Where did the LinTards go so horribly Wrong?

November 19, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> What is wrong with giving stuff away?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, the motivation for giving it away is the

>>>>>>>>>>> problem. You can bet your next WGA check that the motivation

>>>>>>>>>>> was not based in altruism.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so you think you and linux are altruistic?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't say or think that. You made it up to lamely try

>>>>>>>>> and change the subject to Linux instead of what was being

>>>>>>>>> discussed, Microsoft.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Snip unfounded insults and lies.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> More lies? You brought up the term under the pretense of MS, not

>>>>>>>> me.

>>>>>>>> You're lying loser.

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You're losing it, Frank. Your mind can't even think logically

>>>>>>> anymore. Get help.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Trying to dodge the subject matter won't work. Oh, btw, I'm not

>>>>>> the brainless fool trolling this MS Vista ng pushing linux...you are.

>>>>>> So lets hear that "think logically" dodge again?

>>>>>> You apparently, "lost it" a long, long time ago.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Now Frank resorts to the kindergarten reply of "I know you are but

>>>>> what am I". Grow up, Frank.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> Still dodging the subject matter huh? No that bright are you mr liar.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> You: 20 watt bulb on its last legs. Me: the Sun.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> You are one delusional liar. See NoStop for some mental help. You two

>> can proly get a group discount...LOL!

>> Frank

>

> Me: honest Abe. You: George Bush

>

> Alias

Ahahaha...you are a lying linux troll...we all know it.

Idiot!

Frank

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November 19, 200717 yr

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:28:52 -0800, HangEveryRepubliKKKan wrote:

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>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>> knowing

>>> that less than a year ago

>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>> Linux

>>> as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote

>> I never predicted that.

>

> And now come the denials. LinTards scattering from the light like

> cockroaches.

>

>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>> and

>>> the LinTard OS has an even

>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote

>> At least one estimate made from counting visits to a large number of

>> technical and non-technical web sites, estimates the number of systems

>> USING Linux is about the same as the usage by Vista and MAC combined.

>

> It's called biased sampling. Go learn some sampling theory.

I expect I know much more about sampling theory than you do.

>

> So what happened LinTards?

>

> Where did you go wrong?

Didn't. If you really believe that B.S. then you have nothing to worry

about - you're acting like a scared rabbitt.

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November 19, 200717 yr

"Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>> I agree with this poast!

>>

>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>> knowing that less than a year ago

>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>

>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>

>> So what happened LinTards?

>>

>> Where did you go wrong?

>

> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of WinDos

> crap on them.

>

> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is also

free.

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November 19, 200717 yr

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

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> Me: the Sun.

So you liken yourself to The Sun, worthless tabloid rag it is too.

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November 19, 200717 yr

dennis@home wrote:

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> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>

>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>

>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of

>>> Vista and the LinTard OS has an even

>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>

>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>

>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>

>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a

>> big deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in

>> and give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of

>> WinDos crap on them.

>>

>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>

>

> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

> also free.

No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't

stepped in and said rhey wanted Mandriva.

It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier

for $400,000 for the supplier to dump Mandriva.

Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others so

thewy could decide for themselves which would suit

them better.

MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If

Linux was so bad MS would wait for linux to fail a

test like this.

Very Unethical on MS's part.

caver1

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November 19, 200717 yr

"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>>

>>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>

>>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>

>>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>>

>>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>>

>>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

>>> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of WinDos

>>> crap on them.

>>>

>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>

>> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

>> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>> also free.

>

> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

> rhey wanted Mandriva.

> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

> Very Unethical on MS's part.

> caver1

Linux users don't understand ethics.

The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

You must know this.

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November 19, 200717 yr

I missed that apparently, how many milliseconds did it last for?

Actually there's nothing wrong with a monopoly per-se, the problem as

always comes from abuse of that position.

I mean define monopoly, the oil companies are independent on paper but

all charge about the same for oil products, funeral directors are

independent, but go buy yourself a funeral and they all cost about the

same, and that really is what you might call a "Captive Audience".

MICHAEL wrote:

> It happened at about the same time politicians

> stopped lying. -)

>

> -Michael

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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>> Since when is any big business ethical?

>>

>> --

>> Mike Hall - MVP

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>> Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>

>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> No. It comes under the general heading of marketing.

>>>>

>>>

>>> That type of marketing was deemed illegal in the US.

