Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> Can't reply to content intelligently so you resort to insults. How

>>> unusual for you, Bill.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> You have no "content", you lying linux lovin POS loser.

>> Get lost.

>> Frank

>

>

> We already know that you think being inhumane is the right thing to do.

> You prove it with almost every one of your posts.

>

> Got any more insults you would like Google to archive for your grand

> kids to read?

>

> Alias

 

Tell us all about your "karma", you lying piece of sh*t loser! Or would

you rather try googling your lying POS arse for all of the proof that

you are just a liar, huh?

Frank

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> There is no support from the major software authors, and people changing

> to Ubuntu will essentially have to give up being able to run almost all

> of their Windows based software.

>

> There is little point changing to an OS which will not run programs that

> the user has gotten used to running and likes.

>

> I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does

> Outlook or anything similar run in Linux?

>

> NO..

 

Outlook and games are the only reasons I still have XP.

>

> Is there anything like Outlooks Business Contact Manager that will run

> in Linux?

>

> NO

 

Most people don't use that.

> Will MapPoint run in Linux?

>

> NO

 

Most people don't use that.

> Will Encarta or similar run in Linux?

>

> NO

 

There are many online encyclopedias. For example, Wikipedia.

> Will American Greetings Create-a-card run in Linux?

>

> NO

 

Gosh, what a loss! NOT.

>

> I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

> Linux?

>

> NO

 

No, Windows beats Linux for games hands down, I'll give you that.

>

> Is Ubuntu a good replacement for the kind of general use above?

>

> NO

 

It will meet most users' needs.

> Is there anything wrong with Linux in general?

>

> NO

 

Agreed.

> Would the average user be technical enough to easily run Linux?

>

> NO

 

False. It's easier to install than XP by far.

> Should users be forced to become technical in order to get anything from

> their computers?

>

> NO

 

And it isn't necessary.

>

> Does Windows suit all needs?

>

> NO

 

Agreed.

>

> Does Linux suit all needs?

>

> NO

 

Agreed.

>

> Does MacOS suit all needs?

>

> NO

 

Agreed.

>

> Is the original concept of Linux becoming over burdoned in the attempt

> to make it a competitor for Windows?

>

> YES

 

NO. Ubuntu and PcLinuxOS are the most user friendly distros to come out

and they just came out. Give the people time to learn and when they do,

they will dump Windows except for gaming, being as it's a Toy OS and all.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> There is no support from the major software authors, and people

>> changing to Ubuntu will essentially have to give up being able to run

>> almost all of their Windows based software.

>>

>> There is little point changing to an OS which will not run programs

>> that the user has gotten used to running and likes.

>>

>> I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does

>> Outlook or anything similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO..

>

>

> Outlook and games are the only reasons I still have XP.

>

>>

>> Is there anything like Outlooks Business Contact Manager that will run

>> in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Most people don't use that.

>

>> Will MapPoint run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Most people don't use that.

>

>> Will Encarta or similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> There are many online encyclopedias. For example, Wikipedia.

>

>> Will American Greetings Create-a-card run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Gosh, what a loss! NOT.

>

>>

>> I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

>> Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> No, Windows beats Linux for games hands down, I'll give you that.

>

>>

>> Is Ubuntu a good replacement for the kind of general use above?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> It will meet most users' needs.

>

>> Is there anything wrong with Linux in general?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Agreed.

>

>> Would the average user be technical enough to easily run Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> False. It's easier to install than XP by far.

>

>> Should users be forced to become technical in order to get anything

>> from their computers?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> And it isn't necessary.

>

>>

>> Does Windows suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does Linux suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does MacOS suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Is the original concept of Linux becoming over burdoned in the attempt

>> to make it a competitor for Windows?

>>

>> YES

>

>

> NO. Ubuntu and PcLinuxOS are the most user friendly distros to come out

> and they just came out. Give the people time to learn and when they do,

> they will dump Windows except for gaming, being as it's a Toy OS and all.

>

> Alias

>

You are one lying delusional POS.

Get a life...if you can afford one...LOL!

Frank

It's all very well stating that not all users run this program or that

program, BUT...

 

If one wants to run all of the above or similar to above, Windows would have

to be the first choice.

 

If tinkering and or programming, with no use for the stuff above, then Linux

would be first choice.

