Bill Yanaire wrote:

> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes a

> reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than Linux

> solutions.

>

HAHAHA, good one Bill! Very funny! Windows needs to reboot after an update

because it is "more complicated than Linux". Methinks the reason is far

simpler than that. It's because Windows is so poorly written, that it

requires so many reboots to configure it properly.

 

Shake Hands With,

Mr. Happy

Alias wrote:

 

>

>

> No, I went to the MICROSOFT newsgroup for WINDOWS UPDATES. Hundreds of

> posts there from people having problems with two of the .NET updates. Oops.

>

 

OOOOOOOOoooooooopppppppppssssssssss...hehehe...not here pal!

Sorry...lol!

>

> No need for Vista. You have yet to say why you "upgraded" and can't give

> us one good reason for buying and installing Vista.

 

Of course I did. You just can't remember or didn't read it.

I upgraded to Vista cause I wanted to and I could.

Unlike you, who can't afford Vista even if you wanted to get it.

 

 

If it walks like a duck ...

 

 

So now you're walking like a duck...lol...what's that all about?

You need help don't you?

hahaha...well...go get it!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>

>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and

>> then post back about how wonderful your experience was.

>

> Uhhh...you must have believed some linux loser FUD about a .net update

> that is nothing but uhhh...FUD!

>

> Do you have the

>> balls?

>

> Now that's an interesting comment...rather childish and stupid but,

> obviously you don't have the "balls" or the money to even get Vista.

>

> In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>

> How would an ignorant linux loser like you know anything at all about

> Vista, seeing as how you don't even have it?

> Well...?

> Frank

 

The same could be said to you in regards to your "Linux expertise". You're

one of the few who hasn't been able to even get Linux installed and working

and yet you think you're totally clued into all its shortcomings. Maybe you

aren't the geek you like to pretend you are? Here's a geek that has a

completely different take on Ubuntu ...

 

http://www.geek.com/ubuntu-linux-should-be-your-operating-system/

 

"I have hated Linux. I began looking at it back in the mid- to late-1990s

and I hated it. I was a software developer and I looked at the source code

and I hated it. It was awful … it was tedious … it required you to know so

much about your system that I found it useless. And did I mention? I hated

it.

 

Today, I can say this truly: I used to think like that, but the times have

changed."

 

Then again, he knows something about computers and isn't just full of

bullshit.

 

Shake Hands With,

Mr. Happy

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:37:03 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>> Ian wrote:

>>

>>> Explain Net ?

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it

>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One

>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while

>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,

>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out, if

>>>>> left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are

>>>>> important because they block holes that virus makers have found.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>

>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>

>>

>> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some ATI

>> cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see them

>> listed.

>>

>> Alias

>

>So what is your problem? You don't have nor can you afford Vista so why

>are you posting about .net and why are you even here.

>Get lost, you're not need or wanted.

>Frank

 

Alias has kicked your sorry behind so many times you've been reduced

to nothing more than the newsgroup clown. On the plus side, you're

doing a great job of replacing Justin who once claimed that title.

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

> installing

> the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me employed.

> Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and Quad Core

> processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck depends on

> the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to stay in the

> drawer.

>

Fair enough and thanks for showing some honesty. Of course, if your bread

and butter depends on Windows, you should keep using it. Unfortunately, you

also seem to go out of your way to keep slamming Linux. You don't need to

do that Bill, unless you're getting really insecure about your bread and

butter. But if Linux is no threat to your os of choice and is a toy

operating system, not worth considering, then you really shouldn't feel so

paranoid.

 

Just keep using what works for you. For others, sick of Microsoft's tactics

and wanting to keep older hardware running, that won't with Vista, Linux is

certainly an alternative.

 

http://www.geek.com/ubuntu-linux-should-be-your-operating-system/

 

Shake Hands With,

Mr. Happy

You sure have a skewed view of the word. No wonder you are an Ubuntu

zealot. I PREFER to feed my family, have a nice home, freedom to travel,

help my kids, put money away for retirement, etc.... Most of the world uses

Windows and they wern't fooled into buying Windows, it just so happens that

Windows is the best solution out there. Of course there are issues and

problems, but with such complicated software there are bound to be problems.

