Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:11:31 -0800, StormDrain wrote:

> In article <G72nj.83968$c_1.80981@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,

> 7 <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

>

>> Tim Murray wrote:

>>

>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:26:24 -0500, 7 wrote:

>>>> Appil Corporation Fraudulent Asstroturfer Gene Jones wrote on behalf of

>>>> Appil Corporation:

>>>>

>>>>> A

>>>>

>>>> Stick to AMD 64 bit CPUs and PCs running Linux. Its a lot faster than

>>>> appil crap.

>>>>

>>>> See for yourself the coolest desktops running Linux

>>>> http://www.youtube.com search for beryl and compiz

>>>>

>>>> All free with source code unlike appil crap

>>>> http://www.livecdlist.com

>>>> http://www.distrowatch.com

>>>>

>>>

>>> Wow. You really put forth a compelling argument.

>>

>> You got to remember these arguments are addressed towards appil retardees

>> conning the public out of money and better technology.

>> Seeing is believing. See http://www.youtube.com and search

>> for compix and beryl to see what you are missing out on if you

>> haven't bought into Linux yet.

>

> I see lots of spinning desktops but nobody getting anything done. It's

> all G with no UI. Maybe somebody can turn that graphics technology into

> a UI.

>

> Right now Apple's the only one incorporating new graphic metaphors:

> expose', time machine, spinning to set app preferences, cover flow etc

> with an eye toward usability. I use those GUI devices all the time. The

> gee whiz is gone and they are simply a much appreciated part of the

> workflow.

 

Well stated Storm!

That is the part the Linux community seems to miss.

"Daniel Johnson" <danieljohnson2@verizon.net> wrote:

> > you can learn more about the most powerful laptop for its size in the

> > world here:

>

> Not so. The ordinary MacBook is the same size, but is more powerful.

 

Daniel loves to be wrong:

 

http://homepage.mac.com/alchemy8/earth/side2side.jpg

 

http://homepage.mac.com/alchemy8/earth/aquarter.jpg

 

Daniel, don't be stupid, the MacBook is about twice the size, weight and

about the same speed. The MacBook Air is easily the thinnest, most

powerful laptop in the world, and will be for several years to come.

Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

StormDrain wrote:

> In article <G72nj.83968$c_1.80981@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,

> 7 <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

>

>> Tim Murray wrote:

>>

>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:26:24 -0500, 7 wrote:

>>>> Appil Corporation Fraudulent Asstroturfer Gene Jones wrote on behalf of

>>>> Appil Corporation:

>>>>

>>>>> A

>>>> Stick to AMD 64 bit CPUs and PCs running Linux. Its a lot faster than

>>>> appil crap.

>>>>

>>>> See for yourself the coolest desktops running Linux

>>>> http://www.youtube.com search for beryl and compiz

>>>>

>>>> All free with source code unlike appil crap

>>>> http://www.livecdlist.com

>>>> http://www.distrowatch.com

>>>>

>>> Wow. You really put forth a compelling argument.

>> You got to remember these arguments are addressed towards appil retardees

>> conning the public out of money and better technology.

>> Seeing is believing. See http://www.youtube.com and search

>> for compix and beryl to see what you are missing out on if you

>> haven't bought into Linux yet.

>

> I see lots of spinning desktops but nobody getting anything done. It's

> all G with no UI. Maybe somebody can turn that graphics technology into

> a UI.

 

I am using one right now, Thunderbird. I also use GIMP, Firefox, Amarok,

Movie Player, Pidgin and many other GUIs. Oops.

>

> Right now Apple's the only one incorporating new graphic metaphors:

> expose', time machine, spinning to set app preferences, cover flow etc

> with an eye toward usability. I use those GUI devices all the time. The

> gee whiz is gone and they are simply a much appreciated part of the

> workflow.

 

The GUIs in Ubuntu have usability. Maybe if you were to run Ubuntu

instead of watching a YouTube video on Berly or Compiz Fusion, you would

realize that.

 

Macs are nice but overpriced.

