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I would also like to say that I find Vista 64 bit very slow, it takes about

10 mins to sort itself out when rebooted, whereas my xp machine is far ore

responsive & quicker

"Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hi DP,

> The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with

> several

> devices.

>

> And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled

> a

> Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money

> wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I

> shall indeed depart these august surroundings.

>

> "DP" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

>> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

>> > takes

>> > 10

>> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

>> > with

>> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

>> > I'm

>> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

>> > hassles

>> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of

>> > my

>> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer

>> > on

>> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

>> > miss

>> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

>> > that's

>> > not nearly enough to continue.

>> >

>> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

>> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

>> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in

>> > 3

>> > to

>> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

>>

>>

>> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.

>> My installation works fine.

>> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come

>> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the

>> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again

>> and

>> again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware issue?

>>

>>

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    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

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    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

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    On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    > synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    > XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    > myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    > painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    > time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    > only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    > an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    > reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    > I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

     

    I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

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    On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    > synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    > XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    > myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    > painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    > time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    > only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    > an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    > reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    > I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

     

    I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

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    ray wrote:

    > On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >

    >

    >>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    >>XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    >>myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    >>painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    >>time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    >>only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    >>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

    > I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    > will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    > something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

     

    That is simply not true!

    Frank

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    ray wrote:

    > On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >

    >

    >>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    >>XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    >>myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    >>painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    >>time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    >>only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    >>an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

    > I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    > will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    > something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

     

    That is simply not true!

    Frank

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    Bill Yanaire lied and wrote:

    > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    > news:fohuo3119es@news2.newsguy.com...

    >> Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> synch

    >>> with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >>> and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of

    >>> other hassles

    >>> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >>> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >>> miss is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar

    >>> and

    >>> that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >>> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >>> to 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >> There is NO compelling reason to wait for SP1 or to wait for SP5 for that

    >> matter when you can be running a real operating system NOW. Don't even

    >> think about converting to XP Pro. That's old news, an old o/s that ain't

    >> going anywhere. Go with Linux, it is the future.

    >>

    >> http://www.ubuntu.com

    >>

    >> Cheers.

    >

    > Yea, Linux is the future in about 20 years.

     

    No, now.

    > Right now it is for geeks who

    > want to tinker and play with their computers.

     

    False FUD.

    > IF they want to get real work

    > done, use a Windows or Macintosh solution.

     

    Sure, pull the other one, it has WGA on it.

    >

    > For servers, Linux is more stable than Windows, but we are mostly talking

    > desktop here.

     

    You're mostly talking out your ass.

    >

    > Oh yea, Just FYI.

     

    How original.

     

    Alias

    >

    >> --

    >> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>

    >> AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator

    >> and type lusrmgr.msc."

    >> ^^^^^

    >> I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

    >

    >

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    Bill Yanaire lied and wrote:

    > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    > news:fohuo3119es@news2.newsguy.com...

    >> Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> synch

    >>> with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >>> and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of

    >>> other hassles

    >>> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >>> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >>> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >>> miss is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar

    >>> and

    >>> that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >>> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >>> to 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >> There is NO compelling reason to wait for SP1 or to wait for SP5 for that

    >> matter when you can be running a real operating system NOW. Don't even

    >> think about converting to XP Pro. That's old news, an old o/s that ain't

    >> going anywhere. Go with Linux, it is the future.

    >>

    >> http://www.ubuntu.com

    >>

    >> Cheers.

    >

    > Yea, Linux is the future in about 20 years.

     

    No, now.

    > Right now it is for geeks who

    > want to tinker and play with their computers.

     

    False FUD.

    > IF they want to get real work

    > done, use a Windows or Macintosh solution.

     

    Sure, pull the other one, it has WGA on it.

    >

    > For servers, Linux is more stable than Windows, but we are mostly talking

    > desktop here.

     

    You're mostly talking out your ass.

    >

    > Oh yea, Just FYI.

     

    How original.

     

    Alias

    >

    >> --

    >> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>

    >> AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator

    >> and type lusrmgr.msc."

    >> ^^^^^

    >> I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

    >

    >

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    Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    >>> XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    >>> myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    >>> painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    >>> time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    >>> only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    >>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>> Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>> reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>> I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >> will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >

    > That is simply not true!

    > Frank

     

    This from someone who posted this:

     

    Who cares about what you like or dislike or support...you're a nobody.

    Got it? You are a nobody...no one cares about your stupid life or your

    bullsh*t diatribes about anything.

    Get lost you jerk.

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec 19, 2007

     

    You're one sick lying fukk!!! No one...NO ONE believes you!!!

