I have a laptop set up with XPpro and Vista Ultimate in dual boot.

( I need XPp for productivity while I get used to Vista and Office 07 )

 

....anyhooo. Vista mail ( I think) started throwing a wobbly with Vista

popping up messages that one of the files were corrupt and needing to run

chkdsk. Well after an hour it was racing through a list of files all in

E:\$security all corrupt and requiring chkdsk run. - OK so I scheduled a

chkdsk.

 

On re-boot the Vista partition wouldn't boot saying the Hardware had changed

( untrue ) and needing a repair build.

OK... booted to the XPpro part and chkdsk ran on the Vista (E:\) partition

deleting heaps, including indexes and security and whatnot else... ( Seeing

a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late... not entirely sure it's to do

with large drives as per the KB either ... )

 

SO.... Here I am in the XP partition ( Vista unbootable ) and trying to

access the most recent files that were on my Vista Desktop, and MyDocs...

however I can't.

I can see the E:\Docs and settings but chant change the permission from

"Read Only" and there are no extended NTFS permissions so I can Take

Ownership..

 

Question then:

From the XPpro Partition how can I retrieve files in the Vista Partition ?

( .....lets assume for a moment that I can't repair the Vista Boot )

 

----

Henry Craven

Henry

 

With a dual boot situation neither operating sytem should be able to the

partition containing the other operating system! You should only allow

both operating system to see data files.

 

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

"Henry Craven {MVP}" <Sme@nevernever.lan> wrote in message

news:e7tGn8IwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I have a laptop set up with XPpro and Vista Ultimate in dual boot.

> ( I need XPp for productivity while I get used to Vista and Office

> 07 )

>

> ...anyhooo. Vista mail ( I think) started throwing a wobbly with Vista

> popping up messages that one of the files were corrupt and needing to

> run chkdsk. Well after an hour it was racing through a list of files

> all in E:\$security all corrupt and requiring chkdsk run. - OK so I

> scheduled a chkdsk.

>

> On re-boot the Vista partition wouldn't boot saying the Hardware had

> changed ( untrue ) and needing a repair build.

> OK... booted to the XPpro part and chkdsk ran on the Vista (E:\)

> partition deleting heaps, including indexes and security and whatnot

> else... ( Seeing a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late... not

> entirely sure it's to do with large drives as per the KB either ... )

>

> SO.... Here I am in the XP partition ( Vista unbootable ) and trying

> to access the most recent files that were on my Vista Desktop, and

> MyDocs... however I can't.

> I can see the E:\Docs and settings but chant change the permission

> from "Read Only" and there are no extended NTFS permissions so I can

> Take Ownership..

>

> Question then:

> From the XPpro Partition how can I retrieve files in the Vista

> Partition ?

> ( .....lets assume for a moment that I can't repair the Vista Boot )

>

> ----

> Henry Craven

>

Perhaps you missed the question...

Can I repeat again:

From the XPpro Partition how can I retrieve files in the Vista Partition ?

 

--

Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}

 

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:upzzXKJwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Henry

>

> With a dual boot situation neither operating sytem should be able to the

> partition containing the other operating system! You should only allow

> both operating system to see data files.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Gerry

> ~~~~

> FCA

> Stourport, England

> Enquire, plan and execute

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> "Henry Craven {MVP}" <Sme@nevernever.lan> wrote in message

> news:e7tGn8IwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I have a laptop set up with XPpro and Vista Ultimate in dual boot.

>> ( I need XPp for productivity while I get used to Vista and Office

>> 07 )

>>

>> ...anyhooo. Vista mail ( I think) started throwing a wobbly with Vista

>> popping up messages that one of the files were corrupt and needing to

>> run chkdsk. Well after an hour it was racing through a list of files

>> all in E:\$security all corrupt and requiring chkdsk run. - OK so I

>> scheduled a chkdsk.

