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And your posts.......

 

"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to

>>> upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't

>>> really

>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

>>> problem

>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

>>> supporters

>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about

>>> Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend

>>> on a

>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people

>>> who

>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure

>>> about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and

>>> therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

>>>>

>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

>>>> service

>>>> pack that

>>>> will fix problems..

>>>>

>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

>>>>

>>>> that's what they say...

>>>>

>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

>>>>

>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

>>>>

>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

>>>>

>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

>>>>

>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just

>>>> so

>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

>>>>

>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

>>>>

>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

>>>> reality.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>

>>

>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

>>

>

> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense. But,

> being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's strong

> arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post is mere

> snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

>

> Alias

 

And your posts are a complete waste of bandwitdh.

 

Now go peddle Ubuntu to the Poor and needy.

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    Vista doesn't really suck....

     

    "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >

    >> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

    >>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>> don't really

    >>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>> problem

    >>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>> supporters

    >>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

    >>>>> to

    >>>>> spend on a

    >>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which,

    >>>>> I

    >>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>> people who

    >>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

    >>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>> service

    >>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>> just so

    >>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

    >>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

    >>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>

    >

    > You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    > Affordability

    > doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >

    > Cheers.

     

    Vista really doesn't suck. You just don't have a clue on how to use it.

    Yes, it is a bit more complicated than DOS, so you just might need an

    instructor to help you out.

    >

    > --

    > Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    > http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >

    > How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    > http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >

    > AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    > Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >

    > Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

     

    Contact AlexB to find out how the "To Catch A Predator" program really

    works!

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    NoStop wrote:

    > Frank wrote:

    >

    >

    >>Alias wrote:

    >>

    >>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >

    >

    >>>Alias

    >>

    >>You're out of your lying linux trolling spamming bigoted mind!

    >>Frank

    >

    >

    > Frank ... it's over there -------------------------> the freeway.

    > Now go and play there and do watch your step.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

     

    Is that where you play? Oh...that's where RS wants you to play? Is he

    sick of you or simply didn't like the dress you wore last night?

    Well, try goodwill for a new dress...that's where a broke loser like you

    has to shop right?

    Frank

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    NoStop wrote:

    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >

    >

    >>"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>

    >>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>

    >>>>"columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>>>news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>

    >>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    >>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

    >>>>>to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>don't really

    >>>>>understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>>problem

    >>>>>with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>supporters

    >>>>>think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to

    >>>>>spend on a

    >>>>>whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

    >>>>>definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>people who

    >>>>>are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

    >>>>>upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>>"Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>>Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>>service

    >>>>>>pack that

    >>>>>>will fix problems..

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>that's what they say...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>>just so

    >>>>>>he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >>>>>>reality.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>>If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>>But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

    >>>strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

    >>>is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>

    >>>Alias

    >>

    >>

    >>Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >>have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>

    >

    >

    > You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it. Affordability

    > doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

     

     

    No you suck...at least that's what RS says...how is urbuttoo...getting a

    lot of use lately...it's still a REAL POS...LOL!

    Frank

     

    and cheers you broke loser!

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    "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >

    >> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>

    >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

    >>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>> don't really

    >>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>> problem

    >>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>> supporters

    >>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

    >>>>> to

    >>>>> spend on a

    >>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which,

    >>>>> I

    >>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>> people who

    >>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

    >>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>> service

    >>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>> just so

    >>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

    >>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

    >>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>

    >>> Alias

    >>

    >>

    >> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>

    >

    > You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    > Affordability

    > doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

    > --

    > Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    > http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >

    > How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    > http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >

    > AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    > Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >

    > Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

     

     

    You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself if

    you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

     

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP

    How to construct a good post..

    http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    Mike's Window - My Blog..

    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

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    there is another picture viewer on vista that does the same thing as the fax

    and picture viewer in XP...

     

    whats the difference???

     

     

     

    "TheRoton" <TheRoton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    >

    >

    > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

    >

    >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to

    >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order

    >> for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice.

    >>

    >> Read the following before posting:

    >>

    >> How to ask a question:

    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

    >>

    >> --

    >> Carey Frisch

    >> Microsoft MVP

    >> Windows Shell/User

    >>

    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------

    >>

    >> "wheelman" wrote:

    >>

    >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with

    >> this

    >> defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

    >> jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft

    >> and

    >> have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

    >> it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

    >> things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

    >>

    >> "seven" wrote:

    >>

    >> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

    >> > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >> > >

    >> >

    >> > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

    >> > carry

    >> > a lot of weight.