    You are an admitted liar...a linux troll...an atheist and proly a commie

    bastard and a real loser of a jerk.

    Get lost!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 19, 2007

     

    Of course it will. But then again, you don't have Vista so you don't

    really know now do you mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie bastard.

    LOL!!!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 20, 2007

     

    What a childishly immature POS lying as*hole you are.

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 23, 2007

     

    jake wrote:

     

     

    ....just his usual delusional bullsh*t from some unknown blogger.

    Get a real life you idiot!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    You're infested with Vista demons capin' crunch. Is that a result of not

    taking your meds or are you just naturally that fukkin stupid?

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    Who the fukk do you think you are...mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie

    bastard....

    Go screw yourself!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

     

    flambe wrote:

     

    ....nothing but a bunch of uninformed lies and bullsh*t.

    Grow up as*hole and face the fact that you're STUPID!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec 31, 2007

     

    Wrong again you POS lying linux loser.

    Get a life you moron.

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

     

    You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

    You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

    Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    Ahahaha...of all the people who post to ng's...of all the lunies,

    wackos, morons, idiots and just plain'o losers...you my friend are at the

    very top of that heap of sh*theads...LOL!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 5, 2008

     

    ....FUKK!!! You're so full of sh*t I can almost smell you thru the Internet!

    Get a life you stupid POS moron idiot!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 7, 2008

     

     

    hehehe...never...and I mean never...admit in public that our are an

    idiot...something that you've just done.

    Use XP until the hell freezes over.

    Frank MPWVG, Jan 10, 2008

     

    Try sticking both of your feet into your big mouth at the same time

    butt-munch!

    Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

     

    Why? You too stupid to know how to use Vista.

    Loser.

    Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

     

    I know you're a cross-dressing unemployed RS arse kissing lying linux

    troll POS, but are you also a slobbering fukkin drunk too?

    Sure sounds like it you ignorant as*hole...LOL!

    Frank, MPWVG 1/17/08

     

    Well 'nostop" hahaha...(what a fukkin handle that is!), I guess you

    forgot to read huh?

    Hey, here's a proper sentence...go fukk yourself you stupid

    cross-dressing POS lying linux troll.

    Got it?

    Want some more?

    Just let me know I do so enjoy bit*h slapping your ignorant arse all

    over the place.

    Loser!

    Frank Vista General, 1/26/08

     

    Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

     

    Alias

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    Frank wrote:

    > ray wrote:

    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >>> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to

    >>> XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a

    >>> myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely

    >>> painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every

    >>> time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The

    >>> only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over

    >>> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>>

    >>> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >>> Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling

    >>> reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should

    >>> I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >> I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it

    >> will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with

    >> something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.

    >

    > That is simply not true!

    > Frank

     

    This from someone who posted this:

     

    Who cares about what you like or dislike or support...you're a nobody.

    Got it? You are a nobody...no one cares about your stupid life or your

    bullsh*t diatribes about anything.

    Get lost you jerk.

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec 19, 2007

     

    You're one sick lying fukk!!! No one...NO ONE believes you!!!

    You are an admitted liar...a linux troll...an atheist and proly a commie

    bastard and a real loser of a jerk.

    Get lost!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 19, 2007

     

    Of course it will. But then again, you don't have Vista so you don't

    really know now do you mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie bastard.

    LOL!!!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 20, 2007

     

    What a childishly immature POS lying as*hole you are.

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 23, 2007

     

    jake wrote:

     

     

    ....just his usual delusional bullsh*t from some unknown blogger.

    Get a real life you idiot!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    You're infested with Vista demons capin' crunch. Is that a result of not

    taking your meds or are you just naturally that fukkin stupid?

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    Who the fukk do you think you are...mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie

    bastard....

    Go screw yourself!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

     

    flambe wrote:

     

    ....nothing but a bunch of uninformed lies and bullsh*t.

    Grow up as*hole and face the fact that you're STUPID!

    Frank, MPWVG, Dec 31, 2007

     

    Wrong again you POS lying linux loser.

    Get a life you moron.

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

     

    You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

    You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

    Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

     

    Ahahaha...of all the people who post to ng's...of all the lunies,

    wackos, morons, idiots and just plain'o losers...you my friend are at the

    very top of that heap of sh*theads...LOL!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 5, 2008

     

    ....FUKK!!! You're so full of sh*t I can almost smell you thru the Internet!

    Get a life you stupid POS moron idiot!

    Frank, MPWVG, Jan 7, 2008

     

     

    hehehe...never...and I mean never...admit in public that our are an

    idiot...something that you've just done.

