1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

 

It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

under XP.

 

It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

 

When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

feeling more than a little gouged.

 

No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

 

We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

right.

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

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> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

 

 

None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It is

just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

 

Move on..

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are not

the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is good or

bad without you the user trying it out in the first place. With the

thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with Vista installed

so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text based review

or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

 

 

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

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> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

 

as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

 

 

want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the IT

field start expressing their opinion about horrible

vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS will be

spread all over the place..

 

Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

 

But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

expressed...

 

 

and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and may

save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

 

 

I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop... and

nobody will want it soon.

 

 

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>

>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>> under XP.

>>

>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>

>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>

>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>

>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>> right.

>>

>

>

> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It is

> just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>

> Move on..

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

 

now that the big guys are starting to express how crap vista is..

 

you will see more and more and more and more people getting out and saying

how incredibly stupid and horrible vista is

 

 

thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

dead

 

 

 

 

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are not

> the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is good or

> bad without you the user trying it out in the first place. With the

> thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with Vista

> installed so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text

> based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>

>

> --

> Andre

> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>

>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>> under XP.

>>

>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>

>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>

>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>

>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>> right.

>>

>

>

this confirms what I have been saying for the last one (even more since I

was saying it even before vista was named vista)

 

that vista is crap and nobody will want it.. everything I said, will come to

pass...

 

 

I wonder what the stupid vistaboys have to say now that they are seeing

their godly vista being exposed for the trash it really is???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

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> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

Hey $hit for brains,

 

Why don't you face it you do not have no creditability at all!, you never

back up your claims,

your so full of $hit it must be pouring out your mouth.

 

do everyone a favour and disappear back to that sad, lonely fantasy world

you once came

from.

 

Vista will long be around after your not it's here to stay, and anything

your twisted mind

say's wont change that!

 

 

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

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> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>

> now that the big guys are starting to express how crap vista is..

>

> you will see more and more and more and more people getting out and saying

> how incredibly stupid and horrible vista is

>

>

> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

> dead

>

>

>

>

> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:u7MO%23gYQIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are not

>> the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is good or

>> bad without you the user trying it out in the first place. With the

>> thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with Vista

>> installed so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text

>> based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Andre

>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>

>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>> under XP.

>>>

>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>

>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>

>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>

>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>> right.

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

go away troll

 

 

thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

dead

 

thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

 

>>

>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:u7MO%23gYQIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are

>>> not the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is

>>> good or bad without you the user trying it out in the first place. With

>>> the thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with Vista

>>> installed so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text

>>> based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Andre

>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>

>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>> under XP.

>>>>

>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>

>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>

>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>

>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>> right.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:

> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

 

 

I found the ongoing difficulties (As in ongoing from previous systems)

with explorer and such things as file copying a bit disconcerting and

the search function with it's default settings simply worthless, because

you are not sure if the file is actually not there or simply not being

seen. I hated the live search thing for XP too. It just seems they want

to involve the internet even for searching the desktop. Can't really say

that is a criticism of the OS, some will like it, personally I don't.

 

As I said earlier though the problem seems to be that it is not "That

much better" than XP so you have to ask the question why upgrade?

 

It seems to me that MS has tried to keep compatibility with previous

systems in one way but not been terribly successful, so you get the

worst of both worlds. It's neither brand new and better based on a

secure design philosophy nor is it familiar and moderately compatible. I

don't think it is "Bad" and wouldn't want to put people off if they like

it, but I think the combination of criticisms, the activation nuisance,

the UAC irritations and the cost will push folks to look for

alternatives when XP goes. There's going to be a learning curve wither

way so zero cost becomes a major choice factor.

> go away troll

 

LOL That has to be the funniest thing you have ever wrote, you are THE

BIGGEST TROLL IN THIS GROUP!

> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

> dead

 

You really are dilusional aren't you, or does the truth hurt too much, go

run to mommy tell her how upset you are that the big boys are laughing at

your pathetic idiotic comments.

> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

 

Try looking in a mirror you will see the biggest idiot.

