On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:18:05 +0100, "dennis@home"

<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:anmpg394r404osbdqc85r5t3ul0flt0jkm@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:43:13 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

>> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>

>>>Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody else..

>>

>> You know, I was wondering the same thing. What kind of REAL work do

>> you do with your computer Mickey? I mean besides grandstanding in

>> newsgroups?

>>

>> I just got done reading some slop from Dennis, another blowhard, and

>> he revealed he based what he said on playing a freaking computer game.

>> Was I suppose to be impressed? Well sorry, I wasn't.

>>

>

>I don't expect you to be anything other than crazy.

>

>Are you saying games are not a legitimate use of a computer.

 

Weak attempt at building a Strawman. Hell Dennis, you can't even do

that good. I'm simply saying one that uses his playing of a game as an

example of memory management (what you just did) is hardly qualified

to comment on the topic, let alone fake being expert on the topic

which you implied. You play games on your computer, wow, I'm

impressed, so do the kids down the street. So ok, we established

you're not an expert. So maybe you should put a disclaimer in your

posts and remind people you get off just shooting off your mouth

pretending.

>You were the one that said you were a heavy user and didn't need much RAM,

>you obviously aren't a heavy user at all.

 

Based on the crap you say. As I've said countless times one of the

things I do a lot is professional grade video editing. That since you

obviously don't know is one of the most intensive tasks you can ask a

personal computer to do. While that's going on I'm often multitasking

doing several other demanding tasks. Many tasks, like video editing

are more CPU intensive due to the number of calculations involved to

CHANGE pixels around which is a very different task then merely MOVING

pixels around on screen, which is the primary function of most games.

Games are generally very RAM dependent, other tasks are not.

 

What you clearly fail to understand is many things you can do on a

computer are demanding of your CPU, not always RAM. Consider

Photoshop, another professional tool I use all the time. Adding more

RAM only increases the number of files or the size of files that can

be open at once. Beyond a certain point adding RAM does nothing

relative to how fast any particular task runs or takes to complete.

Yea - right !

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:feijag$pgu$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>> Top posting corrected. See below.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>>>>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>>>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>

>>>>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>>>>

>>>>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for

>>>>> gaming.

>>>>>

>>>>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Alias

>>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>>>

>>>

>>> > Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>> else..

>>>

>>> I run two businesses and make a lot of money doing it. Is that real

>>> enough for you? I use Evolution for email/contacts/calendar, fax,

>>> ABIWord, Open Office Spreadsheet, Open Office DataBase and Firefox.

>>> While I'm working, I use Amarok to listen to music.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> > And you feel that it is impossible to do that on a Vista machine? Too

> > funny..

>

> Did I say that? No, I didn't. The reason I use Ubuntu instead of Vista has

> to do with the intrusive DRM, WGA, WPA, no Compiz-Fusion and the fact that

> Vista is very virus and malware prone. In addition, the computer I use for

> Ubuntu isn't high end enough for the bloated POS called Vista. So, I save

> money on both hardware and the operating system in addition to not having

> to put up with the flaws of Vista mentioned above.

>

> The *last* thing I need when I am doing real work is to have to call India

> to explain to them that I didn't steal the license I paid for, thank you

> very much!

>

>

 

See, that almost proves you are telling lies. If you have two businesses

and are making "boatloads" of money, you wouldn't be bitching about saving

money by using Ubuntu. NOPE. Doesn't fly there slick. You are just here

to annoy people and push your Ubuntu and OpenSores software whenever you

can, which by your posts is all day, every day. So it seems that you have

plenty of time to post and are NOT running two successful businesses.

 

Remember, if it doesn't make sense, then it probably isn't true.

 

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Before installing Windows Vista, did you check your computer was

ready?

Are there Windows Vista drivers for all your hardware?

Are all your essential compatible with Windows Vista?

 

What are the specifics of the computer?

Memory?

Video?

Processor?

Etc.

Any of these can cause issues depending on your specific uses.

Do not simply stop at the Microsoft minimum or even recommended since

for some, those are inadequate.