    Use XP until the hell freezes over.

    Frank MPWVG, Jan 10, 2008

     

    Try sticking both of your feet into your big mouth at the same time

    butt-munch!

    Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

     

    Why? You too stupid to know how to use Vista.

    Loser.

    Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

     

    I know you're a cross-dressing unemployed RS arse kissing lying linux

    troll POS, but are you also a slobbering fukkin drunk too?

    Sure sounds like it you ignorant as*hole...LOL!

    Frank, MPWVG 1/17/08

     

    Well 'nostop" hahaha...(what a fukkin handle that is!), I guess you

    forgot to read huh?

    Hey, here's a proper sentence...go fukk yourself you stupid

    cross-dressing POS lying linux troll.

    Got it?

    Want some more?

    Just let me know I do so enjoy bit*h slapping your ignorant arse all

    over the place.

    Loser!

    Frank Vista General, 1/26/08

     

    Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

     

    Alias

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    Leave it overnight. Vista has to update some internal database. It does not

    have time to do it. Leave it overnight at least a couple of times a week and

    you will see the result. It is better to leave it one pretty much

    continuously with low power settings enabled when you don't use it. When you

    use it set the power settings for best performance.

     

     

    "William" <wdavidson@neverstoprocking.co.uk> wrote in message

    news:0D72FF65-D935-4BCF-BE2A-74E9FB1A4916@microsoft.com...

    >I would also like to say that I find Vista 64 bit very slow, it takes about

    >10 mins to sort itself out when rebooted, whereas my xp machine is far ore

    >responsive & quicker

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:A505AFC9-C591-4FCC-9DD8-0750F29192BD@microsoft.com...

    >> Hi DP,

    >> The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with

    >> several

    >> devices.

    >>

    >> And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled

    >> a

    >> Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money

    >> wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I

    >> shall indeed depart these august surroundings.

    >>

    >> "DP" wrote:

    >>

    >>>

    >>> "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >>> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>> > takes

    >>> > 10

    >>> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> > synch

    >>> > with

    >>> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >>> > and

    >>> > I'm

    >>> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >>> > hassles

    >>> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of

    >>> > my

    >>> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer

    >>> > on

    >>> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I

    >>> > might

    >>> > miss

    >>> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >>> > that's

    >>> > not nearly enough to continue.

    >>> >

    >>> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view

    >>> > of

    >>> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >>> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear

    >>> > in 3

    >>> > to

    >>> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.

    >>> My installation works fine.

    >>> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it

    >>> come

    >>> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the

    >>> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again

    >>> and

    >>> again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware

    >>> issue?

    >>>

    >>>

    >

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    Leave it overnight. Vista has to update some internal database. It does not

    have time to do it. Leave it overnight at least a couple of times a week and

    you will see the result. It is better to leave it one pretty much

    continuously with low power settings enabled when you don't use it. When you

    use it set the power settings for best performance.

     

     

    "William" <wdavidson@neverstoprocking.co.uk> wrote in message

    news:0D72FF65-D935-4BCF-BE2A-74E9FB1A4916@microsoft.com...

    >I would also like to say that I find Vista 64 bit very slow, it takes about

    >10 mins to sort itself out when rebooted, whereas my xp machine is far ore

    >responsive & quicker

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:A505AFC9-C591-4FCC-9DD8-0750F29192BD@microsoft.com...

    >> Hi DP,

    >> The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with

    >> several

    >> devices.

    >>

    >> And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled

    >> a

    >> Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money

    >> wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I

    >> shall indeed depart these august surroundings.

    >>

    >> "DP" wrote:

    >>

    >>>

    >>> "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >>> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything

    >>> > takes

    >>> > 10

    >>> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >>> > synch

    >>> > with

    >>> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >>> > and

    >>> > I'm

    >>> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >>> > hassles

    >>> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of

    >>> > my

    >>> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer

    >>> > on

    >>> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I

    >>> > might

    >>> > miss

    >>> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >>> > that's

    >>> > not nearly enough to continue.

    >>> >

    >>> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view

    >>> > of

    >>> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >>> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear

    >>> > in 3

    >>> > to

    >>> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.

    >>> My installation works fine.

    >>> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it

    >>> come

    >>> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the

    >>> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again

    >>> and

    >>> again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware

    >>> issue?

    >>>

    >>>

    >

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    Shut Up

     

    <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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    > Re-Format Your Computer And Install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 RTM (A

    > Free Trial Version Is Available At

    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008), Just FYI.

     

    Installing Windows Server on a desktop is just plain stupid. The Server is

    not designed to run desktop applications and some applications will not

    work. Plus the cost. Don't you get it? Now go play with your server and

    look at the screen. The server is suppose to share resources and of course

    yours will just be sitting there.