    >> > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical..

    > The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment

    > out

    > of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our

    > throats,

    > I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry

    > way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media

    > player

    > 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but

    > not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont..

    > Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience.

    > It works alright-It just works lousy--

    > Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista

    > Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it

    > I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want

    > to know how bad it really is..( they do)

    > Have a nice XP day

    >> >

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    "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    >

    > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to

    > upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't

    > really

    > understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    > problem

    > with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    > supporters

    > think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about

    > Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend on

    > a

    > whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

    > definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people

    > who

    > are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure

    > about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and

    > therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    > "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >

    >> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>

    >> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >> service

    >> pack that

    >> will fix problems..

    >>

    >> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>

    >> that's what they say...

    >>

    >> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>

    >> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>

    >> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>

    >> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>

    >> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just

    >> so

    >> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>

    >> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>

    >> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >> reality.

    >>

    >>

    >>Columbianna,

     

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion. It has worked fine for me

    since the day I started using it. Of course, it had the standard bugs and

    glitches that come with every operating system, including XP. That's to be

    expected.

     

    You stated "I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by

    confirming this reality". Why did you remain silent? You are entitled to

    your opinion and you should have stated it.

     

    C.B.

     

     

    --

    It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    and less fortunate among us.

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    "TheRoton" <TheRoton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    >

    >

    > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

    >

    >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to

    >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order

    >> for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice.

    >>

    >> Read the following before posting:

    >>

    >> How to ask a question:

    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

    >>

    >> --

    >> Carey Frisch

    >> Microsoft MVP

    >> Windows Shell/User

    >>

    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------

    >>

    >> "wheelman" wrote:

    >>

    >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with

    >> this

    >> defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

    >> jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft

    >> and

    >> have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

    >> it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

    >> things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

    >>

    >> "seven" wrote:

    >>

    >> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

    >> > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >> > >

    >> >

    >> > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

    >> > carry

    >> > a lot of weight.

    >> > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical..

    > The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment

    > out

    > of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our

    > throats,

    > I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry

    > way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media

    > player

    > 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but

    > not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont..

    > Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience.

    > It works alright-It just works lousy--

    > Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista

    > Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it

    > I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want

    > to know how bad it really is..( they do)

    > Have a nice XP day

    >> >

     

    Windows Defender found Peergardions, malware (trojans and virus's) that

    others did not pick up. BTW defender and IE7 and Windows Media Player 11

    also work on XP.

    You're statements are utterly false.

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    "TheRoton" <TheRoton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    >

    >

    > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

    >

    >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to

    >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order

    >> for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice.

    >>

    >> Read the following before posting:

    >>

    >> How to ask a question:

    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

    >>

    >> --

    >> Carey Frisch

    >> Microsoft MVP

    >> Windows Shell/User

    >>

    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------

    >>

    >> "wheelman" wrote:

    >>

    >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with

    >> this

    >> defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few

    >> jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft

    >> and

    >> have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in

    >> it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing

    >> things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone

    >>

    >> "seven" wrote:

    >>

    >> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

    >> > news:4703e85d@newsgate.x-privat.org...

    >> > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >> > >

    >> >

    >> > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't

    >> > carry

    >> > a lot of weight.

    >> > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical..

    > The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment

    > out

    > of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our

    > throats,

    > I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry

    > way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media

    > player

    > 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but

    > not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont..

    > Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience.

    > It works alright-It just works lousy--

    > Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista

    > Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it

    > I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want

    > to know how bad it really is..( they do)

    > Have a nice XP day

    >> >

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    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

    news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    > news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>

    >>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

    >>>>>> have

    >>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

    >>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>> don't really

    >>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>>> problem

    >>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>> supporters

    >>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

    >>>>>> to

    >>>>>> spend on a

    >>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which,

    >>>>>> I

    >>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>> people who

    >>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

    >>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>>> service

    >>>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>>> just so

    >>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

    >>>>>>> this

    >>>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

    >>>> Microsoft's

    >>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

    >>>> post

    >>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>

    >>>> Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>

    >>

    >> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >> Affordability

    >> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>

    >> Cheers.