 

Run the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx?wt_svl=10008VHa1&mg_id=10008VHb1

It is an advisor, nothing more.

Use it as another tool to help determine the readiness of your

computer for Windows Vista.

 

Check with the hardware and software manufacturers and see if there

are any updates.

Some have not, but many have provided updates to make their products

Windows Vista compatible.

 

Since you did not give specifics of your issues, it is impossible to

point to specific fixes.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"Moosewatcher" <Moosewatcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:715E3452-F76C-4040-81F9-B7E3B232E397@microsoft.com...

>I have nota bit of know how with fixes and all the other things you

>are

> asking some of the people to do here, I loved windows 98 I loved

> windows xp,

> so as soon as I heard about vista, I told my hubby to get it for my

> desktop,

> for my birthday in Feb. I have had nothing but problems, I have

> tried

> updates, most of them make it worst, I tried not even using my comp

> a few

> days..lol thinking it was resting, my trashbin says now when i want

> to empty

> it that there is 13,000 items in it, once I emptied it anyway, but

> then I did

> a system restore so I could use my comp. to at least get my email,

> and what I

> am most sad about is how excited I was to get this, I was playin

> sims 2 for

> pc with xp no problems, and pogo, and iwin, and a few others, I

> could

> download, screensavers too, and they worked, not now...sorry so long

> but I am

> at a crossroad, next step is callin in a pc man to put back my xp.

> Moose

I don't use kill files but your stupidity is tempting me to throw you in!

 

You realize that you are a troll, don't you?

 

At least if you would say something interesting or at least funny along with

your delusional

misinformation....

I would read your trash... but you offer nothing of value...

 

 

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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> Dennis, he says whatever the bottle tells him. Dump him into a killfile..

> :-)

>

>

> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

> news:911026F6-B535-4195-9244-E9EA5EBDF6B4@microsoft.com...

>>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:anmpg394r404osbdqc85r5t3ul0flt0jkm@4ax.com...

>>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:43:13 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

>>> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>>>else..

>>>

>>> You know, I was wondering the same thing. What kind of REAL work do

>>> you do with your computer Mickey? I mean besides grandstanding in

>>> newsgroups?

>>>

>>> I just got done reading some slop from Dennis, another blowhard, and

>>> he revealed he based what he said on playing a freaking computer game.

>>> Was I suppose to be impressed? Well sorry, I wasn't.

>>>

>>

>> I don't expect you to be anything other than crazy.

>>

>> Are you saying games are not a legitimate use of a computer.

>> You were the one that said you were a heavy user and didn't need much

>> RAM, you obviously aren't a heavy user at all.

>> What do you do that makes you think you are a heavy user besides waste

>> time here?

>

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:33:04 +0300, "Thai Berry \(U.S.\)"

<Thai@Berry.us> wrote:

>I don't use kill files but your stupidity is tempting me to throw you in!

>

>You realize that you are a troll, don't you?

>

>At least if you would say something interesting or at least funny along with

>your delusional

>misinformation....

>I would read your trash... but you offer nothing of value...

>

 

I read what Mike and other MVPs say... purely for the laugh value. See

my comments elsewhere on how MVPs and fanboys are like the Chicago

Cubs. All talk, no action.

 

ROTFLMAO!

Re: Got it wrong.

 

Jerry Atricks wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>

>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>

>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>

>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for gaming.

>>

>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>

> Get Ubuntu, then you WILL be left behind.

>

Left behind what? You ignorant Wintard.

 

Cheers.

 

--

Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

 

Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

 

Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html

Re: Got it wrong.

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Jerry Atricks wrote:

>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>>

>>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>>

>>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>>

>>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for gaming.

>>>

>>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>

>> Get Ubuntu, then you WILL be left behind.

>>

> Left behind what? You ignorant Wintard.

>

> Cheers.

You are another Ubuntu Fanboy Wintard. Now go play with Linux/Ubuntu like

a good little boy.

>

> --

> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

>

> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

>

> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html

>

>

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:43:13 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>

>> Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody else..

