Been looking into those English classes yet?

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"wheelman" wrote:

> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this

> defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

> jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft and

> have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

> it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

> things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

>

> "seven" wrote:

>

> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> > >

> >

> > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry

> > a lot of weight.

> >

> >

WMP 11 is outdated, dummy.

And BTW, been looking into those English classes yet? Just FYI

How is Vista NOT fun compared to XP? You get all those fancy Aero effects,

second only to Beryl!

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"TheRoton" wrote:

>

>

> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

>

> > If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to

> > clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order

> > for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice.

> >

> > Read the following before posting:

> >

> > How to ask a question:

> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >

> > --

> > Carey Frisch

> > Microsoft MVP

> > Windows Shell/User

> >

> > ---------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > "wheelman" wrote:

> >

> > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this

> > defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

> > jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft and

> > have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

> > it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

> > things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

> >

> > "seven" wrote:

> >

> > > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> > > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> > > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> > > >

> > >

> > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry

> > > a lot of weight.

> > > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical..

> The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment out

> of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our throats,

> I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry

> way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media player

> 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but

> not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont..

> Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience.

> It works alright-It just works lousy--

> Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista

> Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it

> I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want

> to know how bad it really is..( they do)

> Have a nice XP day

> > >

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Bobby McNulty" wrote:

>

> "TheRoton" <TheRoton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:12137C89-1E08-45E1-828E-34FA2CD77DFD@microsoft.com...

> >

> >

> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to

> >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order

> >> for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice.

> >>

> >> Read the following before posting:

> >>

> >> How to ask a question:

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>

> >> --

> >> Carey Frisch

> >> Microsoft MVP

> >> Windows Shell/User

> >>

> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------

> >>

> >> "wheelman" wrote:

> >>

> >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with

> >> this

> >> defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

> >> jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft

> >> and

> >> have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

> >> it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

> >> things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

> >>

> >> "seven" wrote:

> >>

> >> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >> > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

> >> > carry

> >> > a lot of weight.

> >> > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical..

> > The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment

> > out

> > of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our

> > throats,

> > I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry

> > way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media

> > player

> > 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but

> > not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont..

> > Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience.

> > It works alright-It just works lousy--

> > Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista

> > Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it

> > I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want

> > to know how bad it really is..( they do)

> > Have a nice XP day

> >> >

>

> Windows Defender found

> Peergardions

[sP? LOL]

> , malware (trojans and

> virus's

[sP?]

> ) that

> others did not pick up. BTW defender and IE7 and Windows Media Player 11

> also work on XP.

> You're

[sP?]

> statements are utterly false.

>

>

How is that possible? Do you own Bill's website's server(s)? If so, don't

those cost money? Sometimes, even, A LOT of money? Couldn't you just delete

his website and sell the space to someone else? And BTW, how can multiple

servers fit in one trash bin? Maybe <i>one</i> could fit into a garbage CAN,

but a trash bin would definately be too small. So, in conclusion, don't be a

server waster.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> I have placed all your various servers in the trash bin..

> I know who you are.

>

> you can go on throwing trash but you dont even know how many of "me"

> there are that you are talking to without insulting....

>

> Perplexed? Good.

>

>

>

>

I have had a good experience with Vista so far. The blue screens upon

startup...meh. They'll get fixed eventually. Not necessarily MS's fault.

There, I was honest. Hooray.

 

Besides, you're not supposed to tell people that the pre-RTM beta sucks. Of

course it does! It's unfinished!

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> if you think its bad now, you should have seen a few months ago before the

> news was starting to come out about how horrible vista is.

> I was here alone telling everyone that vista has problems and will make many

> people miserable...

> Almost every prediction and observation I have said has been verified again

> and again by users who state the very problems I was talking about

> and a multitude of articles all over the internet are saying things I said

> even before vista was released as RTM. a year ago!.

>

> all they did was make fun of me and call me a troll...

