Holding my breath!

 

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnak7m$h0a$1@aioe.org...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fnafsu$olv$2@aioe.org...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fnaegu$ics$2@aioe.org...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:fnad70$ea7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:fnabn5$914$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>> Due to increase in demand. Yea 2 guys from Italy thought they

>>>>>>>>>> might need Ubuntu. They soon came to their senses and ditched it

>>>>>>>>>> pretty quick. They went back to XP or Vista and now there is no

>>>>>>>>>> increased demand for Ubuntu!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Not what the article said but thanks for lamely trying to play.

>>>>>>>>> Don't think your unimaginative fantasies will let you quit your

>>>>>>>>> day job, Bill. They won't.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>> I know what the article said. I read it. But still it doesn't

>>>>>>>> matter that Dell is offereing Ubuntu. Ubuntu no matter how you

>>>>>>>> slice it, is still a TOY, and people want to play with toys. After

>>>>>>>> users deal with Ubuntu for a short time, they will ditch Ubuntu and

>>>>>>>> move to a platform that will allow productivity.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You're entitled to your ill informed opinion. Too bad you're wrong.

>>>>>>> Windows is the toy OS and only good for playing GAMES.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> How WRONG you are. Millions and millions of people are very

>>>>>> productive on the Windows platform. Hundreds of thousands of

>>>>>> companies use Excel and Word to run their businesses. The Macro

>>>>>> capabilities of Excel and Word (Visual Basic for Applications) helps

>>>>>> people automate their tasks. You can't do this with OpenSores Office.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Look at all the developers writing software (custom applications) for

>>>>>> their businesses. Most medium to large compaines have custom

>>>>>> software written to automate their businesses. Most of the

>>>>>> development is done on the Windows platform.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Unix is great for servers in the business environment. I have to

>>>>>> agree that the Unix server is far superior to a Windows based server.

>>>>>> I have never disputed that fact.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What I do dispute is that Ubuntu would be productive to the masses on

>>>>>> their home machines. Just isn't going to happen. Unix/Linux/Ubuntu

>>>>>> must mature for that to happen and I don't see that for at least 5-10

>>>>>> years. Maybe then will it become mainstream. Microsoft may keep

>>>>>> shooting itself in the foot and we will see a transformation, but in

>>>>>> the near future, just keep looking at Unix/Linux/Ubuntu and all other

>>>>>> variations on the sidelines.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>> Like I said, you're entitled to your ill informed opinion. Dell isn't

>>>>> increasing its Ubuntu offers because no one wants it. Dell does market

>>>>> studies before they spend a lot of money to deliver a new computer.

>>>>> You are talking out of your ass as usual. Your other lame post about

>>>>> DVDs proves this.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> Wrong. People don't know where to turn for information if something

>>>> doesn't work. There is NO easy way to extract the information. You

>>>> are the who talks out of your ass. You think the world should revolve

>>>> around Ubuntu and it doesn't. I know that is your dream, but hold on

>>>> to your dreams because it just might take 10 years to it to become

>>>> true. For now, Ubuntu is just a blip on the radar. Ubuntu is FREE and

>>>> people ARE NOT FLOCKING TO IT. Doesn't that tell you something?

>>>> Imagine a FREE PRODUCT for everyone and their market penitration is

>>>> small.

>>>>

>>>> Get over it, use Ubuntu all you want but preaching to the Vista users

>>>> will just wear out the skin on your fingers.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Man, you're ill informed.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Don't think so, but I won't be able to change your mind. You are stuck

>> in "The World Must Use Ubuntu" Pretty typical for the Ubuntu Marketing

>> Department!

>>

>>

>>

>

> Yawn. Prediction: Ubuntu will be more successful Europe than in the USA.

> After all the people in the USA voted Bush in TWICE so they aren't exactly

> the sharpest knives in the drawer. Once Ubuntu gains enough market share,

> watch Adobe, Corel, etc. jump on the bandwagon and start writing for

> Ubuntu. The YOU will show up and say "I've always used Ubuntu".

