For All You WPA and WGA Lovers

January 2, 200817 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

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>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even one link in the search that is relevant to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. They are all about copying MP3 files and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lovers", you will love this. Get it now or do I need

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIAA is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it now? The common denominator is that RIAA and MS want

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to control what you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "protection", MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, they did so well, their ex CEO is the richest man

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world. Course, you ignore the fact that WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to try and get people to buy licenses they

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need as well as inconveniencing paying customers

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the crackers just laugh all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software

>>>>>>>>>>>> illegally.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work

>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems

>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a bad habit of yours when you've been check mated. Did

>>>>>>>>>>>> you learn that amateur debating "tactic" from reading

>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You

>>>>>>>>> ask for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you

>>>>>>>>> to go look it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the

>>>>>>>>> mountains of Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again.

>>>>>>>> Why am I not surprised?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What content?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>>>>> usually do:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection",

>>>>>> MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so

>>>>>> well, their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you

>>>>>> ignore the fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota

>>>>>> because you believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of

>>>>>> Windows doesn't even comprise one per cent of computers running

>>>>>> Windows.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything

>>>>>> to try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all

>>>>>> the way to the bank.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>>>>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>>>>

>>>> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you

>>>> think it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>>>>

>>>>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>>>>

>>>> Considering it isn't true ...

>>>>

>>>>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to steal

>>>>> it.

>>>>

>>>> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>>>>

>>>>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help without

>>>>> having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>>>>

>>>> Tell that to Frank.

>>>

>>> I'm not a ubuntu troll like you are mr liar.

>>

>> No, you're a generic troll.

>>

>>>

>>> Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista.

>>>

>>> Wrong again!

>>

>> Agreed. You *try* but don't succeed in beng Mr Vista.

>>

>>>

>>> And suggesting

>>>

>>>> Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net in general

>>>> as 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>>>

>>> Ah, the sickness of the troll now comes out.

>>

>> Ah, the truth hurts, eh?

>>

>>> You're one sick puppy. Grow up and get the hell out of here!

>>> Frank

>>

>> No.

>>

>> Alias

>

> I love your replies because they only serve to underline your troll

> sickness.

No, they don't.

> You are one demented person and we all know it.

You don't know anything about me.

> Thanks for proving that point.

> Frank

You never have a point.

Alias

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:flfn1i$lm1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even one link in the search that is relevant to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. They are all about copying MP3 files and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lovers", you will love this. Get it now or do I need

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RIAA is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get it now? The common denominator is that RIAA and MS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to control what you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "protection", MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, they did so well, their ex CEO is the richest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man in the world. Course, you ignore the fact that WPA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't even comprise one per cent of computers running

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to try and get people to buy licenses they

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need as well as inconveniencing paying customers

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the crackers just laugh all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software

>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegally.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a bad habit of yours when you've been check mated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you learn that amateur debating "tactic" from reading

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You

>>>>>>>>>> ask for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you

>>>>>>>>>> to go look it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the

>>>>>>>>>> mountains of Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again.

>>>>>>>>> Why am I not surprised?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What content?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>>>>>> usually do:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection",

>>>>>>> MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so

>>>>>>> well, their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you

>>>>>>> ignore the fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one

>>>>>>> iota because you believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of

>>>>>>> Windows doesn't even comprise one per cent of computers running

>>>>>>> Windows.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything

>>>>>>> to try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh

>>>>>>> all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>>>>>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>>>>>

>>>>> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you

>>>>> think it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>>>>>

>>>>> Considering it isn't true ...

>>>>>

>>>>>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to

>>>>>> steal it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>>>>>

>>>>>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help

>>>>>> without having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>>>>>

>>>>> Tell that to Frank.

>>>>

>>>> I'm not a ubuntu troll like you are mr liar.

>>>

>>> No, you're a generic troll.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista.

>>>>

>>>> Wrong again!

>>>

>>> Agreed. You *try* but don't succeed in beng Mr Vista.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> And suggesting

>>>>

>>>>> Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net in

>>>>> general as 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>>>>

>>>> Ah, the sickness of the troll now comes out.

>>>

>>> Ah, the truth hurts, eh?

>>>

>>>> You're one sick puppy. Grow up and get the hell out of here!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> No.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> I love your replies because they only serve to underline your troll

>> sickness.

>

> No, they don't.

>

>> You are one demented person and we all know it.

>

> You don't know anything about me.

>

>> Thanks for proving that point.

>> Frank

>

> You never have a point.

>

> Alias

Your troll sickness controls your life. You need help but I do so enjoy

watching you daily make a fool out yourself...LOL!

Frank

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January 2, 200817 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> You made a mistake here. You are assuming that Mike is capable of

>>> logic. He's too brainwashed to love MS and scared sh¡tless that he

>>> will lose his once a month clients who come to him to have their

>>> Windows boxes cleaned of malware and viruses.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You're one sicko psycho lying troll.

>> Get lost!

>> Frank

>

> We already know you're incapable of logic. You don't need to keep

> reminding us.

>

> Alias

Hahaha...I'm not the sick linux troll making a fool out of myself in an

MS/Vista ng...you're that fool...fool...LOL!