>

> You know, I was wondering the same thing. What kind of REAL work do

> you do with your computer Mickey? I mean besides grandstanding in

> newsgroups?

 

 

Well, Mike has a history of trying to solicit business from the MS

newsgroups. I don't think he's done it recently though.

>

> I just got done reading some slop from Dennis, another blowhard, and

> he revealed he based what he said on playing a freaking computer game.

> Was I suppose to be impressed? Well sorry, I wasn't.

>

 

 

--

Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on

free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

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> Using ANY call centre these days will probably connect to an overseas

> outsourced operation, and again many never have to call them.

 

You gotta' love that one...support goes outsourced to India

where they may direct you to outsourced Taiwan for WPA (?),

or outsourced MS help to India firm gets you (via outsourced

outsource..) back to a USA/BR/Ger employee in your local

country. Go to India for job training/work in USA. (really)

> Your 'real work' hardly stretches your OS, and is not the same as other

> Linux users vision of real work. In fact, use of what you suggested as

> real work is scoffed at by 'real' Linux users. Maybe that is why you sit

> in these newsgroups and stay clear of 'real' Linux aficionados.

 

It's sort of like the rumbling of a volcano...

people aren't going to..or using 'nix because they want to...

if they are going there it's because a volcano is rumbling.

(MS direction and bad manners on Windows releases)

 

Newer hardware should come with some software allowing

it to operate/run even on XP or 2k and even 'nix and won't

actually run things faster on Vista than XP or possibly 2k

since speed of loading programs is hard drive dependant..

running programs is program developer and ram dependant

(with cpu called into action for actual crunching) then

graphics are mostly done on video cards gpu (graphical

processing unit)....Vista is just a shell...you can make a

good shell but it won't speed up hardware in any way,

or you can make a bad shell that limits hardware efficiency.

 

The core shell in Vista is pretty good on it's own, the

network stack is improved and both almost as good

as what Microsoft had available almost 7 years ago!

<listen to all the chuckling from EntServer2000sp1 admin's>

Vista (even bus/ult) is like watching a dog chase it's own tail...

 

After a six year dry spell on a released Windows most

people get Vista pre-installed (95% ??), even the 3buck

deal is a better bet...a slim edition of XPsp2 and Office.

Microsoft is sending the efficient systems out and the

whale award to loyal clients and first time users. imho

 

NT Canuck

'Seek and ye shall find'

Alias wrote:

> Mick Murphy wrote:

>

>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>

>

> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>

>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>

>

> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for gaming.

>

> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>

Fukkin liar! Ubuntu is a POS os for children like you.

Vista is the real work horse os.

Stop lying as*hole!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:feijag$pgu$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>

>>> Top posting corrected. See below.

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for

>>>>> gaming.

>>>>>

>>>>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Alias

>>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> > Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>> else..

>>>

>>> I run two businesses and make a lot of money doing it. Is that real

>>> enough for you? I use Evolution for email/contacts/calendar, fax,

>>> ABIWord, Open Office Spreadsheet, Open Office DataBase and Firefox.

>>> While I'm working, I use Amarok to listen to music.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>> To email me, remove shoes

>

>

> > And you feel that it is impossible to do that on a Vista machine? Too

> > funny..

>

> Did I say that? No, I didn't. The reason I use Ubuntu instead of Vista

> has to do with the intrusive DRM, WGA, WPA, no Compiz-Fusion and the

> fact that Vista is very virus and malware prone.

 

What a pack of outright lies!

 

In addition, the

> computer I use for Ubuntu isn't high end enough for the bloated POS

> called Vista.

 

Oh, so now we get to the truth, huh! You can't afford to purchase a

computer that will run Vista so you're stuck with using that piece of

sh*t toy os...right!

 

So, I save money on both hardware and the operating system

> in addition to not having to put up with the flaws of Vista mentioned

> above.

 

IOW...you're fukkin broke and very jealous of those of us who can afford

Vista. We knew that all along and you just keep lying about that fact.

>

> The *last* thing I need when I am doing real work is to have to call

> India to explain to them that I didn't steal the license I paid for,

> thank you very much!