 

 

 

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767ed8c@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> go away troll

>

>

> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

> dead

>

> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

>

>

>>>

>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u7MO%23gYQIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are

>>>> not the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is

>>>> good or bad without you the user trying it out in the first place. With

>>>> the thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with Vista

>>>> installed so you can test the operating system out for yourself, a text

>>>> based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Andre

>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>>

>>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>>> under XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>>

>>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>>

>>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>>> right.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767e9fa@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

>

> as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

>

>

> want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the IT

> field start expressing their opinion about horrible

> vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS will

> be spread all over the place..

>

> Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

> hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

>

> But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

> expressed...

>

>

> and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and may

> save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

>

>

> I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop... and

> nobody will want it soon.

>

>

>

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:%23$9SFWYQIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>

>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>> under XP.

>>>

>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>

>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>

>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>

>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>> right.

>>>

>>

>>

>> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It

>> is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>>

>> Move on..

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

 

 

Although your post was directly under mine, it was not addressed to me, but

I will pass comment anyway.

 

All you do is spread FUD, and you appear to take great delight in it. You

would rather do this than actually help anybody. You have, in the words of

the cat which starred in the movie 'Babe', no purpose.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

when is the last time you have helped anyone in here mr D.ork eX.trodinair?

 

all I have seen is crap throwing and attacking people who dont like vista

 

now enough with you...

 

 

 

 

"DX" <DX@> wrote in message news:u5fmi9YQIHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> go away troll

>

> LOL That has to be the funniest thing you have ever wrote, you are THE

> BIGGEST TROLL IN THIS GROUP!

>

>> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

>> dead

>

> You really are dilusional aren't you, or does the truth hurt too much, go

> run to mommy tell her how upset you are that the big boys are laughing at

> your pathetic idiotic comments.

>

>> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

>

> Try looking in a mirror you will see the biggest idiot.

>

>

>

> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

> news:4767ed8c@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> go away troll

>>

>>

>> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it already

>> dead

>>

>> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

>>

>>

>>>>

>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:u7MO%23gYQIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are

>>>>> not the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is

>>>>> good or bad without you the user trying it out in the first place.

>>>>> With the thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with

>>>>> Vista installed so you can test the operating system out for yourself,

>>>>> a text based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Andre

>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>>>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>>>> under XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first

>>>>>> promised.

>>>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to

>>>>>> revamp

>>>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back.

>>>>>> And

>>>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if

>>>>>> only

>>>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>>>> right.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

my post was addressed to you Mr Vista Fanboy da M.icrosoft, V.ista

P.ropaganda pusher....

 

 

FUD spreading seems to be a sport for you...

 

I mean you are supporting vista, saying that it is not crap...

 

how lower can you get from that?

 

 

 

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

news:OJBlD%23YQIHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

> news:4767e9fa@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

>>

>> as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

>>

>>

>> want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the

>> IT field start expressing their opinion about horrible

>> vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS will

>> be spread all over the place..

>>

>> Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

>> hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

>>

>> But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

>> expressed...

>>

>>

>> and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and may

>> save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

>>

>>

>> I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop...

>> and nobody will want it soon.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23$9SFWYQIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>

>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>> under XP.

>>>>

>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>

>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>

>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>

>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>> right.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It

>>> is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>>>

>>> Move on..

>>>

>>> --

>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

> Although your post was directly under mine, it was not addressed to me,

> but I will pass comment anyway.

>

> All you do is spread FUD, and you appear to take great delight in it. You

> would rather do this than actually help anybody. You have, in the words of

> the cat which starred in the movie 'Babe', no purpose.

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

> when is the last time you have helped anyone in here mr D.ork

> eX.trodinair?

 

Loving your maturity as normal, I have helped a few people in this forum, I

just have limited time, but if

you weren't posting crap all the time you would of seen this.

> all I have seen is crap throwing and attacking people who dont like vista

 

Actually I just attack you because you give out false information based on

your beliefs to people who come for genuine help, then don'

justify it because you think your "Cleverer" than everyone else

> now enough with you...

LOL, you really are funny, I guess that's what your folks said to you a long

time ago.

 

 

 

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767f0b8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> when is the last time you have helped anyone in here mr D.ork

> eX.trodinair?

>

> all I have seen is crap throwing and attacking people who dont like vista

>

> now enough with you...

>

>

>

>

> "DX" <DX@> wrote in message news:u5fmi9YQIHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> go away troll

>>

>> LOL That has to be the funniest thing you have ever wrote, you are THE

>> BIGGEST TROLL IN THIS GROUP!