>

> Alias

 

With that prediction you should rush out and purchase lottery tickets. Man

you are right on the money. (NOT) Maybe you can predict with world economy,

the stock market and the Information Technology age. Let me know how you

do. Post back next week with your winning numbers, your incredible winnings

in the stock market, and your belief that Ubuntu will be more successful

than Windows! HA HA HA.. You need more medication.

Jasper wrote:

> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a free

> OS.

 

The difference is probably what the likes of Norton pay Dell for

installing their trial crap ware but, being as I would never buy a Dell,

I haven't researched it. They do have a toll free number if you really

want to find out.

 

Alias

>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>

>> Alias

>

>

"Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a free

> OS.

>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>

>> Alias

>

>

 

 

No...its the "LINUX" con.

Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnalgn$pa7$1@aioe.org...

> Jasper wrote:

>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>> free OS.

>

> The difference is probably what the likes of Norton pay Dell for

> installing their trial crap ware but, being as I would never buy a Dell, I

> haven't researched it. They do have a toll free number if you really want

> to find out.

>

> Alias

 

You probably couldn't afford a DELL. Must be raking in the BIG EUROS with

those three companies you run. When was the last time you held a board

meeting? When was the last time you went to work? You post here all day

every day so I doubt you ever leave your bedroom or living area. Is the

nurse very nice where you live? Does she/he give you sponge baths every day

or can you wash yourself?

 

>>

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>

>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

forty-nine wrote:

> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>> free OS.

>>

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>

>>>

>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>

>

> No...its the "LINUX" con.

> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

 

False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean up

their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu clients,

once they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how glad they

are that they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it is to allow

their kids to surf on line and not have to worry about paying us again

to get rid of the crud.

 

Alias

 

http://www.ubuntu.com

http://www.microscum.com

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnam2v$pa7$3@aioe.org...

> forty-nine wrote:

>> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>> free OS.

>>>

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>

>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> No...its the "LINUX" con.

>> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

>

> False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean up

> their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu clients, once

> they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how glad they are that

> they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it is to allow their kids

> to surf on line and not have to worry about paying us again to get rid of

> the crud.

>

> Alias

 

I think you have it wrong. Your windows clients call up and ask for help

with viruses and malware. That must be true. On the other hand, your

Ubuntu clients probably call up within a week or two and ask you to remove

Ubuntu because they can't get anything to work. They then tell you how

happy they are to be back to a Windows solution again. They probably say

how wonderful Windows is and are happy to throw Ubuntu to the wind.

 

That is more likely what happens. Get over the Ubuntu thing.

 

>

> http://www.ubuntu.com

> http://www.microscum.com

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnam2v$pa7$3@aioe.org...

> forty-nine wrote:

>> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>> free OS.

>>>

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>

>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> No...its the "LINUX" con.

>> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

>

> False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean up

> their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu clients, once

> they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how glad they are that

> they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it is to allow their kids

> to surf on line and not have to worry about paying us again to get rid of

> the crud.

>

> Alias

>

 

WOW...great to hear your nine clients are happy.

Wonder how many hundreds of millions of clients love Windows ?

Quite a few...if usage is any guide .

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnalgn$pa7$1@aioe.org...

>> Jasper wrote:

>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>> free OS.

>> The difference is probably what the likes of Norton pay Dell for

>> installing their trial crap ware but, being as I would never buy a Dell, I

>> haven't researched it. They do have a toll free number if you really want

>> to find out.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You probably couldn't afford a DELL.

 

I build my own, thanks. I just built one. The specs:

 

AMD 2 4600+

2GB Corsair 800 RAM

nVidia 7300 GT (soon to be replaced by an nVidia 8800)

ASUS MB

Two IED HDs, one with XP Home and one with Ubuntu Gutsy

Logitech Speakers with a woofer

External HD in an enclosure

LG DVD burner with LightScribe

Floppy

See through case with lights.

 

So, lamer, I *can* afford a Dell but I don't like Dells.

> Must be raking in the BIG EUROS with

> those three companies you run.

 

Yep.

> When was the last time you held a board

> meeting?

 

Today.

