Charlie Tame wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>

>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:30:30 -0700, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>> DiBoy' wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Only 138 euros, less than one Generic OEM copy of Windows XP Pro:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005830.html

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> How many Big Stores were offering Linux when XP made the scene?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Wow! Heck-of-a deal.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> One could get the hardware, load Vista on the machine, and have a

>>>>>>> fairly nice box for ordinary things.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Quote:

>>>>>> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "At the heart of the gPC TC2502 is an energy-efficient 1.5GHz, VIA

>>>>>> C7-D processor. This CPU draws less than 2W on average (with a

>>>>>> maximum of 20W). Operating at a mere 28dB, the gPC also ranks as

>>>>>> the quietest Everex desktop computer ever produced. It also

>>>>>> includes 512MB of system memory, 80GB hard disk drive and

>>>>>> DVD-ROM/CD-RW optical drive. The system also comes with six USB

>>>>>> 2.0 ports an RJ45 Ethernet port an RJ11 port and a serial and

>>>>>> parallel port.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The package, which doesn't include a monitor, does include a

>>>>>> keyboard, mouse and stereo speakers. For graphics, it uses a VIA

>>>>>> UniChrome Pro chipset on the motherboard. This, in turn, uses 64MB

>>>>>> of system memory."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You would not want to load vista on a machine with these specs!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Proly not. But, be that as it is, I've had Vista Ultimate loaded on

>>>>> an old Compaq X1010US with a 1.3gigahertz processor, 32 megs of

>>>>> vram (ATI Radeon 9200) and I've upgraded it to 2 gigs of system RAM.

>>>>> It will only run Vista basic, but it works just fine! I've even got

>>>>> Office 2007 fully loaded and Adobe CS3 MC plus all of the other

>>>>> apps I normally use.

>>>>> It's only limitation at this time is the lack of vram and the small

>>>>> (60gig) HDD.

>>>>> In fact, during Vista beta, I loaded Longhorn 4K series builds on

>>>>> an old Celeron 1 gig, 750 ram, 32 vram box. Slow, but it worked!

>>>>> I've been amazed many times by Vista and what it can actually do

>>>>> when called upon to perform.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I'd be amazed if just once you knew what you were babbling about.

>>>> Hasn't happened yet.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Bear in mind he's not actually having to "Pay" for any of this

>>> software... :)

>>

>>

>> Who told you that?

>> Frank

>

>

>

> Why I assumed it a tax write off via the company...

 

I sure wish tax write-offs were a simplistic as you infer. Truth is, in

order to have any tax write-offs you must first spend the money. In

order to spend money, you must first earn it.

So in effect, you earn your tax write-offs.

Got it?

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Charlie Tame wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>

>>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:30:30 -0700, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>>> DiBoy' wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Only 138 euros, less than one Generic OEM copy of Windows XP Pro:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005830.html

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> How many Big Stores were offering Linux when XP made the scene?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Wow! Heck-of-a deal.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> One could get the hardware, load Vista on the machine, and have

>>>>>>>> a fairly nice box for ordinary things.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Quote:

>>>>>>> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "At the heart of the gPC TC2502 is an energy-efficient 1.5GHz,

>>>>>>> VIA C7-D processor. This CPU draws less than 2W on average (with

>>>>>>> a maximum of 20W). Operating at a mere 28dB, the gPC also ranks

>>>>>>> as the quietest Everex desktop computer ever produced. It also

>>>>>>> includes 512MB of system memory, 80GB hard disk drive and

>>>>>>> DVD-ROM/CD-RW optical drive. The system also comes with six USB

>>>>>>> 2.0 ports an RJ45 Ethernet port an RJ11 port and a serial and

>>>>>>> parallel port.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The package, which doesn't include a monitor, does include a

>>>>>>> keyboard, mouse and stereo speakers. For graphics, it uses a VIA

>>>>>>> UniChrome Pro chipset on the motherboard. This, in turn, uses

>>>>>>> 64MB of system memory."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You would not want to load vista on a machine with these specs!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Proly not. But, be that as it is, I've had Vista Ultimate loaded

>>>>>> on an old Compaq X1010US with a 1.3gigahertz processor, 32 megs of

>>>>>> vram (ATI Radeon 9200) and I've upgraded it to 2 gigs of system RAM.

