    >>Frank

    >

    >

    > What's not true? That I have an opinion?

     

    Well having a opinion based on actual product usage is what most people

    have.

    Having an opinion like you do based on your prejudicial hatred of MS and

    no actual usage is just FUD spreading and trolling.

    Frank

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    Inga Binga wrote:

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

    I think you might as well stay and see how SP 1 goes. Here is a

    review, it seems like a mixed bag with some improvements and other

    problems remain.

     

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142233-page,1-c,vistalonghorn/article.html

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    Inga Binga wrote:

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

    I think you might as well stay and see how SP 1 goes. Here is a

    review, it seems like a mixed bag with some improvements and other

    problems remain.

     

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142233-page,1-c,vistalonghorn/article.html

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    And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista work?

    For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly good HP

    Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with Vista. I have also

    lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg expensive Adobe 6.0). There is

    literally nothing in Vista which justifies this outlay in new hardware and

    software - and you are now suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic

    fundamental problem????

     

     

     

    "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

    news:uU0F1QnaIHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    > Make sure there are such files in this folder:

    >

    > Directory of C:\Windows\Inf

    > angelusb.inf angelusb.PNF

    > irstusb.inf irstusb.PNF

    > stusb2ir.inf stusb2ir.PNF

    > usb.inf usb.PNF

    > usbccid.inf usbccid.PNF

    > usbcir.inf usbcir.PNF

    > usbport.inf usbport.PNF

    > usbprint.inf usbprint.PNF

    > usbstor.inf usbstor.PNF

    > usbvideo.inf usbvideo.PNF

    > wceusbsh.inf wceusbsh.PNF

    > wdma_usb.inf wdma_usb.PNF

    > winusb.inf winusb.PNF

    > 26 File(s) 1,113,306 bytes

    > 3 Dir(s) 53,645,410,304 bytes free

    > [usbhub]

    >

    > Make sure there are such drivers:

    > Directory Windows\System32\drivers\

    > usb8023.sys USBAUDIO.sys

    > USBCAMD.sys USBCAMD2.sys

    > usbccgp.sys usbcir.sys

    > usbd.sys usbehci.sys

    > usbhub.sys usbohci.sys

    > usbport.sys usbprint.sys

    > USBSTOR.SYS usbuhci.sys

    > 14 File(s) 857,472 bytes

    >

    > In one of my Vistas 6 files were missing in the first directory and one

    > driver in second.

    >

    > Although I fixed that it did not resolve the story completely. I had this

    > problem for many years in XP and then in Vista.

    >

    > What I ended up doing after a person from another forum suggested me to do

    > was to purchase a Belkin Internal 5-Port USB PCI card. He purchased

    > Belkin's. I did not quite trust the maker but went for his pointer. It

    > resolved the eissue completely. I removed a firewire PCI card in the back

    > that I never used and plugged in Belkin. It isntalled itself and I've

    > never had any problems since.

    >

    > This card and similar cards by other makers allow for the 5-th USB port to

    > be engaged. It is not exposed to the elements. It faces the internals of

    > the computer. However, if you have a floppy you do not need you can buy

    > another External USB card (not PCI) and mount it up front ripping off the

    > floppy drive. Thus you will have 8 fully functional USB ports and they

    > will all work.

    >

    > I did it on 2 machines so far. I do not need to use the 5th, internal

    > port. I now have plenty.

    > "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message

    > news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-1889D4041C39@microsoft.com...

    >>I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB

    >>drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to

    >>fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and

    >>reinstalling everything on XP.

    >>

    >> I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't

    >> want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one

    >> of their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I

    >> fear that I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

    >>

    >> It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

    >

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    And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista work?

    For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly good HP

    Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with Vista. I have also

    lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg expensive Adobe 6.0). There is

    literally nothing in Vista which justifies this outlay in new hardware and

    software - and you are now suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic

    fundamental problem????

