Where is the DRM?

Posted July 6, 200717 yr

So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

far!

Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

what?

After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

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July 6, 200717 yr

So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

far!

Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

what?

After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

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July 6, 200717 yr

You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

that protection mechanism is not used.

wrote in message

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> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

> far!

>

> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>

> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

> what?

>

> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>

> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>

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July 6, 200717 yr

You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

that protection mechanism is not used.

wrote in message

news:1183709419.371767.310810@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

> far!

>

> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>

> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

> what?

>

> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>

> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>

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July 6, 200717 yr

On 6 Jul., 10:17, "Spirit" <unkn...@lost.info> wrote:

> You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

>

> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/win...

>

> When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

>

> Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

> the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

> experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

> that protection mechanism is not used.

>

And on XP, it was different?! I can't remember that WMP on XP played

protected media files without license.

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July 6, 200717 yr

On 6 Jul., 10:17, "Spirit" <unkn...@lost.info> wrote:

> You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

>

> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/win...

>

> When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

>

> Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

> the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

> experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

> that protection mechanism is not used.

>

And on XP, it was different?! I can't remember that WMP on XP played

protected media files without license.

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July 6, 200717 yr

PSiegmann@mail.nu wrote:

> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

> far!

>

> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>

> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

> what?

>

> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>

> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>

So you didn't have to activate over the internet? You didn't download

updates from Windows updates for Vista? Those all include various types

of DRM.

You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

without your knowledge:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

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PSiegmann@mail.nu wrote:

> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

> far!

>

> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>

> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

> what?

>

> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>

> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>

So you didn't have to activate over the internet? You didn't download

updates from Windows updates for Vista? Those all include various types

of DRM.

You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

without your knowledge:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

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Spirit wrote:

> You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

>

> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

>

> When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

>

> Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

> the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

> experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

> that protection mechanism is not used.

>

If you have installed Vista, you are already using content that has DRM

restrictions.

>

> wrote in message

> news:1183709419.371767.310810@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

>> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

>> far!

>>

>> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

>> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

>> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>>

>> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

>> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

>> what?

>>

>> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

>> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>>

>> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>>

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Spirit wrote:

> You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

>

> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

>

> When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

>

> Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by

> the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista

> experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then

> that protection mechanism is not used.

>

If you have installed Vista, you are already using content that has DRM

restrictions.

>

> wrote in message

> news:1183709419.371767.310810@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all

>> the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so

>> far!

>>

>> Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx

>> movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online

>> radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

>>

>> Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am

>> sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or

>> what?

>>

>> After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this

>> is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

>>

>> No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

>>

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The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

> without your knowledge:

>

> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>

Wow!

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The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

> without your knowledge:

>

> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>

Wow!

Alias

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Alias wrote:

> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

>>

>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>> without your knowledge:

>>

>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>

>

> Wow!

>

> Alias

Yeah, right!

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Alias wrote:

> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

>>

>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>> without your knowledge:

>>

>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>

>

> Wow!

>

> Alias

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Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in

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> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

>>

>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>> without your knowledge:

>>

>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-F

>> eatures-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>

>

> Wow!

>

> Alias

So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

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Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in

news:e88fcc#vHHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>

>>

>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>> without your knowledge:

>>

>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-F

>> eatures-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>

>

> Wow!

>

> Alias

So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

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DanS wrote:

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in

> news:e88fcc#vHHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

>

>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>

>>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>>> without your knowledge:

>>>

>>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-F

>>> eatures-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>>

>> Wow!

>>

>> Alias

>

> So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

LOL! :)

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DanS wrote:

> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in

> news:e88fcc#vHHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

>

>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>>

>>> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

>>> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

>>> without your knowledge:

>>>

>>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-F

>>> eatures-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

>>>

>> Wow!

>>

>> Alias

>

> So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

LOL! :)

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On Jul 6, 5:06 pm, The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

<n...@di.boy> wrote:

> So you didn't have to activate over the internet? You didn't download

> updates from Windows updates for Vista? Those all include various types

> of DRM.

Activation is not new to Vista. Yeah, I downloaded all the updates

from Windows Update...still, nothing happened, in regard to multimedia

files at least.

>

> You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting

> information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or

> without your knowledge:

>

> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-...

>

> --

Ehm. From the website:

"Activation, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP), Device

Manager, Driver Protection, Dynamic Update, Event Viewer, File

Association Web Service, Games Folder, Error Reporting for Handwriting

Recognition, Input Method Editor (IME), Installation Improvement

Program, Internet Printing, Internet Protocol version 6 Network

Address Translation Traversal, Network Awareness (somewhat), Parental

Controls, Peer Name Resolution Service, Plug and Play, Plug and Play

Extensions, Program Compatibility Assistant, Program Properties-

Compatibility Tab, Program Compatibility Wizard, Properties,

Registration, Rights Management Services (RMS) Client, Update Root

Certificates, Windows Control Panel, Windows Help, Windows Mail (only

with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) and Windows Problem

Reporting are the main features and services in Windows Vista that

collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. "

Activation - was already in XP

Customer Experience - wasn't that thing in office for years? It can be

deactivated.

Device Manager - Big news, I think since windows 2000 it was able to

search for drivers on Windows Update on the internet,if you wanted to.

Driver Protection - Does it really contact MS? AFAIK it checks just if

the driver is "valid" (on 64 bit systems at least)

Dynamic Update - Can't find it (VHP)

Event Viewer - Yes, it does contact MS, but as far as I know, only if

you want it (it redirects you to a web page where an event is

described more in depth) .. this behavior also was already in XP.

File Assiocation Web Service - well, DUH! This thing was already in

XP, it contacts a website, if you want to know what a certain unknown

file ending stands for (at users will).

Problem Reporting - ... now, this is nearly stupid. If you report a

problem, who should it contact?

Windows Mail (only with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) -

DUH. Windows mail contacts MSN if you use MSN? Oh my GOD!

Windows Help - if you start it, it already gives you an option to

contact MS, and search the MS website for help (was already in XP).

Program Compatibility Assistant - Well ... this thing:http://

windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/82c0440d-553e-47e9-

b4bd-6c2d10df4de71033.mspx#EQ ? It gives you the option to contact MS,

and ask for a solution for a problem with the program.

Seriously, this is lame. Half of the list was already on XP, and the

rest is somewhat.. DUH.

I am still searching for the allmighty big evil I am hearing about.

Seriously. All that I have seen and now experienced with Vista on this

computer so far, was pretty non-spectacular.