>>>>>> It will only run Vista basic, but it works just fine! I've even

>>>>>> got Office 2007 fully loaded and Adobe CS3 MC plus all of the

>>>>>> other apps I normally use.

>>>>>> It's only limitation at this time is the lack of vram and the

>>>>>> small (60gig) HDD.

>>>>>> In fact, during Vista beta, I loaded Longhorn 4K series builds on

>>>>>> an old Celeron 1 gig, 750 ram, 32 vram box. Slow, but it worked!

>>>>>> I've been amazed many times by Vista and what it can actually do

>>>>>> when called upon to perform.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I'd be amazed if just once you knew what you were babbling about.

>>>>> Hasn't happened yet.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Bear in mind he's not actually having to "Pay" for any of this

>>>> software... :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Who told you that?

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>>

>> Why I assumed it a tax write off via the company...

>

> I sure wish tax write-offs were a simplistic as you infer. Truth is, in

> order to have any tax write-offs you must first spend the money. In

> order to spend money, you must first earn it.

> So in effect, you earn your tax write-offs.

> Got it?

> Frank

 

 

Yes of course, was just referring back to the now famous "Company"

recently discussed by so many, not that it's really anyone else's

business, but hey, fame at last. :)

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:14:46 -0700, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>Charlie Tame wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Charlie Tame wrote:

>>>

>>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:30:30 -0700, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina

>>>>>> DiBoy' wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Only 138 euros, less than one Generic OEM copy of Windows XP Pro:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005830.html

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> How many Big Stores were offering Linux when XP made the scene?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Wow! Heck-of-a deal.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> One could get the hardware, load Vista on the machine, and have a

>>>>>>>> fairly nice box for ordinary things.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Quote:

>>>>>>> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "At the heart of the gPC TC2502 is an energy-efficient 1.5GHz, VIA

>>>>>>> C7-D processor. This CPU draws less than 2W on average (with a

>>>>>>> maximum of 20W). Operating at a mere 28dB, the gPC also ranks as

>>>>>>> the quietest Everex desktop computer ever produced. It also

>>>>>>> includes 512MB of system memory, 80GB hard disk drive and

>>>>>>> DVD-ROM/CD-RW optical drive. The system also comes with six USB

>>>>>>> 2.0 ports an RJ45 Ethernet port an RJ11 port and a serial and

>>>>>>> parallel port.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The package, which doesn't include a monitor, does include a

>>>>>>> keyboard, mouse and stereo speakers. For graphics, it uses a VIA

>>>>>>> UniChrome Pro chipset on the motherboard. This, in turn, uses 64MB

>>>>>>> of system memory."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You would not want to load vista on a machine with these specs!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Proly not. But, be that as it is, I've had Vista Ultimate loaded on

>>>>>> an old Compaq X1010US with a 1.3gigahertz processor, 32 megs of

>>>>>> vram (ATI Radeon 9200) and I've upgraded it to 2 gigs of system RAM.

>>>>>> It will only run Vista basic, but it works just fine! I've even got

>>>>>> Office 2007 fully loaded and Adobe CS3 MC plus all of the other

>>>>>> apps I normally use.

>>>>>> It's only limitation at this time is the lack of vram and the small

>>>>>> (60gig) HDD.

>>>>>> In fact, during Vista beta, I loaded Longhorn 4K series builds on

>>>>>> an old Celeron 1 gig, 750 ram, 32 vram box. Slow, but it worked!

>>>>>> I've been amazed many times by Vista and what it can actually do

>>>>>> when called upon to perform.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I'd be amazed if just once you knew what you were babbling about.

>>>>> Hasn't happened yet.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Bear in mind he's not actually having to "Pay" for any of this

>>>> software... :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Who told you that?

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>>

>> Why I assumed it a tax write off via the company...

>

>I sure wish tax write-offs were a simplistic as you infer. Truth is, in

>order to have any tax write-offs you must first spend the money. In

>order to spend money, you must first earn it.