>

> now they are seeing the rest of the world say the same things..

>

> yet they still persistently defend vista...

>

> that is why they are called vista or vista fan boys.. they just don't want

> to admit it.

>

> they will never stop... even if bill gates comes out to say.." Im sorry we

> let down the world by making this horrible product."

>

>

> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:4BDE3206-2D81-4909-9C1E-4C31034FC388@microsoft.com...

> > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with

> > this

> > defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

> > jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft

> > and

> > have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

> > it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

> > things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

> >

> > "seven" wrote:

> >

> >> "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> >> news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >> > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >> >

> >>

> >> Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

> >> carry

> >> a lot of weight.

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista!

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

seven, a god wrote:

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:fb18g39gnqaqqp5npr6ipgclt4vt5nfqpr@4ax.com...

> > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:01:38 -0400, "seven" <seven@linux.sux> wrote:

> >

> >>"Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> >>news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>>

> >>

> >>Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

> >>carry

> >>a lot of weight.

> >

> > Let me guess... you saw the moron Frank make a couple smartass

> > references to somebody living in the basement of their mother's house

> > and you being a total idiot thought Frank was being clever. Damn, you

> > fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called

> > retardation!

>

>

> You mean you are grouping me?

> Then I group you with Aliass, Tiberculosis, wheelboy.

> That's a hell of a inbred clan there.

> Combined, the 4 of you may be able to order a pizza...tho I doubt the

> Crybaby Clan could whip up the cash.

> If you guys get together, maybe a computer tech could show you how to

> install Vista.

> Since it gives you idiots so much trouble.

> You guys couldn't get a DVD to play properly.

> Guess that's the OS's fault too !

>

>

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:11:01 -0700, Sam

<Sam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista!

 

The truth about Vista is it sucks. The more you use it, the more

obvious that becomes. Only dullards, hopeless Microsoft butt kissers

and just plain fools think Vista is wonderful. A prime example of the

type of people that think you can't do better than Vista is Frank, the

newsgroup moron and official buffoon in residence.

 

What does that suggest?

Exactly! I HATE SOOPERYACHTS! I HATE HOUSES! I HATE etc, etc.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

> >

> > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

> > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to

> > upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't

> > really

> > understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

> > problem

> > with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

> > supporters

> > think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about

> > Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend on

> > a

> > whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

> > definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people

> > who

> > are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure

> > about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and

> > therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

> > "Tibery-OS" wrote:

> >

> >> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>

> >> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

> >> service

> >> pack that

> >> will fix problems..

> >>

> >> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

> >>

> >> that's what they say...

> >>

> >> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

> >>

> >> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

> >>

> >> I want to work fast without problems!

> >>

> >> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

> >>

> >> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just

> >> so

> >> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

> >>

> >> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

> >>

> >> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

> >> reality.

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

>

No, you are a mindless ogre that can't accept any opinions but its own. Read

my siggy.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"NoStop" wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

> > "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

> >>>>

> >>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

> >>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

> >>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

> >>>> don't really

> >>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

> >>>> problem

> >>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

> >>>> supporters

> >>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

> >>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to

> >>>> spend on a

> >>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

> >>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

> >>>> people who

> >>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

> >>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

> >>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

> >>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

> >>>>> service

> >>>>> pack that

> >>>>> will fix problems..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> that's what they say...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

> >>>>> just so

> >>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

> >>>>>

> >>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

> >>>>> reality.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

> >>>

> >>

> >> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

> >> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

> >> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

> >> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

> >>

> >> Alias

> >

> >

> > Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

> > have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

> > doesn't mean that the product sucks.

> >

>

> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it. Affordability

> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

>

> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

>

> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

> Vista before I realized what was going on."

>

> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

>

What's a POS? Pig on Steroids?

