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October 21, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> On Oct 20, 9:13 pm, Frank <f...@osspan.clm> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Oct 20, 8:12 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>> Enough that the product is marketed for Windows - not Linux.

>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>

>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>

>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>

>>>>> The product is marketed to a very small part of Windows users that

>>>>> have to use it for work. Repeat, very small.

>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> More people use it than use linux.

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Sure, Frank.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>

>>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <char...@tames.net> wrote in message

>>>>

>>>>>> news:u7cVy6zEIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>

>>>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe they

>>>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and operate

>>>>>>>> - similar

>>>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>

>>>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>>>> program for

>>>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And, of

>>>>>>>> that 3%,

>>>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>

>>>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I sure

>>>>>>>> wouldn't

>>>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works

>>>>>>>> just fine in

>>>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>

>>>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>

>>>>>>> Why do you assume that AutoCAD is essential for everybody?

>>>>

>>>>>>> What percentage of Windows users use it?

>>>

>> Glad you agree and thanks!

>> Frank

>

> My, my, Frank's reading comprehension impairment is raising its ugly

> head again. Ever hear of sarcasm, Frankie Boy, or were you too busy

> insulting someone when that was taught in your school?

>

> Alias

hehehe...ever heard of telling the truth alias or whatever name your

hiding under?

Frank

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October 21, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:21:50 +0100, "dennis@home"

> <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>

>>So don't use google.

>>They love to track you anyway.

>

> More "wisdom" from Dennis, the world class wannabe computer expert.

>

> News Flash, nearly all major web sites use cookies or other means to

> "track" visitor's surfing habits. Funny you would bring that up and

> not comment on Microsoft spying behind customer's backs with Vista

> phoning home to be sure you were using a legit copy of Windows.

> Originally Microsoft claimed they didn't spy on their customers, then

> they were outed after one of the trade magazines showed how Vista was

> phoning home DAILY, then Microsoft said oops, caught us, and cut it

> back to less often.

>

>>Do Linux a favor and buy a mac, preferably a big mac as it will keep you off

>>the internet.

>

> I'll buy you a steak dinner if you go away. Deal?

>

> I must admit I would miss slapping a dummy like you around. It's too

> damn easy.

>

You're fukkin drunk again aren't you?

Figures.

Frank

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October 21, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> caver1 wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>> NoStop wrote:

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Oct 20, 5:50 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe they

>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and operate -

>>>>>> similar

>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>> program for

>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And, of

>>>>>> that 3%,

>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I sure

>>>>>> wouldn't

>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works just

>>>>>> fine in

>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>> Most people don't need Auto Cad.

>>>>

>>>> And Linux users who need CAD, can look here for some Linux options ...

>>>>

>>>> http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html

>>>>

>>>> Those who want to use what the US military uses for CAD, can get

>>>> BRL-CAD.

>>>> Screenshots here ...

>>>>

>>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=105292

>>>>

>>>> Cheers.

>>>>

>>>

>>> The Auto Cad boys will avoid this post like the plague.

>>>

>>

>> That's because they are not compatible with AutoCad.

>> Autocad isn't even compatible with itself if you go back more than one

>> version. AutoCad is worse than MS.

>> caver1

>

> That bad, eh?

>

Yes. It is a great program, But if your

organization upgrades them all you do business with

must not be more than version behind you or they

must upgrade also.

caver1

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October 21, 200717 yr

Leythos wrote:

> In article <#bQ7m9$EIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, caver@inthemud.com

> says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <9_JSi.103121$1y4.37336@pd7urf2no>, nospam@nospam.com says...

>>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uSu8c%230EIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:

>>>>>>> Enough that the product is marketed for Windows - not Linux.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have never had any need to use AutoCad in my entire life, neither have

>>>>>> millions upon millions windows users. Those who do have probably done so

>>>>>> for years and likely their "Company" bought it together with the latest

>>>>>> fastest hardware / monitors etc.

>>>>> billions of people have never needed linux.

>>>>> (I wonder what that means?)

>>>> It means that you are a Wintard. Whenever you "google" something, you needed

>>>> linux.

>>> Just had to parents ask me how their kids could get AutoCAD because they

>>> are using it at school High School and would like to be able to run it

>>> at home.

>>>

>>> While there are O/S alternatives, they don't teach those in schools,

>>> they teach AutoCAD as a standard.

>>>

>>

>> Yes it is the standard. Expensive, and not even

>> compatible with itself if you go back

>> more than one version.

>> AutoCad is a bad example as it is worse than MS is

>> shutting everyone else out.

>

> You don't appear to have used AutoACD before, or you would just spout

> things you don't know about. Fact is that AutoCAD can open older

> documents, but like many updated program, it may have trouble importing

> documents from 5 rev's ago - 1 rev is never a problem.

>

> AutoCAD is a good example of what's wrong with Linux - the idiots that

> push linux, instead of being realistic, claim that everything can be

> replaced with Linux and the Open Source apps. If you zealots were just

> half-way honest you would admit that many of the OSA are just as bad or

> worse than their MS counterparts - and almost always lacking in features

> that most Win people have gotten use to.

>

I said more than 1 rev. My son and I both use it.

caver1

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October 21, 200717 yr

caver1 wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> caver1 wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>> NoStop wrote:

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Oct 20, 5:50 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe they

>>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and operate -

>>>>>>> similar

>>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>>> program for

>>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And, of

>>>>>>> that 3%,

>>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I sure

>>>>>>> wouldn't

>>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works just

>>>>>>> fine in

>>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>>> Most people don't need Auto Cad.