Frank

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:flg752$4ho$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>>> DiBoy'" <none@none.not> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:flf60m$b4f$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:fldkl2$33b$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If you love Microsoft's buggy DRM tactics, you love this:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?gl=us&ned=us&ncl=1125567199&hl=en&topic=t

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Read this..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The music industry has always been a pain in the butt. It used

>>>>>>>> to be all about 'having a license to play music in a bar,

>>>>>>>> restaurant, or other public place'. Then it was people copying

>>>>>>>> music to compact cassettes.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Bear in mind that DRM starts with the product produced by the

>>>>>>>> record companies, not Microsoft...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That's true, for entertainment media, but MS has it's own sort of

>>>>>>> DRM in the form of WGA/N and WPA.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group -

>>>>>>> Submit your nomination at the link below:

>>>>>>> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> View nominations already submitted:

>>>>>>> http://htmlgear.tripod.com/guest/control.guest?u=protectfreedom&i=1&a=view

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based

>>>>>>> on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a

>>>>>>> cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark

>>>>>>> of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not

>>>>>>> frivolous."

>>>>>>> - Maura Corbett

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias has no problem with XP which is WGA. Wait up.. he did have a

>>>>>> problem with XP in the pre-Vista days, and a couple of years from

>>>>>> now, he will have a problem with Windows 7. I guess he has to fill

>>>>>> up his time somehow as he only runs Abiword in Ubuntu, which can't

>>>>>> be a whole lot of fun.. :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I have always had a problem with MS' WPA/WGA SCAM and always will.

>>>>> It's the main reason I checked out Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>> And, your slur regarding ABIWord being the only thing I use is, of

>>>>> course, a lie, and, of course, you know it but that doesn't stop

>>>>> you from lying anyway.

>>>>>

>>>>> Please note that again, you attacked me and did not address the

>>>>> content that Nina posted.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> You are the OP, right? The one harping on about your favorite pet hate?

>>>

>>> You were replying to Nina and didn't address what she said but used

>>> the opportunity to dis me.

>>>

>>>> Yet you use XP!! That is expedience on your part. You have to use XP

>>>> because the Ubuntu/Abiword combo just doesn't cut it, eh.

>>>>

>>>> At least I am true to my cause..

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yawn, I use XP for two reasons only: Outlook and gaming. I have no

>>> problem with using more than one OS. When Evolution *evolves* to the

>>> point where it can replace Outlook, that will only leave gaming.

>>>

>>> I use Ubuntu for:

>>>

>>> Newsgroups (duh!)

>>> Word Processing

>>> Creating and editing web pages

>>> Music, both ripped CDs and Internet radio

>>> Watching DVDs

>>> Spreadsheets

>>> Surfing the Net

>>> IMing

>>> Data Base for clients

>>> Personal email

>>> Calculator

>>> Dictionary, both for looking up words and for translation

>>> Scanning

>>> Printing

>>> Faxing

>>> Photos

>>>

>>> I would say that's a tad more than just ABIWord.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

>> You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

>> Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

>> Frank

>

> Wrong again, Frank.

>

> Alias

You're controlled by your linux troll sickness...you can't help

yourself...you are weak and delusional.

We all know it.

Get lost and don't come back this time.

Frank

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Alias wrote:

> Charlie Tame wrote:

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS' collusion

>>>>>>>>>> with RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see even one

>>>>>>>>> link in the search that is relevant to Vista. They are all

>>>>>>>>> about copying MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA Lovers", you

>>>>>>>> will love this. Get it now or do I need to spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change there then, eh..

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the RIAA is

>>>>>> doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it now? The common

>>>>>> denominator is that RIAA and MS want to control what you do with

>>>>>> the things you buy.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>

>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS

>>>> did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well,

>>>> their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore the

>>>> fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you

>>>> believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even

>>>> comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>

>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to

>>>> try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all

>>>> the way to the bank.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it? Open up

>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work instead of

>>> harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>

>>

>> Actually Mike it has stopped me bothering much with Windows at all and

>> in fact prompted me to investigate other options that otherwise I

>> would probably never have bothered with. As an MVP like yourself I

>> "Could" have stolen lots of copies had I wanted to, but I did not,

>> however WGA / WPA became just a nuisance and as Alias stated I believe

>> they do nothing to stop real piracy. The average consumer sees Windows

>> wherever they go, so windows = computers, it is what they expect and

>> generally accept as being "The computer", but as more screens become

>> Apple or Linux more consumers will get used to the idea. The display =

>> publicity. A few "Casual" pirate copies is, IMHO better than walking

>> into some office and seeing "Ubuntu" on the screen, people will ask

>> "Does that work then?". It does.

>>

>> So this is not really a matter of loyalty or disloyalty, rather it is

>> a matter of whether MS have made a good or bad business decision, and

>> it seems to me they are saving $1 which may ultimately cost them $10.

>

> You made a mistake here. You are assuming that Mike is capable of logic.

> He's too brainwashed to love MS and scared sh¡tless that he will lose

> his once a month clients who come to him to have their Windows boxes

> cleaned of malware and viruses.

>

> Alias

Hehe, it was not my intent to insult anybody but to give an honest

opinion os where "I" think MS may be making an error. If I am correct,

and of course I may not be, but if I am then this "Could" result in a

lot of business going elsewhere.