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Frank" wrote:

> NoStop wrote:

>

> > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >

> >

> >>"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> >>news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>

> >>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>"columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>>news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

> >>>>

> >>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

> >>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

> >>>>>to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

> >>>>>don't really

> >>>>>understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

> >>>>>problem

> >>>>>with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

> >>>>>supporters

> >>>>>think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

> >>>>>about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to

> >>>>>spend on a

> >>>>>whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

> >>>>>definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

> >>>>>people who

> >>>>>are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

> >>>>>displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

> >>>>>upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

> >>>>>"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

> >>>>>>service

> >>>>>>pack that

> >>>>>>will fix problems..

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>that's what they say...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>I want to work fast without problems!

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

> >>>>>>just so

> >>>>>>he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

> >>>>>>reality.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

> >>>But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

> >>>strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

> >>>is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

> >>>

> >>>Alias

> >>

> >>

> >>Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

> >>have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

> >>doesn't mean that the product sucks.

> >>

> >

> >

> > You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it. Affordability

> > doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

> >

> > Cheers.

> >

>

>

> No you suck...at least that's what RS says...how is urbuttoo...getting a

> lot of use lately...it's still a REAL POS...LOL!

> Frank

>

> and cheers you broke loser!

>

I grant you eternal life.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

> > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >

> >> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

> >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

> >>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

> >>>>> don't really

> >>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

> >>>>> problem

> >>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

> >>>>> supporters

> >>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

> >>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

> >>>>> to

> >>>>> spend on a

> >>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which,

> >>>>> I

> >>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

> >>>>> people who

> >>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

> >>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

> >>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

> >>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

> >>>>>> service

> >>>>>> pack that

> >>>>>> will fix problems..

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> that's what they say...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

> >>>>>> just so

> >>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

> >>>>>> reality.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

> >>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

> >>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

> >>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

> >>>

> >>> Alias

> >>

> >>

> >> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

> >> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

> >> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

> >>

> >

> > You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

> > Affordability

> > doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

> >

> > Cheers.

> >

> > --

> > Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

> > http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

> >

> > How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

> > http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

> >

> > AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

> > Vista before I realized what was going on."

> >

> > Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

>

>

> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself if

> you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

>

Saying this also automatically applies the same reasoning to Vista.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"NoStop" wrote:

> forty-nine wrote:

>

> > "AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:eS8FQjDcIHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and

> >> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine?

> >>

> >>

> >> I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There

> >> was a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop

> >> IceBuntu, raise their hands."

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message

> >> news:fp55am$v3s$1@aioe.org...

> >>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >>>> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

> >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

> >>>>>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> >>>>>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >>>>>>>> message

> >>>>>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

> >>>>>>>>> have

> >>>>>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required

> >>>>>>>>> me

> >>>>>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

> >>>>>>>>> don't really

> >>>>>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such

> >>>>>>>>> a

> >>>>>>>>> problem

> >>>>>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

> >>>>>>>>> supporters

> >>>>>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

> >>>>>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of

> >>>>>>>>> money to

> >>>>>>>>> spend on a

> >>>>>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system

> >>>>>>>>> (which, I

> >>>>>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

> >>>>>>>>> people who

> >>>>>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

> >>>>>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those

> >>>>>>>>> expensive

> >>>>>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain

> >>>>>>>>> about.

> >>>>>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making

> >>>>>>>>>> a service

> >>>>>>>>>> pack that

> >>>>>>>>>> will fix problems..

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> that's what they say...

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had

> >>>>>>>>>> ultimate...

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop???

> >>>>>>>>>> lol

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with

> >>>>>>>>>> XP.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to

> >>>>>>>>>> time just so

> >>>>>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

> >>>>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>>>> reality.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make

> >>>>>>> sense. But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

> >>>>>>> Microsoft's

> >>>>>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

> >>>>>>> post

> >>>>>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Alias

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does

> >>>>>> that

> >>>>>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

> >>>>>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

> >>>>> Affordability

> >>>>> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Cheers.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> --

> >>>>> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

> >>>>> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

> >>>>>

> >>>>> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

> >>>>>

> >>>>> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations

> >>>>> of

> >>>>> Vista before I realized what was going on."