    >>

    >> --

    >> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>

    >> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    >> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >>

    >> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    >> Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >>

    >> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

    >

    >

    > You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself

    > if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

    >

    > --

    > Mike Hall - MVP

    > How to construct a good post..

    > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    > Mike's Window - My Blog..

    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >

    >

    >

    >

     

     

    That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

    Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

    It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows years

    of isolation leads to lunacy.

    Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

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    Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and

    came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine?

     

     

    I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There was

    a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop IceBuntu, raise

    their hands."

     

     

     

    "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:fp55am$v3s$1@aioe.org...

    > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

    > news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    >> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>

    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

    >>>>>> message

    >>>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

    >>>>>>> have

    >>>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required

    >>>>>>> me

    >>>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>>> don't really

    >>>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>>>> problem

    >>>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>>> supporters

    >>>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

    >>>>>>> to

    >>>>>>> spend on a

    >>>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system

    >>>>>>> (which, I

    >>>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>>> people who

    >>>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those

    >>>>>>> expensive

    >>>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>>>> service

    >>>>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>>>> just so

    >>>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

    >>>>>>>> this

    >>>>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>>>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

    >>>>> Microsoft's

    >>>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

    >>>>> post

    >>>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Alias

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >>>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >>> Affordability

    >>> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>>

    >>> Cheers.

    >>>

    >>> --

    >>> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >>> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>>

    >>> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    >>> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >>>

    >>> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    >>> Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >>>

    >>> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

    >>

    >>

    >> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself

    >> if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

    >>

    >> --

    >> Mike Hall - MVP

    >> How to construct a good post..

    >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    >> Mike's Window - My Blog..

    >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >

    >

    > That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

    > Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

    > It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows

    > years of isolation leads to lunacy.

    > Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

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    "AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

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    > Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and

    > came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine?

    >

    >

    > I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There

    > was a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop IceBuntu,

    > raise their hands."

    >

    >

    >

    > "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message

    > news:fp55am$v3s$1@aioe.org...

    >> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

    >> news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

    >>>>>>> message

    >>>>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

    >>>>>>>> have

    >>>>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required

    >>>>>>>> me

    >>>>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>>>> don't really

    >>>>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such

    >>>>>>>> a

    >>>>>>>> problem

    >>>>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>>>> supporters

    >>>>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of

    >>>>>>>> money to

    >>>>>>>> spend on a

    >>>>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system

    >>>>>>>> (which, I

    >>>>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>>>> people who

    >>>>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those

    >>>>>>>> expensive

    >>>>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain

    >>>>>>>> about.

    >>>>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>>>>> service

    >>>>>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had

    >>>>>>>>> ultimate...

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop???

    >>>>>>>>> lol

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>>>>> just so

    >>>>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

    >>>>>>>>> this

    >>>>>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>>>>> But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

    >>>>>> Microsoft's

    >>>>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

    >>>>>> post

    >>>>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does

    >>>>> that

    >>>>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>>>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >>>> Affordability

    >>>> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>>>

    >>>> Cheers.

    >>>>

    >>>> --

    >>>> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >>>> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>>>

    >>>> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >>>>

    >>>> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations

    >>>> of

    >>>> Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >>>>

    >>>> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself

    >>> if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

    >>>

    >>> --

    >>> Mike Hall - MVP

    >>> How to construct a good post..

    >>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    >>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    >>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

    >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>

    >>

    >> That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

    >> Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

    >> It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows

    >> years of isolation leads to lunacy.

    >> Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

    >

     

     

    ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the

    homeless.

    It's a sad linux attempt at a usable OS.... teenagers love it like

    hiphop...but soon outgrow it.

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    >It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    >and less fortunate among us.

     

    I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves

    should not be helped. If they try to do something and need only temporary

    help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft.

    Most of the charities are the places for stealing.

     

    Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for humanity

    outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he built 100,000

    outhouses in Africa. My point is: people who cannot build their own outhouse

    do not deserve one. On top of that, I am sure the actual figure is perhaps

    close to 1,000, the rest of the money is being stolen here and on the way,

    and of course at the construction sites and I bet the longevity of those

    outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best.