> When was the last time you went to work?

 

Today.

> You post here all day

> every day so I doubt you ever leave your bedroom or living area.

 

You think that computers can only reside in bedrooms and living areas?

LOL! I'm in my office right now. I post about twenty posts a day and

each post takes me a grand total of one minute to type (I touch type).

That leaves a helluva lot of time to work.

> Is the

> nurse very nice where you live? Does she/he give you sponge baths every day

> or can you wash yourself?

 

Do you think your lies and insults are cute and clever? Are you trying

to imitate Frank?

 

Alias

>

>

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>

>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>

forty-nine wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fnam2v$pa7$3@aioe.org...

>> forty-nine wrote:

>>> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling

>>>> a free OS.

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> No...its the "LINUX" con.

>>> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

>>

>> False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean

>> up their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu

>> clients, once they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how

>> glad they are that they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it

>> is to allow their kids to surf on line and not have to worry about

>> paying us again to get rid of the crud.

>>

>> Alias

>>

>

> WOW...great to hear your nine clients are happy.

 

Just curious, how can you count what you don't know?

> Wonder how many hundreds of millions of clients love Windows ?

 

Giggle. The ones with viruses want to throw their computer out the Window.

> Quite a few...if usage is any guide.

 

Usage isn't a guide.

 

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnam2v$pa7$3@aioe.org...

>> forty-nine wrote:

>>> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>>> free OS.

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>

>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>

>>> No...its the "LINUX" con.

>>> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

>> False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean up

>> their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu clients, once

>> they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how glad they are that

>> they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it is to allow their kids

>> to surf on line and not have to worry about paying us again to get rid of

>> the crud.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I think you have it wrong. Your windows clients call up and ask for help

> with viruses and malware. That must be true. On the other hand, your

> Ubuntu clients probably call up within a week or two and ask you to remove

> Ubuntu because they can't get anything to work. They then tell you how

> happy they are to be back to a Windows solution again. They probably say

> how wonderful Windows is and are happy to throw Ubuntu to the wind.

>

> That is more likely what happens. Get over the Ubuntu thing.

 

Believe your false fantasies if it makes you feel better.

 

Alias

>

>

>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>> http://www.microscum.com

>

>

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnan01$32n$1@aioe.org...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fnalgn$pa7$1@aioe.org...

>>> Jasper wrote:

>>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>>> free OS.

>>> The difference is probably what the likes of Norton pay Dell for

>>> installing their trial crap ware but, being as I would never buy a Dell,

>>> I haven't researched it. They do have a toll free number if you really

>>> want to find out.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You probably couldn't afford a DELL.

>

> I build my own, thanks. I just built one. The specs:

>

> AMD 2 4600+

> 2GB Corsair 800 RAM

> nVidia 7300 GT (soon to be replaced by an nVidia 8800)

> ASUS MB

> Two IED HDs, one with XP Home and one with Ubuntu Gutsy

> Logitech Speakers with a woofer

> External HD in an enclosure

> LG DVD burner with LightScribe

> Floppy

> See through case with lights.

>

> So, lamer, I *can* afford a Dell but I don't like Dells.

>

>> Must be raking in the BIG EUROS with those three companies you run.

>

> Yep.

>

Oh yea, posting all day, making the big coin. Doubt it very much.

 

>> When was the last time you held a board meeting?

>

> Today.

 

Monopoly doesn't count. That isn't what was meant by a board meeting.

Oops.

>

>> When was the last time you went to work?

>

> Today.

>

Posting to the vista.group doesn't count as going to work. Oops.

>> You post here all day every day so I doubt you ever leave your bedroom or

>> living area.

>

> You think that computers can only reside in bedrooms and living areas?

> LOL! I'm in my office right now. I post about twenty posts a day and each

> post takes me a grand total of one minute to type (I touch type). That

> leaves a helluva lot of time to work.

 

Yea, you are in your office. Must be getting lots of work done posting all

day long. Yea right.

>

>> Is the nurse very nice where you live? Does she/he give you sponge

>> baths every day or can you wash yourself?