>>

>>> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it

>>> already

>>> dead

>>

>> You really are dilusional aren't you, or does the truth hurt too much, go

>> run to mommy tell her how upset you are that the big boys are laughing at

>> your pathetic idiotic comments.

>>

>>> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

>>

>> Try looking in a mirror you will see the biggest idiot.

>>

>>

>>

>> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

>> news:4767ed8c@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> go away troll

>>>

>>>

>>> thank god vista will become a thing of the past soon. consider it

>>> already

>>> dead

>>>

>>> thank god I wont have to put up with total idiots like you any more

>>>

>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u7MO%23gYQIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Well, PCWorld is free to have their opinion, but then again, they are

>>>>>> not the ones to make a conclusion. You can't necessarily say Vista is

>>>>>> good or bad without you the user trying it out in the first place.

>>>>>> With the thousands, upon thousands of stores that have machines with

>>>>>> Vista installed so you can test the operating system out for

>>>>>> yourself, a text based review or conclusion is just not gonna cut it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Andre

>>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>>>>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>>>>> under XP.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first

>>>>>>> promised.

>>>>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in

>>>>>>> part

>>>>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to

>>>>>>> revamp

>>>>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel

>>>>>>> irritated.

>>>>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back.

>>>>>>> And

>>>>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if

>>>>>>> only

>>>>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>>>>> right.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Not true. Most users love Vista. It is only the few 'loud mouths' pursuing

their own agenda that make up most of the anti Vista noise. You are trying

to speak for the majority when in fact you are the minority. It is always

easy to complain. It takes much more effort to accomplish something.

 

Is there any reason why you just don't use the 'free' alternatives like a

Linux based OS? Nobody is making you use Vista.

 

 

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767e9fa$2@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>

snip

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767f1a7@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> my post was addressed to you Mr Vista Fanboy da M.icrosoft, V.ista

> P.ropaganda pusher....

>

>

> FUD spreading seems to be a sport for you...

>

> I mean you are supporting vista, saying that it is not crap...

>

> how lower can you get from that?

>

>

>

>

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:OJBlD%23YQIHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

>> news:4767e9fa@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

>>>

>>> as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

>>>

>>>

>>> want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the

>>> IT field start expressing their opinion about horrible

>>> vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS

>>> will be spread all over the place..

>>>

>>> Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

>>> hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

>>>

>>> But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

>>> expressed...

>>>

>>>

>>> and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and

>>> may save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

>>>

>>>

>>> I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop...

>>> and nobody will want it soon.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23$9SFWYQIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>>

>>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>>> under XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>>

>>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>>

>>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>>> right.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It

>>>> is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>>>>

>>>> Move on..

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> Although your post was directly under mine, it was not addressed to me,

>> but I will pass comment anyway.

>>

>> All you do is spread FUD, and you appear to take great delight in it. You

>> would rather do this than actually help anybody. You have, in the words

>> of the cat which starred in the movie 'Babe', no purpose.

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

 

 

I am endeavoring to support the users of Vista, and my name is not Mr Vista

Fanboy. I must be missing a post..

 

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Mellowed wrote:

> Is there any reason why you just don't use the 'free' alternatives like

> a Linux based OS? Nobody is making you use Vista.

 

True and I, for one, use Ubuntu and XP and see no reason to use Vista

until it has at least got SP2, if then.

 

Alias

<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>

> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

> under XP.

>

> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>

> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

> feeling more than a little gouged.

>

> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>

> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

> right.

>

 

 

Well, Vista isn't exactly five years in the making. There was a big

interruption, remember? Gates & Co. decided something had to be done about

security. So OS development was put on hold except to pour over the code and

address any security issues. And they did a good job as XP with SP2 came out

much more hardened against attack. Much of what they learned plus much more

was put into Vista.

 

Saucy

vista user 43 schrieb:

> oh the users have tried it and most absolutley hate it..

>

 

Bollox

There are millions of us out there that love it. Your limited brain

obviously couldn't imagine that number of course.

 

Another name to my Windows Mail killfile list. If you have something to

say, why not expend your energy helping people instead of throwing wild,

unfounded and grossly exaggerated accusations about?