>>> It is very unethical.

>>> caver1

>>

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November 19, 200717 yr

>>

>> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>> rhey wanted Mandriva.

>> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

>> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>> Very Unethical on MS's part.

>> caver1

>

> Linux users don't understand ethics.

> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

> You must know this.

>

Since the majority of Linux Is Freely given under

GPL. How can it be pirated?

The only ones complaining about pirating of their

software is MS. Linux users don't want MS

products. So why would they be the pirates? Its

Windows users that do the pirating.

caver1

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November 19, 200717 yr

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'

wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> Undercutting is standard business practice. Where is the double standard?

>>

>

> "Generally speaking, this statement hits me as exceedingly hypocritical.

> We hear repeatedly out of MVPs in these groups that it is unethical to

> do anything with windows that is not specifically stated in the EULA to

> be allowed. For example, borrowing a windows install cd from a friend

> and using the 30 day grace period for trying it out before buying a

> license. However, the same posters will make comments like the one

> above. Why would you who claim to to so ethical by following the

> license to the letter for MS products adopt the double standard of

> supporting such an unethical company as MS?"

>

> I mean exactly what I said above in my quoted post, Mike. You and some

> others talk down anyone who does not follow the EULA to the letter as

> doing such unethical things, yet you endorse a company so unethical and

> criminalistic as Microsoft?! You give off this impression that

> everything that MS does is fine, and they can do no wrong. That is a

> total double standard and I'm sorry if you can't understand that.

>

I entirely agree although I don't think it's always deliberate or

knowingly, it is a matter of "Perception". (Should add here that I do

not refer to Mike personally - I mean this in general).

It is near impossible to follow any EULA to the letter, rather like

trying to follow the Bible or Quran to the letter, instead it gets

broken down into the parable that fits a situation best at that given time.

I am darned sure that MS "Could" make a legal case against me or any

other MVP / MSDN / Technet member any time they wanted, there is certain

to be "Something" I did that broke some rule or other. I don't know

because I didn't do it deliberately, and a lot of people don't, because

one damned Lawyer will interpret some part of it differently.

A more important question, instead of throwing legal chapter and verse

around is "Was harm done or intended", the law USED to be based on

intent more than anything else and not or raising Lawyer's salaries :)

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November 20, 200717 yr

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:23:22 -0500, "forty-nine" <49@linux.sux> wrote:

>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>>>

>>>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>>>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>

>>>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>

>>>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>>>

>>>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

>>>> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of WinDos

>>>> crap on them.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>

>>> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

>>> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>> also free.

>>

>> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>> rhey wanted Mandriva.

>> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

>> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>> Very Unethical on MS's part.

>> caver1

>

>Linux users don't understand ethics.

>The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>You must know this.

You're getting to sound as nuts as Frank.

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November 20, 200717 yr

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:23:22 -0500, "forty-nine" <49@linux.sux> wrote:

>

>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

>>news:uGHAsjvKIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of

>>>>>> Vista

>>>>>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>>>>

>>>>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a

>>>>> big

>>>>> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>>> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of

>>>>> WinDos

>>>>> crap on them.

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>>

>>>> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place

>>>> and

>>>> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>>> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>>> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>>> also free.

>>>

>>> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>>> rhey wanted Mandriva.

>>> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>>> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on

>>> others

>>> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>>> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>>> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>>> Very Unethical on MS's part.

>>> caver1

>>

>>Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>>That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>You must know this.

>

> You're getting to sound as nuts as Frank.

>

I need a vacation !

It's hard keeping up with these Linuts !

I might vacation in Spain...maybe Alias will let me sleep in his yard.

But he prattle on about ufundoh and I'll get no sleep.

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Adam Albright wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:23:22 -0500, "forty-nine" <49@linux.sux> wrote:

>

>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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>>

>>>dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>"Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>

>>>>>>"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I agree with this poast!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>>>knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>>>you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>>>Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>>>>>and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>>>smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Where did you go wrong?

>>>>>

>>>>>That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

>>>>>deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>>>give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of WinDos

>>>>>crap on them.

>>>>>

>>>>>http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>>

>>>>What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

>>>>went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>>>Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>>>Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>>>also free.

>>>

>>>No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>>>rhey wanted Mandriva.

>>>It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>>>supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

>>>so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>>>MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>>>wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>>>Very Unethical on MS's part.