     

    I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in defending

    Vista against slander and defamation. While reading the posts I realized

    that I am not really needed. A lot of excellent ideas were expressed all

    positive for the most part. The anti-vista forces are in disarray and in

    retreat. The sooner we see their demise the better.

     

     

    "C.B." <notreallycbcbmullen@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:A5E0425A-C4F9-467F-AB7D-D94C63799AB2@microsoft.com...

    >

    >

    > "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    > news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>

    >> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    >> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to

    >> upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't

    >> really

    >> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >> problem

    >> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >> supporters

    >> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about

    >> Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend

    >> on a

    >> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

    >> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people

    >> who

    >> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure

    >> about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and

    >> therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>

    >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>

    >>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>> service

    >>> pack that

    >>> will fix problems..

    >>>

    >>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>

    >>> that's what they say...

    >>>

    >>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>

    >>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>

    >>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>

    >>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>

    >>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just

    >>> so

    >>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>

    >>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>

    >>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >>> reality.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>Columbianna,

    >

    > You're certainly entitled to your opinion. It has worked fine for me

    > since the day I started using it. Of course, it had the standard bugs and

    > glitches that come with every operating system, including XP. That's to be

    > expected.

    >

    > You stated "I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by

    > confirming this reality". Why did you remain silent? You are entitled to

    > your opinion and you should have stated it.

    >

    > C.B.

    >

    >

    > --

    > It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    > and less fortunate among us.

    >

    >

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    "AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

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    > >It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    > >and less fortunate among us.

    >

    > I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves

    > should not be helped. If they try to do something and need only temporary

    > help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft.

    > Most of the charities are the places for stealing.

    >

    > Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for

    > humanity outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he

    > built 100,000 outhouses in Africa. My point is: people who cannot build

    > their own outhouse do not deserve one. On top of that, I am sure the

    > actual figure is perhaps close to 1,000, the rest of the money is being

    > stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I

    > bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best.

    >

     

    Give a man a fish...he will eat for a day.

    Teach a Man to fish...he will eat for a lifetime.

     

    Most charities benefit the charity and the organizers.

     

    Last time I read, the head of the Red Cross made 0.6 million a

    year......wonder who is being taken care of ?

     

    I. myself, give to individuals....help those who want REAL help....not a

    never-ending bad habit.

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    AlexB wrote:

    >>It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    >>and less fortunate among us.

    >

    > I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves

    > should not be helped.

     

    Sounds like the Republican party line. Help the rich and fsck the rest.

    > If they try to do something and need only temporary

    > help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft.

    > Most of the charities are the places for stealing.

    >

    Proof? Or are you talking about the "Faith Based Charities"? With this I'd

    agree.

    > Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for

    > humanity outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he

    > built 100,000 outhouses in Africa. My point is: people who cannot build

    > their own outhouse do not deserve one. On top of that, I am sure the

    > actual figure is perhaps close to 1,000, the rest of the money is being

    > stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I

    > bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best.

    >

    You went over there and checked that out, did you?

    > I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in

    > defending Vista against slander and defamation. While reading the posts I

    > realized that I am not really needed.

     

    You've got that right! You're not really needed for anything quite frankly.

    You know fsck all about computers and even less of economics/politics.

    > A lot of excellent ideas were

    > expressed all positive for the most part. The anti-vista forces are in

    > disarray and in retreat. The sooner we see their demise the better.

    >

    Retreat? Retreat from what? The likes of YOU? Now, that's funny! ROFL

     

    Cheers.

     

     

    --

    Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

     

    How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

     

    AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    Vista before I realized what was going on."

     

    Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

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    forty-nine wrote:

    > "AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

    > news:eS8FQjDcIHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

    >> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and

    >> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine?

    >>

    >>

    >> I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There

    >> was a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop

    >> IceBuntu, raise their hands."

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message

    >> news:fp55am$v3s$1@aioe.org...

    >>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

    >>> news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>

    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

    >>>>>>>> message

    >>>>>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

    >>>>>>>>> have

    >>>>>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required

    >>>>>>>>> me

    >>>>>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>>>>> don't really

    >>>>>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such

    >>>>>>>>> a

    >>>>>>>>> problem

    >>>>>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>>>>> supporters

    >>>>>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of

    >>>>>>>>> money to

    >>>>>>>>> spend on a

    >>>>>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system

    >>>>>>>>> (which, I

    >>>>>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>>>>> people who

    >>>>>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those

    >>>>>>>>> expensive

    >>>>>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain

    >>>>>>>>> about.