 

Alias

In article <eWFVdcOYIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

> > http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

> > http://www.apple.com/macbookair/

>

>

> I can just imagine the type of totally obnoxiously devoted Apple gimps that

> I'm going to see posing with those this summer. I'll stick with the totally

> functional and useful Thinkpad X-Series.

 

thinkpads are fine if you don't care about battery life, weight or

having less software. otherwise mac laptops are the way to go.

Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:16:38 -0500, 7 wrote:

> >> if you haven't bought into Linux yet.

> >

> > Rather sounds like multilevel marketing.

>

> Coupled with a religious cult.

 

and horrendous software. linux is for kids.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:28:05 -0600, Gene Jones wrote

(in article

<jasin-F9BF5F.11280527012008@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>):

> Daniel, don't be stupid, the MacBook is about twice the size, weight and

> about the same speed. The MacBook Air is easily the thinnest, most

> powerful laptop in the world, and will be for several years to come.

 

Unless you want firewire.

 

Unless you want multiple USB ports.

 

Unless you want more memory capacity.

 

Unless you want more storage capacity.

 

Unless you want ExpressCard/34.

 

Unless you want multiple batteries to quick change on a long

flight or elsewhere.

 

etc.

 

 

 

--

Lefty

All of God's creatures have a place..........

..........right next to the potatoes and gravy.

See also: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:34:43 -0500, Gene Jones wrote:

> In article <eWFVdcOYIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>

>>> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

>>> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/

>>

>>

>> I can just imagine the type of totally obnoxiously devoted Apple gimps that

>> I'm going to see posing with those this summer. I'll stick with the

>> totally

>> functional and useful Thinkpad X-Series.

>

> thinkpads are fine if you don't care about battery life, weight or

> having less software. otherwise mac laptops are the way to go.

 

And that huge power brick.

"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message

news:jasin-BC2C3F.11344327012008@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...

>

>> > http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

>> > http://www.apple.com/macbookair/

>>

>>

>> I can just imagine the type of totally obnoxiously devoted Apple gimps

>> that

>> I'm going to see posing with those this summer. I'll stick with the

>> totally

>> functional and useful Thinkpad X-Series.

>

> thinkpads are fine if you don't care about battery life, weight or

> having less software. otherwise mac laptops are the way to go.

 

Erm, you obviously don't know what the X-Series is then, as they are very

light, and the battery lasts for up to 6 hours on mine. The new X61s lasts

for even longer than that. And as for 'having less software', are you

totally clueless? I'm not using Linux, well, not at the moment.

 

I used to use a Powerbook G4 a lot, and the battery did not last nearly as

long, and it was no lighter.

 

ss.

"Lefty Bigfoot" <nunya@busyness.info> wrote in message

news:0001HW.C3C231B001AD3676F01846D8@news.verizon.net...

>

>> Daniel, don't be stupid, the MacBook is about twice the size, weight and

>> about the same speed. The MacBook Air is easily the thinnest, most

>> powerful laptop in the world, and will be for several years to come.

>

> Unless you want firewire.

>

> Unless you want multiple USB ports.

>

> Unless you want more memory capacity.

>

> Unless you want more storage capacity.

>

> Unless you want ExpressCard/34.

>

> Unless you want multiple batteries to quick change on a long

> flight or elsewhere.

 

 

It's male jewellery for posing ponces. Sort of like the guys you see around

with iPhones. Dicks.

 

ss.

In article <eW104oRYIHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>

> Erm, you obviously don't know what the X-Series is then, as they are very

> light, and the battery lasts for up to 6 hours on mine. The new X61s lasts

> for even longer than that. And as for 'having less software', are you

> totally clueless? I'm not using Linux, well, not at the moment.

 

macs run more software than any computer made, don't forget that.

 

plus the macbook air is quite a bit more feature rich than the x-series.

Gene Jones (OxRetard, the typical Mac using cretin) nymshifted again:

> In article <eW104oRYIHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>

>>

>> Erm, you obviously don't know what the X-Series is then, as they are very

>> light, and the battery lasts for up to 6 hours on mine. The new X61s

>> lasts

>> for even longer than that. And as for 'having less software', are you

>> totally clueless? I'm not using Linux, well, not at the moment.

