serious wrote:

> If you can't afford hardware from this millennium, I suggest getting a job.

 

You wrote, and I quote, "any system". That's a bald faced lie. What I

can or cannot afford has nothing to do with it. All of my computers

could support Vista and I OWN three businesses.

 

Care to address your LIE and admit it like a *serious* person or will

you rely on more lies like I can't afford a high end computer to back

pedal your way out of it?

 

Alias

>

>

>

>>

>> Matter of opinion, don't you think? "Any system"? LOL! You mean any

>> HIGH END system. Try installing Vista on a Pent III with 256MB of RAM.

>> I'm sorry but it's not possible, sonny.

>>

>> While I'm here, can you name one thing that Vista can do that XP can't

>> do besides provide you with an added cost to upgrade hard ware,

>> stricter DRM, obligatory WGA and more eye candy?

>>

>> Alias

>>

>>

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767f6c5@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> You are dangerous.. and let me explain why...

>

> you say I don't help vista users...

>

> You are correct.. I don't help them that much, and the reason is simple..

> let me give you an example

>

> if someone was doing drug abuse, and had a problem with continuing his

> destructive habit, would you assist him in getting more

> so he would be able to continue? OR would you refuse to help him continue

> informing him that what he is doing is destructive?

>

> I refuse to help people continue to use vista unless they are stuck with

> it and cannot switch...

> because even if they do find a solution now for their vista problem, vista

> will just turn around to bite them in the tush again when they are not

> looking.

>

> You are dangerous... you are doing so much harm without you even realizing

> it.. in fact you think that you are doing something positive.

>

> By helping people continue to use vista, and by saying that vista is good,

> you are letting vista continue to be used, making people believe that its

> their fault

> somehow that vista is not working...

>

>

> that's why I call the vistaboys "the positive negatives" in other word

> they may seem positive because they are saying something good about

> something (vista)

> but the problem is that they are supporting something that is having a

> very negative impact on the whole computing world...

>

> I may seem negative by throwing mud on vista, but in reality I am

> extremely positive since I want technology to progress beyond this crap

> and people to expand their knowledge and abilities using a care free OS

> (platform)

>

> windows is a frikin platform, I hope you remember this.. it should be

> transparent and out of the way.... and if possible bug free

>

> I must note so you will know.. I have helped thousands (yes that is true)

> of people in other newsgroups with microsoft products like XP

> for years, and I never ever said something bad...

>

> vista is incredibly stupid, and it has the potential to make a lot of

> people unhappy...

>

> and thats why I keep bashing it.

>

>

 

You keep bashing it because you have nothing better to do, and you feel that

you have a captive audience.

 

 

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

 

Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I wouldn't

trust them

to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

 

Tom Lake

serious wrote:

> vista user 43 schrieb:

>> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>>

>

> Bollox

 

You only speak for yourself, boobie, and I've tried it and hated it too.

 

Oops.

 

Alias

Tom Lake wrote:

>

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>

> Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I

> wouldn't trust them

> to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

>

> Tom Lake

 

Care to address the points made or can you, like a true Wintard, only

hurl insults?

 

Alias

vista user 43 wrote:

> Dear Mr. vista user 43....

>

>

You lost dickhead... Vista is...you and your campaign of hate can not

stop it. You're really one stupid POS to keep fighting a battle that is

over and that you lost!

You're an idiot!

Frank

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:

> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

 

Hey pancho...that's an old article and Vista was not #1 on their list.

Get a life as*hole!

Frank

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>

>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>> under XP.

>>

>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>

>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>

>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>

>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>> right.

>>

>

>

> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It

> is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>

> Move on..

>

 

It's not FUD, it's all true. That's not to say that Vista won't

improve, I expect it to improve, it's just not there now.

 

--

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Submit your nomination at the link below:

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"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on

free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

vista user 43 wrote:

> You are dangerous.. and let me explain why...

>

And you are a psychotic as*hole wacko loser...

> you say I don't help vista users...

 

of course you don't...you have a campaign of Vista hatred. You're one

sick POS.

 

 

----deleted the rest of this losers diatribe----

 

Get a life you jerk!

Frank

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:

<snip>

> so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text based review

> or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>

>

 

So then why do you spam your review of vista from your website all the

time around here?

 

--

Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group -

Submit your nomination at the link below:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on

free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

Alias wrote:

 

 

....What I

> can or cannot afford has nothing to do with it. All of my computers

> could support Vista and I OWN three businesses.

 

hehehe...bullsh*t! You're an unemployed, ex-patriot, atheist commie

lovin linux lying as*hole!

Who do you think you're kidding?

>

> Care to address your LIE and admit it like a *serious* person or will

> you rely on more lies like I can't afford a high end computer to back

> pedal your way out of it?

 

You're BROKE and we all know it. You're a free loading linux lying troll.

Get lost you fukkin loser POS.