Big problem is that NO operating system is perfect, but some are

considerably less costly than others and as more people use Linux the

effective advertising can only get greater. Why pay $300 for less than

perfect when you can get the same for nothing.

There is also the impact from Apple, who will capitalize on perceptions

of Vista, maybe it really is worth buying their more expensive hardware

that a cheaper PC that nags you?

Both of the above could become an "Avalanche" of migration.

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Frank wrote:

>

> Your troll sickness controls your life. You need help but I do so enjoy

> watching you daily make a fool out yourself...LOL!

> Frank

You mean like this?:

Who cares about what you like or dislike or support...you're a nobody.

Got it? You are a nobody...no one cares about your stupid life or your

bullsh*t diatribes about anything.

Get lost you jerk.

Frank, MPWVG, Dec 19, 2007

You're one sick lying fukk!!! No one...NO ONE believes you!!!

You are an admitted liar...a linux troll...an atheist and proly a commie

bastard and a real loser of a jerk.

Get lost!

Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 19, 2007

Of course it will. But then again, you don't have Vista so you don't

really know now do you mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie bastard.

LOL!!!

Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 20, 2007

What a childishly immature POS lying as*hole you are.

Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 23, 2007

jake wrote:

....just his usual delusional bullsh*t from some unknown blogger.

Get a real life you idiot!

Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

You're infested with Vista demons capin' crunch. Is that a result of not

taking your meds or are you just naturally that fukkin stupid?

Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

Who the fukk do you think you are...mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie

bastard....

Go screw yourself!

Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

flambe wrote:

....nothing but a bunch of uninformed lies and bullsh*t.

Grow up as*hole and face the fact that you're STUPID!

Frank, MPWVG, Dec 31, 2007

Wrong again you POS lying linux loser.

Get a life you moron.

Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:flg752$4ho$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>>>> DiBoy'" <none@none.not> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:flf60m$b4f$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:fldkl2$33b$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> If you love Microsoft's buggy DRM tactics, you love this:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?gl=us&ned=us&ncl=1125567199&hl=en&topic=t

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Read this..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The music industry has always been a pain in the butt. It used

>>>>>>>>> to be all about 'having a license to play music in a bar,

>>>>>>>>> restaurant, or other public place'. Then it was people copying

>>>>>>>>> music to compact cassettes.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Bear in mind that DRM starts with the product produced by the

>>>>>>>>> record companies, not Microsoft...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> That's true, for entertainment media, but MS has it's own sort

>>>>>>>> of DRM in the form of WGA/N and WPA.

>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law

>>>>>>>> based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a

>>>>>>>> cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark

>>>>>>>> of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not

>>>>>>>> frivolous."

>>>>>>>> - Maura Corbett

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias has no problem with XP which is WGA. Wait up.. he did have

>>>>>>> a problem with XP in the pre-Vista days, and a couple of years

>>>>>>> from now, he will have a problem with Windows 7. I guess he has

>>>>>>> to fill up his time somehow as he only runs Abiword in Ubuntu,

>>>>>>> which can't be a whole lot of fun.. :-)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have always had a problem with MS' WPA/WGA SCAM and always will.

>>>>>> It's the main reason I checked out Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And, your slur regarding ABIWord being the only thing I use is, of

>>>>>> course, a lie, and, of course, you know it but that doesn't stop

>>>>>> you from lying anyway.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Please note that again, you attacked me and did not address the

>>>>>> content that Nina posted.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> You are the OP, right? The one harping on about your favorite pet

>>>>> hate?

>>>>

>>>> You were replying to Nina and didn't address what she said but used

>>>> the opportunity to dis me.

>>>>

>>>>> Yet you use XP!! That is expedience on your part. You have to use

>>>>> XP because the Ubuntu/Abiword combo just doesn't cut it, eh.

>>>>>

>>>>> At least I am true to my cause..

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Yawn, I use XP for two reasons only: Outlook and gaming. I have no

>>>> problem with using more than one OS. When Evolution *evolves* to the

>>>> point where it can replace Outlook, that will only leave gaming.

>>>>

>>>> I use Ubuntu for:

>>>>

>>>> Newsgroups (duh!)

>>>> Word Processing

>>>> Creating and editing web pages

>>>> Music, both ripped CDs and Internet radio

>>>> Watching DVDs

>>>> Spreadsheets

>>>> Surfing the Net

>>>> IMing

>>>> Data Base for clients

>>>> Personal email

>>>> Calculator

>>>> Dictionary, both for looking up words and for translation

>>>> Scanning

>>>> Printing

>>>> Faxing

>>>> Photos

>>>>

>>>> I would say that's a tad more than just ABIWord.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

>>> You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

>>> Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Wrong again, Frank.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You're controlled by your linux troll sickness...you can't help

> yourself...you are weak and delusional.

> We all know it.

Wrong again, Frank.

> Get lost and don't come back this time.

> Frank

And the reason you think you can tell me what to do is? And the reason

why anyone would pay attention to, much less heed, any of your

directives is?

Alias

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Absolutely! It's called the awful truth as*hole...something you're

deathly afraid of.

Get lost loser.

