Nope, OEM licenses of Windows are hard coded to the machine they are

distributed with. You can purchase a retail license from many online stores.

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"René" <rene.ruppert@googlemail.com> wrote in message

news:3ed043db-c5e5-487e-a56f-82fe0d273a7d@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Hi,

 

I have received a defective (= physically damaged) Toshiba Notebook as

a gift from a relative. The good news is: there's Vista Home Premium

coming with it! The bad news: there's only a recovery DVD and no

original MS Vista DVD with it.

 

So now I have:

- The recovery DVD

- The original silver sticker with the product key on the bottom of

the notebook.

 

What I would like to do is to install Vista on another PC. Of course I

cannot us ethe recovery DVD since the other machine is not a Toshiba

notebook. Is there a way to extract the Vista from the recovery DVD?

Or can I just use another Vista DVD for installing?

 

Thanks.

 

René

Hi,

 

I have received a defective (= physically damaged) Toshiba Notebook as

a gift from a relative. The good news is: there's Vista Home Premium

coming with it! The bad news: there's only a recovery DVD and no

original MS Vista DVD with it.

 

So now I have:

- The recovery DVD

- The original silver sticker with the product key on the bottom of

the notebook.

 

What I would like to do is to install Vista on another PC. Of course I

cannot us ethe recovery DVD since the other machine is not a Toshiba

notebook. Is there a way to extract the Vista from the recovery DVD?

Or can I just use another Vista DVD for installing?

 

Thanks.

 

René

René wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have received a defective (= physically damaged) Toshiba Notebook as

> a gift from a relative. The good news is: there's Vista Home Premium

> coming with it! The bad news: there's only a recovery DVD and no

> original MS Vista DVD with it.

>

> So now I have:

> - The recovery DVD

> - The original silver sticker with the product key on the bottom of

> the notebook.

>

> What I would like to do is to install Vista on another PC. Of course I

> cannot us ethe recovery DVD since the other machine is not a Toshiba

> notebook. Is there a way to extract the Vista from the recovery DVD?

> Or can I just use another Vista DVD for installing?

>

> Thanks.

>

> René

 

Sorry, but technically it won't work.

 

Alias

> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

 

What will not work? The extraction?

What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

 

René

The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

to a different computer....sorry!

 

--

Carey Frisch

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

---------------------------------------------------------------

 

"René" <rene.ruppert@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:3ed043db-c5e5-487e-a56f-82fe0d273a7d@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Hi,

 

I have received a defective (= physically damaged) Toshiba Notebook as

a gift from a relative. The good news is: there's Vista Home Premium

coming with it! The bad news: there's only a recovery DVD and no

original MS Vista DVD with it.

 

So now I have:

- The recovery DVD

- The original silver sticker with the product key on the bottom of

the notebook.

 

What I would like to do is to install Vista on another PC. Of course I

cannot us ethe recovery DVD since the other machine is not a Toshiba

notebook. Is there a way to extract the Vista from the recovery DVD?

Or can I just use another Vista DVD for installing?

 

Thanks.

 

René

> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

> to a different computer....sorry!

 

So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

but it does not comply with the EULA?

 

Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

surely do not want to buy a new OS.

 

René

The OEM software is licensed with the computer system on which it was

originally installed and is tied to that original machine. OEM licenses are

single-use licenses that cannot be installed on more than one computer system

even if the original machine is no longer in use.

 

--

Carey Frisch

Microsoft MVP

Windows - Shell/User

Microsoft Community Newsgroups

http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/

 

 

 

"René" wrote:

>

> > Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>

> What will not work? The extraction?

> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>

> René

>

Sorry, but if the Toshiba notebook has died due to

physical damage, then the Vista OEM software

license has also perished. You have two choices:

 

1) Send the laptop to Toshiba for repairs.

2) Send the damaged laptop to a recycling center.

 

--

Carey Frisch

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

---------------------------------------------------------------

 

"René" <rene.ruppert@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:f9f290be-17e9-45a3-9be0-8c5ffe4eb7b1@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

> to a different computer....sorry!

 

So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

but it does not comply with the EULA?

 

Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

surely do not want to buy a new OS.

 

René

René wrote:

>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>

> What will not work? The extraction?

> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>

> René

 

Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

also tied to the laptop.

 

You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games. Check

it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many times as

you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as you want. You

can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to get it to you.

 

Alias

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

> René wrote:

>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>

>> What will not work? The extraction?

>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>

>> René

>

> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work only

> on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is also tied

> to the laptop.