Frank

>

vista user 43 wrote:

> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

 

That my friend is a fukkin lie! So lying is now part of your hate Vista

campaign huh?

>

> now that the big guys are starting to express how crap vista is..

>

 

The big guys? Name one!

> you will see more and more and more and more people getting out and saying

> how incredibly stupid and horrible vista is

 

Only an as*hole like you would do such a stupid thing.

>

>

> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon.

 

It will? Tell us all about how that will happen you dumbass loser.

 

consider it already

> dead

 

You're delusional, stupid and just a fukkin jerk.

Get lost.

Frank

>

>

>

vista user 43 wrote:

> this confirms what I have been saying for the last one (even more since I

> was saying it even before vista was named vista)

>

> that vista is crap and nobody will want it.. everything I said, will come to

> pass...

>

>

> I wonder what the stupid vistaboys have to say now that they are seeing

> their godly vista being exposed for the trash it really is???

>

>

GD! You are a majority of ONE!

You're insane!

Get some help loser.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Saucy wrote:

>

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>

>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>

>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>> under XP.

>>>

>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>

>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>

>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>

>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>> right.

>>>

>>

>>

>> Well, Vista isn't exactly five years in the making. There was a big

>> interruption, remember? Gates & Co. decided something had to be done

>> about security. So OS development was put on hold except to pour over

>> the code and address any security issues. And they did a good job as

>> XP with SP2 came out much more hardened against attack. Much of what

>> they learned plus much more was put into Vista.

>>

>> Saucy

>

>

> Not true. To make Vista safe you need anti malware programs, an anti

> virus program, a software firewall and a router with a hard firewall.

> The same is true of XP. What's the difference besides UAC which most

> people either click through or turn off?

>

> Don't believe me? Wait til after xmas when Vista hits 10% of the market.

 

I can't wait for your stupid ignorant ass to eat glass about that

prediction you fukkin loser.

> Then the Vista viruses will run rampant as enough clueless computer

> users will have it, making it a target for phishers, scammers and other

> blue meanies.

 

hehehe...we'll see about that mr liar.

Frank

>

> Alias

Alias wrote:

> serious wrote:

>

>> vista user 43 schrieb:

>>

>>> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>>>

>>

>> Bollox

>

>

> You only speak for yourself, boobie, and I've tried it and hated it too.

>

> Oops.

>

> Alias

 

Bullsh*t!

You lying fukkin POS loser.

Oops!

Frank

Tom Lake wrote:

>

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>

> Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I

> wouldn't trust them

> to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

>

> Tom Lake

 

PC World didn't write the article, Dan Tynan did. His profile:

 

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2078

 

More:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tynan

 

More:

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Dan+Tynan&btnG=Google+Search

 

While I have your attention, Tom, what, exactly, can Vista do that XP

can't besides giving you the dubious pleasure of purchasing "Vista

Ready" hardware and software?

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Tom Lake wrote:

>

>>

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>

>> Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I

>> wouldn't trust them

>> to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

>>

>> Tom Lake

>

>

> Care to address the points made or can you, like a true Wintard, only

> hurl insults?

>

> Alias

 

Who gives a fukk about a lying linux lovin liar like you?

Go fukk yourself!

Frank

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fk92d6$ln2$1@aioe.org...

> Tom Lake wrote:

>>

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>

>> Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I

>> wouldn't trust them

>> to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

>>

>> Tom Lake

>

> PC World didn't write the article, Dan Tynan did. His profile:

> While I have your attention, Tom, what, exactly, can Vista do that XP

> can't besides giving you the dubious pleasure of purchasing "Vista Ready"

> hardware and software?

 

It's all becoming clearer now. Dan and I disagree on almost everything.

Vista doesn't do many new things but it does do the old things faster and

smoother than XP (I'm, of course, only speaking of the few hundred systems

I've installed it on. YMMV) Media Extenders work the way they're supposed

to, downloads are faster, memory is used to greater advantage over XP.

I don't count Aero Glass as an much of an improvement since I consider it to

be

mere eye candy. All-in-all, though, Vista Ultimate SP1 is a much more

satisfying eXPerience (pun intended) than XP for my users and me.

I don't say, "Wow!" when I use it but I do get a sense of evolution

(not intelligent design?) of a very good product (XP) into a product that's

becoming great (Vista). If that makes me a fanboy, then so be it. I've

really tried to like various versions of Linux (Red Hat, Linspire, Ubuntu)

but, for the effort to get them running, finding all the drivers (when it's

even possible) and learning a new system, they simply don't give me

enough advantage (if any) over Vista.

 

Tom Lake

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>

> ...What I

>> can or cannot afford has nothing to do with it. All of my computers

>> could support Vista and I OWN three businesses.

>

> hehehe...bullsh*t! You're an unemployed, ex-patriot, atheist commie

> lovin linux lying as*hole!

> Who do you think you're kidding?