Frank

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:flg752$4ho$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>>>>> DiBoy'" <none@none.not> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:flf60m$b4f$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:fldkl2$33b$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> If you love Microsoft's buggy DRM tactics, you love this:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?gl=us&ned=us&ncl=1125567199&hl=en&topic=t

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Read this..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> The music industry has always been a pain in the butt. It used

>>>>>>>>>> to be all about 'having a license to play music in a bar,

>>>>>>>>>> restaurant, or other public place'. Then it was people copying

>>>>>>>>>> music to compact cassettes.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Bear in mind that DRM starts with the product produced by the

>>>>>>>>>> record companies, not Microsoft...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> That's true, for entertainment media, but MS has it's own sort

>>>>>>>>> of DRM in the form of WGA/N and WPA.

>>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law

>>>>>>>>> based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a

>>>>>>>>> cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark

>>>>>>>>> of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not

>>>>>>>>> frivolous."

>>>>>>>>> - Maura Corbett

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias has no problem with XP which is WGA. Wait up.. he did have

>>>>>>>> a problem with XP in the pre-Vista days, and a couple of years

>>>>>>>> from now, he will have a problem with Windows 7. I guess he has

>>>>>>>> to fill up his time somehow as he only runs Abiword in Ubuntu,

>>>>>>>> which can't be a whole lot of fun.. :-)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have always had a problem with MS' WPA/WGA SCAM and always

>>>>>>> will. It's the main reason I checked out Linux.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And, your slur regarding ABIWord being the only thing I use is,

>>>>>>> of course, a lie, and, of course, you know it but that doesn't

>>>>>>> stop you from lying anyway.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Please note that again, you attacked me and did not address the

>>>>>>> content that Nina posted.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You are the OP, right? The one harping on about your favorite pet

>>>>>> hate?

>>>>>

>>>>> You were replying to Nina and didn't address what she said but used

>>>>> the opportunity to dis me.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Yet you use XP!! That is expedience on your part. You have to use

>>>>>> XP because the Ubuntu/Abiword combo just doesn't cut it, eh.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> At least I am true to my cause..

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Yawn, I use XP for two reasons only: Outlook and gaming. I have no

>>>>> problem with using more than one OS. When Evolution *evolves* to

>>>>> the point where it can replace Outlook, that will only leave gaming.

>>>>>

>>>>> I use Ubuntu for:

>>>>>

>>>>> Newsgroups (duh!)

>>>>> Word Processing

>>>>> Creating and editing web pages

>>>>> Music, both ripped CDs and Internet radio

>>>>> Watching DVDs

>>>>> Spreadsheets

>>>>> Surfing the Net

>>>>> IMing

>>>>> Data Base for clients

>>>>> Personal email

>>>>> Calculator

>>>>> Dictionary, both for looking up words and for translation

>>>>> Scanning

>>>>> Printing

>>>>> Faxing

>>>>> Photos

>>>>>

>>>>> I would say that's a tad more than just ABIWord.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.

>>>> You are a known troll and a pathological liar.

>>>> Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Wrong again, Frank.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You're controlled by your linux troll sickness...you can't help

>> yourself...you are weak and delusional.

>> We all know it.

>

> Wrong again, Frank.

>

>> Get lost and don't come back this time.

>> Frank

>

> And the reason you think you can tell me what to do is? And the reason

> why anyone would pay attention to, much less heed, any of your

> directives is?

>

> Alias

Only your troll sickness can tell a complete loser POS as*hole like you

what to do.

We all know that.

Now go kiss RS's hairy arse...he love's you...you're one of his best

little troll soldiers...LOL!

Frank

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> Alias wrote:

> -------------------------------------------

> Absolutely! It's called the awful truth

Wrong again, Frank.

> as*hole...something you're

> deathly afraid of.

Wrong again, Frank.

> Get lost loser.

> Frank

Why did you snip it then? Ashamed of yourself at last?

I know what bothers you so much and the reason you are in a constant

hissy fit. If were to you go to an Ubuntu forum to spread the "good

word" about Vista, you will find that *everyone* has already heard of

Vista. Here on Vista General, however, *a lot* of posters frustrated

with the Vista Virus have NOT heard of Ubuntu. You lose right out the

gate which is why you have to resort to lies, profanity and bluster.

Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sport. Or, if you prefer,

SNORT it.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>> -------------------------------------------

>> Absolutely! It's called the awful truth

>

> Wrong again, Frank.

>

>> as*hole...something you're deathly afraid of.

>

> Wrong again, Frank.

>

>> Get lost loser.

>> Frank

>

> Why did you snip it then? Ashamed of yourself at last?

>

> I know what bothers you so much and the reason you are in a constant

> hissy fit. If were to you go to an Ubuntu forum to spread the "good

> word" about Vista, you will find that *everyone* has already heard of

> Vista. Here on Vista General, however, *a lot* of posters frustrated

> with the Vista Virus have NOT heard of Ubuntu. You lose right out the

> gate which is why you have to resort to lies, profanity and bluster.

>

> Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sport. Or, if you prefer,

> SNORT it.

>

> http://www.ubuntu.com/

>

> Alias

Wrong again loser!

Frank

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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

> <none@none.not> wrote in message news:flf60m$b4f$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fldkl2$33b$1@aioe.org...