 

How about Linux? Last time I updated Ubuntu, there were 81 updates. Maybe

Ubuntu is becoming bloated also.

 

I'm glad that you understand how hundreds of thousands of people use

Microsoft products to make their living. I provide solutions to business

problems. If I need to use Microsoft technology to get the job done, the so

be it. My software saves the company money by making other peoples jobs

easier.

 

You keep using Ubuntu as a toy and leave the "heavy lifting" to us

professionals. By the way, what do YOU do for a living (if anything)?

 

 

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

news:%23j8eXkJxHHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

>> installing the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me

>> employed. Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and

>> Quad Core processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck

>> depends on the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to

>> stay in the drawer.

>

> Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired often

> and you need to make money off the hapless people who were fooled into

> buying Windows. Now I understand.

>

> Alias

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes

>>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more

>>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and

>>> then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the

>>> balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to

>>>>> make sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one

>>>>> single problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot

>>>>> after downloading and installing them.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it

>>>>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One

>>>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while

>>>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,

>>>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,

>>>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates

>>>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have

>>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:18:59 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and installing

> the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me employed. Yes,

> there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and Quad Core

> processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck depends on

> the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to stay in the

> drawer.

 

You can friggin say that again, the bloated and dual core or more part.

 

My major project I am currently working on, screen shot here:

 

http://www.somrek.net/sizer.png

 

Used to be C# / .Net / Managed DirectX based and windows only.

 

Rendering time for a somewhat complex PCB board with a total of about

20,000 elements was about 200 milliseconds on a single core 3.2GHz P4 and

about 90 milliseconds with my 2.4GHz Core Duo. And believe me, I　am *no*

newbie to .Net programming. I've been using it since .Net 1.0 was in beta

and used to be a major contributor in the EFNet based IRC help channel.

 

My code was as optimized as only possible.

 

My new solution, C++ and OpenGL　based and Windows/Linux/Mac compatible, is

just a tiny bit faster.

 

The identical dataset needs about 20 milliseconds on the slowest friggin

system we can find in our office, which is below specs of my 3.2GHz P4

system. My Core 2 Duo doesn't even scratch 10 milliseconds and that is

with only using a single core. I haven't even bothered going multi

threaded for multiple cores yet.

 

I've found the .Net framework, while it does make life cozy and

convenient in the windows world, to be useless for anything that's

performance critical.

 

--

Stephan

2003 Yamaha R6

 

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Adam Albright wrote:

 

 

-----------drunken drivel deleted------------

 

Only a real lush like you could be so drunk this early in the morning.

Pathetic!

Frank

"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message

news:O3qB0cJxHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Alias wrote:

>

>>

>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make

>> sure there aren't any problems,

>

> Liar...

> I have never, ever, had one single

>> problem with Ubuntu updates

>

> Liar...

>

> and very rarely need to reboot after

>> downloading and installing them.

>

> Biggest lie of all!

> Hey little man. stop the lying, ok?

> Frank

 

Hi,

I'm another guy named Frank B. and I'd like to chime in for a reality check.

I've got Ubuntu dual booting on 2 computers with XP and Vista.

 

And I've got Mandriva Spring One on an older laptop. And what's my reality

check?

 

BOTH SIDES ARE CORRECT. I use LINUX & VISTA & XP AND I LIKE THEM ALL. Yes

Vista is bloated and sluggish etc etc ,.....but it also is geared to run

Major applications that Linux right now can only dream of. (Yes, you do have

to have recent Vista-compatible versions...but wait and let's see Linux's

situation......)

 

Sure there are Wine, CrossOver, VMware etc etc,...but I've found something

through direct experience: These are great for tinkering with programs like

Dreamweaver MX, Photoshop and Flash. But do you have Real Dependability with

them ? In short, No.