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate

> >>>> yourself if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Mike Hall - MVP

> >>>> How to construct a good post..

> >>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> >>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> >>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> >>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

> >>> Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

> >>> It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows

> >>> years of isolation leads to lunacy.

> >>> Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

> >>

> >

> >

> > ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the

> > homeless.

>

> Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it,

> explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU.

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

>

> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

>

> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

> Vista before I realized what was going on."

>

> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

>

Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us.

You can't seem to comprehend that, can you? Read my siggy:

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:11:01 -0700, Sam

> <Sam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> >Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista!

>

> The truth about Vista is it sucks. The more you use it, the more

> obvious that becomes. Only dullards, hopeless Microsoft butt kissers

> and just plain fools think Vista is wonderful. A prime example of the

> type of people that think you can't do better than Vista is Frank, the

> newsgroup moron and official buffoon in residence.

>

> What does that suggest?

>

>

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:02:00 -0700, Sam <sam.korson@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us.

 

It doesn't work well for others. Your point?

>You can't seem to comprehend that, can you?

 

Obviously you can't comprehend your experience isn't shared by many.

Accordingly you come across as a simpleton since you have an overly

simplistic view of the world.

 

I have discovered that those not experiencing problems with Windows

regardless of version limit their use of their computers to simplistic

tasks. Accordingly they rarely experience issues. Those that use their

computers more intensively logically will get exposed to more failing

embedded within Windows in a vain similar to a surgeon that limits his

practice to simple out patient surgery won't encounter life threating

complications as often as surgeons that perform difficult brain or

open heart surgery will.

 

It all boils down to HOW you use Windows. If you're a light weight

user, Vista scrapes by. If you're a serious user, lots of luck. Your,

odds of running into all kinds of issues increases markedly the harder

you push Windows, more so if you frequently multitask. This is one

issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load,

Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often.

I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista sucks.

Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft communites.

 

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:ke5204lbnk2giqg3jlb0mih80r50apds66@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:02:00 -0700, Sam <sam.korson@hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us.

>

> It doesn't work well for others. Your point?

>

>>You can't seem to comprehend that, can you?

>

> Obviously you can't comprehend your experience isn't shared by many.

> Accordingly you come across as a simpleton since you have an overly

> simplistic view of the world.

>

> I have discovered that those not experiencing problems with Windows

> regardless of version limit their use of their computers to simplistic

> tasks. Accordingly they rarely experience issues. Those that use their

> computers more intensively logically will get exposed to more failing

> embedded within Windows in a vain similar to a surgeon that limits his

> practice to simple out patient surgery won't encounter life threating

> complications as often as surgeons that perform difficult brain or

> open heart surgery will.

>

> It all boils down to HOW you use Windows. If you're a light weight

> user, Vista scrapes by. If you're a serious user, lots of luck. Your,

> odds of running into all kinds of issues increases markedly the harder

> you push Windows, more so if you frequently multitask. This is one

> issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load,

> Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often.

>

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:05:11 -0400, "Smithsonian"

<smithsonian@burningplace.net> wrote:

>I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista sucks.

>Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft communites.

>

 

Then you confirm you're just a light weight that's not in the least

concerned about anything beyond you own little world. Pathetic and

you're a top posting fool besides. In other words, a typical Microsoft

butt kisser. This newsgroup is infested with them.

Smithsonian wrote:

> I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista

> sucks. Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft

> communites.

 

Um, "Microsoft communities" don't exist, sorry. You're posting to Usenet

which is a tad bigger than MS' Usenet servers. I know your Windows Fail

newsreader says "Microsoft communities" but that's a misnomer, a LIE.

 

Alias

>

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:ke5204lbnk2giqg3jlb0mih80r50apds66@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:02:00 -0700, Sam <sam.korson@hotmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for

>>> us.

>>

>> It doesn't work well for others. Your point?

>>

>>> You can't seem to comprehend that, can you?