>>>> If you love Microsoft's buggy DRM tactics, you love this:

>>>>

>>>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?gl=us&ned=us&ncl=1125567199&hl=en&topic=t

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Read this..

>>>

>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

>>>

>>> The music industry has always been a pain in the butt. It used to be

>>> all about 'having a license to play music in a bar, restaurant, or

>>> other public place'. Then it was people copying music to compact

>>> cassettes.

>>>

>>> Bear in mind that DRM starts with the product produced by the record

>>> companies, not Microsoft...

>>>

>>

>> That's true, for entertainment media, but MS has it's own sort of DRM

>> in the form of WGA/N and WPA.

>>

>

> Alias has no problem with XP which is WGA. Wait up.. he did have a

> problem with XP in the pre-Vista days, and a couple of years from now,

> he will have a problem with Windows 7. I guess he has to fill up his

> time somehow as he only runs Abiword in Ubuntu, which can't be a whole

> lot of fun.. :-)

>

Hi Mike. I can't presume to speak for Alias, but I'm not entirely sure

why someone should have an issue with XP. I don't have too many issues

with XP, but I do think that the WPA and WGA/N in it totally sucks and

take issue with that! Do you get it that WPA and WGA/N are forms of DRM?

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:flfn1i$lm1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see even

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one link in the search that is relevant to Vista. They are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all about copying MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA Lovers",

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will love this. Get it now or do I need to spell it out

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change there

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the RIAA

>>>>>>>>>>>>> is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it now? The

>>>>>>>>>>>>> common denominator is that RIAA and MS want to control what

>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection",

>>>>>>>>>>> MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so

>>>>>>>>>>> well, their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you

>>>>>>>>>>> ignore the fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one

>>>>>>>>>>> iota because you believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of

>>>>>>>>>>> Windows doesn't even comprise one per cent of computers running

>>>>>>>>>>> Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything

>>>>>>>>>>> to try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>>>>>>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh

>>>>>>>>>>> all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software illegally.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work instead of

>>>>>>>>>> harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems to be a

>>>>>>>>> bad habit of yours when you've been check mated. Did you learn

>>>>>>>>> that amateur debating "tactic" from reading Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You ask

>>>>>> for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you to go look

>>>>>> it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the mountains of

>>>>>> Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again. Why am I

>>>>> not surprised?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> What content?

>>>>

>>>

>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>> usually do:

>>>

>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS did

>>> quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well, their ex

>>> CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore the fact that

>>> WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even comprise one

>>> per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>

>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to try

>>> and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all the

>>> way to the bank.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>

> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you think

> it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>

>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>

> Considering it isn't true ...

>

>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to steal it.

>

> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>

>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help without

>> having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>

> Tell that to Frank. Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista. And suggesting

> Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net in general as

> 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>

>>

>> You are just jealous of MS success, in particular Bill Gates. Live with

>> it. Hiding in the mountains of Spain will not get you riches unless you

>> 'grow your own' in the orange groves.

>

> More lies. I live by the sea and there aren't any orange groves in the

> mountains.

>

>>

>> Truth is you don't care who gets hustled as long as you get to air your

>> pet hates. You crow about WGA perpetually yet use XP. Real work is using

>> Abiword. yeah right.

>

> More lies. I use XP and I make sure that it has no WGA, of any flavors,

> anywhere near it. What makes you think that my real work only involves

> word processing?

>

>>

>> You get to be called 'little girl' by your Ubuntu peers, so you come here

>> and take it out on people who want help in getting their OS to work well

>> for them. You are only interested in your own rights.

>

> Um, the poster who goes by the nick "Little Girl" is not me but a real

> woman. So, once again, more LIES. Try comparing the IP addresses if you

> don't believe me or are you technically savvy enough to do that?

>

> Alias

You expect me to look it up? You should read your own posts, and at the very

least live by what you write..

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> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message

> news:82416DB2-BEB6-42D4-B105-554C3C6DDFF1@microsoft.com...

>> >

>>> .. with no regard for human rights in the process.

>>

>> I think you have human rights and personal rights mixed up. Human

>> rights is about discrimination. Personal rights is about what everyone

>> is allowed to do based on a set of laws. I don't like DRM in any form

>> but it's hardly a human rights issue.

>

> Well whatever right it happens to be, they [RIAA] plan on violating it.

> A person should be able to live in peace in their home and not worry

> about frivilous possible copyright infringment at all. If a man buys a

> newspaper takes it home and reads it, he should be held to the law if

> his wife, or daughter say, happens to read from the same copy? No way.

> To put them under constant threat of legal action for so said "offence"

> [and similar supposed offences] amounts to some kind of harrassment and

> some kind of violation of THEIR RIGHT to live in peace. Someone should

> come up with the right legal wording to block the evil scheme the RIAA

> is plotting against people living in peace.

>

> Saucy

It's called fair use.

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS' collusion with

>>>>>>>>> RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see even one link

>>>>>>>> in the search that is relevant to Vista. They are all about copying

>>>>>>>> MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA Lovers", you

>>>>>>> will love this. Get it now or do I need to spell it out more?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change there then, eh..