 

This is what I've encountered:

 

- PS 7.0 runs great on wine - it also "Kicks" me out of the program randomly

from time to time with no warning. (But hey, no freezes !!)

 

- DW MX worked great for a while then it began, every time I wanted to

access my remote site, to 'encounter a fatal error'. So "DW mx must now

terminate".

(Btw, a clue: this is like having no program at all. And FYI, I've seen

other 2-year-old posts on this exact same topic that have No replies as

yet...I've emailed CrossOver and have not received a valid reply to this

concern. I've also tried reinstalling CrossOver and DW mx)

 

- I've spent hours and hours scouring through forums and googling to find

answers about configuring hardware. At one point, I Finally got my Canon

scanner configured. How? By visiting a FRENCH UBUNTU SITE and using their

English-based code. (Yep, that JUST WORKED !! RIGHT??)

 

- It took over a week to research and figure out how to manage a jumpy

cursor/keyboard problem on my laptop.

 

- I have a ATI X-1650 Radeon card which is very recent technology. Will

Beryl and Compiz work with them?? NO. It is not supported for accelerated

graphics in Ubuntu. Hummmmmm.

 

All this may imply that I hate Linux. Not so - actually, I LOVE it. But I'm

tired of all the lies these trolls are spreading. Why are these trolls here?

Maybe so you won't see what Ubuntu forums are like. I encourage these guys

to hang out on Ubuntu forums and help beginners there, rather than troll

here. You'll do much more to "convert" people that way than you will

spreading lies on this forum.

 

And yes, maybe your experience with Ubuntu is all smooth. That's a reply

game many use in Linux: "Well, mine works fine." But you know what? That's

what you're hearing here on Vista. Many have indeed had very smooth

experiences.

 

So go help beginners in Linux on those forums. Get A Life.

 

Frank B.

Mr. Happy wrote:

>>

>

> Fair enough and thanks for showing some honesty. Of course, if your bread

> and butter depends on Windows, you should keep using it. Unfortunately, you

> also seem to go out of your way to keep slamming Linux.

 

hahaha...don't make me laugh! Then what the hell are you, an admitted

linux loser, doing in this Windows Vista ng?

What are you afraid of? Linux going by the wayside?

 

 

You don't need to

> do that Bill, unless you're getting really insecure about your bread and

> butter.

 

You don't really need to be here slamming Vista do you. Why are you

here, huh?

 

But if Linux is no threat to your os of choice and is a toy

> operating system, not worth considering, then you really shouldn't feel so

> paranoid.

 

You a*shole linus losers come here and think we're paranoid?

Oh, now that's funny!

Get lost (again) doris.

Frank

Unlike you, I have never, ever, had one single problem with Windows updates

and very diligently reboot after downloading and installing them. So?

 

"Alias" wrote in message news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make

> sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single problem

> with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after downloading and

> installing them.

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>

>> You lie, as usual. .NET doesn't update for *anyone* just fine.

>>

>

> Oh really?

> Is that what your linux loser troll friends over at open sores trash dot

> ubuntu ng told you to say?

> hehehe...and seeing as how you don't have Vista installed, how would you

> know?

> Truth is you don't, it did update just fine, thank you very much!

> You appear to be getting very desperate in your assaults and insults

> about Vista.

> Is that due to the "losing feeling" you've got or that "flop sweat" you

> feel running down the middle of your back, you ball less little

> creep...lol!

> Frank

 

Hundreds and hundreds of people are having problems with the .NET

updates. How come you're not over at microsoft.public.windowsupdates

helping those people out instead of lying about me and others over here?

 

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> You sure have a skewed view of the word. No wonder you are an Ubuntu

> zealot. I PREFER to feed my family, have a nice home, freedom to travel,

> help my kids, put money away for retirement, etc....

 

And you're scared sh¡tless that Linux will take away your cash cow. So

is Microsoft.

> Most of the world uses

> Windows and they wern't fooled into buying Windows, it just so happens that

> Windows is the best solution out there.

 

False and false.

> Of course there are issues and

> problems, but with such complicated software there are bound to be problems.