>>

>> On re-boot the Vista partition wouldn't boot saying the Hardware had

>> changed ( untrue ) and needing a repair build.

>> OK... booted to the XPpro part and chkdsk ran on the Vista (E:\)

>> partition deleting heaps, including indexes and security and whatnot

>> else... ( Seeing a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late... not

>> entirely sure it's to do with large drives as per the KB either ... )

>>

>> SO.... Here I am in the XP partition ( Vista unbootable ) and trying

>> to access the most recent files that were on my Vista Desktop, and

>> MyDocs... however I can't.

>> I can see the E:\Docs and settings but chant change the permission

>> from "Read Only" and there are no extended NTFS permissions so I can

>> Take Ownership..

>>

>> Question then:

>> From the XPpro Partition how can I retrieve files in the Vista

>> Partition ?

>> ( .....lets assume for a moment that I can't repair the Vista Boot )

>>

>> ----

>> Henry Craven

>>

>

>

>

Hello Henry,

 

First off, can you check via Folder Options in XP - uncheck 'Use Simple File

Sharing', that should enable the Security tab. With the Security tab

enabled you should be able to take ownership of the needed folders.

 

You're looking to get access to E:\Users\Henry\Desktop and

E:\Users\Henry\Documents - ignore Documents and Settings, it's not a folder,

it's a junction.

 

 

 

--

Jane, not plain ) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation -)

MVP Windows Shell/User

 

"Henry Craven {MVP}" <Sme@nevernever.lan> wrote in message

news:e7tGn8IwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I have a laptop set up with XPpro and Vista Ultimate in dual boot.

> ( I need XPp for productivity while I get used to Vista and Office 07 )

>

> ...anyhooo. Vista mail ( I think) started throwing a wobbly with Vista

> popping up messages that one of the files were corrupt and needing to run

> chkdsk. Well after an hour it was racing through a list of files all in

> E:\$security all corrupt and requiring chkdsk run. - OK so I scheduled a

> chkdsk.

>

> On re-boot the Vista partition wouldn't boot saying the Hardware had

> changed ( untrue ) and needing a repair build.

> OK... booted to the XPpro part and chkdsk ran on the Vista (E:\) partition

> deleting heaps, including indexes and security and whatnot else... (

> Seeing a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late... not entirely sure

> it's to do with large drives as per the KB either ... )

>

> SO.... Here I am in the XP partition ( Vista unbootable ) and trying to

> access the most recent files that were on my Vista Desktop, and MyDocs...

> however I can't.

> I can see the E:\Docs and settings but chant change the permission from

> "Read Only" and there are no extended NTFS permissions so I can Take

> Ownership..

>

> Question then:

> From the XPpro Partition how can I retrieve files in the Vista Partition ?

> ( .....lets assume for a moment that I can't repair the Vista Boot )

>

> ----

> Henry Craven

>

Cheers Jane, you're right on the money.

( It complained a lot but eventually gave me enough permission... )

and now that I have the files safely copied off I can go do battle with

Vista again :-)

 

As an aside,

....any idea what the story is with this increase in Chkdsk issues ?

 

--

Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}

 

 

"Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

news:3FFD171B-4DAB-421E-9C01-05BE4287C03C@microsoft.com...

> Hello Henry,

>

> First off, can you check via Folder Options in XP - uncheck 'Use Simple

> File Sharing', that should enable the Security tab. With the Security tab

> enabled you should be able to take ownership of the needed folders.

>

> You're looking to get access to E:\Users\Henry\Desktop and

> E:\Users\Henry\Documents - ignore Documents and Settings, it's not a

> folder, it's a junction.

>

>

> --

> Jane, not plain ) 64 bit enabled :-)

> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation -)

> MVP Windows Shell/User

If by "Seeing a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late" you mean you've

had multiple instances of file problems, it may indicate a cascading

development of bad sectors on your hard drive. It would be advisable to

backup your files and the run chkdsk /r to check for bad sectors.