>>>>>

>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the RIAA is doing

>>>>> with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it now? The common

>>>>> denominator is that RIAA and MS want to control what you do with the

>>>>> things you buy.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>

>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS did

>>> quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well, their ex

>>> CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore the fact that

>>> WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even comprise one

>>> per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>

>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to try

>>> and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all the

>>> way to the bank.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it? Open up

>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work instead of

>> harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>

>

> Actually Mike it has stopped me bothering much with Windows at all and in

> fact prompted me to investigate other options that otherwise I would

> probably never have bothered with. As an MVP like yourself I "Could" have

> stolen lots of copies had I wanted to, but I did not, however WGA / WPA

> became just a nuisance and as Alias stated I believe they do nothing to

> stop real piracy. The average consumer sees Windows wherever they go, so

> windows = computers, it is what they expect and generally accept as being

> "The computer", but as more screens become Apple or Linux more consumers

> will get used to the idea. The display = publicity. A few "Casual" pirate

> copies is, IMHO better than walking into some office and seeing "Ubuntu"

> on the screen, people will ask "Does that work then?". It does.

>

> So this is not really a matter of loyalty or disloyalty, rather it is a

> matter of whether MS have made a good or bad business decision, and it

> seems to me they are saving $1 which may ultimately cost them $10.

Charlie, apparently it has stopped a great deal of piracy, but not all of

course. It has made it much harder for the casual copier.

If you were producing software on which depended your livelihood and,

instead of paying you either directly or through stores, the users chose to

make thousands of copies for free distribution, I feel sure that you would

not be well pleased.

It is easy to see why WGA and DRM exist. That the measures have to be so

Draconian is a reflection on the level of the problem.

Like CCTV and speed cameras, it is an unfortunate sign of the times.

Fortunately though, many have nothing to fear from CCTV, speed cameras, WGA

and DRM. They are called 'honest' folk.. :-)

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"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

<none@none.not> wrote in message news:flgpt8$sen$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

>> <none@none.not> wrote in message news:flf60m$b4f$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fldkl2$33b$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> If you love Microsoft's buggy DRM tactics, you love this:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?gl=us&ned=us&ncl=1125567199&hl=en&topic=t

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Read this..

>>>>

>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

>>>>

>>>> The music industry has always been a pain in the butt. It used to be

>>>> all about 'having a license to play music in a bar, restaurant, or

>>>> other public place'. Then it was people copying music to compact

>>>> cassettes.

>>>>

>>>> Bear in mind that DRM starts with the product produced by the record

>>>> companies, not Microsoft...

>>>>

>>>

>>> That's true, for entertainment media, but MS has it's own sort of DRM in

>>> the form of WGA/N and WPA.

>>>

> >

>> Alias has no problem with XP which is WGA. Wait up.. he did have a

>> problem with XP in the pre-Vista days, and a couple of years from now, he

>> will have a problem with Windows 7. I guess he has to fill up his time

>> somehow as he only runs Abiword in Ubuntu, which can't be a whole lot of

>> fun.. :-)

>>

>

> Hi Mike. I can't presume to speak for Alias, but I'm not entirely sure

> why someone should have an issue with XP. I don't have too many issues

> with XP, but I do think that the WPA and WGA/N in it totally sucks and

> take issue with that! Do you get it that WPA and WGA/N are forms of DRM?

>

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> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free

> speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

> creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

> rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

> - Maura Corbett

Yes, they are as is CCTV, speed cameras, speed bumps etc. We should all stop

from being 'naughty kids' and maybe there would be no need for these

measures.

The innocent have to creep by CCTV and feel intimidated by it because the

few can't help but try to grab a bargain. We have to watch our speed, making

sure we are not over the limit because some drivers feel that they are above

sticking to the rules, watch our speed in case we have to pay out for

another $300 muffler system.

As long as we keep within the rules, we will not be adversely affected, and

the annoyance is minimal

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> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:flgbcu$gu4$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:flfn1i$lm1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see even

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one link in the search that is relevant to Vista. They are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all about copying MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lovers", you will love this. Get it now or do I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change there

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the RIAA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it now? The

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common denominator is that RIAA and MS want to control what

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy

>>>>>>>>>>>> "protection", MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In

>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, they did so well, their ex CEO is the richest man in the

>>>>>>>>>>>> world. Course, you ignore the fact that WPA and WGA doesn't

>>>>>>>>>>>> stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS' FUD. The

>>>>>>>>>>>> so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even comprise one

>>>>>>>>>>>> per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but

>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to try and get people to buy licenses they don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> need as well as inconveniencing paying customers while the

>>>>>>>>>>>> crackers just laugh all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software illegally.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work instead of

>>>>>>>>>>> harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems to be

>>>>>>>>>> a bad habit of yours when you've been check mated. Did you learn

>>>>>>>>>> that amateur debating "tactic" from reading Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You ask

>>>>>>> for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you to go

>>>>>>> look it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the mountains

>>>>>>> of Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again. Why am

>>>>>> I not surprised?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> What content?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>>> usually do:

>>>>

>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS did

>>>> quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well, their ex

>>>> CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore the fact that

>>>> WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even comprise one

>>>> per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>

>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to try

>>>> and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all the

>>>> way to the bank.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>>

>> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you think

>> it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>>

>>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>>

>> Considering it isn't true ...

>>

>>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to steal it.