>>>caver1

>>

>>Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>>That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>You must know this.

>

> You're getting to sound as nuts as Frank.

>

That'd make him twice as smart as you'll ever hope to be mr pig...lol!

Frank

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is wrong with giving stuff away?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, the motivation for giving it away is the

>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. You can bet your next WGA check that the motivation

>>>>>>>>>>>> was not based in altruism.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so you think you and linux are altruistic?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't say or think that. You made it up to lamely try

>>>>>>>>>> and change the subject to Linux instead of what was being

>>>>>>>>>> discussed, Microsoft.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Snip unfounded insults and lies.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> More lies? You brought up the term under the pretense of MS,

>>>>>>>>> not me.

>>>>>>>>> You're lying loser.

>>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You're losing it, Frank. Your mind can't even think logically

>>>>>>>> anymore. Get help.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Trying to dodge the subject matter won't work. Oh, btw, I'm not

>>>>>>> the brainless fool trolling this MS Vista ng pushing linux...you

>>>>>>> are.

>>>>>>> So lets hear that "think logically" dodge again?

>>>>>>> You apparently, "lost it" a long, long time ago.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now Frank resorts to the kindergarten reply of "I know you are but

>>>>>> what am I". Grow up, Frank.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> Still dodging the subject matter huh? No that bright are you mr liar.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> You: 20 watt bulb on its last legs. Me: the Sun.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> You are one delusional liar. See NoStop for some mental help. You two

>>> can proly get a group discount...LOL!

>>> Frank

>>

>> Me: honest Abe. You: George Bush

>>

>> Alias

>

> Ahahaha...you are a lying linux troll...we all know it.

> Idiot!

> Frank

Me: helpful poster. You: troll who helps no one and can only insult, lie

and bluster.

Alias

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dennis@home wrote:

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> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

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>> Me: the Sun.

>

> So you liken yourself to The Sun, worthless tabloid rag it is too.

The sun is a celestial body, without which you would DIE.

Alias

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forty-nine wrote:

> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>>>

>>>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>>>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>

>>>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>

>>>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>>>

>>>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

>>>> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of

>>>> WinDos

>>>> crap on them.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>>

>>>

>>> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

>>> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>> also free.

>>

>> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>> rhey wanted Mandriva.

>> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

>> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>> Very Unethical on MS's part.

>> caver1

>

> Linux users don't understand ethics.

My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you always

think this way?

> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

> You must know this.

>

Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more than

Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows products,

used by Windows users to steal.

And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated

software only reveals how ill informed you really are.

The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your

bias and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

Alias

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"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

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> forty-nine wrote:

>>

>> Linux users don't understand ethics.

>

> My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you always

> think this way?

>

>> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>> You must know this.

>>

>

> Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more than

> Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows products, used

> by Windows users to steal.

I am not familiar with any of those programs.

I have heard Kazaa will put tons of trash on your PC

I have heard of Napster, a program for teenagers, which I believe got in

trouble and sells songs now.

No idea what eMule is.

>

> And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated software

> only reveals how ill informed you really are.

>

> The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

> software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your bias

> and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

>

> Alias

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forty-nine wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%234THmzwKIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> forty-nine wrote:

>>>

>>> Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>

>> My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you

>> always think this way?

>>

>>> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and

>>> music.

>>> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>> You must know this.

>>>

>>

>> Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more

>> than Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows

>> products, used by Windows users to steal.

>

> I am not familiar with any of those programs.

> I have heard Kazaa will put tons of trash on your PC

> I have heard of Napster, a program for teenagers, which I believe got in

> trouble and sells songs now.

> No idea what eMule is.

Do you know what Google is?

Alias

>

>>

>> And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated

>> software only reveals how ill informed you really are.

>>

>> The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

>> software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your

>> bias and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

>>

>> Alias

>

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"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

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> forty-nine wrote:

>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:%234THmzwKIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> forty-nine wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>>

>>> My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you always

>>> think this way?

>>>

>>>> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and

>>>> music.

>>>> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>>> You must know this.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more than

>>> Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows products,

>>> used by Windows users to steal.

>>

>> I am not familiar with any of those programs.

>> I have heard Kazaa will put tons of trash on your PC

>> I have heard of Napster, a program for teenagers, which I believe got in

>> trouble and sells songs now.

>> No idea what eMule is.

>

> Do you know what Google is?