>

> How about Linux? Last time I updated Ubuntu, there were 81 updates. Maybe

> Ubuntu is becoming bloated also.

 

Not really. With some ten programs open, it uses less than 279MB of RAM.

Most of the updates are improvements to the programs installed, not

"security updates" like you get with Windows every month.

>

> I'm glad that you understand how hundreds of thousands of people use

> Microsoft products to make their living. I provide solutions to business

> problems. If I need to use Microsoft technology to get the job done, the so

> be it. My software saves the company money by making other peoples jobs

> easier.

 

No wonder you're scared of Linux.

>

> You keep using Ubuntu as a toy and leave the "heavy lifting" to us

> professionals. By the way, what do YOU do for a living (if anything)?

 

It's not related to computers except that I use computers to do it. What

I do is not relevant nor any of your business.

 

Alias

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

> news:%23j8eXkJxHHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

>>> installing the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me

>>> employed. Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and

>>> Quad Core processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck

>>> depends on the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to

>>> stay in the drawer.

>> Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired often

>> and you need to make money off the hapless people who were fooled into

>> buying Windows. Now I understand.

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes

>>>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more

>>>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and

>>>> then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the

>>>> balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>>>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to

>>>>>> make sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one

>>>>>> single problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot

>>>>>> after downloading and installing them.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it

>>>>>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One

>>>>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while

>>>>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,

>>>>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,

>>>>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates

>>>>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have

>>>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>

Frank wrote:

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

> You a*shole linus losers

 

Skip

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>

>>

>>

>> No, I went to the MICROSOFT newsgroup for WINDOWS UPDATES. Hundreds of

>> posts there from people having problems with two of the .NET updates.

>> Oops.

>>

>

> OOOOOOOOoooooooopppppppppssssssssss...hehehe...not here pal!

> Sorry...lol!

 

Huh? Do I need to repost the messages from Vista users who are having

problems with .NET?

>

>>

>> No need for Vista. You have yet to say why you "upgraded" and can't

>> give us one good reason for buying and installing Vista.

>

> Of course I did. You just can't remember or didn't read it.

 

No, you didn't.

> I upgraded to Vista cause I wanted to and I could.

 

Yes, dear.

> Unlike you, who can't afford Vista even if you wanted to get it.

 

I could afford your wife, her mother and all their sisters.

>

>

> If it walks like a duck ...

>

>

> So now you're walking like a duck...lol...what's that all about?

 

LOL! You really don't understand?

> You need help don't you?

 

No, you do.

> hahaha...well...go get it!

> Frank

 

Take your own advice.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

>

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

> OMG...you're delusion at best and totally ignorant at worst!

 

Skip

You are either delusional or have no clue. I am NOT scared sh**less at all.

Not in the least. Each and every "enhancment" Microsoft makes, solidifies

my standing in my profession. Microsoft is somewhat alarmed, but they are

not scared. Even if you have your way (which you won't) just by attrition,

it will take decades for Linux to overtake Microsoft and by that time, I

will be on a beach in the Bahamas drinking and watching the girls go by on

the beach and not give a rats ass about any software solution.

 

So you job isn't in the computer industry so you have no idea what you are

talking about. You just keep preaching Linux/Ubuntu just like those Jehova

Witness people who come by on Sunday morning, knocking on doors trying to

convert the people to their cult.

 

Keep dreaming and maybe Ubuntu will be big in your world!

 

 

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

news:eAyo7GKxHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> You sure have a skewed view of the word. No wonder you are an Ubuntu

>> zealot. I PREFER to feed my family, have a nice home, freedom to travel,

>> help my kids, put money away for retirement, etc....

>

> And you're scared sh¡tless that Linux will take away your cash cow. So is

> Microsoft.

>

>> Most of the world uses Windows and they wern't fooled into buying

>> Windows, it just so happens that Windows is the best solution out there.

>

> False and false.

>

>> Of course there are issues and problems, but with such complicated

>> software there are bound to be problems.

>>

>> How about Linux? Last time I updated Ubuntu, there were 81 updates.