>>

>> Obviously you can't comprehend your experience isn't shared by many.

>> Accordingly you come across as a simpleton since you have an overly

>> simplistic view of the world.

>>

>> I have discovered that those not experiencing problems with Windows

>> regardless of version limit their use of their computers to simplistic

>> tasks. Accordingly they rarely experience issues. Those that use their

>> computers more intensively logically will get exposed to more failing

>> embedded within Windows in a vain similar to a surgeon that limits his

>> practice to simple out patient surgery won't encounter life threating

>> complications as often as surgeons that perform difficult brain or

>> open heart surgery will.

>>

>> It all boils down to HOW you use Windows. If you're a light weight

>> user, Vista scrapes by. If you're a serious user, lots of luck. Your,

>> odds of running into all kinds of issues increases markedly the harder

>> you push Windows, more so if you frequently multitask. This is one

>> issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load,

>> Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often.

>>

>

"Sam" <sam.korson@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:31B8116B-44C2-4102-84D5-A607BD0D0845@microsoft.com...

> Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us.

> You can't seem to comprehend that, can you? Read my siggy:

> --

> "...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

> who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

> self-esteem issues they must have -)"

> -Mark R. Cusumano

 

I know people that had 73 Chevettes that ran for 200K miles, but that didn't

make the other 2 million of them run that far...

and it certainly didn't make it a good vehicle. But some people liked them!

--

A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com

Change Alpha to Numeric to reply

whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so that it

is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear it was Balmer.

Everything is so different and more difficult. I have been using computers

for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess.

Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document, is now

gone. Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it. A new operating

system and new office applications should be better not worse. Look at the

amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge, and look at

the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy. Somebody is missing

the boat big time. I have sent suggestions like this one I just mentioned,

and no one appears to be answering the customers. Microsoft is like the big

Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose market share

hand over fist. It doesn't make sense.

--

Jim Fleming

 

 

"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

>

> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a service

> pack that

> will fix problems..

>

> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

>

> that's what they say...

>

> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

>

> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

>

> I want to work fast without problems!

>

> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

>

> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just so

> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

>

> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

>

> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

> reality.

>

>

>

Jim Fleming wrote:

> whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so that it

> is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear it was Balmer.

 

Then you're clueless.

> Everything is so different and more difficult.

 

Not really. It's different because you're not use to it. Certainly not

more difficult.

 

I have been using computers

> for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess.

 

Mess? What "mess" are you referring to?

> Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document, is now

> gone.

 

Uhhh...excel is a part of Microsoft Office, not Vista.

 

Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it.

 

That's funny...seeing as how I can right click on any document and print

it while in Vista.

 

A new operating

> system and new office applications should be better not worse.

 

If you don't like Vista or Office '07 then why are you using them?

 

Look at the

> amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge,...

 

No one is forced to install or use Vista.

 

and look at

> the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy.

 

Then buy an apple.

 

 

 

Somebody is missing

> the boat big time.

 

You?

 

I have sent suggestions like this one...

 

What suggestion? Sent to whom? All I see is mild bitching.

 

I just mentioned,

> and no one appears to be answering the customers.

 

Do you have a question concerning the operation or use of Vista?

 

Microsoft is like the big

> Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose market share

> hand over fist.

 

Really? You actually believe that?

 

It doesn't make sense.

 

Your post doesn't make any sense.

Frank

Jim Fleming wrote:

> whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so that it

> is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear it was Balmer.

> Everything is so different and more difficult. I have been using computers

> for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess.

> Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document, is now

> gone. Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it. A new operating

> system and new office applications should be better not worse. Look at the

> amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge, and look at

> the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy.

It is obvious that Apple (hardware and software) costs more than Windows

so I can understand that they are happy and that is not to say that the

more something costs the happier they should be. That does not hold

water since Ubuntu and Linux users regardless of the distro are happier

then Windoze users and the cost is well there is none.

> Somebody is missing

> the boat big time.