     

    Get a brain in the skull of yours. Just FYI

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10

    >> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    >> with

    >> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    >> I'm

    >> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >> hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss

    >> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >> that's

    >> not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to

    >> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >

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    <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:eJ5lXEnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    > Re-Format Your Computer And Install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 RTM (A

    > Free Trial Version Is Available At

    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008), Just FYI.

     

    Installing Windows Server on a desktop is just plain stupid. The Server is

    not designed to run desktop applications and some applications will not

    work. Plus the cost. Don't you get it? Now go play with your server and

    look at the screen. The server is suppose to share resources and of course

    yours will just be sitting there.

     

    Get a brain in the skull of yours. Just FYI

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10

    >> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    >> with

    >> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    >> I'm

    >> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >> hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss

    >> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >> that's

    >> not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to

    >> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >

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    Make sure there are such files in this folder:

     

    Directory of C:\Windows\Inf

    angelusb.inf angelusb.PNF

    irstusb.inf irstusb.PNF

    stusb2ir.inf stusb2ir.PNF

    usb.inf usb.PNF

    usbccid.inf usbccid.PNF

    usbcir.inf usbcir.PNF

    usbport.inf usbport.PNF

    usbprint.inf usbprint.PNF

    usbstor.inf usbstor.PNF

    usbvideo.inf usbvideo.PNF

    wceusbsh.inf wceusbsh.PNF

    wdma_usb.inf wdma_usb.PNF

    winusb.inf winusb.PNF

    26 File(s) 1,113,306 bytes

    3 Dir(s) 53,645,410,304 bytes free

    [usbhub]

     

    Make sure there are such drivers:

    Directory Windows\System32\drivers\

    usb8023.sys USBAUDIO.sys

    USBCAMD.sys USBCAMD2.sys

    usbccgp.sys usbcir.sys

    usbd.sys usbehci.sys

    usbhub.sys usbohci.sys

    usbport.sys usbprint.sys

    USBSTOR.SYS usbuhci.sys

    14 File(s) 857,472 bytes

     

    In one of my Vistas 6 files were missing in the first directory and one

    driver in second.

     

    Although I fixed that it did not resolve the story completely. I had this

    problem for many years in XP and then in Vista.

     

    What I ended up doing after a person from another forum suggested me to do

    was to purchase a Belkin Internal 5-Port USB PCI card. He purchased

    Belkin's. I did not quite trust the maker but went for his pointer. It

    resolved the eissue completely. I removed a firewire PCI card in the back

    that I never used and plugged in Belkin. It isntalled itself and I've never

    had any problems since.

     

    This card and similar cards by other makers allow for the 5-th USB port to

    be engaged. It is not exposed to the elements. It faces the internals of the

    computer. However, if you have a floppy you do not need you can buy another

    External USB card (not PCI) and mount it up front ripping off the floppy

    drive. Thus you will have 8 fully functional USB ports and they will all

    work.

     

    I did it on 2 machines so far. I do not need to use the 5th, internal port.

    I now have plenty.

    "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message

    news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-1889D4041C39@microsoft.com...

    >I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB

    >drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to

    >fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and

    >reinstalling everything on XP.

    >

    > I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't

    > want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one

    > of their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I fear

    > that I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

    >

    > It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

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    Make sure there are such files in this folder:

     

    Directory of C:\Windows\Inf

    angelusb.inf angelusb.PNF

    irstusb.inf irstusb.PNF

    stusb2ir.inf stusb2ir.PNF

    usb.inf usb.PNF

    usbccid.inf usbccid.PNF

    usbcir.inf usbcir.PNF

    usbport.inf usbport.PNF

    usbprint.inf usbprint.PNF

    usbstor.inf usbstor.PNF

    usbvideo.inf usbvideo.PNF

    wceusbsh.inf wceusbsh.PNF

    wdma_usb.inf wdma_usb.PNF

    winusb.inf winusb.PNF

    26 File(s) 1,113,306 bytes

    3 Dir(s) 53,645,410,304 bytes free

    [usbhub]

     

    Make sure there are such drivers:

    Directory Windows\System32\drivers\

    usb8023.sys USBAUDIO.sys

    USBCAMD.sys USBCAMD2.sys

    usbccgp.sys usbcir.sys

    usbd.sys usbehci.sys

    usbhub.sys usbohci.sys

    usbport.sys usbprint.sys

    USBSTOR.SYS usbuhci.sys

    14 File(s) 857,472 bytes

     

    In one of my Vistas 6 files were missing in the first directory and one

    driver in second.