>> Maybe Ubuntu is becoming bloated also.

>

> Not really. With some ten programs open, it uses less than 279MB of RAM.

> Most of the updates are improvements to the programs installed, not

> "security updates" like you get with Windows every month.

>

>>

>> I'm glad that you understand how hundreds of thousands of people use

>> Microsoft products to make their living. I provide solutions to business

>> problems. If I need to use Microsoft technology to get the job done, the

>> so be it. My software saves the company money by making other peoples

>> jobs easier.

>

> No wonder you're scared of Linux.

>>

>> You keep using Ubuntu as a toy and leave the "heavy lifting" to us

>> professionals. By the way, what do YOU do for a living (if anything)?

>

> It's not related to computers except that I use computers to do it. What I

> do is not relevant nor any of your business.

>

> Alias

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>> news:%23j8eXkJxHHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

>>>> installing the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me

>>>> employed. Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core

>>>> and Quad Core processors to run the bloated software. But since my

>>>> paycheck depends on the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will

>>>> continue to stay in the drawer.

>>> Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired often

>>> and you need to make money off the hapless people who were fooled into

>>> buying Windows. Now I understand.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes

>>>>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more

>>>>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>>>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates

>>>>> and then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you

>>>>> have the balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>>>>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to

>>>>>>> make sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one

>>>>>>> single problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot

>>>>>>> after downloading and installing them.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that

>>>>>>>>>> it would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One

>>>>>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while

>>>>>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,

>>>>>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,

>>>>>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates

>>>>>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have

>>>>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in

news:uB5iB3JxHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

>.... Most of

> the world uses Windows and they wern't fooled into buying Windows, it

> just so happens that Windows is the best solution out there.

 

No, it just so happens that MS was the one to cut the deals way back when

with the OEM's to put Windows on the PC's they sell. If it was IBM that was

able to cut the deal for OS2 Warp, we would all be bitching about IBM now

instead of MS.

 

For a very long time now, if you go into a store, all the PC's have Windows

pre-installed and for most people, a PC _is_ Windows. And to further that,

most people only know the OS is called Windows because that's what it says

at the boot splash screen.

Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in

news:O8WdnQimdL6FzQvbnZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com:

 

> I've found the .Net framework, while it does make life cozy and

> convenient in the windows world, to be useless for anything that's

> performance critical.

 

Ditto.

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> You are either delusional or have no clue. I am NOT scared sh**less at all.

> Not in the least. Each and every "enhancment" Microsoft makes, solidifies

> my standing in my profession. Microsoft is somewhat alarmed, but they are

> not scared. Even if you have your way (which you won't) just by attrition,

> it will take decades for Linux to overtake Microsoft and by that time, I

> will be on a beach in the Bahamas drinking and watching the girls go by on

> the beach and not give a rats ass about any software solution.

>

> So you job isn't in the computer industry so you have no idea what you are

> talking about. You just keep preaching Linux/Ubuntu just like those Jehova

> Witness people who come by on Sunday morning, knocking on doors trying to

> convert the people to their cult.

>

> Keep dreaming and maybe Ubuntu will be big in your world!

 

Do you realize, like Frank's posts, that this post is only comprised of

holier than thou insults?

 

Ask Enron's stockholders how quickly a large corporation can fall.

 

"You can fool some of the people ..."

 

Alias

 

>

>

> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

> news:eAyo7GKxHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> You sure have a skewed view of the word. No wonder you are an Ubuntu

>>> zealot. I PREFER to feed my family, have a nice home, freedom to travel,

>>> help my kids, put money away for retirement, etc....

>> And you're scared sh¡tless that Linux will take away your cash cow. So is

>> Microsoft.

>>

>>> Most of the world uses Windows and they wern't fooled into buying

>>> Windows, it just so happens that Windows is the best solution out there.

>> False and false.

>>

>>> Of course there are issues and problems, but with such complicated

>>> software there are bound to be problems.

>>>

>>> How about Linux? Last time I updated Ubuntu, there were 81 updates.