 

--

Peter

Toronto, Canada

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767eaee@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> this confirms what I have been saying for the last one (even more since I

> was saying it even before vista was named vista)

>

> that vista is crap and nobody will want it.. everything I said, will come

> to pass...

>

>

> I wonder what the stupid vistaboys have to say now that they are seeing

> their godly vista being exposed for the trash it really is???

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>

>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>> under XP.

>>

>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>

>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>

>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>

>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>> right.

>>

>

>

You are dangerous.. and let me explain why...

 

you say I don't help vista users...

 

You are correct.. I don't help them that much, and the reason is simple..

let me give you an example

 

if someone was doing drug abuse, and had a problem with continuing his

destructive habit, would you assist him in getting more

so he would be able to continue? OR would you refuse to help him continue

informing him that what he is doing is destructive?

 

I refuse to help people continue to use vista unless they are stuck with it

and cannot switch...

because even if they do find a solution now for their vista problem, vista

will just turn around to bite them in the tush again when they are not

looking.

 

You are dangerous... you are doing so much harm without you even realizing

it.. in fact you think that you are doing something positive.

 

By helping people continue to use vista, and by saying that vista is good,

you are letting vista continue to be used, making people believe that its

their fault

somehow that vista is not working...

 

 

that's why I call the vistaboys "the positive negatives" in other word they

may seem positive because they are saying something good about something

(vista)

but the problem is that they are supporting something that is having a very

negative impact on the whole computing world...

 

I may seem negative by throwing mud on vista, but in reality I am extremely

positive since I want technology to progress beyond this crap

and people to expand their knowledge and abilities using a care free OS

(platform)

 

windows is a frikin platform, I hope you remember this.. it should be

transparent and out of the way.... and if possible bug free

 

I must note so you will know.. I have helped thousands (yes that is true) of

people in other newsgroups with microsoft products like XP

for years, and I never ever said something bad...

 

vista is incredibly stupid, and it has the potential to make a lot of people

unhappy...

 

and thats why I keep bashing it.

 

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

news:eooGhIZQIHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

> news:4767f1a7@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> my post was addressed to you Mr Vista Fanboy da M.icrosoft, V.ista

>> P.ropaganda pusher....

>>

>>

>> FUD spreading seems to be a sport for you...

>>

>> I mean you are supporting vista, saying that it is not crap...

>>

>> how lower can you get from that?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>> news:OJBlD%23YQIHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

>>> news:4767e9fa@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>> Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

>>>>

>>>> as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the

>>>> IT field start expressing their opinion about horrible

>>>> vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS

>>>> will be spread all over the place..

>>>>

>>>> Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

>>>> hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

>>>>

>>>> But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

>>>> expressed...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and

>>>> may save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop...

>>>> and nobody will want it soon.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23$9SFWYQIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>>>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>>>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>>>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>>>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>>>>> under XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>>>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>>>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first

>>>>>> promised.

>>>>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>>>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to

>>>>>> revamp

>>>>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>>>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>>>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back.

>>>>>> And

>>>>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>>>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if

>>>>>> only

>>>>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>>>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>>>>> right.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year.

>>>>> It is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>>>>>

>>>>> Move on..

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Although your post was directly under mine, it was not addressed to me,

>>> but I will pass comment anyway.

>>>

>>> All you do is spread FUD, and you appear to take great delight in it.

>>> You would rather do this than actually help anybody. You have, in the

>>> words of the cat which starred in the movie 'Babe', no purpose.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>

>

>

> I am endeavoring to support the users of Vista, and my name is not Mr

> Vista Fanboy. I must be missing a post..

>

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

Saucy wrote:

> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>

>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>> under XP.

>>

>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>

>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>

>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>

>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>> right.

>>

>

>

> Well, Vista isn't exactly five years in the making. There was a big

> interruption, remember? Gates & Co. decided something had to be done

> about security. So OS development was put on hold except to pour over

> the code and address any security issues. And they did a good job as XP

> with SP2 came out much more hardened against attack. Much of what they

> learned plus much more was put into Vista.

>

> Saucy

 

Not true. To make Vista safe you need anti malware programs, an anti

virus program, a software firewall and a router with a hard firewall.

The same is true of XP. What's the difference besides UAC which most

people either click through or turn off?

 

Don't believe me? Wait til after xmas when Vista hits 10% of the market.