--

 

"Henry Craven {MVP}" <Sme@nevernever.lan> wrote in message

news:ulBnwMKwHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Cheers Jane, you're right on the money.

> ( It complained a lot but eventually gave me enough permission... )

> and now that I have the files safely copied off I can go do battle with

> Vista again :-)

>

> As an aside,

> ...any idea what the story is with this increase in Chkdsk issues ?

>

> --

> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}

>

>

> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> news:3FFD171B-4DAB-421E-9C01-05BE4287C03C@microsoft.com...

>> Hello Henry,

>>

>> First off, can you check via Folder Options in XP - uncheck 'Use Simple

>> File Sharing', that should enable the Security tab. With the Security

>> tab enabled you should be able to take ownership of the needed folders.

>>

>> You're looking to get access to E:\Users\Henry\Desktop and

>> E:\Users\Henry\Documents - ignore Documents and Settings, it's not a

>> folder, it's a junction.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Jane, not plain ) 64 bit enabled :-)

>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation -)

>> MVP Windows Shell/User

>

>

Hi Henry,

 

It does seem odd that there have been so many issues of late with chkdsk.

There is a post here in this newsgroup from 'MICHAEL' with an interesting

link:

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Kaspersky-AV-Breaking-CHKDSK-85517

 

I don't know if that would impact any SBSers - is Kaspersky used on servers

much?

 

--

Jane, not plain ) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation -)

MVP Windows Shell/User

"Henry Craven {MVP}" <Sme@nevernever.lan> wrote in message

news:ulBnwMKwHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Cheers Jane, you're right on the money.

> ( It complained a lot but eventually gave me enough permission... )

> and now that I have the files safely copied off I can go do battle with

> Vista again :-)

>

> As an aside,

> ...any idea what the story is with this increase in Chkdsk issues ?

>

> --

> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}

>

>

> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> news:3FFD171B-4DAB-421E-9C01-05BE4287C03C@microsoft.com...

>> Hello Henry,

>>

>> First off, can you check via Folder Options in XP - uncheck 'Use Simple

>> File Sharing', that should enable the Security tab. With the Security

>> tab enabled you should be able to take ownership of the needed folders.

>>

>> You're looking to get access to E:\Users\Henry\Desktop and

>> E:\Users\Henry\Documents - ignore Documents and Settings, it's not a

>> folder, it's a junction.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Jane, not plain ) 64 bit enabled :-)

>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation -)

>> MVP Windows Shell/User

>

>

Drives ( plural )

.....seeing this across at least a half dozen peoples systems in the last

couple of months.- Time was you never heard or saw a peep from Chkdsk - so

much so people were forgetting it was there.

 

----

Henry Craven

 

"GTS" <x@y.net> wrote in message

news:%23rcYQ5KwHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> If by "Seeing a lot of this chkdsk hosing drives of late" you mean you've

> had multiple instances of file problems, it may indicate a cascading

> development of bad sectors on your hard drive. It would be advisable to

> backup your files and the run chkdsk /r to check for bad sectors.

> --

Thanks Jane,

....yes I read that when looking for solutions prior to posting

.... my "due-diligence" :-)

 

Used to love Kaspersky, but it became too much of a system overhead and

performance killer. Certainly not using it on XPpro or Vista boxes.

As we're moving more and more into The Exchange 2007 era we're using

Forefront and it's packaged with that but we're still turning it off

currently.

 

--

Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}

 

 

 

"Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

news:5B2BFEFF-4D5B-466E-A629-8B88E0695612@microsoft.com...

> Hi Henry,

>

> It does seem odd that there have been so many issues of late with chkdsk.

> There is a post here in this newsgroup from 'MICHAEL' with an interesting

> link:

> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Kaspersky-AV-Breaking-CHKDSK-85517

>

> I don't know if that would impact any SBSers - is Kaspersky used on

> servers much?