>

> Do you think your lies and insults are cute and clever? Are you trying to

> imitate Frank?

>

> Alias

 

OK so you don't have a nurse. I'm not 100% correct on everything. If I was

I'd be buying lottery tickets.

 

>>

>>

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>

>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>

"Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fnan41$3o7$1@aioe.org...

> forty-nine wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fnam2v$pa7$3@aioe.org...

>>> forty-nine wrote:

>>>> "Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>>>> news:OQHCjUrXIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>>>> free OS.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> No...its the "LINUX" con.

>>>> Give it away...then hook 'em for tons of much needed support.

>>>

>>> False (again). Our Windows clients are constantly calling us to clean up

>>> their virus and malware infested computers while our Ubuntu clients,

>>> once they get everything set up, only call us to tell us how glad they

>>> are that they left Windows for Ubuntu and how wonderful it is to allow

>>> their kids to surf on line and not have to worry about paying us again

>>> to get rid of the crud.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>

>>

>> WOW...great to hear your nine clients are happy.

>

> Just curious, how can you count what you don't know?

>

>> Wonder how many hundreds of millions of clients love Windows ?

>

> Giggle. The ones with viruses want to throw their computer out the Window.

 

and the ones with Ubuntu DO THROW THEIR COMPUTERS OUT THE WINDOW!!!!!!

>

>> Quite a few...if usage is any guide.

>

> Usage isn't a guide.

>

> Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fnan01$32n$1@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fnalgn$pa7$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Jasper wrote:

>>>>> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

>>>>> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a

>>>>> free OS.

>>>> The difference is probably what the likes of Norton pay Dell for

>>>> installing their trial crap ware but, being as I would never buy a Dell,

>>>> I haven't researched it. They do have a toll free number if you really

>>>> want to find out.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> You probably couldn't afford a DELL.

>> I build my own, thanks. I just built one. The specs:

>>

>> AMD 2 4600+

>> 2GB Corsair 800 RAM

>> nVidia 7300 GT (soon to be replaced by an nVidia 8800)

>> ASUS MB

>> Two IED HDs, one with XP Home and one with Ubuntu Gutsy

>> Logitech Speakers with a woofer

>> External HD in an enclosure

>> LG DVD burner with LightScribe

>> Floppy

>> See through case with lights.

>>

>> So, lamer, I *can* afford a Dell but I don't like Dells.

>>

>>> Must be raking in the BIG EUROS with those three companies you run.

>> Yep.

>>

> Oh yea, posting all day, making the big coin. Doubt it very much.

 

Twenty to thirty minutes is not "all day".

>

>

>>> When was the last time you held a board meeting?

>> Today.

>

> Monopoly doesn't count. That isn't what was meant by a board meeting.

> Oops.

 

I know what you meant.

>>> When was the last time you went to work?

>> Today.

>>

> Posting to the vista.group doesn't count as going to work. Oops.

 

Again, sigh, twenty to thirty minutes is not all day. Ever notice how

you never see any posts from me before noon? What do you think I'm doing?

>

>>> You post here all day every day so I doubt you ever leave your bedroom or

>>> living area.

>> You think that computers can only reside in bedrooms and living areas?

>> LOL! I'm in my office right now. I post about twenty posts a day and each

>> post takes me a grand total of one minute to type (I touch type). That

>> leaves a helluva lot of time to work.

>

> Yea, you are in your office. Must be getting lots of work done posting all

> day long. Yea right.

 

Again, double sigh, 20-30 minutes is not "all day".

>>> Is the nurse very nice where you live? Does she/he give you sponge

>>> baths every day or can you wash yourself?

>> Do you think your lies and insults are cute and clever? Are you trying to

>> imitate Frank?

>>

>> Alias

>

> OK so you don't have a nurse. I'm not 100% correct on everything. If I was

> I'd be buying lottery tickets.

 

I agree.

 

Alias

>

>

>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>

>

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:40:12 -0800, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message

> news:5vrt27F1o9p30U6@mid.individual.net...

>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:05:45 +0100, Alias wrote:

>>

>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?