 

You're funny and stupid.

Frank

Re: Yea - right !

 

NoStop wrote:

>

> Certainly it flies for anyone with half a brain. Why give money to

> MickeyMouse that is making insane profit margins on Windoze Fista when that

> money can be better spent elsewhere - like taking the family out for some

> real entertainment? Only a Wintard like you, would think that sending more

> money to MickeyMouse is the way to go even though all the reasons Alias has

> given - DRM, WGA, etc. - all make perfect sense as reasons to avoid Fista.

>

> Cheers.

>

>

 

 

Hey doris, you stupid linturd...it's your turn to kiss RS's arse...he's

waiting for you over at your chapel...open sores...best not to keep him

waiting!

Frank

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:57:49 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>

>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>

>>

>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>

>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>

>>

>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for gaming.

>>

>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>

>Fukkin liar! Ubuntu is a POS os for children like you.

>Vista is the real work horse os.

>Stop lying as*hole!

>Frank

 

If Vista was anything close to what you keep claiming you wouldn't

have to keep screaming everything else is crap. The fact that Vista is

flawed in many areas, has caused untold problems for countless hoards

of users. That Microsoft has already issued several hot fixes,

security updates and is planning on releasing a service park in the

near future confirms Vista is just another broken version of Windows

like all the versions before it were.

 

Facts always trump loud mouth blowhards like you Frank. Maybe you

should learn that.

Thai Berry (U.S.) wrote:

> There is a rule in usenet that says whever mentions the Nazi or Hitler, then

> he automatically loses the debate..

 

Let me tell you what the rules are as*hole...THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

>

> I do not care to win.. sp I will ask you this:

 

Win what? You are STILL fighting a battle you've ALREADY LOST! You

didn't know that did you?

You're really stupid aren't you?

>

>

> If what you say is true , then when hitler was in power and it was then the

> "new thing"

> everyone on earth should had follwed him because then too you would "have to

> go with the times".

>

 

I hope someone close to you slaps the sh*t out of for such an ignorant

statement!

> You do not understand that everything NEW is NOT nessisarily good...

 

Nor is it bad! Get a life you fukkin idiot!

>

>

> You must choose and select your own course in life.. not be a sheep... also

> called sheeple.

 

You're an real loser.

>

> You have a choice....

 

So do you...STFU!

>

> what do you say?

 

I say you're a jackas*. Now get lost.

>

> Bee ee ee eeeeeeeee?

>

Frank

Thai Berry (U.S.) wrote:

>>Consignment #38

>

>

> you mind explaining this?

>

hehehe...it's means you're mentally crippled and totally useless...and

very stupid...like a linux os.

Frank

Thai Berry (U.S.) wrote:

> You are doing the best thing by going back to XP

> like millions of other people are.....

 

Where did you learn to lie like that? Does your mummy know you're become

such a liar?

>

> Microsoft blundered with Vista and is paying the price...

 

Oh? Maybe you haven't seen MS's latest financial reports? You realize

you're constantly making a fool out of yourself by making these obvious

lying claims?

You do know that correct?

>

> they can control a lot, but they cannot control the feelings of disgust

> someone feels

> with a horrible OS like Vista.

 

That my friend, is your biggest lie.

>

> We have the power to chose what is best.

 

And we have and it's not XP or linux...it's Vista. Live with it cause it

ain't gonna change.

 

And there is no doubt XP is the

> Best MS OS.

 

Maybe for a few losers like you it is, but make no mistake, Vista is

better and it's here to stay.

Frank

>

>

>

> "Moosewatcher" <Moosewatcher@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:715E3452-F76C-4040-81F9-B7E3B232E397@microsoft.com...

