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Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from

Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia

look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier versions.

The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP Pro box,

and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each other. The few

software issues am still having may mostly need to be addressed by the

software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up that area.

 

Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what

you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

nVidia.

 

First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my access

to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control Panel /

System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor Speed',

and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed, but

missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the index.

'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience Index base

score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check it, and when

the last rating was done, but no links or other means of checking.

 

The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server. Vista

seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I can

print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's delay

(still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs (Notepad,

WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I have come to

expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get impatient and kill

the application off. It is only when I try to print that the problem

occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty well normally. I

suspect that it has something to do with the way the Vista and XP boxes talk

to each other about the process, but I have no other problems in Network

communications. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the printers, to

no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP box, they both work perfectly

Can anyone give me some pointers (in layman's terms, please) that may help

me to fix this issue?

 

R.

(beating head on desk) Update.

 

And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet

one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost

instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

 

R.

 

"Romane" <romane@miscellanie.com> wrote in message

news:eb9%230tIwHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

> flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from

> Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

> somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia

> look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier

> versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP

> Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each

> other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be

> addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up

> that area.

>

> Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what

> you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

> memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

> D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

> nVidia.

>

> First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my

> access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control

> Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor

> Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,

> but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the

> index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience

> Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check

> it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of

> checking.

>

> The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.

> Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I

> can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's

> delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

> impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs

> (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I

> have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get

> impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print

> that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty

> well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the

> Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no

> other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and

> reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP

> box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in

> layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?

>

> R.

1St Prob - See if this applies -

http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/152/1/

 

2nd Prob. - Still working on it!!!!!!!!!!

--

Regards

Bob J

 

 

"Romane" wrote:

> (beating head on desk) Update.

>

> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet

> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost

> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

>

> R.

>

> "Romane" <romane@miscellanie.com> wrote in message

> news:eb9%230tIwHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from

> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia

> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier

> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP

> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each

> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be

> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up

> > that area.

> >

> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what

> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

> > nVidia.

> >

> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my

> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control

> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor

> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,

> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the

> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience

> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check

> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of

> > checking.

> >

> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.

> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I

> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's

> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs

> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I

> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get

> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print

> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty

> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the

> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no

> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and

> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP

> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in

> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?

> >

> > R.

>

>

I was once told to install the printer river on both machine (does the

printer have Vista driver) My set up is the other way around - no problems)

--

Regards

Bob J

 

 

"Romane" wrote:

> (beating head on desk) Update.

>

> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried (yet

> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost

> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

>

> R.

>

> "Romane" <romane@miscellanie.com> wrote in message

> news:eb9%230tIwHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers from

> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from nVidia

> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier

> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an XP

> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each

> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be

> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following up

> > that area.

> >

> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea what

> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

> > nVidia.

> >

> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my

> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via 'Control

> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and Processor

> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be detailed,

> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the

> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience

> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can check

> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of

> > checking.

> >

> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.

> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner. I

> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a minute's

> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs

> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I

> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get

> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print

> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise pretty

> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the

> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no

> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and

> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the XP

> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in

> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?

> >

> > R.

>

>

Aaaah. Bickies in tea (dunka). The first solution on the page gave me back

what I was looking for. It appears to have reverted to an earlier point,

however - had installed an external (USB) Digital TV receiver, redone the

index as it said I had new hardware, and now it again said I had new

hardware, but I haven't. However, all now hunky dory. Be damned if I know

why that little switch fell over - never played with area in Vista too much

to learn about the rest of the system first.

 

As for the printer, with the fact that after a number of hours it worked

almost like lightening, that would suggest that Vista and XP had a little

time trying to negotiate the access, and finally came to an agreement. Will

be most frustrating if cannot find a way to speed that process up.

 

R.

 

"Bob J" <BobJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5AB14AF1-2AD1-4F36-BE90-60712682D743@microsoft.com...

> 1St Prob - See if this applies -

> http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/152/1/

>

> 2nd Prob. - Still working on it!!!!!!!!!!

> --

> Regards

> Bob J

>

>

> "Romane" wrote:

>

>> (beating head on desk) Update.

>>

>> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried

>> (yet

>> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost

>> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

>>

>> R.