I think it is LOL! He misses all of the boats. He is about as funny as

a submarine with a screen door.

> I have sent suggestions like this one I just mentioned,

> and no one appears to be answering the customers. Microsoft is like the big

> Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose market share

> hand over fist. It doesn't make sense.

>

Frank wrote:

 

|Jim Fleming wrote:

||whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself

||so that it is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I

||fear it was Balmer.

|

|Then you're clueless.

|

||Everything is so different and more difficult.

|

|Not really. It's different because you're not use to it. Certainly

|not more difficult.

|

| I have been using computers

||for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess.

|

|Mess? What "mess" are you referring to?

|

||Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document,

||is now gone.

|

|Uhhh...excel is a part of Microsoft Office, not Vista.

|

| Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it.

|

|That's funny...seeing as how I can right click on any document and

|print it while in Vista.

|

| A new operating

||system and new office applications should be better not worse.

|

|If you don't like Vista or Office '07 then why are you using them?

|

| Look at the

||amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge,...

|

|No one is forced to install or use Vista.

|

| and look at

||the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy.

|

|Then buy an apple.

|

|

|

| Somebody is missing

||the boat big time.

|

|You?

|

| I have sent suggestions like this one...

|

|What suggestion? Sent to whom? All I see is mild bitching.

|

| I just mentioned,

||and no one appears to be answering the customers.

|

|Do you have a question concerning the operation or use of Vista?

|

| Microsoft is like the big

||Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose

||market share hand over fist.

|

|Really? You actually believe that?

|

| It doesn't make sense.

|

|Your post doesn't make any sense.

|Frank

 

Been away for while. Good to see that Frank's still taking care of the

lame Vista bashers who can't take that things actually works better in

Vista because they have to do a few things a little differently.

 

Keep at it Frank! I was a Linux user, Mac OS X user, OS2 user but hafta

say Vista is right up there, and in some respects miles ahead, of the

best of them! My HP laptop with Vista Ultimate is the best thing I've

had to work with since I discovered I was male :)

 

--

//ceed

On 13 May 2008 02:40:41 GMT, "ceed" <ceed.spameater@dysthe.net> wrote:

>Been away for while. Good to see that Frank's still taking care of the

>lame Vista bashers who can't take that things actually works better in

>Vista because they have to do a few things a little differently.

 

I'm glad that you're glad to see him.

 

I'm kinda new here and I got tired of all his troll-feeding posts, and

his quotes of the trolls' posts.

 

Removing him AND them has cut down considerably on the number of

messages in this group I am presented with every day.

Nonny wrote:

 

|On 13 May 2008 02:40:41 GMT, "ceed" <ceed.spameater@dysthe.net> wrote:

|

||Been away for while. Good to see that Frank's still taking care of

||the lame Vista bashers who can't take that things actually works

||better in Vista because they have to do a few things a little

||differently.

|

|I'm glad that you're glad to see him.

|

|I'm kinda new here and I got tired of all his troll-feeding posts, and

|his quotes of the trolls' posts.

|

|Removing him AND them has cut down considerably on the number of

|messages in this group I am presented with every day.

 

Well, since I'm not here all the time Frank is refreshing. I think I

could take quite a big dose of him. At least he's better than all the

"Vista sucks because it sucks so bad" posts around here. One of the

reasons I am not here much is because my OS works. Took the time to get

it working coz I had to. I depend on a stable OS for work, and right

now Vista is it! :) Saying stuff like this around here seems to give

some people seizures. Wonder why since it's a Vista news group where we

are supposed to help each other to make things work, not lash out when

we're not able to :)

 

Fewer posts to read is a good thing though, I have to give you that.. :)

 

--

//ceed

Jim Fleming wrote:

> whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so

> that it is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear

> it was Balmer.

 

Balmer figured he couldn't please everybody, so he'd just please himself.

 

Fortunately, there are mouse-button re-mapping tools so you can customize

your system to work in whatever perverted way you want.