 

I haven't yet come across a compelling reason to have a Mac other than the

fact that the design is really classy, and they are nice products to own.

 

So what is the problem? There isn't one as long as people are left to make

their own choices, and if the choices are essentially programs that will not

run on a specific OS, then one doesn't run the OS.

 

Alternatives are only good if one can do exactly the same. They are not

alternatives if they can't.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

 

 

 

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fiplon$j0j$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> There is no support from the major software authors, and people changing

>> to Ubuntu will essentially have to give up being able to run almost all

>> of their Windows based software.

>>

>> There is little point changing to an OS which will not run programs that

>> the user has gotten used to running and likes.

>>

>> I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does Outlook

>> or anything similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO..

>

> Outlook and games are the only reasons I still have XP.

>

>>

>> Is there anything like Outlooks Business Contact Manager that will run in

>> Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Most people don't use that.

>

>> Will MapPoint run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Most people don't use that.

>

>> Will Encarta or similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> There are many online encyclopedias. For example, Wikipedia.

>

>> Will American Greetings Create-a-card run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Gosh, what a loss! NOT.

>

>>

>> I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

>> Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> No, Windows beats Linux for games hands down, I'll give you that.

>

>>

>> Is Ubuntu a good replacement for the kind of general use above?

>>

>> NO

>

> It will meet most users' needs.

>

>> Is there anything wrong with Linux in general?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>> Would the average user be technical enough to easily run Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> False. It's easier to install than XP by far.

>

>> Should users be forced to become technical in order to get anything from

>> their computers?

>>

>> NO

>

> And it isn't necessary.

>

>>

>> Does Windows suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does Linux suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does MacOS suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Is the original concept of Linux becoming over burdoned in the attempt to

>> make it a competitor for Windows?

>>

>> YES

>

> NO. Ubuntu and PcLinuxOS are the most user friendly distros to come out

> and they just came out. Give the people time to learn and when they do,

> they will dump Windows except for gaming, being as it's a Toy OS and all.

>

> Alias

>

Evolution doesn't cut it and Scalix is enterprise software. All of the

others in my list would be lost too. Ubuntu is no alternative for me or many

others. I can do all that I want or need within one OS. I have a machine set

up with Ubuntu 7.10 and I have absolutely no use for it. My Vista/XP machine

does it all.

 

I can assure you that I am not about to apologies for that.. :-)

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

 

 

 

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

news:fipkeh$ari$1@reader1.panix.com...

> In article <#6rvku3MIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>

>>I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does Outlook

>>or

>>anything similar run in Linux?

>>

>>NO..

>>

>

> Have you looked at Evolution? And there's always Scalix:

>

> http://www.scalix.com/

>

>>I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

>>Linux?

>

> Linux games are weak. I do remember Doom and Quake though. No

> one ever ran Quake servers on windows... Wonder why...

>

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fipbtr$jqp$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> And Ubuntu problems are just about to start.. :-)

>>

>

> And these imaginary problems that you've made up are? Let's see, do you

> mean these?:

>

> 1. No activation required.

 

Because NOBODY wants to use it

>

> 2. No becoming genuine required.

 

Because Ubuntu is a Pile. Who really cares

>

> 3. No chance of acquiring viruses or malware.

 

Because NOBODY uses it. The virus writers would have nobody to bother!!!

>

> 4. No chance of becoming part of a botnet like millions of Windows boxes

> are.

 

Again, because you can't do anything of importance with Ubuntu other than

checking e-mail and having idiots post Ubuntu messages on the vista.general

site.

>

> 5. No chance of having to pay for your operating system.

 

Because why should you pay for an OS that can't do anything?

>

> 6. No chance of having to pay for programs unless you just have to use a

> Windows based program.

 

Again, because the software is OpenSource which is about 10 years behind the

times. You can't even give it away.

>

> 7. You'll be deprived of your daily habit of updating anti virus and anti

> malware programs.

 

If your system updates the antivirus software automatically, you won't even

have to worry about it

>

> There must be more that you can add, can't you Mike?

 

>

> Alias

You Forgot one question

 

You forgot one question:

 

Is Alias a Pain In The Ass?

 

YES. A BILLION TIMES YES.

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

news:%236rvku3MIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> There is no support from the major software authors, and people changing

> to Ubuntu will essentially have to give up being able to run almost all of

> their Windows based software.