>So in effect, you earn your tax write-offs.

>Got it?

>Frank

 

You just got caught in another screw-up. A business expense IS a tax

write-off. A company does not need to "earn money" in order to deduct

the expense. In fact if your business expenses exceed your business

income you may carry a portion of your losses forward to the next

year. Anyone that REALLY owns a business knows that since most new

businesses lose money the first year or two. Again you offer more

proof you don't run a business then any proof you do. You're just a

bullshit artist and a poor one at that.

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux. Ergo,

> on topic in this ng.

 

Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

newsgroup? :)

 

here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray for you

own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as anyone else

unfortunate to have listened to you.

 

:)

 

 

Repent! .. its not too late

 

 

Rich

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Rich wrote:

>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>

> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

> newsgroup? :)

 

No.

>

> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray for

> you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as anyone

> else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>

> :)

>

>

> Repent! .. its not too late

>

>

> Rich

 

Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

advantages over Vista.

 

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Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Rich wrote:

>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux. Ergo,

>>> on topic in this ng.

>>

>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>> newsgroup? :)

>

> No.

>

>>

>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray for

>> you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as anyone

>> else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>

>> :)

>>

>>

>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>

>>

>> Rich

>

> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

> advantages over Vista.

 

Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already be

using?

Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best iffy

on Ubuntu.

Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have used a

windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them up properly.

Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine when

Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

unsuspecting victims of your advice.

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>> Rich wrote:

>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>

>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>> newsgroup? :)

>>

>> No.

>>

>>>

>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray

>>> for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as

>>> anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>

>>> :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>

>>>

>>> Rich

>>

>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>> advantages over Vista.

>

> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already

> be using?

> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

> iffy on Ubuntu.

> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have

> used a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them

> up properly.

> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>

>

 

 

Well at least you're honest about where you stand

dennis.

Caver1

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

And he claims to be 'helping'..

 

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"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

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>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>> Rich wrote:

>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>

>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>> newsgroup? :)

>>

>> No.

>>

>>>

>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray for

>>> you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as anyone

>>> else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>

>>> :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>

>>>

>>> Rich

>>

>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>> advantages over Vista.

>

> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already be

> using?

> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

> iffy on Ubuntu.

> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have used

> a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them up

> properly.

> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine when

> Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>

>

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>> Rich wrote:

>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>

>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>> newsgroup? :)

>>

>> No.

>>

>>>

>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray

>>> for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as

>>> anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>

>>> :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>

>>>

>>> Rich

>>

>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>> advantages over Vista.

>

> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already

> be using?

 

Most people won't have this problem. Those who do should dual boot.

> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

> iffy on Ubuntu.

 

There are plenty of web sites with screen shots showing you exactly how

to install Ubuntu. I've never had a problem installing Ubuntu on a dual

boot with Windows.

 

A simple Google search came up with a page dedicated to a dual install

of Vista and Ubuntu:

 

http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first

> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have

> used a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them

> up properly.

 

Back up is a computer user's best friend no matter what OS they use.

> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

 

And going from XP to Vista has no learning curve?

> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

 

If one can follow simple instructions during the install, nothing is

deleted from Windows. Of course, if one is *switching* from Windows to

Ubuntu, one would want to wipe out Windows anyway.

> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

 

Yeah, like no WGA, no WPA, not nearly as virus and malware prone as

Windows, no "one license per computer" crap like you get with Windows

and Compiz Fusion makes Aero look like an amateur wrote it.

 

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Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> And he claims to be 'helping'..

>

 

I am. BTW, Mike, when are you going to learn how to post on Usenet

properly and stop top posting?

 

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Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

I know how to, but it is all down to personal choice. There has to be

something in the constitution about that, yes? It probably comes under the

general heading of 'rights'.

 

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"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> And he claims to be 'helping'..

>>

>

> I am. BTW, Mike, when are you going to learn how to post on Usenet

> properly and stop top posting?

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Do you have 7.10 installed now?

 

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"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

news:fgf769$151$1@aioe.org...

> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>>> Rich wrote:

>>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>>

>>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>>> newsgroup? :)

>>>

>>> No.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray

>>>> for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as

>>>> anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>>

>>>> :)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Rich

>>>

>>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>>> advantages over Vista.