>

> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games. Check it

> out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many times as you

> like. It can also be installed on as many computers as you want. You can

> order the CD and they will even pay the postage to get it to you.

>

> Alias

 

Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really that

great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening. Small

groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with the OS,

unistall it and go back to Windows!

 

Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it don't

like it. The figures tell the truth.

All of the responses you are getting are legally/morally correct. That being

said, if you know someone with an OEM Home Premium DVD, your key should

work. But then you would probably have to call the Activation Center and lie

to them to get it activated.

 

There, I said it.

 

"René" <rene.ruppert@googlemail.com> wrote in message

news:f9f290be-17e9-45a3-9be0-8c5ffe4eb7b1@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

> to a different computer....sorry!

 

So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

but it does not comply with the EULA?

 

Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

surely do not want to buy a new OS.

 

René

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>> René wrote:

>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>

>>> René

>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work only

>> on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is also tied

>> to the laptop.

>>

>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games. Check it

>> out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many times as you

>> like. It can also be installed on as many computers as you want. You can

>> order the CD and they will even pay the postage to get it to you.

>>

>> Alias

>

> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really that

> great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

> installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening. Small

> groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with the OS,

> unistall it and go back to Windows!

>

> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

> percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it don't

> like it. The figures tell the truth.

>

>

>

 

The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>> René wrote:

>>>

>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>

>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>

>>>> René

>>>

>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>

>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>> get it to you.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would

>> be installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT

>> happening. Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't

>> do much with the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>

>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a

>> small percentage of users out there. That means that most people who

>> try it don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>

>>

>>

>

> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

> Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>

> Alias

 

OMG...that's maybe the dumbest example (excuse?) I've ever heard of a

product failing to attract a following...lol!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>

>>>> René wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>

>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>

>>>>> René

>>>>

>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to

>>>> work only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because

>>>> it is also tied to the laptop.

>>>>

>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>>> get it to you.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>>

>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was

>>> really that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone

>>> would be installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT

>>> happening. Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they

>>> can't do much with the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>

>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a

>>> small percentage of users out there. That means that most people who

>>> try it don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock

>> and Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>

>> Alias

>

> OMG...that's maybe the dumbest example (excuse?) I've ever heard of a

> product failing to attract a following...lol!

> Frank

 

You weren't expected to understand. Hopefully, Bill will.

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> René

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to

>>>>> work only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because

>>>>> it is also tied to the laptop.

>>>>>

>>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage

>>>>> to get it to you.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was

>>>> really that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire,

>>>> everyone would be installing it and Microsoft would die a slow

>>>> death. NOT happening. Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize

>>>> that they can't do much with the OS, unistall it and go back to

>>>> Windows!

>>>>

>>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a

>>>> small percentage of users out there. That means that most people

>>>> who try it don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock

>>> and Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree

>>> plant.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>>

>> OMG...that's maybe the dumbest example (excuse?) I've ever heard of a

>> product failing to attract a following...lol!

>> Frank

>

>

> You weren't expected to understand. Hopefully, Bill will.

>

> Alias

 

You're really not that bright are you...lol!

Frank

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>> René wrote:

>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>

>>>> René

>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>

>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games. Check

>>> it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many times as

>>> you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as you want. You

>>> can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to get it to you.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

>> installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with

>> the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>

>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

>> percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it

>> don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>

>>

>>

>

> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the Perry

> Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and Roll

> would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>

> Alias

 

Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on. You

can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to is the

numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny blip on the

radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might make a dent. In

40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a RATS ASS. (Not that

I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

 

Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with his

$40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

 

Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open Office

is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are trying to

promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim up Niagra

Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting Ubuntu!

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>

>>>>> René

>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>>

>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games. Check

>>>> it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many times as

>>>> you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as you want. You

>>>> can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to get it to you.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

>>> installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with

>>> the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>

>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

>>> percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it

>>> don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the Perry

>> Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and Roll

>> would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>

>> Alias

>

> Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on. You

> can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to is the

> numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny blip on the

> radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might make a dent. In

> 40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a RATS ASS. (Not that

> I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

>

> Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with his

> $40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

>

> Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open Office

> is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are trying to

> promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim up Niagra

> Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting Ubuntu!

>

>

>

 

Yawn. Linux has only recently become user friendly enough for people who

aren't geeks.

 

Alias

René wrote:

>> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

>> to a different computer....sorry!

>

> So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

> invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

> but it does not comply with the EULA?

 

Bingo! Borrow a generic OEM install CD from someone else if you can,

and install on another machine using the product key from the toshiba

sticker. However, Vista sucks so you really may just want to stay with

XP or try a linux variant.