>>

>> "Romane" <romane@miscellanie.com> wrote in message

>> news:eb9%230tIwHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

>> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers

>> > from

>> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

>> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from

>> > nVidia

>> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier

>> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an

>> > XP

>> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each

>> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be

>> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following

>> > up

>> > that area.

>> >

>> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea

>> > what

>> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

>> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

>> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

>> > nVidia.

>> >

>> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my

>> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via

>> > 'Control

>> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and

>> > Processor

>> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be

>> > detailed,

>> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the

>> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience

>> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can

>> > check

>> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of

>> > checking.

>> >

>> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.

>> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner.

>> > I

>> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a

>> > minute's

>> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

>> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs

>> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I

>> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get

>> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print

>> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise

>> > pretty

>> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the

>> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no

>> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and

>> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the

>> > XP

>> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in

>> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?

>> >

>> > R.

>>

>>

No, have not tried that yet - to be honest, had not even thought about it

due to other major priorities in using the beast. Allowed Vista to do its

own thing. Will try that when next get a few free moments.

 

R.

 

"Bob J" <BobJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FE600C26-0294-4410-BF4D-C1379C425CB3@microsoft.com...

>I was once told to install the printer river on both machine (does the

> printer have Vista driver) My set up is the other way around - no

> problems)

> --

> Regards

> Bob J

>

>

> "Romane" wrote:

>

>> (beating head on desk) Update.

>>

>> And just now, about five hours after last having the problem, I tried

>> (yet

>> one more time) to print from Notepad, and it went through *almost

>> instantly*. Uh? Same from Windows Mail. Uh? Anyone have an explanation?

>>

>> R.

>>

>> "Romane" <romane@miscellanie.com> wrote in message

>> news:eb9%230tIwHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Well, my Vista box seems to be improved. In general, the performance is

>> > flying. The eye-candy works well, too. Installing the latest drivers

>> > from

>> > Intel seem to have solved most of the issues, bar one which I discuss

>> > somewhat further below. The beta version of the latest drivers from

>> > nVidia

>> > look like they have fixed the issues that was having with earlier

>> > versions. The network works without a hitch - I have this Vista box, an

>> > XP

>> > Pro box, and a Linux box, and they are all quite happy to talk to each

>> > other. The few software issues am still having may mostly need to be

>> > addressed by the software developers, not Microsoft, and am following

>> > up

>> > that area.

>> >

>> > Two issues looking for assistance on, however. So you have some idea

>> > what

>> > you are looking at, system is Ultimate, nVidia 8800gts with 320Mb, 2Gb

>> > memory, 2 x 320Gb hard drives (SATA), Dual Core 2 6600 @2.40GHz, Intel

>> > D975XBX2 motherboard., all the latest hardware drivers from Intel and

>> > nVidia.

>> >

>> > First one seems rather minor - what setting have I tripped to lose my

>> > access to information on the Windows Experience Index. Access via

>> > 'Control

>> > Panel / System and Maintenance / System / View amount of Ram and

>> > Processor

>> > Speed', and I get something similar to where my index used to be

>> > detailed,

>> > but missing the various component details, and no link to re-check the

>> > index. 'System and Maintenance / System / Check your Windows Experience

>> > Index base score' and I get an almost blank screen that says I can

>> > check

>> > it, and when the last rating was done, but no links or other means of

>> > checking.

>> >

>> > The other is more serious. The XP box also serves as my print server.

>> > Vista seems to have a problem with this, but in an inconsistent manner.

>> > I

>> > can print from most of my applications in Vista with only about a

>> > minute's

>> > delay (still far too long, but if I must, I will live with it, albeit

>> > impatiently), but what I will refer to as Windows native programs

>> > (Notepad, WordPad etc) hang completely without the expected recovery I

>> > have come to expect from Vista. After between 5 to 10 minutes, I get

>> > impatient and kill the application off. It is only when I try to print

>> > that the problem occurs - all applications seem to behave otherwise

>> > pretty

>> > well normally. I suspect that it has something to do with the way the

>> > Vista and XP boxes talk to each other about the process, but I have no

>> > other problems in Network communications. I have tried uninstalling and

>> > reinstalling the printers, to no avail. Reboots, also no joy. From the

>> > XP

>> > box, they both work perfectly Can anyone give me some pointers (in

>> > layman's terms, please) that may help me to fix this issue?

>> >

>> > R.

>>

>>

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