>

> Alias

>>

>>>

>>> And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated

>>> software only reveals how ill informed you really are.

>>>

>>> The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

>>> software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your

>>> bias and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

What should I Google ?

I have no need to use or be aware of those things.

eMule...my guess is it takes one to Hillary's website.

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Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is wrong with giving stuff away?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, the motivation for giving it away is the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. You can bet your next WGA check that the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivation was not based in altruism.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so you think you and linux are altruistic?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't say or think that. You made it up to lamely try

>>>>>>>>>>> and change the subject to Linux instead of what was being

>>>>>>>>>>> discussed, Microsoft.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Snip unfounded insults and lies.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> More lies? You brought up the term under the pretense of MS,

>>>>>>>>>> not me.

>>>>>>>>>> You're lying loser.

>>>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You're losing it, Frank. Your mind can't even think logically

>>>>>>>>> anymore. Get help.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Trying to dodge the subject matter won't work. Oh, btw, I'm not

>>>>>>>> the brainless fool trolling this MS Vista ng pushing linux...you

>>>>>>>> are.

>>>>>>>> So lets hear that "think logically" dodge again?

>>>>>>>> You apparently, "lost it" a long, long time ago.

>>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now Frank resorts to the kindergarten reply of "I know you are

>>>>>>> but what am I". Grow up, Frank.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Still dodging the subject matter huh? No that bright are you mr liar.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> You: 20 watt bulb on its last legs. Me: the Sun.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> You are one delusional liar. See NoStop for some mental help. You

>>>> two can proly get a group discount...LOL!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Me: honest Abe. You: George Bush

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> Ahahaha...you are a lying linux troll...we all know it.

>> Idiot!

>> Frank

>

> Me: helpful poster. You: troll who helps no one and can only insult, lie

> and bluster.

>

> Alias

You are a shameless linux lying troll. You are also a pathological liar.

You're clueless and classless.

Frank

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Alias wrote:

> forty-nine wrote:

>

>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

>> news:uGHAsjvKIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>

>>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I agree with this poast!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>>> knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>>> you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>>> Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of

>>>>>> Vista

>>>>>> and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>>> smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Where did you go wrong?

>>>>>

>>>>> That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a

>>>>> big

>>>>> deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>>> give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of

>>>>> WinDos

>>>>> crap on them.

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place

>>>> and

>>>> went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>>> Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>>> Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>>> also free.

>>>

>>> No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>>> rhey wanted Mandriva.

>>> It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>>> supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on

>>> others

>>> so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>>> MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>>> wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>>> Very Unethical on MS's part.

>>> caver1

>>

>> Linux users don't understand ethics.

>

> My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you always

> think this way?

>

>> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>> You must know this.

>>

>

> Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more than

> Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows products,

> used by Windows users to steal.

>

> And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated

> software only reveals how ill informed you really are.

>

> The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

> software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your

> bias and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

>

> Alias

Amazing dodge coming from a thief, cheat and liar like you!

Frank

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forty-nine wrote:

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OWQF9FxKIHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> forty-nine wrote:

>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%234THmzwKIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> forty-nine wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>>>

>>>> My, what a broad and totally ill informed generalization. Do you

>>>> always think this way?

>>>>

>>>>> The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and

>>>>> music.

>>>>> That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>>>> You must know this.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Windows users download pirated software, movies and music much more

>>>> than Linux users. eMule ring a bell? Napster? Kazaa? All Windows

>>>> products, used by Windows users to steal.

>>>

>>> I am not familiar with any of those programs.

>>> I have heard Kazaa will put tons of trash on your PC

>>> I have heard of Napster, a program for teenagers, which I believe got

>>> in trouble and sells songs now.

>>> No idea what eMule is.

>>

>> Do you know what Google is?

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>>>

>>>> And for you to say that Linux users use Linux to download pirated

>>>> software only reveals how ill informed you really are.

>>>>

>>>> The OS does not determine who will and who will not download pirated

>>>> software, movies and music. The person using the computer does. Your

>>>> bias and prejudice towards Linux users is very revealing, though.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>

> What should I Google ?

> I have no need to use or be aware of those things.

> eMule...my guess is it takes one to Hillary's website.

Head. Sand. Ostrich. = YOU.

Alias

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> forty-nine wrote:

>>

>> What should I Google ?

>> I have no need to use or be aware of those things.

>> eMule...my guess is it takes one to Hillary's website.