    >>>>>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making

    >>>>>>>>>> a service

    >>>>>>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had

    >>>>>>>>>> ultimate...

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop???

    >>>>>>>>>> lol

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with

    >>>>>>>>>> XP.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to

    >>>>>>>>>> time just so

    >>>>>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

    >>>>>>>>>> this

    >>>>>>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make

    >>>>>>> sense. But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

    >>>>>>> Microsoft's

    >>>>>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

    >>>>>>> post

    >>>>>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does

    >>>>>> that

    >>>>>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>>>>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >>>>> Affordability

    >>>>> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Cheers.

    >>>>>

    >>>>> --

    >>>>> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >>>>> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>>>>

    >>>>> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >>>>>

    >>>>> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations

    >>>>> of

    >>>>> Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >>>>>

    >>>>> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate

    >>>> yourself if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

    >>>>

    >>>> --

    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP

    >>>> How to construct a good post..

    >>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    >>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    >>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

    >>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

    >>> Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

    >>> It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows

    >>> years of isolation leads to lunacy.

    >>> Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

    >>

    >

    >

    > ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the

    > homeless.

     

    Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it,

    explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU.

     

    Cheers.

     

    --

    Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

     

    How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

     

    AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of

    Vista before I realized what was going on."

     

    Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

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    > forty-nine wrote:

    >

    >> "AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message

    >> news:eS8FQjDcIHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

    >>> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and

    >>> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine?

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There

    >>> was a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop

    >>> IceBuntu, raise their hands."

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message

    >>> news:fp55am$v3s$1@aioe.org...

    >>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

    >>>> news:uCipxHCcIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >>>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

    >>>>> news:fp4u660v7a@news1.newsguy.com...

    >>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>>> news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>>>>>> "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

    >>>>>>>>> message

    >>>>>>>>> news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not

    >>>>>>>>>> have

    >>>>>>>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college

    >>>>>>>>>> required

    >>>>>>>>>> me

    >>>>>>>>>> to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What

    >>>>>>>>>> I

    >>>>>>>>>> don't really

    >>>>>>>>>> understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have

    >>>>>>>>>> such

    >>>>>>>>>> a

    >>>>>>>>>> problem

    >>>>>>>>>> with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>>>>>> supporters

    >>>>>>>>>> think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our

    >>>>>>>>>> displeasure

    >>>>>>>>>> about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of

    >>>>>>>>>> money to

    >>>>>>>>>> spend on a

    >>>>>>>>>> whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system

    >>>>>>>>>> (which, I

    >>>>>>>>>> definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>>>>>> people who

    >>>>>>>>>> are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>>>>>> displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those

    >>>>>>>>>> expensive

    >>>>>>>>>> upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain

    >>>>>>>>>> about.

    >>>>>>>>>> "Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making

    >>>>>>>>>>> a service

    >>>>>>>>>>> pack that

    >>>>>>>>>>> will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had

    >>>>>>>>>>> ultimate...

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop???

    >>>>>>>>>>> lol

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with

    >>>>>>>>>>> XP.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to

    >>>>>>>>>>> time just so

    >>>>>>>>>>> he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming

    >>>>>>>>>>> this

    >>>>>>>>>>> reality.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>> So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make

    >>>>>>>> sense. But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of

    >>>>>>>> Microsoft's

    >>>>>>>> strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your

    >>>>>>>> post

    >>>>>>>> is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>> Alias

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>> Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does

    >>>>>>> that

    >>>>>>> have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>>>>>> doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >>>>>> Affordability

    >>>>>> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Cheers.

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> --

    >>>>>> Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):

    >>>>>> http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:

    >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations

    >>>>>> of

    >>>>>> Vista before I realized what was going on."

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>> Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>> You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate

    >>>>> yourself if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released..

    >>>>>

    >>>>> --

    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP

    >>>>> How to construct a good post..

    >>>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

    >>>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

    >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

    >>>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..

    >>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>

    >>>> That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old.

    >>>> Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future.

    >>>> It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows

    >>>> years of isolation leads to lunacy.

    >>>> Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective".

    >>>

    >>

    >>

    >> ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the

    >> homeless.