>

> Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

> surely do not want to buy a new OS.

>

> René

 

 

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free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

David A. Spicer wrote:

> All of the responses you are getting are legally/morally correct. That

> being said, if you know someone with an OEM Home Premium DVD, your key

> should work. But then you would probably have to call the Activation

> Center and lie to them to get it activated.

 

No, you do not have to lie...

When you call for activation, being an educated consumer is beneficial.

Quoted from the MS website:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

 

"Mandatory Product Activation Data

 

* The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two

components:

 

1. Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation

2. Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

 

* The country in which the product is being installed (for Office

XP and Office XP family products only)"

 

You are never required to provide any other info in order to get

activated. The agent is required to activate you immediately if you

phone in and provide only the product ID, hardware hash, and

occasionally the country in which the product(s) is being installed! It

is none of their business if you made hardware changes, why you are

reinstalling, etc and you do not need to answer questions like that. If

they give you a hard time, politely remind them of this policy posted on

their company's website. If still they persist, request politely to

speak to a supervisor and escalate the issue until they give YOU the

paying customer the treatment you deserve!

>

> There, I said it.

>

> "René" <rene.ruppert@googlemail.com> wrote in message

> news:f9f290be-17e9-45a3-9be0-8c5ffe4eb7b1@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

>> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

>> to a different computer....sorry!

>

> So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

> invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

> but it does not comply with the EULA?

>

> Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

> surely do not want to buy a new OS.

>

> René

 

 

 

--

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Submit your nomination at the link below:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on

free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fif4l6$91n$1@aioe.org...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> René

>>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>>>

>>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>>>> get it to you.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>>>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

>>>> installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>>>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with

>>>> the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>>

>>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

>>>> percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it

>>>> don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

>>> Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on.

>> You can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to is

>> the numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny blip

>> on the radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might make a

>> dent. In 40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a RATS

>> ASS. (Not that I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

>>

>> Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with

>> his $40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

>>

>> Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open

>> Office is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are

>> trying to promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim

>> up Niagra Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting

>> Ubuntu!

>>

>>

>>

>

> Yawn. Linux has only recently become user friendly enough for people who

> aren't geeks.

>

> Alias

 

You live in your own world.

"Vista User" <VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote in message

news:fifbpc$37v$1@aioe.org...

>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fif4l6$91n$1@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> René

>>>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>>>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>>>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>>>>> get it to you.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>>>>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would

>>>>> be installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>>>>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much

>>>>> with the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>>>

>>>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a

>>>>> small percentage of users out there. That means that most people who

>>>>> try it don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>>>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

>>>> Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on.

>>> You can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to

>>> is the numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny

>>> blip on the radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might

>>> make a dent. In 40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a

>>> RATS ASS. (Not that I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

>>>

>>> Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with

>>> his $40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

>>>

>>> Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open

>>> Office is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are

>>> trying to promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim

>>> up Niagra Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting

>>> Ubuntu!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Yawn. Linux has only recently become user friendly enough for people who

>> aren't geeks.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You live in your own world.

>

Yes, but it's an Open Source World :-(

 

Sometimes that is all you can afford!

 

>

Vista User wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fif4l6$91n$1@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> René

>>>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>>>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>>>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>>>>> get it to you.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>>>>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would be

>>>>> installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>>>>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much with

>>>>> the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>>>

>>>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a small

>>>>> percentage of users out there. That means that most people who try it

>>>>> don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>>>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

>>>> Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>> Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on.

>>> You can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to is

>>> the numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny blip

>>> on the radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might make a

>>> dent. In 40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a RATS

>>> ASS. (Not that I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

>>>

>>> Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with

>>> his $40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

>>>

>>> Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open

>>> Office is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are

>>> trying to promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim

>>> up Niagra Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting

>>> Ubuntu!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Yawn. Linux has only recently become user friendly enough for people who

>> aren't geeks.

>>

>> Alias

>

> You live in your own world.

>

>

 

Yep, I live in my own world. Whose world do you live in, someone else's?

 

Alias

René wrote:

>> The Toshiba OEM Windows Vista license cannot be transferred

>> to a different computer....sorry!

>

> So what will happen? Will it say rightaway that the product key is

> invalid or will I have to reactivate the OS? Or is ist, that it works

> but it does not comply with the EULA?

>

> Come on, I mean, if I have to/want to exchange a main HW component I

> surely do not want to buy a new OS.

 

Systems from major manufacturers (including your Toshiba) have the OS locked

to the BIOS of the target computer. Even if Toshiba supplied you with an OEM

DVD containing Vista, it would not work and cannot be made to work on a

machine having a different BIOS.