>

>>I have nota bit of know how with fixes and all the other things you are

>>asking some of the people to do here, I loved windows 98 I loved windows

>>xp,

>>so as soon as I heard about vista, I told my hubby to get it for my

>>desktop,

>>for my birthday in Feb. I have had nothing but problems, I have tried

>>updates, most of them make it worst, I tried not even using my comp a few

>>days..lol thinking it was resting, my trashbin says now when i want to

>>empty

>>it that there is 13,000 items in it, once I emptied it anyway, but then I

>>did

>>a system restore so I could use my comp. to at least get my email, and

>>what I

>>am most sad about is how excited I was to get this, I was playin sims 2

>>for

>>pc with xp no problems, and pogo, and iwin, and a few others, I could

>>download, screensavers too, and they worked, not now...sorry so long but I

>>am

>>at a crossroad, next step is callin in a pc man to put back my xp. Moose

>

>

>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:18:05 +0100, "dennis@home"

> <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>

>>

>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>news:anmpg394r404osbdqc85r5t3ul0flt0jkm@4ax.com...

>>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:43:13 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

>>> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>>>else..

>>>

>>> You know, I was wondering the same thing. What kind of REAL work do

>>> you do with your computer Mickey? I mean besides grandstanding in

>>> newsgroups?

>>>

>>> I just got done reading some slop from Dennis, another blowhard, and

>>> he revealed he based what he said on playing a freaking computer game.

>>> Was I suppose to be impressed? Well sorry, I wasn't.

>>>

>>

>>I don't expect you to be anything other than crazy.

>>

>>Are you saying games are not a legitimate use of a computer.

>

> Weak attempt at building a Strawman. Hell Dennis, you can't even do

> that good. I'm simply saying one that uses his playing of a game as an

> example of memory management (what you just did) is hardly qualified

> to comment on the topic, let alone fake being expert on the topic

> which you implied. You play games on your computer, wow, I'm

> impressed, so do the kids down the street. So ok, we established

> you're not an expert. So maybe you should put a disclaimer in your

> posts and remind people you get off just shooting off your mouth

> pretending.

>

>>You were the one that said you were a heavy user and didn't need much RAM,

>>you obviously aren't a heavy user at all.

>

> Based on the crap you say. As I've said countless times one of the

> things I do a lot is professional grade video editing. That since you

> obviously don't know is one of the most intensive tasks you can ask a

> personal computer to do.

 

Video editing is not very demanding at all.

I have captured and edited DV video quite successfully on a 500MHz Pentium

powered Dell laptop.

It might take a while to render it to a different format but that isn't

editing.

So that was complete cr@p from you there.

 

If you are going to lie about your experience at least try and choose

something I don't know enough about to know you are lying.

> While that's going on I'm often multitasking

> doing several other demanding tasks. Many tasks, like video editing

> are more CPU intensive due to the number of calculations involved to

> CHANGE pixels around which is a very different task then merely MOVING

> pixels around on screen, which is the primary function of most games.

 

Transforms and lighting to you they make your video editing look very

simple.

Just as well some of it isn't done by the CPU.

 

> Games are generally very RAM dependent, other tasks are not.

 

Lets see:

 

Here you are telling a user that he doesn't need any RAM based on your

pathetic experience of editing little tiny 720x576 pixel images (assuming

its PAL and not cr@p NTSC.

If you didn't know that that doesn't require much RAM and is IO limited

then thats your problem.

 

As the OP may have noticed even if you didn't, I suggested he look to see

how much RAM he needed rather than listen to some crazy person like you that

can't see any other persons point of view.

 

As for the game.. well its a perfectly good example of an application that

does need RAM.

 

So now why don't you go and take your pills and sit quietly in the corner.

>

> What you clearly fail to understand is many things you can do on a

> computer are demanding of your CPU, not always RAM. Consider

> Photoshop, another professional tool I use all the time. Adding more

> RAM only increases the number of files or the size of files that can

> be open at once. Beyond a certain point adding RAM does nothing

> relative to how fast any particular task runs or takes to complete.

>

 

Well try running some demanding applications so that you can actually

understand why a user might want more RAM than you.

You might find it quite enlightening if you found out that you are not the

center of the universe and that your experiences are not representative of

everyone else.

So far all you have done is show that you have very little experience with

computers and that you think everyone else is the same.

Anyone that is different you brand a fanboy as they don't agree with you.