>

> There is little point changing to an OS which will not run programs that

> the user has gotten used to running and likes.

>

> I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does Outlook

> or anything similar run in Linux?

>

> NO..

>

> Is there anything like Outlooks Business Contact Manager that will run in

> Linux?

>

> NO

>

> Will MapPoint run in Linux?

>

> NO

>

> Will Encarta or similar run in Linux?

>

> NO

>

> Will American Greetings Create-a-card run in Linux?

>

> NO

>

> I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

> Linux?

>

> NO

>

> Is Ubuntu a good replacement for the kind of general use above?

>

> NO

>

> Is there anything wrong with Linux in general?

>

> NO

>

> Would the average user be technical enough to easily run Linux?

>

> NO

>

> Should users be forced to become technical in order to get anything from

> their computers?

>

> NO

>

> Does Windows suit all needs?

>

> NO

>

> Does Linux suit all needs?

>

> NO

>

> Does MacOS suit all needs?

>

> NO

>

> Is the original concept of Linux becoming over burdoned in the attempt to

> make it a competitor for Windows?

>

> YES

>

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

>

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fipbtr$jqp$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> And Ubuntu problems are just about to start.. :-)

>>

>

> And these imaginary problems that you've made up are? Let's see, do you

> mean these?:

>

> 1. No activation required.

>

> 2. No becoming genuine required.

>

> 3. No chance of acquiring viruses or malware.

 

Lies

> 4. No chance of becoming part of a botnet like millions of Windows boxes

> are.

 

More lies

> 5. No chance of having to pay for your operating system.

>

> 6. No chance of having to pay for programs unless you just have to use a

> Windows based program.

 

Do you mean no chance of buying the programs you want/need as they won't

run?

 

> 7. You'll be deprived of your daily habit of updating anti virus and anti

> malware programs.

 

To be replaced by manually checking for malware even though you will claim

there is none.

See http://lwn.net/Articles/222153/ and then start thinking of more excuses.

> There must be more that you can add, can't you Mike?

 

Why not make some more up yourself?

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fiplon$j0j$1@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> There is no support from the major software authors, and people changing

>> to Ubuntu will essentially have to give up being able to run almost all

>> of their Windows based software.

>>

>> There is little point changing to an OS which will not run programs that

>> the user has gotten used to running and likes.

>>

>> I run Office 2007, and Outlook is a major app in that suite. Does Outlook

>> or anything similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO..

>

> Outlook and games are the only reasons I still have XP.

 

That's right. You can't really do anything productive on a computer except

games and annoying the people here in the vista.general group.

>

>>

>> Is there anything like Outlooks Business Contact Manager that will run in

>> Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Most people don't use that.

 

Most people use Outlook.

>

>> Will MapPoint run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Most people don't use that.

 

Quite a few people do. Including me. Therefore Linux/Ubuntu is totally

useless

>

>> Will Encarta or similar run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> There are many online encyclopedias. For example, Wikipedia.

 

Whopp-tee-do.

>

>> Will American Greetings Create-a-card run in Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> Gosh, what a loss! NOT.

 

Gosh, NOT having Ubuntu/Linux. What a Loss -- NOT !

>

>>

>> I play CFS 3, Halo and Age of Empires III occasionally. Do they run in

>> Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> No, Windows beats Linux for games hands down, I'll give you that.

 

Windows beats Linux hands down all the time (with the exception of business

servers) [We are speaking user desktops here]

>

>>

>> Is Ubuntu a good replacement for the kind of general use above?

>>

>> NO

>

> It will meet most users' needs.

 

Wrong - It meets a small number of user needs. About 1/8 of 1/2 of 1

percent of a small sampling of the population. Just FYI

 

>

>> Is there anything wrong with Linux in general?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

 

As long as only geeks and people who want to play use it.

>

>> Would the average user be technical enough to easily run Linux?

>>

>> NO

>

> False. It's easier to install than XP by far.

 

You have a comprehension problem. He said is the average user technical

enough to RUN Linux. NOT install Linux.

 

Oops...

>

>> Should users be forced to become technical in order to get anything from

>> their computers?

>>

>> NO

>

> And it isn't necessary.

>

>>

>> Does Windows suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does Linux suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Does MacOS suit all needs?