>>

>> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>>

>>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help without

>>> having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>>

>> Tell that to Frank. Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista. And suggesting

>> Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net in general as

>> 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>>

>>>

>>> You are just jealous of MS success, in particular Bill Gates. Live with

>>> it. Hiding in the mountains of Spain will not get you riches unless you

>>> 'grow your own' in the orange groves.

>>

>> More lies. I live by the sea and there aren't any orange groves in the

>> mountains.

>>

>>>

>>> Truth is you don't care who gets hustled as long as you get to air your

>>> pet hates. You crow about WGA perpetually yet use XP. Real work is using

>>> Abiword. yeah right.

>>

>> More lies. I use XP and I make sure that it has no WGA, of any flavors,

>> anywhere near it. What makes you think that my real work only involves

>> word processing?

>>

>>>

>>> You get to be called 'little girl' by your Ubuntu peers, so you come

>>> here and take it out on people who want help in getting their OS to work

>>> well for them. You are only interested in your own rights.

>>

>> Um, the poster who goes by the nick "Little Girl" is not me but a real

>> woman. So, once again, more LIES. Try comparing the IP addresses if you

>> don't believe me or are you technically savvy enough to do that?

>>

>> Alias

>

> You expect me to look it up? You should read your own posts, and at the

> very least live by what you write..

It's not that hard to telnet into another box, and thereby post with a

different IP. Guess he thinks we are stupid as he is, and don't know about

that, or spoofing IP's. Then again, he MAY be telling the truth, and is too

stupid to know how to do that. I have the spud kf'd but since you quoted it,

I couldn't help myself...:)

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>> -------------------------------------------

>>> Absolutely! It's called the awful truth

>>

>> Wrong again, Frank.

>>

>>> as*hole...something you're deathly afraid of.

>>

>> Wrong again, Frank.

>>

>>> Get lost loser.

>>> Frank

>>

>> Why did you snip it then? Ashamed of yourself at last?

>>

>> I know what bothers you so much and the reason you are in a constant

>> hissy fit. If were to you go to an Ubuntu forum to spread the "good

>> word" about Vista, you will find that *everyone* has already heard of

>> Vista. Here on Vista General, however, *a lot* of posters frustrated

>> with the Vista Virus have NOT heard of Ubuntu. You lose right out the

>> gate which is why you have to resort to lies, profanity and bluster.

>>

>> Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sport. Or, if you prefer,

>> SNORT it.

>>

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/

>>

>> Alias

>

> Wrong again loser!

> Frank

Nope, it's the truth.

Alias

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> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:uG$7VkXTIHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:flgbcu$gu4$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:flfn1i$lm1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even one link in the search that is relevant to Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are all about copying MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lovers", you will love this. Get it now or do I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIAA is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now? The common denominator is that RIAA and MS want to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control what you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "protection", MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In

>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, they did so well, their ex CEO is the richest man in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world. Course, you ignore the fact that WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even

>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but

>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to try and get people to buy licenses they don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>> need as well as inconveniencing paying customers while the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> crackers just laugh all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software illegally.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work

>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems to

>>>>>>>>>>> be a bad habit of yours when you've been check mated. Did you

>>>>>>>>>>> learn that amateur debating "tactic" from reading Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You

>>>>>>>> ask for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you

>>>>>>>> to go look it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the

>>>>>>>> mountains of Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again. Why

>>>>>>> am I not surprised?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What content?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>>>> usually do:

>>>>>

>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS

>>>>> did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well,

>>>>> their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore

>>>>> the fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because

>>>>> you believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't

>>>>> even comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>>

>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to

>>>>> try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all

>>>>> the way to the bank.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>>>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>>>

>>> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you

>>> think it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>>>

>>>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>>>

>>> Considering it isn't true ...

>>>

>>>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to steal it.

>>>

>>> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>>>

>>>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help without

>>>> having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>>>

>>> Tell that to Frank. Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista. And

>>> suggesting Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net

>>> in general as 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> You are just jealous of MS success, in particular Bill Gates. Live

>>>> with it. Hiding in the mountains of Spain will not get you riches

>>>> unless you 'grow your own' in the orange groves.

>>>

>>> More lies. I live by the sea and there aren't any orange groves in

>>> the mountains.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Truth is you don't care who gets hustled as long as you get to air

>>>> your pet hates. You crow about WGA perpetually yet use XP. Real work

>>>> is using Abiword. yeah right.

>>>

>>> More lies. I use XP and I make sure that it has no WGA, of any

>>> flavors, anywhere near it. What makes you think that my real work

>>> only involves word processing?

>>>

>>>>

>>>> You get to be called 'little girl' by your Ubuntu peers, so you come

>>>> here and take it out on people who want help in getting their OS to

>>>> work well for them. You are only interested in your own rights.

>>>

>>> Um, the poster who goes by the nick "Little Girl" is not me but a

>>> real woman. So, once again, more LIES. Try comparing the IP addresses

>>> if you don't believe me or are you technically savvy enough to do that?

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You expect me to look it up? You should read your own posts, and at

>> the very least live by what you write..