     

     

     

    "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

    news:uU0F1QnaIHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    > Make sure there are such files in this folder:

    >

    > Directory of C:\Windows\Inf

    > angelusb.inf angelusb.PNF

    > irstusb.inf irstusb.PNF

    > stusb2ir.inf stusb2ir.PNF

    > usb.inf usb.PNF

    > usbccid.inf usbccid.PNF

    > usbcir.inf usbcir.PNF

    > usbport.inf usbport.PNF

    > usbprint.inf usbprint.PNF

    > usbstor.inf usbstor.PNF

    > usbvideo.inf usbvideo.PNF

    > wceusbsh.inf wceusbsh.PNF

    > wdma_usb.inf wdma_usb.PNF

    > winusb.inf winusb.PNF

    > 26 File(s) 1,113,306 bytes

    > 3 Dir(s) 53,645,410,304 bytes free

    > [usbhub]

    >

    > Make sure there are such drivers:

    > Directory Windows\System32\drivers\

    > usb8023.sys USBAUDIO.sys

    > USBCAMD.sys USBCAMD2.sys

    > usbccgp.sys usbcir.sys

    > usbd.sys usbehci.sys

    > usbhub.sys usbohci.sys

    > usbport.sys usbprint.sys

    > USBSTOR.SYS usbuhci.sys

    > 14 File(s) 857,472 bytes

    >

    > In one of my Vistas 6 files were missing in the first directory and one

    > driver in second.

    >

    > Although I fixed that it did not resolve the story completely. I had this

    > problem for many years in XP and then in Vista.

    >

    > What I ended up doing after a person from another forum suggested me to do

    > was to purchase a Belkin Internal 5-Port USB PCI card. He purchased

    > Belkin's. I did not quite trust the maker but went for his pointer. It

    > resolved the eissue completely. I removed a firewire PCI card in the back

    > that I never used and plugged in Belkin. It isntalled itself and I've

    > never had any problems since.

    >

    > This card and similar cards by other makers allow for the 5-th USB port to

    > be engaged. It is not exposed to the elements. It faces the internals of

    > the computer. However, if you have a floppy you do not need you can buy

    > another External USB card (not PCI) and mount it up front ripping off the

    > floppy drive. Thus you will have 8 fully functional USB ports and they

    > will all work.

    >

    > I did it on 2 machines so far. I do not need to use the 5th, internal

    > port. I now have plenty.

    > "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message

    > news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-1889D4041C39@microsoft.com...

    >>I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB

    >>drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to

    >>fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and

    >>reinstalling everything on XP.

    >>

    >> I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't

    >> want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one

    >> of their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I

    >> fear that I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

    >>

    >> It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

    >

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    Thanks Kerry,

    Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept

    to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.

     

    Thanks

     

    "Kerry Brown" wrote:

    > After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and

    > was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying

    > this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be

    > Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just

    > do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a

    > BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have

    > problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.

    > SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of

    > Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If

    > you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so

    > it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.

    >

    > --

    > Kerry Brown

    > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

    > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

    >

    >

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > > 10

    > > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > > with

    > > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > > I'm

    > > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > > hassles

    > > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > > miss

    > > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > > that's

    > > not nearly enough to continue.

    > >

    > > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > > to

    > > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    > >

    > >

    >

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    Thanks Kerry,

    Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept

    to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.

     

    Thanks

     

    "Kerry Brown" wrote:

    > After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and

    > was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying

    > this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be

    > Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just

    > do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a

    > BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have

    > problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.

    > SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of

    > Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If

    > you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so

    > it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.

    >

    > --

    > Kerry Brown

    > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

    > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

    >

    >

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > > 10

    > > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > > with

    > > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > > I'm

    > > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > > hassles

    > > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > > miss

    > > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > > that's

    > > not nearly enough to continue.

    > >

    > > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > > to

    > > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    > >

    > >

    >

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    "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in

    news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@microsoft.com:

    > And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista

    > work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly

    > good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with

    > Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg

    > expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which

    > justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now

    > suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental

    > problem????

     

    Yes, he is. That is the MS way.

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    "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in

    news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@microsoft.com:

    > And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista

    > work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly

    > good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with

    > Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg

    > expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which

    > justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now

    > suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental

    > problem????

     

    Yes, he is. That is the MS way.

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    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    > Thanks Kerry,

    > Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept

    > to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.

    >

    That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on new

    gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....

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    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    > Thanks Kerry,

    > Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept

    > to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.

    >

    That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on new

    gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....

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