>>> Maybe Ubuntu is becoming bloated also.

>> Not really. With some ten programs open, it uses less than 279MB of RAM.

>> Most of the updates are improvements to the programs installed, not

>> "security updates" like you get with Windows every month.

>>

>>> I'm glad that you understand how hundreds of thousands of people use

>>> Microsoft products to make their living. I provide solutions to business

>>> problems. If I need to use Microsoft technology to get the job done, the

>>> so be it. My software saves the company money by making other peoples

>>> jobs easier.

>> No wonder you're scared of Linux.

>>> You keep using Ubuntu as a toy and leave the "heavy lifting" to us

>>> professionals. By the way, what do YOU do for a living (if anything)?

>> It's not related to computers except that I use computers to do it. What I

>> do is not relevant nor any of your business.

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>> news:%23j8eXkJxHHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

>>>>> installing the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me

>>>>> employed. Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core

>>>>> and Quad Core processors to run the bloated software. But since my

>>>>> paycheck depends on the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will

>>>>> continue to stay in the drawer.

>>>> Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired often

>>>> and you need to make money off the hapless people who were fooled into

>>>> buying Windows. Now I understand.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes

>>>>>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more

>>>>>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>>>>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates

>>>>>> and then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you

>>>>>> have the balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>>>>>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to

>>>>>>>> make sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one

>>>>>>>> single problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot

>>>>>>>> after downloading and installing them.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that

>>>>>>>>>>> it would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One

>>>>>>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while

>>>>>>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,

>>>>>>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,

>>>>>>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates

>>>>>>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have

>>>>>>>>>>> found.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>

>

Yes you are correct. IT doesn't matter which company is at the helm. If

IBM wasn't asleep at the wheel, they would be the dominant force but

MicroSquish took those honors. It doesn't matter how they got there and

they will be there for a long time to come.

 

I'm not worried about it. For those who preach about other solutions, they

are just a boil on the ass of Microsoft!

 

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

news:Xns996B81C881DB5thisnthatadelphianet@216.196.97.142...

> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in

> news:uB5iB3JxHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

>

>>.... Most of

>> the world uses Windows and they wern't fooled into buying Windows, it

>> just so happens that Windows is the best solution out there.

>

> No, it just so happens that MS was the one to cut the deals way back when

> with the OEM's to put Windows on the PC's they sell. If it was IBM that

> was

> able to cut the deal for OS2 Warp, we would all be bitching about IBM now

> instead of MS.

>

> For a very long time now, if you go into a store, all the PC's have

> Windows

> pre-installed and for most people, a PC _is_ Windows. And to further that,

> most people only know the OS is called Windows because that's what it says

> at the boot splash screen.

>

>

Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in news:eDoVOuJxHHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

 

> You're the desperate one who seems really scared that you don't have nor

> can afford Vista.

 

Regardless of whether or not someone can afford to buy something means

absolutely nothing if said person doesn't want it anyway.

 

It time for you to think up some other put-downs.

 

Not too creative are we.....you've been calling Alias poor for months and

Adam a drunk for months....can't you come up with anything new (or possibly

new AND clever) ?

Sounds like you can't take the truth. Linux will take years to move a

couple of percentage points up the ladder. Microsoft will lose a few

percentage points, but until Linux gets their act together, they will still

be a small standing in the world.

 

So why can't you say what you do for work? You said you use computers in

your job? Could it be ringing up orders for customers wanting a Big Mac,

Large order of fries, and a small drink? Oh yea, some of those POS systems

are probably on the Unix/Linux platform :-)

 

 

 

 

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

news:%23PGt2OKxHHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> You are either delusional or have no clue. I am NOT scared sh**less at

>> all. Not in the least. Each and every "enhancment" Microsoft makes,

>> solidifies my standing in my profession. Microsoft is somewhat alarmed,

>> but they are not scared. Even if you have your way (which you won't)

>> just by attrition, it will take decades for Linux to overtake Microsoft

>> and by that time, I will be on a beach in the Bahamas drinking and

>> watching the girls go by on the beach and not give a rats ass about any

>> software solution.