Like I said you are crazy.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:37:44 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>Thai Berry (U.S.) wrote:

>

>> There is a rule in usenet that says whever mentions the Nazi or Hitler, then

>> he automatically loses the debate..

>

>Let me tell you what the rules are as*hole...THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

 

If there are no rules in unmoderated newsgroups, and for once you got

something right, why do YOU insist on demanding people STFU if you

don't like what they say and you constantly are telling them to not

post here or mention Linux?

 

Nailed you again boy. Frank, you're always such a dope. I got a pet

rock that's smarter then you are. Way smarter.

>> I do not care to win.. sp I will ask you this:

>

>Win what? You are STILL fighting a battle you've ALREADY LOST! You

>didn't know that did you?

>You're really stupid aren't you?

 

This is SUPPOSE to be a discussion group. You think it is a private

little club where if everyone don't bow down and kiss the ground Bill

Gates and company walks on you have a right to have a hissy fit and

try to get them leave. Yes, you are that stupid. If they handed out

awards to newsgroup morons, you would always win Frank.

>I hope someone close to you slaps the sh*t out of for such an ignorant

>statement!

 

How's your blood pressure Frank? You've told us you're an old man. All

this anger you have sooner or later is going to catch up with you.

>> You have a choice....

>

>So do you...STFU!

 

Thanks Frank. You just proved again why you're an idiot. You just

agreed that everyone has a right to make a choice, then you prove you

don't really mean it by screaming that the other guy should shut the

fu*k up.

 

You're sure some piece of work Frank.

I guess that waiting for proof of what you said will be a waste of my time,

eh? :-)

 

"Well, Mike has a history of trying to solicit business from the MS

newsgroups. I don't think he's done it recently though."

frank is an old man??? Are you sure?

 

Please someone confirm this...

 

 

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:6hcqg3tpjfpnfsjj08an9gp3q0ai9pgp41@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:37:44 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>

>>Thai Berry (U.S.) wrote:

>>

>>> There is a rule in usenet that says whever mentions the Nazi or Hitler,

>>> then

>>> he automatically loses the debate..

>>

>>Let me tell you what the rules are as*hole...THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

>

> If there are no rules in unmoderated newsgroups, and for once you got

> something right, why do YOU insist on demanding people STFU if you

> don't like what they say and you constantly are telling them to not

> post here or mention Linux?

>

> Nailed you again boy. Frank, you're always such a dope. I got a pet

> rock that's smarter then you are. Way smarter.

>

>>> I do not care to win.. sp I will ask you this:

>>

>>Win what? You are STILL fighting a battle you've ALREADY LOST! You

>>didn't know that did you?

>>You're really stupid aren't you?

>

> This is SUPPOSE to be a discussion group. You think it is a private

> little club where if everyone don't bow down and kiss the ground Bill

> Gates and company walks on you have a right to have a hissy fit and

> try to get them leave. Yes, you are that stupid. If they handed out

> awards to newsgroup morons, you would always win Frank.

>

>>I hope someone close to you slaps the sh*t out of for such an ignorant

>>statement!

>

> How's your blood pressure Frank? You've told us you're an old man. All

> this anger you have sooner or later is going to catch up with you.

>

>>> You have a choice....

>>

>>So do you...STFU!

>

> Thanks Frank. You just proved again why you're an idiot. You just

> agreed that everyone has a right to make a choice, then you prove you

> don't really mean it by screaming that the other guy should shut the

> fu*k up.

>

> You're sure some piece of work Frank.

>

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> I guess that waiting for proof of what you said will be a waste of my

> time, eh? :-)

>

> "Well, Mike has a history of trying to solicit business from the MS

> newsgroups. I don't think he's done it recently though."

 

Well, one of the witnesses to it was Alias, and he still posts here.

You were doing it in the XP groups. I'm sure he will speak up if he

feels like it. I don't need proof, your prior actions were all the

proof I ever needed, Mike.

 

--

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http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

 

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on

free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

- Maura Corbett

Re: Yea - right !