>>

>> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already

>> be using?

>

> Most people won't have this problem. Those who do should dual boot.

>

>> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

>> iffy on Ubuntu.

>

> There are plenty of web sites with screen shots showing you exactly how to

> install Ubuntu. I've never had a problem installing Ubuntu on a dual boot

> with Windows.

>

> A simple Google search came up with a page dedicated to a dual install of

> Vista and Ubuntu:

>

> http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first

>

>> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

>> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have used

>> a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them up

>> properly.

>

> Back up is a computer user's best friend no matter what OS they use.

>

>> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

>

> And going from XP to Vista has no learning curve?

>

>> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

>> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

>

> If one can follow simple instructions during the install, nothing is

> deleted from Windows. Of course, if one is *switching* from Windows to

> Ubuntu, one would want to wipe out Windows anyway.

>

>> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

>> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>

> Yeah, like no WGA, no WPA, not nearly as virus and malware prone as

> Windows, no "one license per computer" crap like you get with Windows and

> Compiz Fusion makes Aero look like an amateur wrote it.

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

ray wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:04:24 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> Wal-Mart had Linux computers back in 2002..

>

> For the record, walmart has never before offered Linux computers in

> their brick and mortar stores - only online.

 

Wonder if that's because they'd have to have 1,600 computers - as display

models - in their stores vs. the three that they have in the on-line

fullfillment center?

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Do you have 7.10 installed now?

>

 

Not yet. I am still waiting for the CDs. Why do you keep asking?

 

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Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> I know how to, but it is all down to personal choice. There has to be

> something in the constitution about that, yes? It probably comes under

> the general heading of 'rights'.

>

 

But your delimiter nukes all but your post when people use news readers

that aren't from Redmond.

 

You are free to post upside down for all I care. It's your image that's

presented on Usenet as not knowing how to post properly, not mine.

 

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HeyBub wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Only 138 euros, less than one Generic OEM copy of Windows XP Pro:

>>

>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005830.html

>>

>> How many Big Stores were offering Linux when XP made the scene?

>

> Wow! Heck-of-a deal.

>

> One could get the hardware, load Vista on the machine, and have a fairly

> nice box for ordinary things.

 

Good luck trying to run that bloatware on this ITX mobo.

 

Cheers.

 

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Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Would you like some help in downloading the 7.10 ISO and creating an

installation CD? You only have to ask.

 

You are missing out on Compiz-Fusion and all of the exciting stuff.

 

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"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> Do you have 7.10 installed now?

>>

>

> Not yet. I am still waiting for the CDs. Why do you keep asking?

>

> --

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>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Would you like some help in downloading the 7.10 ISO and creating an

> installation CD? You only have to ask.

 

I know how to do that. Download ISO, insert blank CD in my burner, open

Nero and burn the image. Done.

> You are missing out on Compiz-Fusion and all of the exciting stuff.

>

 

As I have stated before, I always wait for the CDs so that any post

release bugs are worked out before I install it. I also am tied up

replacing a dorked motherboard on one of my machines, the one I want to

install Gutsy on so even if the CDs came in the mail today, I wouldn't

be installing it today.

 

Never fear, however, when I do install it, all of you will get a full

report -)

 

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Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

We will have downloaded 8.04 by the time your full report appears.

 

Waiting for a post release bug fixed CD? Are the producing a special version

just for you?

 

A 'dorked' motherboard which just happens to be the target Gutsy machine?

That would take maybe an hour to replace.

 

Not using your XP/Ubuntu dual boot machine? The one where you do your real

work?

 

Presumably busy when asked by an OP for help with installing 7.10? Strange

how you are always busy if anybody here needs Ubuntu help. Is this what you

tell your local converts too?

 

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"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> Would you like some help in downloading the 7.10 ISO and creating an

>> installation CD? You only have to ask.

>

> I know how to do that. Download ISO, insert blank CD in my burner, open

> Nero and burn the image. Done.

>

>> You are missing out on Compiz-Fusion and all of the exciting stuff.