>

> Head. Sand. Ostrich. = YOU.

>

> Alias

Goofy. Old. Retard. = You

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caver1 wrote:

> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'

> wrote:

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> Since when is any big business ethical?

>>>

>>

>> Generally speaking, this statement hits me as exceedingly

>> hypocritical. We hear repeatedly out of MVPs in these groups that it

>> is unethical to do anything with windows that is not specifically

>> stated in the EULA to be allowed. For example, borrowing a windows

>> install cd from a friend and using the 30 day grace period for trying

>> it out before buying a license. However, the same porters will make

>> comments like the one above. Why would you who claim to to so ethical

>> by following the license to the letter for MS products adopt the

>> double standard of supporting such an unethical company as MS?

>>

>

> That's because some try to live by their ethics and others ethics are

> governed by thier wants at the time.

> caver1

That's true. I was just pointing it out to him because he (and some

others) seem to not even notice their double standard.

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Undercutting is standard business practice. Where is the double standard?

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> caver1 wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'

>> wrote:

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>> Since when is any big business ethical?

>>>>

>>>

>>> Generally speaking, this statement hits me as exceedingly hypocritical.

>>> We hear repeatedly out of MVPs in these groups that it is unethical to

>>> do anything with windows that is not specifically stated in the EULA to

>>> be allowed. For example, borrowing a windows install cd from a friend

>>> and using the 30 day grace period for trying it out before buying a

>>> license. However, the same porters will make comments like the one

>>> above. Why would you who claim to to so ethical by following the

>>> license to the letter for MS products adopt the double standard of

>>> supporting such an unethical company as MS?

>>>

>>

>> That's because some try to live by their ethics and others ethics are

>> governed by thier wants at the time.

>> caver1

>

> That's true. I was just pointing it out to him because he (and some

> others) seem to not even notice their double standard.

>

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> rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:13:38 -0800, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:23:22 -0500, "forty-nine" <49@linux.sux> wrote:

>>

>>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

>>>news:uGHAsjvKIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>dennis@home wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>"Martin Langsholt" <mlan76@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>news:fhrrps$h71$1@news.get.no...

>>>>>

>>>>>>>"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I agree with this poast!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I would just like to know how you LinTards manage to sleep at night

>>>>>>>knowing that less than a year ago

>>>>>>>you were predicting the imminent failure of Microsoft and the rise of

>>>>>>>Linux as the new standard on the PC desktop.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Now a year later, Microsoft has sold about 100 million copies of Vista

>>>>>>>and the LinTard OS has an even

>>>>>>>smaller presence in the marketplace.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>So what happened LinTards?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Where did you go wrong?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>That's not the Linux community's fault. Thats Micro$oft. Whenever a big

>>>>>>deal is made with a company in the linux world, Micro$oft comes in and

>>>>>>give their products away for free. Pushing the lastest version of WinDos

>>>>>>crap on them.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/mandriva-nigeria-gate-man

>>>>>

>>>>>What it shows is that the customer wanted windows in the first place and

>>>>>went for Mandriva because they couldn't afford windows.

>>>>>Once windows was made available the customer jumped at the opportunity.

>>>>>Now you can say giving windows away is bad but remember that Linux is

>>>>>also free.

>>>>

>>>>No. If you look at the articles the Nigerian gov't stepped in and said

>>>>rhey wanted Mandriva.

>>>>It was MS trying to make a deal with the supplier for $400,000 for the

>>>>supplier to dump Mandriva. Nigeria wanted Win on some and Linux on others

>>>>so thewy could decide for themselves which would suit them better.

>>>>MS is even scared for others to test Linux. If Linux was so bad MS would

>>>>wait for linux to fail a test like this.

>>>>Very Unethical on MS's part.

>>>>caver1

>>>

>>>Linux users don't understand ethics.

>>>The biggest use of Linux desktops is pirating software, movies,and music.

>>>That's where any increase in use is from dolt.

>>>You must know this.

>>

>> You're getting to sound as nuts as Frank.

>>

>That'd make him twice as smart as you'll ever hope to be mr pig...lol!

>Frank

The topic is you Frank. Any "adult" that constantly refers to others

as mr pig or any of the other always juvenile stunts you try to do and

accuses people of being drunk or a liar doesn't have all his marbles.

You're a sick and obviously mentally disturbed old fool. Get help.

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