>

> macs run more software than any computer made, don't forget that.

 

Except naturally windows compuzters, and even more linux computers.

But then naturally OSX will also appear somewhere on the radar, a very

distant 3rd or 4th place

> plus the macbook air is quite a bit more feature rich than the x-series.

 

Yes. It has a lot a features lacking. It lacks *many* more features than

every other laptop its size. Not to mention in its price range. No other

laptop in its class lacks so many features

--

If you had any brains, you'd be dangerous.

Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:35:56 -0700, Gene Jones wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:16:38 -0500, 7 wrote:

>> >> if you haven't bought into Linux yet.

>> >

>> > Rather sounds like multilevel marketing.

>>

>> Coupled with a religious cult.

>

> and horrendous software. linux is for kids.

 

How so? Are you talking about Sugar, the OLPC interface? That's certainly

*designed* for kids. Linux as a whole is meant for adults with minds of

their own.

 

--

Kier

In article <86nu65x4ot.ln2@supertux.my.domain>, Jerry McBride

<jmcbride@mail-on.us> wrote:

> For the price of one mac air... I could buy three eePC's... and have Linux

> pre-installed....

>

> Is the Air Linux compatible?

 

I don't know of any Mac ever made that was not compatible with Linux.

Now, it's compatible with even Windows.

 

I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

comparison to regular laptop considerations. Come on, a 7 inch screen?

In article <eWFVdcOYIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Synapse Syndrome

<synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>

> I can just imagine the type of totally obnoxiously devoted Apple gimps that

> I'm going to see posing with those this summer. I'll stick with the totally

> functional and useful Thinkpad X-Series.

 

Are you saying that Apple doesn't make the same thing?

 

Or are you saying that Apple's hardware isn't serious enough for real

users?

 

Or are you suggesting that people only buy Apple to look good, or for

that stupid 'religion' comment from years ago?

 

 

All of that is junk not worthy even of you.

 

And the Air is still usable, practical, and decent, as long as the user

buys knowing the limitations.

"Mitch" <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote in message

news:270120081159504056%mitch@hawaii.rr...

>

> I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

> comparison to regular laptop considerations.

 

Heh, I'd say the same about this Macbook Air.

 

ss.

Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:40:58 +0000, Kier wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:35:56 -0700, Gene Jones wrote:

>

>> Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:16:38 -0500, 7 wrote:

>>> >> if you haven't bought into Linux yet.

>>> >

>>> > Rather sounds like multilevel marketing.

>>>

>>> Coupled with a religious cult.

>>

>> and horrendous software. linux is for kids.

>

> How so? Are you talking about Sugar, the OLPC interface? That's certainly

> *designed* for kids. Linux as a whole is meant for adults with minds of

> their own.

 

And what happens when these kids get into the real world someday and start

looking for jobs or applying to college?

 

Are they going to list "I know Sugar" on their applications?

That will go about as far as listing Open Office.

 

You Linux freaks just don't get it do you?

In article <O2OJkNTYIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

> "Mitch" <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote in message

> news:270120081159504056%mitch@hawaii.rr...

> >

> > I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

> > comparison to regular laptop considerations.

>

> Heh, I'd say the same about this Macbook Air.

 

No doubt.

 

Then again, you've lately been saying quite a bit that doesn't map to

reality all that well.

Mitch wrote:

> In article <eWFVdcOYIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Synapse Syndrome

> <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>

>>

>> I can just imagine the type of totally obnoxiously devoted Apple gimps

>> that

>> I'm going to see posing with those this summer. I'll stick with the

>> totally functional and useful Thinkpad X-Series.

>

> Are you saying that Apple doesn't make the same thing?

 

No, they don't

> Or are you saying that Apple's hardware isn't serious enough for real

> users?

 

Depends on the definition of "real user". Usually, no, it isn't serious

enough. "Serious" hardware is competitive. Apple hardware isn't

> Or are you suggesting that people only buy Apple to look good, or for

> that stupid 'religion' comment from years ago?