>>

>> So you job isn't in the computer industry so you have no idea what you

>> are talking about. You just keep preaching Linux/Ubuntu just like those

>> Jehova Witness people who come by on Sunday morning, knocking on doors

>> trying to convert the people to their cult.

>>

>> Keep dreaming and maybe Ubuntu will be big in your world!

>

> Do you realize, like Frank's posts, that this post is only comprised of

> holier than thou insults?

>

> Ask Enron's stockholders how quickly a large corporation can fall.

>

> "You can fool some of the people ..."

>

> Alias

>

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>> news:eAyo7GKxHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> You sure have a skewed view of the word. No wonder you are an Ubuntu

>>>> zealot. I PREFER to feed my family, have a nice home, freedom to

>>>> travel, help my kids, put money away for retirement, etc....

>>> And you're scared sh¡tless that Linux will take away your cash cow. So

>>> is Microsoft.

>>>

>>>> Most of the world uses Windows and they wern't fooled into buying

>>>> Windows, it just so happens that Windows is the best solution out

>>>> there.

>>> False and false.

>>>

>>>> Of course there are issues and problems, but with such complicated

>>>> software there are bound to be problems.

>>>>

>>>> How about Linux? Last time I updated Ubuntu, there were 81 updates.

>>>> Maybe Ubuntu is becoming bloated also.

>>> Not really. With some ten programs open, it uses less than 279MB of RAM.

>>> Most of the updates are improvements to the programs installed, not

>>> "security updates" like you get with Windows every month.

>>>

>>>> I'm glad that you understand how hundreds of thousands of people use

>>>> Microsoft products to make their living. I provide solutions to

>>>> business problems. If I need to use Microsoft technology to get the

>>>> job done, the so be it. My software saves the company money by making

>>>> other peoples jobs easier.

>>> No wonder you're scared of Linux.

>>>> You keep using Ubuntu as a toy and leave the "heavy lifting" to us

>>>> professionals. By the way, what do YOU do for a living (if anything)?

>>> It's not related to computers except that I use computers to do it. What

>>> I do is not relevant nor any of your business.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23j8eXkJxHHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and

>>>>>> installing the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep

>>>>>> me employed. Yes, there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual

>>>>>> Core and Quad Core processors to run the bloated software. But since

>>>>>> my paycheck depends on the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu

>>>>>> will continue to stay in the drawer.

>>>>> Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired

>>>>> often and you need to make money off the hapless people who were

>>>>> fooled into buying Windows. Now I understand.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes

>>>>>>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more

>>>>>>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>>>>>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates

>>>>>>> and then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you

>>>>>>> have the balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>>>>>>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to

>>>>>>>>> make sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one

>>>>>>>>> single problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot

>>>>>>>>> after downloading and installing them.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Ian wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to

>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said

>>>>>>>>>>>> that it would run lots of maintenance programs in the

>>>>>>>>>>>> background. One because people want to get on with other

>>>>>>>>>>>> computing tasks while carrying out mundane maintenance, but

>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so many people would

>>>>>>>>>>>> never carry these tasks out, if left to their own devices.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates are one such task. Updates are important because they

>>>>>>>>>>>> block holes that virus makers have found.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Feel more secure now?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>

How would you know what the .NET framework does?

 

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

news:Xns996B822E2D4CFthisnthatadelphianet@216.196.97.142...

> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in

> news:O8WdnQimdL6FzQvbnZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com:

>

>

>> I've found the .Net framework, while it does make life cozy and

>> convenient in the windows world, to be useless for anything that's

>> performance critical.

>

> Ditto.

>

Alias wrote:

>

> Ask Enron's stockholders how quickly a large corporation can fall.

 

 

hahaha...oh...that's the best one yet!

OMG...you are actually much, much dumber than any of us ORIGINALLY

suspected.

Cats out of the bag NOW...you're a real idiot!

hahahaha....ROTFLMAO!!!

Frank