>> command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>>

>>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> That would seem to be a good thing - CHOICE is almost always good.

>

> Actually CHOICE is great. Vista or XP. Which one should I use !

 

You can choose which ever you'd rather. I should also have to CHOICE to

use neither and to pay for neither if I'm so inclined.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:15:07 -0700, Jasper wrote:

> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows? Or

> are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a free

> OS.

>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?

command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>

>> Alias

 

On their previous offerings the difference has been on the order of $50

to $100 less - I would expect this to be the same.

Alias wrote:

>

>

> Believe your false fantasies if it makes you feel better.

>

> Alias

 

hehehe...isn't that what you've been doing all of your pathetic life?

Hey, how's computer repair scam coming along...and how is that good

karma doing?

What a fukkin loser you really are!

Frank

In article <O#mmuArXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

Bill Yanaire <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote:

>

>What OpenOffice has is nowhere near what Microsoft offers.

 

Sorry. You can program openoffice in python, its own macro

language, or YES! visual basic. See http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

 

Oh, this is vista related because ummm ahhh openoffice runs

in Windows too so if you can't afford 400 bucks for MS Office

SuperBusinessPremiumStandard you could try it.

 

>

>Of course you would say that. You have no clue. Oracle is a database

>application.

 

Look, lots of people use excel for lots of things. It's all strictly

light-duty stuff. They even stopped supporting (they being microsoft) real

statistical work in Excel in like 2000. Now you have to buy add in packages.

It's a great tool but you don't run an enterprise on excel spreadsheets.

 

If you think oracle is "a database application" you need to

look again. If programs were ships Excel would be a coast guard cutter

and Oracle would be the Nimitz.

 

Oh, yeah, this is vista related because oracle AND excel run on vista!

>You haven't been around much.

 

No. I haven't been around much. Lol.

>

>You could only wish you could afford a parachute.

>

 

I don't need a damn parachute. I'm in the Signal Corps.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:05:45 +0100, Alias <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>

>"Due to increase in demand".

>

>Alias

 

 

Has Dell every done this before on a laptop? First they acknowledge

what a POS Vista is by continuing sales of XP well beyond the first

anniversary of Vista and now this.

 

Can anyone (other than that idiot, Frank) really deny that Vista is in

trouble?

Must have been the top two members of the Italian Communist Party Central

Committee. They bought Ubuntu out of ideological hatred for the United

States who liberated them in WWII.

 

"Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>

>> Alias

>

> Due to increase in demand. Yea 2 guys from Italy thought they might need

> Ubuntu. They soon came to their senses and ditched it pretty quick. They

> went back to XP or Vista and now there is no increased demand for Ubuntu!

>

>

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:05:45 +0100, Alias <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>>http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>>"Due to increase in demand".

>>

>>Alias

>

>

>

> Has Dell every done this before on a laptop? First they acknowledge

> what a POS Vista is by continuing sales of XP well beyond the first

> anniversary of Vista and now this.

>

> Can anyone (other than that idiot, Frank) really deny that Vista is in

> trouble?

 

 

hehehe...you're really a wise ass fukkin loser aren't you.

Frank

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:05:45 +0100, Alias <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote:

>

>>http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>>"Due to increase in demand".

>>

>>Alias

>

>

> Has Dell every done this before on a laptop? First they acknowledge

> what a POS Vista is by continuing sales of XP well beyond the first

> anniversary of Vista and now this.

>

> Can anyone (other than that idiot, Frank) really deny that Vista is in

> trouble?

 

If Vista was "perfect" and selling like hot cakes do you think that Dell

would offer any other OS's on their systems? They are looking at the bottom

line here and taking sales from competitors. That's why they still offer XP

and 100.000 people wanting Ubuntu at say an average of $800.00 a unit that

the competition won't get. It's not about which OS is better.

I think MS has been open to Linux quite a bit. They do not want to miss a

boat.

 

There have been other player as well who tried to stake on Linux most

notably IBM.

 

MS clearly lost interest in the game. It has concluded that it is not a

commercially viable option. IBM also deflated on it as so many times in the

past with other things including DB2, and their other toys.