>>

>> NO

>

> Agreed.

>

>>

>> Is the original concept of Linux becoming over burdoned in the attempt to

>> make it a competitor for Windows?

>>

>> YES

>

> NO. Ubuntu and PcLinuxOS are the most user friendly distros to come out

> and they just came out. Give the people time to learn and when they do,

> they will dump Windows except for gaming, being as it's a Toy OS and all.

>

 

And Alias is the Marketing Department of Ubuntu assigned to annoy people

here in vista.general land.

 

> Alias

>

In article <OP7$Vg4MIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>Evolution doesn't cut it and Scalix is enterprise software. All of the

 

Hmmm well, Evolution certainly isn't as slick as Outlook, but

as far as "enterprise" you know you can't take advantage of 80% of Outlook's

features without an Exchange server. Doesn't that make Outlook "enterprise"

software too? How many home users run their own Exchange server?

 

Scalix is an Exchange alternative, and the Scalix clients are

Outlook alternatives. You can download and run their fat client for free

but without the supporting infrastructure it's, well, like running Outlook

without an Exchange server.

>. Ubuntu is no alternative for me or many

 

I use a Linux desktop (not ubuntu though I don't climb aboard

every flash-in-the-pan new Linux distribution that rolls by :-) for

most things, keep a Windows box for gaming, and push AIX and Solaris to

clients needing high quality and efficient data processing or {I,A}SP

environments. You can't beat Windows for small-campus back office stuff,

and because of the quality of applications available (NOT the OS itself)

it's ideal for the computer-as-toaster^H^H^H^business platform crowd.

But for a connoisseur a Unix based system is like the difference between

frozen hamburger and filet mignon. See, you can always grind up your filet

and freeze it, but you'll never turn that ground beef back into a steak.

 

Tastes great, less crashing! lol.

In article <e3Mt1b5MIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

Bill Yanaire <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>Most people use Outlook.

>

 

/grin I still use elm. When people send me that html stuff I

filter out the tags and read it as text...

 

And check out what I read news with.

 

I'm such a fossil...

Yes, a nice IBM RS6000 workgroup server type machine blows the average PC

out of the water, but it costs $$$$$$, support costs are $$$$$$, and it

still will not run Outlook or my games.

 

This is why PCs exist.. :-)

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

 

 

 

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message

news:fiq2h6$o26$1@reader1.panix.com...

> In article <OP7$Vg4MIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

> Mike Hall - MVP <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>Evolution doesn't cut it and Scalix is enterprise software. All of the

>

> Hmmm well, Evolution certainly isn't as slick as Outlook, but

> as far as "enterprise" you know you can't take advantage of 80% of

> Outlook's

> features without an Exchange server. Doesn't that make Outlook

> "enterprise"

> software too? How many home users run their own Exchange server?

>

> Scalix is an Exchange alternative, and the Scalix clients are

> Outlook alternatives. You can download and run their fat client for free

> but without the supporting infrastructure it's, well, like running Outlook

> without an Exchange server.

>

>>. Ubuntu is no alternative for me or many

>

> I use a Linux desktop (not ubuntu though I don't climb aboard

> every flash-in-the-pan new Linux distribution that rolls by :-) for

> most things, keep a Windows box for gaming, and push AIX and Solaris to

> clients needing high quality and efficient data processing or {I,A}SP

> environments. You can't beat Windows for small-campus back office stuff,

> and because of the quality of applications available (NOT the OS itself)

> it's ideal for the computer-as-toaster^H^H^H^business platform crowd.

> But for a connoisseur a Unix based system is like the difference between

> frozen hamburger and filet mignon. See, you can always grind up your

> filet

> and freeze it, but you'll never turn that ground beef back into a steak.

>

> Tastes great, less crashing! lol.

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> It's all very well stating that not all users run this program or that

> program, BUT...

>

> If one wants to run all of the above or similar to above, Windows would

> have to be the first choice.

>

> If tinkering and or programming, with no use for the stuff above, then

> Linux would be first choice.

>

> I haven't yet come across a compelling reason to have a Mac other than

> the fact that the design is really classy, and they are nice products to

> own.

>

> So what is the problem? There isn't one as long as people are left to

> make their own choices, and if the choices are essentially programs that

> will not run on a specific OS, then one doesn't run the OS.