>>

>

> As I have stated before, I always wait for the CDs so that any post

> release bugs are worked out before I install it. I also am tied up

> replacing a dorked motherboard on one of my machines, the one I want to

> install Gutsy on so even if the CDs came in the mail today, I wouldn't be

> installing it today.

>

> Never fear, however, when I do install it, all of you will get a full

> report -)

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> We will have downloaded 8.04 by the time your full report appears.

 

Care to put some money on that, say 2000 euros?

> Waiting for a post release bug fixed CD? Are the producing a special

> version just for you?

 

No. CDs arrive. I install Ubuntu. I wait. A little orange star appears

in the top right hand corner of the screen to inform me of updates. I

click on it and then click on Install. Done.

>

> A 'dorked' motherboard which just happens to be the target Gutsy

> machine? That would take maybe an hour to replace.

 

The board I need is on the way. I don't have it yet. Boards for Athlon

XP 3000+s are not exactly common any more.

> Not using your XP/Ubuntu dual boot machine? The one where you do your

> real work?

 

I'm on holiday now. No real work to do at the moment. My kid is doing

real University work with that machine.

> Presumably busy when asked by an OP for help with installing 7.10?

 

I wasn't asked by anyone who was serious and you know it.

> Strange how you are always busy if anybody here needs Ubuntu help.

 

Liar.

> Is

> this what you tell your local converts too?

 

Yawn.

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

In line..

 

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http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> We will have downloaded 8.04 by the time your full report appears.

>

> Care to put some money on that, say 2000 euros?

 

M.. Is that how much it will cost to build a decent 'Gutsy'. My Vista box

cost me $700.

>> Waiting for a post release bug fixed CD? Are the producing a special

>> version just for you?

>

> No. CDs arrive. I install Ubuntu. I wait. A little orange star appears in

> the top right hand corner of the screen to inform me of updates. I click

> on it and then click on Install. Done.

 

M.. Even diehard MS users have beaten you to it..

>

>>

>> A 'dorked' motherboard which just happens to be the target Gutsy machine?

>> That would take maybe an hour to replace.

>

> The board I need is on the way. I don't have it yet. Boards for Athlon XP

> 3000+s are not exactly common any more.

 

M.. But you have more than two machines, yes?

>

>> Not using your XP/Ubuntu dual boot machine? The one where you do your

>> real work?

>

> I'm on holiday now. No real work to do at the moment. My kid is doing real

> University work with that machine.

 

M.. I'm sure he/she is.. lol..

 

>

>> Presumably busy when asked by an OP for help with installing 7.10?

>

> I wasn't asked by anyone who was serious and you know it.

>

 

M.. Would it have made any difference in this instance? It hasn't in

others..

>> Strange how you are always busy if anybody here needs Ubuntu help.

>

> Liar.

>

 

M.. You wish..

>> Is this what you tell your local converts too?

>

> Yawn.

>

 

M.. That's a YES then?..

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>>> Rich wrote:

>>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>>

>>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>>> newsgroup? :)

>>>

>>> No.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray

>>>> for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as

>>>> anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>>

>>>> :)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Rich

>>>

>>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>>> advantages over Vista.

>>

>> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already

>> be using?

>> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

>> iffy on Ubuntu.

>> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

>> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have used

>> a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them up

>> properly.

>> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

>> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

>> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

>> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

>> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>>

>>

>

>

> Well at least you're honest about where you stand

 

I'm always honest.

That is why I use windows and unix.. whichever is best for the application.

After all an OS is there to run applications not for users to look at and

think ooh isn't that pretty.

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

news:fgf769$151$1@aioe.org...

> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>>> Rich wrote:

>>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>>

>>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a Vista

>>>> newsgroup? :)

>>>

>>> No.

>>>

>>>>

>>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others astray

>>>> for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as well as

>>>> anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>>

>>>> :)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Rich

>>>

>>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>>> advantages over Vista.

>>

>> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may already

>> be using?

>

> Most people won't have this problem. Those who do should dual boot.

>

>> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at best

>> iffy on Ubuntu.