 

Yes. Although religous nutjobs would feel insulted being compared to apple

users

>

> All of that is junk not worthy even of you.

 

Well, he should have perhaps made it clearer that apple stuff is highpriced

junk

> And the Air is still usable, practical, and decent, as long as the user

> buys knowing the limitations.

 

Well, it certainly isn't even good enough to be properly landfill

--

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:59:50 -1000, Mitch wrote:

> In article <86nu65x4ot.ln2@supertux.my.domain>, Jerry McBride

> <jmcbride@mail-on.us> wrote:

>

>> For the price of one mac air... I could buy three eePC's... and have Linux

>> pre-installed....

>>

>> Is the Air Linux compatible?

>

> I don't know of any Mac ever made that was not compatible with Linux.

> Now, it's compatible with even Windows.

>

> I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

> comparison to regular laptop considerations. Come on, a 7 inch screen?

 

It's their only defense.

The entire thing is laughable.

 

One Linux loony is claiming he can buy 3 Asus units for the cost of one Mac

unit.

Yea, sure he can.

And I can buy 10,000 marbles for the same price.

 

He will still be stuck with the limitations of that device, only he will

now have 3 of them.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:28:13 -0600, Synapse Syndrome wrote

(in article <OwC#CrRYIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>):

> "Lefty Bigfoot" <nunya@busyness.info> wrote in message

> news:0001HW.C3C231B001AD3676F01846D8@news.verizon.net...

>>

>>> Daniel, don't be stupid, the MacBook is about twice the size, weight and

>>> about the same speed. The MacBook Air is easily the thinnest, most

>>> powerful laptop in the world, and will be for several years to come.

>>

>> Unless you want firewire.

>>

>> Unless you want multiple USB ports.

>>

>> Unless you want more memory capacity.

>>

>> Unless you want more storage capacity.

>>

>> Unless you want ExpressCard/34.

>>

>> Unless you want multiple batteries to quick change on a long

>> flight or elsewhere.

>

>

> It's male jewellery for posing ponces.

 

I can see how it's useful for someone that is on the road

constantly and doesn't need a luggable workstation. If all they

need is lightweight basic computing, it seems like a decent

choice. If you need to do heavy duty work on it, it's a boat

anchor.

> Sort of like the guys you see around with iPhones. Dicks.

 

Jealousy is so ugly. I don't have an iPhone myself, having no

need for one, but I don't have any silly notions about ownership

of one implying any stereotypes for the owners.

 

--

Lefty

All of God's creatures have a place..........

..........right next to the potatoes and gravy.

See also: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:44:22 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:59:50 -1000, Mitch wrote:

>

>> In article <86nu65x4ot.ln2@supertux.my.domain>, Jerry McBride

>> <jmcbride@mail-on.us> wrote:

>>

>>> For the price of one mac air... I could buy three eePC's... and have

>>> Linux pre-installed....

>>>

>>> Is the Air Linux compatible?

>>

>> I don't know of any Mac ever made that was not compatible with Linux.

>> Now, it's compatible with even Windows.

>>

>> I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

>> comparison to regular laptop considerations. Come on, a 7 inch screen?

>

> It's their only defense. The entire thing is laughable.

>

> One Linux loony is claiming he can buy 3 Asus units for the cost of one Mac

> unit. Yea, sure he can. And I can buy 10,000 marbles for the same price.

>

> He will still be stuck with the limitations of that device, only he will

> now have 3 of them.

 

And you will have all the marbles.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:30:42 -0500, Tim Murray wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:44:22 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:59:50 -1000, Mitch wrote:

>>

>>> In article <86nu65x4ot.ln2@supertux.my.domain>, Jerry McBride

>>> <jmcbride@mail-on.us> wrote:

>>>

>>>> For the price of one mac air... I could buy three eePC's... and have

>>>> Linux pre-installed....

>>>>

>>>> Is the Air Linux compatible?

>>>

>>> I don't know of any Mac ever made that was not compatible with Linux.

>>> Now, it's compatible with even Windows.

