That is what wharf rat said in essence. He used a highly metaphorical

language, though, almost Shakespeare like.

 

"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message

news:umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> My rule is simple, and written policy.

> Install a registry cleaner (or other unauthorized software) and face

> disciplinary action.

>

> Unless you're a super geek, using a registry cleaner is like trying to

> disarm a nuke with fingernail clippers.

> To be honest, if you actually need to clean the registry, you probably

> aren't qualified to do so.

>

> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

> news:fot7tc$6gk$1@reader2.panix.com...

>> In article <E19A7D1E-76DD-4632-9F9C-D82996894FCE@microsoft.com>,

>> Martin <Martin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>Most seem to advise caution when using registry cleaners,

>>

>> Fer shure. For one thing, never breathe the fumes. And always

>> use rubber gloves when you're cleaning your registry. Also keep away

>> from children. (Keep the cleaner away. You're probably safe enough.)

>>

>> FWIW, I have XP boxes that have run for many years with no

>> attention to the registry, and they've had much installation and de-

>> installation. I think this used to be more of a problem with 9x.

>>

>

>

>Perhaps any build-up in the registry is a bit like all those redundant bits

>of our DNA - they are there but don't do any harm or slow us down

>appreciably.

 

This is very true and it is because the system knows the address or relative

offset for it to get any information from the registry. It does not go thru

the hives one by one. On top of that it is not a single file but a few.

 

 

"Doug" <doug@FAKEpleasereplytogroup.com> wrote in message

news:etGQotjbIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Agreed. This was discussed at great length and with some fervour about six

> months back, and from what I remember the consensus that eventually

> emerged was NEVER to use registry cleaners with Vista.

>

> I had been addicted to them, and used three in rotation each day along

> with a compacting routine in one of them. The more little annoyances that

> crept in to my system the more avidly I decontaminated my system with the

> registry cleaners until it all crashed catastrophically. After that I

> reinstalled Windows Vista and I have never used a registry cleaner since.

> My system has remained stable for months.

>

> Perhaps any build-up in the registry is a bit like all those redundant

> bits of our DNA - they are there but don't do any harm or slow us down

> appreciably. I suppose you could say I was a control freak, but that now

> I've gone rather more organic :)

>

> "Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message

> news:umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> My rule is simple, and written policy. Install a registry cleaner (or

>> other unauthorised software) and face disciplinary action.

>

In article <umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

Not Me <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote:

>My rule is simple, and written policy.

>Install a registry cleaner (or other unauthorized software) and face

>disciplinary action.

>

 

Lol, you're either the V.P. or ISM... If I tried that kind

of Draconian heavy-handedness I don't think I'd last too long. My

rules a lot simpler: Blow up your PC and I'll restore the standard

image. When I get time :-) People who ring the IDS get blocked, and

truly secure networks have dedicated hardware so I'm not concerned with

someone attaching a corrupt system to a sensitive network...

>Unless you're a super geek, using a registry cleaner is like trying to

>disarm a nuke with fingernail clippers.

 

Well, gee, I dunno, I've experimented with commercial products

and don't see the need (i.e. no difference between before and after) but

can't ever recall a problem that wasn't easily fixable.

 

IMHO there's no reason to treat a laptop like a portable nuclear

reactor. It's just a PC. And users are like kids :-) treat 'em with

respect and give them room to learn and you'll have smarter users than if

you nail everything down and give 'em all restricted shells that output

rude comments if they try to read cnn.com. Besides, I'm not a babysitter.

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

news:fouve9$2te$1@reader2.panix.com...

> In article <umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

> Not Me <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote:

>>My rule is simple, and written policy.

>>Install a registry cleaner (or other unauthorized software) and face

>>disciplinary action.

>>

>

> Lol, you're either the V.P. or ISM... If I tried that kind

> of Draconian heavy-handedness I don't think I'd last too long. My

> rules a lot simpler: Blow up your PC and I'll restore the standard

> image. When I get time :-) People who ring the IDS get blocked, and

> truly secure networks have dedicated hardware so I'm not concerned with

> someone attaching a corrupt system to a sensitive network...

>

>>Unless you're a super geek, using a registry cleaner is like trying to

>>disarm a nuke with fingernail clippers.

>

> Well, gee, I dunno, I've experimented with commercial products

> and don't see the need (i.e. no difference between before and after) but

> can't ever recall a problem that wasn't easily fixable.

>

> IMHO there's no reason to treat a laptop like a portable nuclear

> reactor. It's just a PC. And users are like kids :-) treat 'em with

> respect and give them room to learn and you'll have smarter users than if

> you nail everything down and give 'em all restricted shells that output

> rude comments if they try to read cnn.com. Besides, I'm not a babysitter.

>

You know, I am getting tired of UAC. Stinks like rotten tomatoes.

I'll turn it off AFTER i download Mandriva Linux. Testing it to see what

changed so far.

I love Mandriva linux. Its the easiest one to work work. to install a

program, merely enter your root password.

Surprise. You, as the user and sysop, have complete control over your

desktop.

My mother is talking about upgrading me to a freebsd computer soon. Hope its

a MAC.

I really love the products they have to offer. After 18 years of MS, it will

be good to get back

to my old programming ways without worrying about the next OS upgrade or

that constant hacker who thinks your

client PC is a file server and can take anything on it without permission.

I share files with my mother and father. (they are in their 60's, I am in my

40's.

I share files through the public document folder. I can't figure out how to

share between the three on a private network.

The number got messed of on the router/modem. they are not the same ones we

started with last year.

Never use a registry cleaner. I found out the hard way when Windows Live

Messenger would no no longer work.

I had restore all the changes and restart the Vista PC.

Does not matter. I was experimenting with it, figuring out how it works.

That cleaner was a POS.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:12 -0800, Malke wrote:

> If you decide to use CCleaner, I'd give the registry tool portion

> a miss.

 

Why? It just seems to identify missing files in data values and

removes the corresponding keys. Nothing wrong with that - is there?

 

--

Chris Game

 

Computers are only human.

For the wharf rat

Highly amusing! LOL

Thanks

--

Martin

 

 

"the wharf rat" wrote:

> In article <E19A7D1E-76DD-4632-9F9C-D82996894FCE@microsoft.com>,

> Martin <Martin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >

> >Most seem to advise caution when using registry cleaners,

>

> Fer shure. For one thing, never breathe the fumes. And always

> use rubber gloves when you're cleaning your registry. Also keep away

> from children. (Keep the cleaner away. You're probably safe enough.)

>

> FWIW, I have XP boxes that have run for many years with no

> attention to the registry, and they've had much installation and de-

> installation. I think this used to be more of a problem with 9x.

>

>