>

> There are plenty of web sites with screen shots showing you exactly how to

> install Ubuntu. I've never had a problem installing Ubuntu on a dual boot

> with Windows.

>

> A simple Google search came up with a page dedicated to a dual install of

> Vista and Ubuntu:

>

> http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first

 

Do you notice the screen shot that warns you which partition tables are

going to be changed and which partitions are going to be formatted.

That's the one that is identical if you accidently select use whole disk.

Really useful screen that.. not only cryptic but useless.

>> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

>> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have used

>> a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed them up

>> properly.

>

> Back up is a computer user's best friend no matter what OS they use.

 

Shame that that guide you recommended above doesn't bother to mention

backups then.

>> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

>

> And going from XP to Vista has no learning curve?

 

This is a Vista group so they probably have vista.

Even if they are new to vista what you suggest adds another learning curve.

>> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

>> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

>

> If one can follow simple instructions during the install, nothing is

> deleted from Windows. Of course, if one is *switching* from Windows to

> Ubuntu, one would want to wipe out Windows anyway.

 

I see you have not removed windows.

>> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell the

>> unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>

> Yeah, like no WGA, no WPA, not nearly as virus and malware prone as

> Windows, no "one license per computer" crap like you get with Windows and

> Compiz Fusion makes Aero look like an amateur wrote it.

 

Actually Compiz Fusion looks amateurish and is just eye candy.

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

> news:uMriPwUHIHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Rich wrote:

>>>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a

>>>>> Vista newsgroup? :)

>>>>

>>>> No.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others

>>>>> astray for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as

>>>>> well as anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>>>

>>>>> :)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Rich

>>>>

>>>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>>>> advantages over Vista.

>>>

>>> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may

>>> already be using?

>>> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at

>>> best iffy on Ubuntu.

>>> Advantages like losing all your pictures and documents if you are not

>>> careful and not being able to get them back using Ubuntu if you have

>>> used a windows backup program or not at all if you haven't backed

>>> them up properly.

>>> Advantages like having to learn a whole new way of doing things.

>>> Advantages like losing the ability to put windows back on the machine

>>> when Ubuntu deletes the recovery partition needed to reinstall windows.

>>> There is a huge list of "advantages" to Ubuntu that you never tell

>>> the unsuspecting victims of your advice.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> Well at least you're honest about where you stand

>

> I'm always honest.

> That is why I use windows and unix.. whichever is best for the application.

> After all an OS is there to run applications not for users to look at

> and think ooh isn't that pretty.

>

>

 

 

You run Unix and yet can't install Ubuntu?

Right.

caver1

Re: Walmart offers for a wimpy $39.00

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fgf769$151$1@aioe.org...

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fgevge$7na$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Rich wrote:

>>>>>> Vista is one of the main reasons people are heading over to Linux.

>>>>>> Ergo, on topic in this ng.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is Linux that bad .. that you have to live your Linux life in a

>>>>> Vista newsgroup? :)

>>>>

>>>> No.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> here is something to chew on .. if you willfully lead others

>>>>> astray for you own amusement .. you pay the price on your head as

>>>>> well as anyone else unfortunate to have listened to you.

>>>>>

>>>>> :)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Repent! .. its not too late

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Rich

>>>>

>>>> Suggesting Ubuntu is not leading anyone astray when you consider the

>>>> advantages over Vista.

>>>

>>> Advantages like not being able to run windows programs they may

>>> already be using?

>>

>> Most people won't have this problem. Those who do should dual boot.

>>

>>> Advantages like having to learn how to do an OS install that is at

>>> best iffy on Ubuntu.

>>

>> There are plenty of web sites with screen shots showing you exactly

>> how to install Ubuntu. I've never had a problem installing Ubuntu on a

>> dual boot with Windows.

>>

>> A simple Google search came up with a page dedicated to a dual install

>> of Vista and Ubuntu:

>>

>> http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first

>>

>

> Do you notice the screen shot that warns you which partition tables are

> going to be changed and which partitions are going to be formatted.

> That's the one that is identical if you accidently select use whole disk.

> Really useful screen that.. not only cryptic but useless.

>

 

 

 

Come on you have already been beat into the ground

on this one.

caver1