    >

    > Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it,

    > explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

     

    So Vista is for the stupid ?

    Then the stupid (or the masses) rule !

    Last time I checked, products aren't marketed based on IQ.....its usability!

     

    Its why ubuntu is used by less people than eat monkies !

     

    Monkey meat stinks....and so does ubroketoo

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    NoStop wrote:

    >

    > Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it,

    > explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU.

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

     

    Not really. Linux's distros are for people who answer yes to these two

    questions:

    1) is it free?

    2) do you hate all things MS?

     

    If yes to both...hey...urbuttoo is for you!

    That urbuttoo is a worthless POS toy os is meaningless to those who

    answered "yes".

    Frank

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    Im still waiting for you to tell me what RS is....

     

    you keep using it but if you dont explain what it is, we cant laugh too...

     

     

     

     

    "Frank" <fb@samm.zrr> wrote in message

    news:ueC4S3BcIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

    > NoStop wrote:

    >

    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

    >>>news:%23i3O4OAcIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    >>>

    >>>>Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>>>

    >>>>>"columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    >>>>>news:8EC693A0-3174-4FAF-99C6-CCA024A55710@microsoft.com...

    >>>>>

    >>>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    >>>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me

    >>>>>>to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I

    >>>>>>don't really

    >>>>>>understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    >>>>>>problem

    >>>>>>with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    >>>>>>supporters

    >>>>>>think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure

    >>>>>>about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money

    >>>>>>to

    >>>>>>spend on a

    >>>>>>whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which,

    >>>>>>I

    >>>>>>definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the

    >>>>>>people who

    >>>>>>are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice

    >>>>>>displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive

    >>>>>>upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

    >>>>>>"Tibery-OS" wrote:

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>

    >>>>>>>Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a

    >>>>>>>service

    >>>>>>>pack that

    >>>>>>>will fix problems..

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>that's what they say...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate...

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>I want to work fast without problems!

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time

    >>>>>>>just so

    >>>>>>>he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing....

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it."

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this

    >>>>>>>reality.

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>

    >>>>>So something sucks just because you can't afford it?

    >>>>>

    >>>>

    >>>>If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense.

    >>>>But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's

    >>>>strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post

    >>>>is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else.

    >>>>

    >>>>Alias

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that

    >>>have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product

    >>>doesn't mean that the product sucks.

    >>>

    >>

    >>

    >> You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it.

    >> Affordability

    >> doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all.

    >>

    >> Cheers.

    >>

    >

    >

    > No you suck...at least that's what RS says...how is urbuttoo...getting a

    > lot of use lately...it's still a REAL POS...LOL!

    > Frank

    >

    > and cheers you broke loser!

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    NoStop wrote:

    > AlexB wrote:

    >

    >

    >>>It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

    >>>and less fortunate among us.

    >>

    >>I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves

    >>should not be helped.

    >

    >

    > Sounds like the Republican party line. Help the rich and fsck the rest.

    >

    >

    >>If they try to do something and need only temporary

    >>help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft.

    >>Most of the charities are the places for stealing.

    >>

    >

    > Proof? Or are you talking about the "Faith Based Charities"? With this I'd

    > agree.

    >

    >

    >>Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for

    >>humanity outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he

    >>built 100,000 outhouses in Africa. My point is: people who cannot build

    >>their own outhouse do not deserve one. On top of that, I am sure the

    >>actual figure is perhaps close to 1,000, the rest of the money is being

    >>stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I

    >>bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best.

    >>

    >

    > You went over there and checked that out, did you?

    >

    >

    >>I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in

    >>defending Vista against slander and defamation. While reading the posts I

    >>realized that I am not really needed.

    >

    >

    > You've got that right! You're not really needed for anything quite frankly.

    > You know fsck all about computers and even less of economics/politics.

    >

    >

    >>A lot of excellent ideas were

    >>expressed all positive for the most part. The anti-vista forces are in

    >>disarray and in retreat. The sooner we see their demise the better.

    >>

    >

    > Retreat? Retreat from what? The likes of YOU? Now, that's funny! ROFL

    >

    > Cheers.

    >

    >

    hehehe...you give to RS right?...LOL!

    Frank

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    >

    > People who cannot help themselves should not be helped.

     

    Well, that moronic comment really shows what a total idiot you are. To not

    understand such a basic concept as giving help shows you do not deserve to

    be treated like a decent human being.