Then the Vista viruses will run rampant as enough clueless computer

users will have it, making it a target for phishers, scammers and other

blue meanies.

 

Alias

a good antivirus program should detect vista and remove it...

 

aka the "vista virus"

 

:-)

 

 

 

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fk8t7b$5d7$1@aioe.org...

> Saucy wrote:

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>

>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>> under XP.

>>>

>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>

>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>

>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>

>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>> right.

>>>

>>

>>

>> Well, Vista isn't exactly five years in the making. There was a big

>> interruption, remember? Gates & Co. decided something had to be done

>> about security. So OS development was put on hold except to pour over the

>> code and address any security issues. And they did a good job as XP with

>> SP2 came out much more hardened against attack. Much of what they learned

>> plus much more was put into Vista.

>>

>> Saucy

>

> Not true. To make Vista safe you need anti malware programs, an anti virus

> program, a software firewall and a router with a hard firewall. The same

> is true of XP. What's the difference besides UAC which most people either

> click through or turn off?

>

> Don't believe me? Wait til after xmas when Vista hits 10% of the market.

> Then the Vista viruses will run rampant as enough clueless computer users

> will have it, making it a target for phishers, scammers and other blue

> meanies.

>

> Alias

Vista user (bull sh*t) posting through Windows XP.

 

 

--

 

Regards,

 

Richard Urban

Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

 

 

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message

news:4767e9fa@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Dear Mr. Vista fanboy....

>

> as I have said, vista is unfixable. period

>

>

> want another prediction? Once sites or people that are important in the IT

> field start expressing their opinion about horrible

> vista is, a true AVALANCHE of articles about HOW BAD VISTA REALLY IS will

> be spread all over the place..

>

> Now what is happening is that people are really not voicing their true

> hatred for the worse, most crappy OS Microsoft has ever made.

>

> But once someone starts, more and more and more and more will be

> expressed...

>

>

> and this is a good thing.. the internet will let the truth spread and may

> save some people from buying or upgrading to horrible vista.

>

>

> I have said it.. and you will see that I am right.. vista is a flop... and

> nobody will want it soon.

>

>

>

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:%23$9SFWYQIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> <thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message

>> news:t0lfm3pc3qevrn6gc4sf64meq4ausm1n19@4ax.com...

>>> 1. No Wow, No How: Windows Vista

>>> Five years in the making and this is the best Microsoft could do?

>>>

>>> It's not that Vista is awful. The integrated security and parental

>>> controls are nice, and the Aero interface is as whizzy as it gets.

>>> Searching and wireless networking are much faster and easier than

>>> under XP.

>>>

>>> It's just that Vista isn't all that good. Many of the innovations the

>>> operating system was supposed to bring--like more efficient file and

>>> communications systems--got tossed overboard as Microsoft struggled to

>>> get the OS out the door, some three years after it was first promised.

>>> Despite its hefty hardware requirements, Vista is slower than XP.

>>>

>>> When it debuted last January, incompatibilities were rampant--in part

>>> because hardware and software makers didn't feel any urgency to revamp

>>> their products to work with the new OS. The user account controls that

>>> were supposed to make users feel safer just made them feel irritated.

>>> And at $399 ($299 upgrade) for Windows Ultimate, we couldn't help

>>> feeling more than a little gouged.

>>>

>>> No wonder so many users are clinging to XP like shipwrecked sailors to

>>> a life raft, while others who made the upgrade are switching back. And

>>> when the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple

>>> MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe.

>>>

>>> We have no doubt Vista will come to dominate the PC landscape, if only

>>> because it will become increasingly hard to buy a new machine that

>>> doesn't have it pre-installed. And that's disappointing in its own

>>> right.

>>>

>>

>>

>> None of this allows for any improvements during Vista's second year. It

>> is just endeavoring to spread more FUD..

>>

>> Move on..

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

If you can't afford hardware from this millennium, I suggest getting a job.

 

 

>

> Matter of opinion, don't you think? "Any system"? LOL! You mean any HIGH

> END system. Try installing Vista on a Pent III with 256MB of RAM. I'm

> sorry but it's not possible, sonny.

>

> While I'm here, can you name one thing that Vista can do that XP can't

> do besides provide you with an added cost to upgrade hard ware, stricter

> DRM, obligatory WGA and more eye candy?

>

> Alias

>

>