 

A few years ago right after XP came out after it became clear that Win2K had

many problems in terms of complexity but null security there was a total

chaos in the business software world. Viruses were running wild, media were

going bunkers on that, MS was stung.

 

At one point the CEOs of Major US corporations got up and told MS, enough is

enough, you've gotta take care of it or else. They got the message but it

took years for them to set the machine in motion and this momentum is only

beginning to accelerate.

 

The first thing they did was to make security upgrades mandatory to an

extent. In other words, if you allowed them to do they would download all

the security upgrades while you sleep. Before people had to keep track of

that stuff individually. They also began Vista because it was CLEAR to

everyone that XP could not absorb all new innovative security concepts.

 

That turning point also spelled a death knell for the free source. Software

business is becoming too professionalized to play with it on the Ubuntu

basis. I understand that schools in Israel may be buying WordSour or

whatever it is called because of the discounts by SUN. God bless them. They

are essentially third world, a bloating bureaucracy and they need to save

money. It is not professional software business!

 

Ubuntu is used as a propaganda tool by marginalized players who want to be

in the news and maintain their falling stock ratings. They may generate a

few news articles and then quietly sell a few shares of their "Ubuntu"

companies while the stock shot up for a couple of days.

 

This is all big bull*shit and MS knows it. They can sleep quiet at night.

Ubuntu will be dead in 5-10 years and nobody will remember what it was. You

cannot provide a professional software platform with the sole support from a

few nuts who have applied to MS for jobs, got rejected and keep grudge for

year and years.

 

 

"Bill Yanaire" <Bill@yaniaire.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fnad70$ea7$2@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

Microsoft may keep shooting itself in the foot

> and we will see a transformation, but in the near future, just keep

> looking at Unix/Linux/Ubuntu and all other variations on the sidelines.

>

>

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

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>

> Can anyone (other than that idiot, Frank) really deny that Vista is in

> trouble?

 

I purchased a new Dell XPS 410 about 10 months ago preloaded with Vista Home

Premium. It's been awesome: very fast, works great with my peripherals,

seems to be quite secure, and I've had absolutely no problems (I did have to

reseat the video card once for a minor problem). There's nothing wrong with

Vista, especially when you buy a system preloaded with it. I have two XP

systems and two Windows ME systems along with my Vista setup, and the Vista

beats them all.

 

EW

"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

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>

> This is all big bull*shit and MS knows it. They can sleep quiet at night.

> Ubuntu will be dead in 5-10 years and nobody will remember what it was.

> You cannot provide a professional software platform with the sole support

> from a few nuts who have applied to MS for jobs, got rejected and keep

> grudge for year and years.

>

 

Right. I tried Ubuntu 7.10 recently just to see what the big deal was. I

played with it a while and found nothing to be excited about. Windows 98

was better than this. I tried and tried to find ANYTHING to be impressed

with and found nothing. It was clunky and needed lots of weird setups just

to make simple things work. I uninstalled it, pressed on with Vista, and

would never go back.

 

EW

Jasper, don't be naive. It is a crime syndicate. I do not mean DELL but

those who wholesale Ubuntu for them.

 

They sell those "marvelous," low cost Ubuntu to East Europeans who get a

bootleg MS Windows Vista made in China at the same store, take the two

around the corner and arrive home with a new Vista DELL and, guess what,

Ubuntu left in a garbage bin.

 

It is an old news, the whole world knows it and what DELL can do? They have

to sell computers. If not them, somebody else will be happy to play the

charade and ship Acers or other machines overseas.

 

I am sure the most ardent supporters of Ubuntu in this very forum are making

money on this, I don't know semi-legal or illegal business, but it is in

their business interest to create at least a modicum of respectability for

the piece of sh*it.

 

 

"Jasper" <attcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message

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> Are these Dell's going to be lower in price than one with Windows?

> Or are they going to pocket the difference in price by reinstalling a free

> OS.

>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23mmh0FoXIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058561&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> "Due to increase in demand".

>>

>> Alias

>

>