 

Nobody. Who do you think you're kidding?

>>

>> Care to address your LIE and admit it like a *serious* person or will

>> you rely on more lies like I can't afford a high end computer to back

>> pedal your way out of it?

>

> You're BROKE and we all know it.

 

False. A lie. A fantasy. A stereotype. Redundant. Off the wall, wacko.

> You're a free loading linux lying troll.

 

You're a classless vocabulary challenged assh0le.

> Get lost you fukkin loser POS.

> Frank

 

No.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> serious wrote:

>>

>>> vista user 43 schrieb:

>>>

>>>> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>>>>

>>>

>>> Bollox

>>

>>

>> You only speak for yourself, boobie, and I've tried it and hated it too.

>>

>> Oops.

>>

>> Alias

>

> Bullsh*t!

> You lying fukkin POS loser.

> Oops!

> Frank

 

Once again old Frankie boy makes a total fool out of himself and

blubbers lies all over the newsgroup.

 

Alias

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'

wrote:

> Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:

> <snip>

>> so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text based

>> review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>

>>

>

> So then why do you spam your review of vista from your website all the

> time around here?

>

 

Oh, positive, Vista is the best thing since the hula hoop, although the

hoops are different, you still get spun around, but, I digress, articles

are perfectly fine and old Andre has to make a living helping users with

borked Vista installs, doesn't he?

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>

>> ...What I

>>

>>> can or cannot afford has nothing to do with it. All of my computers

>>> could support Vista and I OWN three businesses.

>>

>>

>> hehehe...bullsh*t! You're an unemployed, ex-patriot, atheist commie

>> lovin linux lying as*hole!

>> Who do you think you're kidding?

>

>

> Nobody. Who do you think you're kidding?

>

>>>

>>> Care to address your LIE and admit it like a *serious* person or will

>>> you rely on more lies like I can't afford a high end computer to back

>>> pedal your way out of it?

>>

>>

>> You're BROKE and we all know it.

>

>

> False. A lie. A fantasy. A stereotype. Redundant. Off the wall, wacko.

>

>> You're a free loading linux lying troll.

>

>

> You're a classless vocabulary challenged assh0le.

 

And you're just a linux lying POS as*hole atheist commie loving bastard!

Get lost dickhead!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> serious wrote:

>>>

>>>> vista user 43 schrieb:

>>>>

>>>>> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Bollox

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> You only speak for yourself, boobie, and I've tried it and hated it too.

>>>

>>> Oops.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Bullsh*t!

>> You lying fukkin POS loser.

>> Oops!

>> Frank

>

>

> Once again old Frankie boy makes a total fool out of himself and

> blubbers lies all over the newsgroup.

>

> Alias

 

Translation: alias is just a linux lovin lying atheist commie bastard.

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Saucy wrote:

>>

>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>

>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>> under XP.

>>>>

>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>

>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>

>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>

>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>> right.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Well, Vista isn't exactly five years in the making. There was a big

>>> interruption, remember? Gates & Co. decided something had to be done

>>> about security. So OS development was put on hold except to pour over

>>> the code and address any security issues. And they did a good job as

>>> XP with SP2 came out much more hardened against attack. Much of what

>>> they learned plus much more was put into Vista.

>>>

>>> Saucy

>>

>>

>> Not true. To make Vista safe you need anti malware programs, an anti

>> virus program, a software firewall and a router with a hard firewall.

>> The same is true of XP. What's the difference besides UAC which most

>> people either click through or turn off?

>>

>> Don't believe me? Wait til after xmas when Vista hits 10% of the market.

>

> I can't wait for your stupid ignorant ass to eat glass about that

> prediction you fukkin loser.

>

>> Then the Vista viruses will run rampant as enough clueless computer

>> users will have it, making it a target for phishers, scammers and

>> other blue meanies.

>

> hehehe...we'll see about that mr liar.

> Frank

 

He he, you're so clueless, Frank. All you do is jump up and down like a

monkey on meth with his finger up MS' ass yelling Liar, liar, pants on

fire and I know you are but what am I interspersed with juvenile

profanity. All you are is a bloody buffoon.

 

Not my prediction, btw, but Sophos, Symantec, Kaspersky et al. They are

smacking their lips as each new Vista Windows Live Messenger, IE7 and

Windows Fail hits the Net and hurriedly honing up their "Vista Ready"

new and improved "security" suites.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Tom Lake wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Just quoting a PCWorld article reduces a person's credibility. I

>>> wouldn't trust them

>>> to predict the outcome of the 1960 US Presidential election.

>>>

>>> Tom Lake

>>

>>

>> Care to address the points made or can you, like a true Wintard, only

>> hurl insults?

>>

>> Alias

>

> Who gives a fukk about a lying linux lovin liar like you?

> Go fukk yourself!

> Frank

 

Considering that you reply to my every post, you do.

 

Alias