>>>

>>> I can't believe anyone would talk about the Asus low-end laptop as a

>>> comparison to regular laptop considerations. Come on, a 7 inch screen?

>>

>> It's their only defense. The entire thing is laughable.

>>

>> One Linux loony is claiming he can buy 3 Asus units for the cost of one Mac

>> unit. Yea, sure he can. And I can buy 10,000 marbles for the same price.

>>

>> He will still be stuck with the limitations of that device, only he will

>> now have 3 of them.

>

> And you will have all the marbles.

 

Which is more than most Linvocates can claim!

REPOST: Once again, Intel builds a CPU just for Apple

 

REPOST. Sent a few hours ago, but the microsoft newsserver filters posts

containing

swearing, even though I cannot find any swearing in my post.

 

"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message

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>

> macs run more software than any computer made, don't forget that.

 

What are you talking about? How can any Mac advocate argue with a Windows

user and talk about the amount of software they have available? Is this

just some dumb reference for Macs being able to run Unix programs, and the

Intel hardware to run Windows apps by running Windows itself? When you are

talking about the amount of native software, nothing comes close to Windows,

and Macs cannot even run most of Macintosh software natively anymore, with

all the processor (Motorola > PowerPC > Intel) and OS changes (MacOS > OSX)

you keep having.

> plus the macbook air is quite a bit more feature rich than the x-series.

 

LOL. Compromise is what happens when you design an ultra-compact, and to

get the Macbook Air that thin, for posing fanboys, there have been far more

compromises than ever!

 

What is your definition of 'feature rich'? So what are these better

features you were talking about exactly? I can only see a higher

resolution, as the screen is quite a lot bigger.

 

The main feature of this Macbook Air is its thinness, and there are a lot

of common features missing in it. It is compromised!

 

My Thinkpads have more than one measly USB port. They have Firewire. How

could an Apple not even have Firewire??

 

They have high speed 7200rpm 2.5 hard drives. This Macbook Air has 4200rpm

1.8" drive like those used in iPods. Do you realise that? Thinkpad X4x

series had 1.8" drives, and they moved back to 2.5" for the X6x, as 4200rpm

drives are 'performance dogs' (quote from the Thinkpad division). I think

you will find that this is going to be the biggest criticism of this laptop

when it comes out. It's going to be s-l-o-w. SSD's are very very

expensive, but you'd have to get one of those if you want better performance

as you cannot even get 5400rpm drives in 1.8" size, let alone 7200rpm.

 

And this thread was started on the basis that it uses a processor especially

made for Apple. This new small form factor was apparently planned for

Penryn all along, according to the AnandTech link posted. It's just Apple

wanted the smaller size on the older Merom core, that has been out for ages.

And by the way, it took ages for Apple to move from the Core Duo to the Core

2 Duo once it came out. I think we can expect to see Windows/Linux PCs with

Penryn chips long before we see them in Apples, and Penryn is a major

advance in processor technology.

 

I'm not against Macs for any reason, but some of their fans are knob.heads

and this Macbook Air is just a toy, made for iPosers. Have you

pre-ordered one already then?

 

ss.

Re: Once again, AMD builds better CPU for Linux

 

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:40:58 +0000, Kier wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:35:56 -0700, Gene Jones wrote:

>>

>>> Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:16:38 -0500, 7 wrote:

>>>>>> if you haven't bought into Linux yet.

>>>>> Rather sounds like multilevel marketing.

>>>> Coupled with a religious cult.

>>> and horrendous software. linux is for kids.

>> How so? Are you talking about Sugar, the OLPC interface? That's certainly

>> *designed* for kids. Linux as a whole is meant for adults with minds of

>> their own.

>

> And what happens when these kids get into the real world someday and start

> looking for jobs or applying to college?

 

My kid, who is in University, dual boots XP with Office and Linux with

Open Office and knows both.

 

Alias

Re: REPOST: Once again, Intel builds a CPU just for Apple

 

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

> > macs run more software than any computer made, don't forget that.