>>>>>

>>>>> And Linux users who need CAD, can look here for some Linux options ...

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html

>>>>>

>>>>> Those who want to use what the US military uses for CAD, can get

>>>>> BRL-CAD.

>>>>> Screenshots here ...

>>>>>

>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=105292

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The Auto Cad boys will avoid this post like the plague.

>>>>

>>>

>>> That's because they are not compatible with AutoCad.

>>> Autocad isn't even compatible with itself if you go back more than one

>>> version. AutoCad is worse than MS.

>>> caver1

>>

>> That bad, eh?

>>

>

> Yes. It is a great program, But if your organization upgrades them all

> you do business with

> must not be more than version behind you or they must upgrade also.

> caver1

How special. Glad I don't need the thing.

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October 21, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Oct 20, 9:13 pm, Frank <f...@osspan.clm> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Oct 20, 8:12 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>> Enough that the product is marketed for Windows - not Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>

>>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>>

>>>>>> The product is marketed to a very small part of Windows users that

>>>>>> have to use it for work. Repeat, very small.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> More people use it than use linux.

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Sure, Frank.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <char...@tames.net> wrote in message

>>>>>

>>>>>>> news:u7cVy6zEIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe they

>>>>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and operate

>>>>>>>>> - similar

>>>>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>>>>> program for

>>>>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And,

>>>>>>>>> of that 3%,

>>>>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I

>>>>>>>>> sure wouldn't

>>>>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works

>>>>>>>>> just fine in

>>>>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Why do you assume that AutoCAD is essential for everybody?

>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What percentage of Windows users use it?

>>>>

>>> Glad you agree and thanks!

>>> Frank

>>

>> My, my, Frank's reading comprehension impairment is raising its ugly

>> head again. Ever hear of sarcasm, Frankie Boy, or were you too busy

>> insulting someone when that was taught in your school?

>>

>> Alias

>

> hehehe...ever heard of telling the truth alias or whatever name your

> hiding under?

> Frank

Projecting again, Frank or whatever name you're hiding under?

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October 22, 200717 yr

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Oct 20, 9:13 pm, Frank <f...@osspan.clm> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 8:12 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Enough that the product is marketed for Windows - not Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The product is marketed to a very small part of Windows users that

>>>>>>> have to use it for work. Repeat, very small.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>> More people use it than use linux.

>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Sure, Frank.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <char...@tames.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> news:u7cVy6zEIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe

>>>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and

>>>>>>>>>> operate - similar

>>>>>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>>>>>> program for

>>>>>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And,

>>>>>>>>>> of that 3%,

>>>>>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I

>>>>>>>>>> sure wouldn't

>>>>>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works

>>>>>>>>>> just fine in

>>>>>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Why do you assume that AutoCAD is essential for everybody?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> What percentage of Windows users use it?

>>>>>

>>>> Glad you agree and thanks!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> My, my, Frank's reading comprehension impairment is raising its ugly

>>> head again. Ever hear of sarcasm, Frankie Boy, or were you too busy

>>> insulting someone when that was taught in your school?

>>>

>>> Alias

>>

>> hehehe...ever heard of telling the truth alias or whatever name your

>> hiding under?

>> Frank

>

> Projecting again, Frank or whatever name you're hiding under?

>

Changing the subject won't work loser.

Try harder.

Frank

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October 22, 200717 yr

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Oct 20, 9:13 pm, Frank <f...@osspan.clm> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 8:12 pm, "Richard Urban"

>>>>>>>> <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Enough that the product is marketed for Windows - not Linux.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban

>>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The product is marketed to a very small part of Windows users that

>>>>>>>> have to use it for work. Repeat, very small.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> More people use it than use linux.

>>>>>>> Frank

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sure, Frank.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <char...@tames.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> news:u7cVy6zEIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You are so right.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I am still waiting to install AutoCad under Linux. Gee, maybe

>>>>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>>>>> (Linux) could write a "shim" to allow it to install and

>>>>>>>>>>> operate - similar

>>>>>>>>>>> to what Microsoft does.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Autodesk sure isn't going to re-engineer their very expensive

>>>>>>>>>>> program for

>>>>>>>>>>> Linux, when Linux has less that 3% of the desktop total. And,

>>>>>>>>>>> of that 3%,

>>>>>>>>>>> maybe 2% - will need to use AutoCad.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Even if Autodesk came out with a Linux version (unlikely) I

>>>>>>>>>>> sure wouldn't

>>>>>>>>>>> pay an additional $3800 for what I already have (which works

>>>>>>>>>>> just fine in

>>>>>>>>>>> Windows - thank you).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> The fact remains that Linux still can't do it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Why do you assume that AutoCAD is essential for everybody?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> What percentage of Windows users use it?

>>>>>>

>>>>> Glad you agree and thanks!

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> My, my, Frank's reading comprehension impairment is raising its ugly

>>>> head again. Ever hear of sarcasm, Frankie Boy, or were you too busy

>>>> insulting someone when that was taught in your school?

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> hehehe...ever heard of telling the truth alias or whatever name your

>>> hiding under?

>>> Frank

>>

>> Projecting again, Frank or whatever name you're hiding under?

>>

> Changing the subject won't work loser.

> Try harder.

> Frank

Changing the subject won't work, loser.

Try harder.

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