 

Jerry Atricks wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fein2f$5dl$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:feijag$pgu$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Top posting corrected. See below.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>>>>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>>>>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for

>>>>>> gaming.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>>>> Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>>> else..

>>>>

>>>> I run two businesses and make a lot of money doing it. Is that real

>>>> enough for you? I use Evolution for email/contacts/calendar, fax,

>>>> ABIWord, Open Office Spreadsheet, Open Office DataBase and Firefox.

>>>> While I'm working, I use Amarok to listen to music.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>> And you feel that it is impossible to do that on a Vista machine? Too

>>> funny..

>> Did I say that? No, I didn't. The reason I use Ubuntu instead of Vista has

>> to do with the intrusive DRM, WGA, WPA, no Compiz-Fusion and the fact that

>> Vista is very virus and malware prone. In addition, the computer I use for

>> Ubuntu isn't high end enough for the bloated POS called Vista. So, I save

>> money on both hardware and the operating system in addition to not having

>> to put up with the flaws of Vista mentioned above.

>>

>> The *last* thing I need when I am doing real work is to have to call India

>> to explain to them that I didn't steal the license I paid for, thank you

>> very much!

>>

>>

>

> See, that almost proves you are telling lies. If you have two businesses

> and are making "boatloads" of money, you wouldn't be bitching about saving

> money by using Ubuntu. NOPE. Doesn't fly there slick.

 

Saving money isn't a smart thing? Since when?

> You are just here

> to annoy people and push your Ubuntu and OpenSores software whenever you

> can, which by your posts is all day, every day. So it seems that you have

> plenty of time to post and are NOT running two successful businesses.

 

I don't post all day, every day. You know nothing of my businesses or

what it takes to run them.

>

> Remember, if it doesn't make sense, then it probably isn't true.

 

Agreed, and you make no sense. Like Frank, all you can do is lie, insult

and bluster.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Jerry Atricks wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:feijag$pgu$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>> Top posting corrected. See below.

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:feifig$d2o$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Mick Murphy wrote:

>>>>> You have to go with the times otherwise you get left behind.

>>>> Which is where Linux comes in, not Hasta la Vista, Baby.

>>>>

>>>>> Would you still like to be working with Windows 3.1?

>>>> I work with Ubuntu and XP. Ubuntu is for real work and XP is for gaming.

>>>>

>>>> Get Ubuntu otherwise you get left behind.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>> Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>> else..

>>

>> I run two businesses and make a lot of money doing it. Is that real enough

>> for you? I use Evolution for email/contacts/calendar, fax, ABIWord, Open

>> Office Spreadsheet, Open Office DataBase and Firefox. While I'm working, I

>> use Amarok to listen to music.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> Another fabrication by Alias - If you run two business and make alot of

> money doing it, how could you have time to post all day, every day, about

> Ubunbu? You are probably working two jobs, one at a fast food

> establishment, and the other, a small bakery.

>

>

>

 

Can't refute? Lie, insult and bluster, the M.O. of the MS fanboys.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

On 10/10/2007 1:12 PM On a whim, dennis@home pounded out on the keyboard

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:k3rpg3h69nh27ulpvlllskh5b9d51g0cos@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:18:05 +0100, "dennis@home"

>> <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>>

>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>>> news:anmpg394r404osbdqc85r5t3ul0flt0jkm@4ax.com...

>>>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:43:13 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

>>>> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Please explain the term 'real work' as it applies to you or anybody

>>>>> else..

>>>> You know, I was wondering the same thing. What kind of REAL work do

>>>> you do with your computer Mickey? I mean besides grandstanding in

>>>> newsgroups?

>>>>

>>>> I just got done reading some slop from Dennis, another blowhard, and

>>>> he revealed he based what he said on playing a freaking computer game.

>>>> Was I suppose to be impressed? Well sorry, I wasn't.

>>>>

>>> I don't expect you to be anything other than crazy.

>>>

>>> Are you saying games are not a legitimate use of a computer.