     

    > I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in

    > defending Vista against slander and defamation.

     

    LOL!

    > While reading the posts I realized that I am not really needed.

     

    I have no stupid juvenile agenda either way myself. I just see idiots where

    there are idiots and I certainly know more than any person I have seen here

    defending Vista with such blind devotion.

     

    Moronic advocates like you are fighting for the anti-vista side!!

     

    ss.

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    "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:fp5gua$l2$1@aioe.org...

    >

    > So Vista is for the stupid ?

    > Then the stupid (or the masses) rule !

    > Last time I checked, products aren't marketed based on IQ.....its

    > usability!

    >

    > Its why ubuntu is used by less people than eat monkies !

    >

    > Monkey meat stinks....and so does ubroketoo

     

    Heh. You know, I really do not like using Linux myself. It's really not my

    thing.

     

    What really gets to me is total morons like you bleating on about Windows.

    It's so embarrassing. YOu have to be a Frank sock-puppet, hey?

     

    ss.

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    There's going to be a lot of belligerant people on UseNet - that's been a

    sad fact of UseNet for years, especially in "religious" newsgroups such as

    this one. You'll note those people because they're not interested in

    listening so much as having an excuse to rage at people. Please ignore

    them: whether they're for or against anything, they're not really

    representative samples. =)

     

    It's of the most value all around to voice displeasure about specific and

    exact pain points. I recently was advocating a particular change to a

    friend, and was told that it important to know that the community cared

    about that specific aspect. Thankfully I had good examples/advocacy because

    I troll through a variety of forums, most of which are better mannered and

    more well formed (since they're not awful UseNet groups)- but my point is:

    be specific about your pain points.

     

    What should likely happen, as it happened with XP, is that the general and

    specific pain points will be whittled away at over time as Microsoft

    releases Service Pack(s), QFEs, and updates, and as other vendors stabilize

    or release updates. My chief concern is that when people are *not* specific

    about their pain points, that potentially leaves some unknown problem area

    out there.

     

    I've helped tons of people indirectly through the valuable and critical data

    provided here. I can't stress enough that if you can ignore (or killfile)

    the trolls, there's a chance to either work together for positive good or,

    failing sustained interest, to establish specific points of Bad that should

    be looked at.

     

    --

    Speaking for myself only.

    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    --

    "columbianna" <columbianna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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    >

    > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have

    > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to

    > upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't

    > really

    > understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a

    > problem

    > with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista

    > supporters

    > think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about

    > Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend on

    > a

    > whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I

    > definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people

    > who

    > are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure

    > about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and

    > therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about.

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    "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message

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    > "forty-nine" <110001@49.xyz> wrote in message news:fp5gua$l2$1@aioe.org...

    >>

    >> So Vista is for the stupid ?

    >> Then the stupid (or the masses) rule !

    >> Last time I checked, products aren't marketed based on IQ.....its

    >> usability!

    >>

    >> Its why ubuntu is used by less people than eat monkies !

    >>

    >> Monkey meat stinks....and so does ubroketoo

    >

    > Heh. You know, I really do not like using Linux myself. It's really not

    > my thing.

    >

    > What really gets to me is total morons like you bleating on about Windows.

    > It's so embarrassing. YOu have to be a Frank sock-puppet, hey?

    >

    > ss.

    >

     

     

    What a moronic response.

    If you got nothing, than say nothing.

     

    Frank has his opinions, I have mine ... that Vista is quite good is shared

    by millions.

    Nice to see I "get to you".

    yes, yes

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    Been looking into those English classes yet?

    --

    "...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

    who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

    self-esteem issues they must have -)"

    —Mark R. Cusumano

     

     

    "DanS" wrote:

    > "Tom Dacon" wrote in news:evg3xZjBIHA.4584

    > @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

    >

    > > "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

    > > news:Xns99BEED684F03Bthisnthatadelphianet@216.196.97.142...

    > >> "Tom Dacon" wrote in

    > >> news:#KU4yyhBIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

    > >>

    > >>> I guess you people don't recognize sarcasm.

    > >>

    > >> I can recognize sarcasm as well as you can write it.

    > >

    > >

    > > Thank you.

    > >

    > >

    >

    > Your welcome.

    >

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