>

> It's not that hard to telnet into another box, and thereby post with a

> different IP. Guess he thinks we are stupid as he is, and don't know

> about that, or spoofing IP's. Then again, he MAY be telling the truth,

> and is too stupid to know how to do that. I have the spud kf'd but since

> you quoted it, I couldn't help myself...:)

>

Your ignorance regarding the difference between stupidity and ignorance

is, well, ignorant.

Alias

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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:flgbcu$gu4$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:flg6vi$3kp$2@aioe.org...

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:flfn1i$lm1$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:fleqn5$j72$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:flel04$4o7$2@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:fle1uj$ckc$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldu4v$oh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:fldr18$n4h$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about the DRM in WPA and WGA, not MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collusion with RIAA, although that's equally despicable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why did you post a link about RIAA? I don't see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even one link in the search that is relevant to Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are all about copying MP3 files and ripping CD's.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The subject of my post was "For all you WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lovers", you will love this. Get it now or do I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spell it out more?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I get it now. You were just trolling. No change there

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, eh..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't get it. WGA and WPA are as bad as what the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIAA is doing with ripping CD songs to a computer. Get it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now? The common denominator is that RIAA and MS want to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control what you do with the things you buy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The essence is to stop pirating..

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy

>>>>>>>>>>>> "protection", MS did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In

>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, they did so well, their ex CEO is the richest man in

>>>>>>>>>>>> the world. Course, you ignore the fact that WPA and WGA

>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you believe MS'

>>>>>>>>>>>> FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even

>>>>>>>>>>>> comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but

>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to try and get people to buy licenses they don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> need as well as inconveniencing paying customers while the

>>>>>>>>>>>> crackers just laugh all the way to the bank.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Awwww, stopped you from selling copies to your mates, has it?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> No, and I resent the implication that I sell software illegally.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Open up

>>>>>>>>>>> Abiword and make yourself useful doing some real work instead

>>>>>>>>>>> of harassing others in here with your pet hates..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Shooting the messenger instead of addressing content seems to

>>>>>>>>>> be a bad habit of yours when you've been check mated. Did you

>>>>>>>>>> learn that amateur debating "tactic" from reading Frank's posts?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No. I am mimicking you..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Riiiiiiight.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When you start to lose, you run off and open another post. You

>>>>>>> ask for proof but give none yourself, and when people tell you to

>>>>>>> go look it up, you claim they have no proof.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You accuse everybody of doing what you do.. oh well, the

>>>>>>> mountains of Spain are good cover, eh..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can't address content and can only shoot the messenger again. Why

>>>>>> am I not surprised?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> What content?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> This content, which you ignored and attacked the messenger as you

>>>> usually do:

>>>>

>>>> And what happened to users' rights? Without piracy "protection", MS

>>>> did quite well with DOS through Win Me. In fact, they did so well,

>>>> their ex CEO is the richest man in the world. Course, you ignore the

>>>> fact that WPA and WGA doesn't stop real piracy one iota because you

>>>> believe MS' FUD. The so-called casual piracy of Windows doesn't even

>>>> comprise one per cent of computers running Windows.

>>>>

>>>> Conclusion: WGA and WPA do nothing to stop piracy but everything to

>>>> try and get people to buy licenses they don't need as well as

>>>> inconveniencing paying customers while the crackers just laugh all

>>>> the way to the bank.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> I guess that MS had enough with you pirating their software and

>>> distributing it amongst your friends.

>>

>> I don't do that and never have. I buy all my software. I guess you

>> think it cool to make up stories about others that are LIES.

>>

>>> Can't say that I blame MS for that.

>>

>> Considering it isn't true ...

>>

>>> They have more right to protect their property than you do to steal it.

>>

>> Read what I wrote -- and you ignored -- above.

>>

>>> And what of the right of people to come here for Vista help without

>>> having to suffer abuse from you and your troll friends?

>>

>> Tell that to Frank. Oh, you can't because he's Mr Vista. And

>> suggesting Ubuntu *is* helping not only the posters here but the Net

>> in general as 99.99% of the bots in herdbots are Windows boxes.

>>

>>>

>>> You are just jealous of MS success, in particular Bill Gates. Live

>>> with it. Hiding in the mountains of Spain will not get you riches

>>> unless you 'grow your own' in the orange groves.

>>

>> More lies. I live by the sea and there aren't any orange groves in the

>> mountains.

>>

>>>

>>> Truth is you don't care who gets hustled as long as you get to air

>>> your pet hates. You crow about WGA perpetually yet use XP. Real work

>>> is using Abiword. yeah right.

>>

>> More lies. I use XP and I make sure that it has no WGA, of any

>> flavors, anywhere near it. What makes you think that my real work only

>> involves word processing?

>>

>>>

>>> You get to be called 'little girl' by your Ubuntu peers, so you come

>>> here and take it out on people who want help in getting their OS to

>>> work well for them. You are only interested in your own rights.

>>

>> Um, the poster who goes by the nick "Little Girl" is not me but a real

>> woman. So, once again, more LIES. Try comparing the IP addresses if

>> you don't believe me or are you technically savvy enough to do that?

>>

>> Alias

>

> You expect me to look it up? You should read your own posts, and at the

> very least live by what you write..

>

Little Girl is a much more experienced Linux user than I am and as been

at it a lot longer. Please do your research before you start making

unfounded accusations.

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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message

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