>> Weak attempt at building a Strawman. Hell Dennis, you can't even do

>> that good. I'm simply saying one that uses his playing of a game as an

>> example of memory management (what you just did) is hardly qualified

>> to comment on the topic, let alone fake being expert on the topic

>> which you implied. You play games on your computer, wow, I'm

>> impressed, so do the kids down the street. So ok, we established

>> you're not an expert. So maybe you should put a disclaimer in your

>> posts and remind people you get off just shooting off your mouth

>> pretending.

>>

>>> You were the one that said you were a heavy user and didn't need much RAM,

>>> you obviously aren't a heavy user at all.

>> Based on the crap you say. As I've said countless times one of the

>> things I do a lot is professional grade video editing. That since you

>> obviously don't know is one of the most intensive tasks you can ask a

>> personal computer to do.

>

> Video editing is not very demanding at all.

> I have captured and edited DV video quite successfully on a 500MHz Pentium

> powered Dell laptop.

> It might take a while to render it to a different format but that isn't

> editing.

> So that was complete cr@p from you there.

>

> If you are going to lie about your experience at least try and choose

> something I don't know enough about to know you are lying.

>

>> While that's going on I'm often multitasking

>> doing several other demanding tasks. Many tasks, like video editing

>> are more CPU intensive due to the number of calculations involved to

>> CHANGE pixels around which is a very different task then merely MOVING

>> pixels around on screen, which is the primary function of most games.

>

> Transforms and lighting to you they make your video editing look very

> simple.

> Just as well some of it isn't done by the CPU.

>

>

>> Games are generally very RAM dependent, other tasks are not.

>

> Lets see:

>

> Here you are telling a user that he doesn't need any RAM based on your

> pathetic experience of editing little tiny 720x576 pixel images (assuming

> its PAL and not cr@p NTSC.

> If you didn't know that that doesn't require much RAM and is IO limited

> then thats your problem.

>

> As the OP may have noticed even if you didn't, I suggested he look to see

> how much RAM he needed rather than listen to some crazy person like you that

> can't see any other persons point of view.

>

> As for the game.. well its a perfectly good example of an application that

> does need RAM.

>

> So now why don't you go and take your pills and sit quietly in the corner.

>

>> What you clearly fail to understand is many things you can do on a

>> computer are demanding of your CPU, not always RAM. Consider

>> Photoshop, another professional tool I use all the time. Adding more

>> RAM only increases the number of files or the size of files that can

>> be open at once. Beyond a certain point adding RAM does nothing

>> relative to how fast any particular task runs or takes to complete.

>>

>

> Well try running some demanding applications so that you can actually

> understand why a user might want more RAM than you.

> You might find it quite enlightening if you found out that you are not the

> center of the universe and that your experiences are not representative of

> everyone else.

> So far all you have done is show that you have very little experience with

> computers and that you think everyone else is the same.

> Anyone that is different you brand a fanboy as they don't agree with you.

> Like I said you are crazy.

>

>

 

I don't know where you get your info. Video editing (and all of its

workings) is one of the most demanding applications out there. I wonder

how you were doing it on a 500MHz machine, and a laptop at that. All

the high end video editors I know of require a throughput that a 4,200

or 5,400 rpm laptop drive can't deliver. Not counting the RAM, CPU and

video card.

 

--

Terry R.

 

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In what way was I soliciting business exactly?

 

I was doing it because Alias said I was? Do I have a website selling

something? No, I do not. Do I answer e-mail queries for financial gain? No I

do not.

 

Still waiting for proof of the allegation..

 

 

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

<none@none.not> wrote in message news:fejrbt$gji$2@aioe.org...

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> I guess that waiting for proof of what you said will be a waste of my

>> time, eh? :-)

>>

>> "Well, Mike has a history of trying to solicit business from the MS

>> newsgroups. I don't think he's done it recently though."

>

> Well, one of the witnesses to it was Alias, and he still posts here. You

> were doing it in the XP groups. I'm sure he will speak up if he feels

> like it. I don't need proof, your prior actions were all the proof I ever

> needed, Mike.

>

> --

> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

>

> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free

> speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the

> creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

> rights in the digital age are not frivolous."

> - Maura Corbett