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Vista User" <VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote in message

> news:fifbpc$37v$1@aioe.org...

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fif4l6$91n$1@aioe.org...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fif09o$pme$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:fietqr$hpq$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>>> René wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but technically it won't work.

>>>>>>>> What will not work? The extraction?

>>>>>>>> What about the other possibility (using another install DVD)?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> René

>>>>>>> Sorry, it won't work because the restore CD has been designed to work

>>>>>>> only on the laptop. Your product key won't work either because it is

>>>>>>> also tied to the laptop.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You might want to consider Open Source Linux if you don't need the

>>>>>>> advanced features of Office and if you don't play computer games.

>>>>>>> Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com. It's free and can be copied as many

>>>>>>> times as you like. It can also be installed on as many computers as

>>>>>>> you want. You can order the CD and they will even pay the postage to

>>>>>>> get it to you.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> Yea, you MIGHT want to consider the FREE Ubuntu. If Ubuntu was really

>>>>>> that great, word of mouth would spread like wildfire, everyone would

>>>>>> be installing it and Microsoft would die a slow death. NOT happening.

>>>>>> Small groups of people try Ubuntu, realize that they can't do much

>>>>>> with the OS, unistall it and go back to Windows!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Imagine, a FREE OS out there and year after year, it only gains a

>>>>>> small percentage of users out there. That means that most people who

>>>>>> try it don't like it. The figures tell the truth.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>> The Blues started in the 20s. It didn't catch on until 1956. All the

>>>>> Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Doris Day fans said Rock and

>>>>> Roll would never make it. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>> Oops. So you are saying that it took the Blues 30+ years to catch on.

>>>> You can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges. What it comes down to

>>>> is the numbers and Linux has been around 20+ years and STILL is a tiny

>>>> blip on the radar. Give it another 40+ years and maybe it just might

>>>> make a dent. In 40 years, I will be pushing up daisies and won't give a

>>>> RATS ASS. (Not that I give a RATS ASS now, because I don't!!!!)

>>>>

>>>> Tried Ubuntu, ditched it like a used car salesman running after me with

>>>> his $40 cheap wrinkled Sears striped suit!!!

>>>>

>>>> Until that time, realize that Ubuntu is nothing more than a TOY, Open

>>>> Office is still a baby in diapers (and the diaper is full), and you are

>>>> trying to promote them both. You would have better luck trying to swim

>>>> up Niagra Falls during a rain storm than to get anywhere promoting

>>>> Ubuntu!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Yawn. Linux has only recently become user friendly enough for people who

>>> aren't geeks.

>>>

>>> Alias

>> You live in your own world.

>>

> Yes, but it's an Open Source World :-(

>

> Sometimes that is all you can afford!

 

And your source for my financial wherewithal is what? Your imagination?

Frank? Your wishful thinking?

 

Alias

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'

wrote:

> David A. Spicer wrote:

>> All of the responses you are getting are legally/morally correct. That

>> being said, if you know someone with an OEM Home Premium DVD, your key

>> should work. But then you would probably have to call the Activation

>> Center and lie to them to get it activated.

>

> No, you do not have to lie...

> When you call for activation, being an educated consumer is beneficial.

> Quoted from the MS website:

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

>

> "Mandatory Product Activation Data

>

> * The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two

> components:

>

> 1. Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation

> 2. Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

>

> * The country in which the product is being installed (for Office XP

> and Office XP family products only)"

>

> You are never required to provide any other info in order to get

> activated. The agent is required to activate you immediately if you

> phone in and provide only the product ID, hardware hash, and

> occasionally the country in which the product(s) is being installed! It

> is none of their business if you made hardware changes, why you are

> reinstalling, etc and you do not need to answer questions like that. If

> they give you a hard time, politely remind them of this policy posted on

> their company's website. If still they persist, request politely to

> speak to a supervisor and escalate the issue until they give YOU the

> paying customer the treatment you deserve!

 

 

Which all comes back to my original complaint, if they "Will" activate

anyway how does this prevent piracy.

 

I suppose it may be that such an activated copy provides "Some" feedback

to MS enabling them to maybe track a particular batch of forgeries,

providing clues or evidence with which someday they could prosecute a

"Mr Big", but that seems to be stretching reality a bit. One Mr Big vs

100,000 annoyed / confused customers seems to me to be screaming "Linux"

or "Mac" at the top of one's lungs.

 

I suppose one way to stop piracy is to make the product so unusable that

nobody wants it :)