>

> Alternatives are only good if one can do exactly the same. They are not

> alternatives if they can't.

>

 

For me, XP and Ubuntu suit all my needs.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> It's all very well stating that not all users run this program or that

>> program, BUT...

>>

>> If one wants to run all of the above or similar to above, Windows

>> would have to be the first choice.

>>

>> If tinkering and or programming, with no use for the stuff above, then

>> Linux would be first choice.

>>

>> I haven't yet come across a compelling reason to have a Mac other than

>> the fact that the design is really classy, and they are nice products

>> to own.

>>

>> So what is the problem? There isn't one as long as people are left to

>> make their own choices, and if the choices are essentially programs

>> that will not run on a specific OS, then one doesn't run the OS.

>>

>> Alternatives are only good if one can do exactly the same. They are

>> not alternatives if they can't.

>>

>

> For me, XP and Ubuntu suit all my needs.

>

> Alias

 

Fine...and we all know that. So what is your problem with Vista? Why do

you continue to bash it although you don't have it installed and don't

even use it?

And please spare us the "noble" bs...we've heard that fukkin lie too

many times before.

Frank

I have to agree with the previous responses. Preparation is the key. If you

still have a copy of the original XP laying around, load it up and install

the same hardware/software you had with Windows 3.1 (and don't load any new

drivers, etc.) Let's see if you have a different experience. I'm sure it was

a similar experience.

 

I'm sure the Leopard users would have similar issues, if they had enough

knowledge to even try to keep any software/harware from their old systems.

 

It's the nature of advancing the technology. I thank God there are problems.

I am 2nd/3rd-level tech support and I feed a family with money from

technology advancement. THANK YOU MICROSOFT! And you too, 3rd party vendors.

 

"James Matthews" wrote:

> hi,

>

> I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!

> Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess

> who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

>

> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we can

> resolve them!

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks

> James

> --

>

> http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches

> http://www.goldwatches.com/

> http://www.jewelerslounge.com/

>

Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we

>> can resolve them!

>

> You talking about 64-bit Vi$ta?

>

 

32-bit Vi$ta? Forget it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

 

--

@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.

/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!

/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.9

^ ^ 10:33:01 up 3 days 17:28 3 users load average: 0.12 0.11 0.09

? ? (CSSA):

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Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>

>>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we

>>> can resolve them!

>>

>>

>> You talking about 64-bit Vi$ta?

>>

>

> 32-bit Vi$ta? Forget it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

>

 

Hey Go-fung-yu..Vista 32 willa kicka your stupid arse all over the flace.

Flucka yu!

Flank

"all users always want."

Obviously a FALSE statement.

How can "all" users want one thing when many want something else?

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OTw9NK8MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...> 32-bit Vi$ta? Forget

it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

>

> --

> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.

> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!

> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.9

> ^ ^ 10:33:01 up 3 days 17:28 3 users load average: 0.12 0.11

> 0.09

> ? ? (CSSA):

> http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> It's all very well stating that not all users run this program or

>>> that program, BUT...

>>>

>>> If one wants to run all of the above or similar to above, Windows

>>> would have to be the first choice.

>>>

>>> If tinkering and or programming, with no use for the stuff above,

>>> then Linux would be first choice.

>>>

>>> I haven't yet come across a compelling reason to have a Mac other

>>> than the fact that the design is really classy, and they are nice

>>> products to own.

>>>

>>> So what is the problem? There isn't one as long as people are left to

>>> make their own choices, and if the choices are essentially programs

>>> that will not run on a specific OS, then one doesn't run the OS.

>>>

>>> Alternatives are only good if one can do exactly the same. They are

>>> not alternatives if they can't.

>>>

>>

>> For me, XP and Ubuntu suit all my needs.

>>

>> Alias

>

> Fine...and we all know that. So what is your problem with Vista? Why do

> you continue to bash it although you don't have it installed and don't

> even use it?

 

I have installed it so I know it's a POS, of course!

> And please spare us the "noble" bs...we've heard that fukkin lie too

> many times before.

> Frank

 

Suggestion alternatives to the Vista Virus is a noble endeavor. Live

with it.

 

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>>

>>>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how

>>>> we can resolve them!

>>>

>>>

>>> You talking about 64-bit Vi$ta?