     

    Although I fixed that it did not resolve the story completely. I had this

    problem for many years in XP and then in Vista.

     

    What I ended up doing after a person from another forum suggested me to do

    was to purchase a Belkin Internal 5-Port USB PCI card. He purchased

    Belkin's. I did not quite trust the maker but went for his pointer. It

    resolved the eissue completely. I removed a firewire PCI card in the back

    that I never used and plugged in Belkin. It isntalled itself and I've never

    had any problems since.

     

    This card and similar cards by other makers allow for the 5-th USB port to

    be engaged. It is not exposed to the elements. It faces the internals of the

    computer. However, if you have a floppy you do not need you can buy another

    External USB card (not PCI) and mount it up front ripping off the floppy

    drive. Thus you will have 8 fully functional USB ports and they will all

    work.

     

    I did it on 2 machines so far. I do not need to use the 5th, internal port.

    I now have plenty.

    "Rich T" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message

    news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-1889D4041C39@microsoft.com...

    >I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB

    >drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to

    >fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and

    >reinstalling everything on XP.

    >

    > I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't

    > want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one

    > of their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I fear

    > that I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

    >

    > It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

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    "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >

    > Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >

    > Alias

     

    Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

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    "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:foi1l9$gc1$1@aioe.org...

    >

    > Frank and the truth is an oxymoron.

    >

    > Alias

     

    Alias and Ubuntu are just "moron"

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    Go with Linux/Ubuntu, it will take you down to hell!

     

    "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    news:fohuo3119es@news2.newsguy.com...

    > Inga Binga wrote:

    >

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >> synch

    >> with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >> and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of

    >> other hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar

    >> and

    >> that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    > There is NO compelling reason to wait for SP1 or to wait for SP5 for that

    > matter when you can be running a real operating system NOW. Don't even

    > think about converting to XP Pro. That's old news, an old o/s that ain't

    > going anywhere. Go with Linux, it is the future.

    >

    > http://www.ubuntu.com

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

    > --

    > Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    > http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >

    > AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator

    > and type lusrmgr.msc."

    > ^^^^^

    > I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

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    Go with Linux/Ubuntu, it will take you down to hell!

     

    "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    news:fohuo3119es@news2.newsguy.com...

    > Inga Binga wrote:

    >

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently

    >> synch

    >> with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro

    >> and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of

    >> other hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar

    >> and

    >> that's not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    > There is NO compelling reason to wait for SP1 or to wait for SP5 for that

    > matter when you can be running a real operating system NOW. Don't even

    > think about converting to XP Pro. That's old news, an old o/s that ain't

    > going anywhere. Go with Linux, it is the future.

    >

    > http://www.ubuntu.com

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

    > --

    > Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    > http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >

    > AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator

    > and type lusrmgr.msc."

    > ^^^^^

    > I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

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    Why does she need a server. It is a totally different world in terms of UI,

    etc. What a strange idea!

     

    <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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    > Re-Format Your Computer And Install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 RTM (A

    > Free Trial Version Is Available At

    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008), Just FYI.

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10

    >> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    >> with

    >> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    >> I'm

    >> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >> hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss

    >> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >> that's

    >> not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to

    >> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >

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    Why does she need a server. It is a totally different world in terms of UI,

    etc. What a strange idea!

     

    <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:eJ5lXEnaIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    > Re-Format Your Computer And Install Microsoft Windows Server 2008 RTM (A

    > Free Trial Version Is Available At

    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008), Just FYI.

    >

    > "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    >> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    >> 10

    >> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    >> with

    >> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    >> I'm

    >> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    >> hassles

    >> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    >> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    >> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    >> miss

    >> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    >> that's

    >> not nearly enough to continue.

    >>

    >> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    >> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    >> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    >> to

    >> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >>

    >>

    >

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    After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and

    was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying

    this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be

    Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just

    do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a

    BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have

    problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.

    SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of

    Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If

    you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so

    it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.

     

    --

    Kerry Brown

    Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

    http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

     

     

     

    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

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    After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and

    was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying

    this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be

    Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just

    do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a

    BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have

    problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.

    SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of

    Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If

    you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so

    it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.

     

    --

    Kerry Brown

    Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

    http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

     

     

     

    "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@microsoft.com...

    > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes

    > 10

    > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch

    > with

    > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and

    > I'm

    > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other

    > hassles

    > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my

    > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on

    > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might

    > miss

    > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and

    > that's

    > not nearly enough to continue.

    >

    > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of

    > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:

    > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3

    > to

    > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

    >

    >

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