>

> What are you talking about? How can any Mac advocate argue with a Windows

> user and talk about the amount of software they have available? Is this

> just some dumb reference for Macs being able to run Unix programs, and the

> Intel hardware to run Windows apps by running Windows itself? When you are

> talking about the amount of native software, nothing comes close to Windows,

> and Macs cannot even run most of Macintosh software natively anymore, with

> all the processor (Motorola > PowerPC > Intel) and OS changes (MacOS > OSX)

> you keep having.

 

Most Macs can run all software, only the Intel versions can't run the

few remaining Classic apps. There are tons more OSX software than

classic so it really doesn't matter.

> > plus the macbook air is quite a bit more feature rich than the x-series.

>

> LOL. Compromise is what happens when you design an ultra-compact, and to

> get the Macbook Air that thin, for posing fanboys, there have been far more

> compromises than ever!

>

> What is your definition of 'feature rich'? So what are these better

> features you were talking about exactly? I can only see a higher

> resolution, as the screen is quite a lot bigger.

 

It's the thinnest laptop with the largest screen, has a FULL keyboard,

the keys light up when the ambient light level gets dark, it has no

unneeded ports, thus battery life is longer than any laptop of it's size

and power. has LED backlit screen, keeps its value better than any other

laptop, runs OSX, etc, etc.

> The main feature of this Macbook Air is its thinness, and there are a lot

> of common features missing in it. It is compromised!

 

No, you are thinking of "Legacy" ports. Do you really need an ethernet

port nowadays? nope! an optical drive? nope! those are all 1980's ports

that Apple made standard, now they are taking them away just like they

did to the floppy which they brought the world in 1977. Trust me, every

laptop in 10 years will work just like the MacBook Air, you are just

trying to prop up a dying platform (window/linux)

> My Thinkpads have more than one measly USB port. They have Firewire. How

> could an Apple not even have Firewire??

 

And could you please explain why you would ever need a USB port?

Everything is wireless now (in the modern Apple world) but yes, if you

still live in the (old legacy Windows world) you can't understand what

I'm saying.

 

what is this?

 

http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/wireless.html

 

what is this?

 

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/

 

what is this?

 

http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

 

you don't need firewire with "wireless migration", gosh, you sure don't

know what is going on in the modern computer world!

 

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html

> They have high speed 7200rpm 2.5 hard drives. This Macbook Air has 4200rpm

> 1.8" drive like those used in iPods. Do you realise that? Thinkpad X4x

> series had 1.8" drives, and they moved back to 2.5" for the X6x, as 4200rpm

> drives are 'performance dogs' (quote from the Thinkpad division). I think

> you will find that this is going to be the biggest criticism of this laptop

> when it comes out. It's going to be s-l-o-w. SSD's are very very

> expensive, but you'd have to get one of those if you want better performance

> as you cannot even get 5400rpm drives in 1.8" size, let alone 7200rpm.

 

so you admit you don't understand how OSX works? programs load into RAM,

they don't load off the hard drive but what? maybe once a month? Do you

even use a Mac? Sounds like not.

 

Yes, when SSD's come down in price it won't matter anyway. So wait a

year if you aren't ready to join the modern world.

> And this thread was started on the basis that it uses a processor especially

> made for Apple. This new small form factor was apparently planned for

> Penryn all along, according to the AnandTech link posted. It's just Apple

> wanted the smaller size on the older Merom core, that has been out for ages.

> And by the way, it took ages for Apple to move from the Core Duo to the Core

> 2 Duo once it came out. I think we can expect to see Windows/Linux PCs with

> Penryn chips long before we see them in Apples, and Penryn is a major

> advance in processor technology.

 

Yes, but Apple was able to help Intel Engineers to get to the small chip

size. And when you feel the bottom of the of the MacBook Air, you'll be

shocked at how cool running it is. Apple and Intel did it again.

> I'm not against Macs for any reason, but some of their fans are knob.heads

> and this Macbook Air is just a toy, made for iPosers. Have you

> pre-ordered one already then?

 

I'm not a fan of Apple, I just like quality products, you don't and I

don't hold that against you. Sure, I've actually have 6 on order.

 

How about you?

 

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