>>>

>>

>> 32-bit Vi$ta? Forget it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

>>

>

> Hey Go-fung-yu..Vista 32 willa kicka your stupid arse all over the flace.

> Flucka yu!

> Flank

 

Now Frank thinks that his racism is funny. How low can he go?

 

Alias

Lets look at the big issues with windows xp!

 

1. All code that is run can be run in Kernel mode (Ring 0) that is like

leaving your front door open!

 

In vista!

 

You run as a limited user! Solved!!!

 

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"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we

>>> can resolve them!

>>

>> You talking about 64-bit Vi$ta?

>>

>

> 32-bit Vi$ta? Forget it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

>

> --

> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.

> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!

> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.9

> ^ ^ 10:33:01 up 3 days 17:28 3 users load average: 0.12 0.11 0.09

> ? ? (CSSA):

> http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/

Correct! But do we have to remain in the dark ages because people won't

advance?

 

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"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Any operating system can be a problem if the neccessary reseach is not

> done before deploying. This applies to Windows, Linux, Unix and Mac OS X.

> Every new version of an OS certain to be disruptive in some way, either an

> application or device will not work.

> --

> Andre

> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

> "James Matthews" <jamesmatt18@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:90877E5C-BD81-47DA-A8C8-498E9EB19431@microsoft.com...

>> hi,

>>

>> I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!

>> Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess

>> who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

>>

>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we can

>> resolve them!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Thanks

>> James

>> --

>>

>> http://search.goldwatches.com/?Search=Movado+Watches

>> http://www.goldwatches.com/

>> http://www.jewelerslounge.com/

>

>

>

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>>> It's all very well stating that not all users run this program or

>>>> that program, BUT...

>>>>

>>>> If one wants to run all of the above or similar to above, Windows

>>>> would have to be the first choice.

>>>>

>>>> If tinkering and or programming, with no use for the stuff above,

>>>> then Linux would be first choice.

>>>>

>>>> I haven't yet come across a compelling reason to have a Mac other

>>>> than the fact that the design is really classy, and they are nice

>>>> products to own.

>>>>

>>>> So what is the problem? There isn't one as long as people are left

>>>> to make their own choices, and if the choices are essentially

>>>> programs that will not run on a specific OS, then one doesn't run

>>>> the OS.

>>>>

>>>> Alternatives are only good if one can do exactly the same. They are

>>>> not alternatives if they can't.

>>>>

>>>

>>> For me, XP and Ubuntu suit all my needs.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Fine...and we all know that. So what is your problem with Vista? Why

>> do you continue to bash it although you don't have it installed and

>> don't even use it?

>

>

> I have installed it so I know it's a POS, of course!

>

>> And please spare us the "noble" bs...we've heard that fukkin lie too

>> many times before.

>> Frank

>

>

> Suggestion alternatives to the Vista Virus is a noble endeavor. Live

> with it.

>

> Alias

 

You obviously have a real mental illness that you are only able to

indulge in, in these ng's.

The good news is that this entire ng is on to your sickness and I and

others will continue to make all aware of you and your mental problems.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>>

>>> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:

>>>

>>>>> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how

>>>>> we can resolve them!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You talking about 64-bit Vi$ta?

>>>>

>>>

>>> 32-bit Vi$ta? Forget it... 32-bit XP is what all users always want.

>>>

>>

>> Hey Go-fung-yu..Vista 32 willa kicka your stupid arse all over the flace.

>> Flucka yu!

>> Flank

>

>

> Now Frank thinks that his racism is funny. How low can he go?

>

> Alias

 

Tells us all about your good "karma" you fukkin racist atheist.

Well,...let's here your rationalized answer you stupid ignorant fool.

Frank

Let's not ever think that it should have been Microsoft's responsibility to

ensure that hardware and/or programmes that worked just fine under Windows XP

would not work under their 'new' Vista operating system.

 

I have tried for 6 months to find resolves to issues with no success and

have finally decided to contact my 'new' computer supplier and find out what

is involved to get rid of Vista and run my 'new' computer with XP.

 

The last straw was losing my one and only user id's ability to have

Administator privileges required when I download one of Vista's updates.

 

"James Matthews" wrote:

> hi,

>

> I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!

> Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess

> who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

>

> Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we can

> resolve them!

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks

> James

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