Been looking into those English classes yet?

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"wheelman" wrote:

> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we are

> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is

> haveing.

>

> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know he

> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these guys

> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have been

> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to work

> and it does something else so something want work.im

>

> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so great

> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people that

> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not wanted...

>

> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:

>

> > "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:D17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-09BDEE8B5BD9@microsoft.com...

> > > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class

> > > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not

> > > care

> > > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away

> > > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of

> > > the

> > > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this

> > > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just

> > > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this

> > > lawsuit started...

> >

> > You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in any of

> > your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is

> > "defective".

> > It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with your old

> > application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.

> > Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not seeing

> > a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have deployed

> > Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.

> >

> > So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed point

> > by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember if you

> > really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so that each

> > point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.

> >

> > So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Mike Brannigan

> >

Hey dummy!

 

Not everyone has a problem with Vista. Frank and I have minimal problems.

Read my siggy.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> Over one and a half years in this darn newsgroup since it existed I have

> explained almost EVERY detail why vista sucks... (there are more but GESH

> its just too much!)

>

> I have repeated most of the main things again and again...

>

> You want to know why vista sucks? Do some research in google groups

> you will find all the info you need there.

>

> Stop whinning.. vista sucks whether you like it or not

>

>

> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message

> news:ujllMtaBIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> > news:470370b6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >> Why clarify man? He says vista sucks and that's all you have to know

> >>

> >> What would it help if he told you one feature sucks or the other?

> >>

> >> Overall it sucks and its not fixable because the stupidness of vista

> >> is too well integrated with that darn OS.

> >>

> >> If MS was willing to haul in vista and rewrite it from scratch THEN we

> >> might be giving you detailed answers. But SP are not rewrites... the

> >> mainly fix some issues,

> >> and add some stuff (not even that will happen in sp1 they wont be adding

> >> anything). MS is stuck with a monster they created and simply cannot go

> >> back now!

> >>

> >> The problem with vista starts with its very idea about what an OS should

> >> be... this lack of understanding is surprising.... MS had the experience

> >> but Vista shows

> >> that the people working on it, either were newbies fresh out of

> >> collages, or the people guiding the teams were new to this and have no

> >> idea what people want.

> >>

> >> Vista is doomed.... forget about it. Its already good as dead...

> >>

> >> so look ahead into a better and brighter future..

> >>

> >

> > He is asking for a class action suit and cannot (as yet) actually justify

> > his claims of defects.

> > Unless he can come back with a detailed list of so called defects he does

> > not have a case.

> > You are not helping either as again you are just using the the "vista

> > sucks and that's all you have to know" acquisition against the product.

> > Again meaningless ,so yes we would all like to see that list of defects

> > provide in detail and not just some this doesn't work like it did in XP or

> > it's "stupid" childish approaches.

> >

> > Microsoft do not have to withdrawn anything to get you to provide

> > "detailed answers" if you don't provide it now how do you expect anyone

> > (including Microsoft) to actually understand what your problems are then

> > triage them for fixing etc.

> > Again it is no good stamping your feet like a petulant child and saying

> > "they have to rewrite it" and yet not provide the detail anyone would

> > expect for such as demand or a class action suit.

> >

> > Please by all means when you provide the detail of defects - also include

> > your better then Microsoft's understanding of "the very idea about what an

> > OS should be"

> > So lets have the detail of defects and then your view of an OS.

> > It really is as simple as if you cannot provide the list of defects then

> > you might as well refrain from any further postulating with "vista is

> > doomed .. dead" etc.

> > --

> >

> > Mike Brannigan

> >

> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> > news:470370b6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >> Why clarify man? He says vista sucks and that's all you have to know

> >>

> >> What would it help if he told you one feature sucks or the other?

> >>

> >> Overall it sucks and its not fixable because the stupidness of vista

> >> is too well integrated with that darn OS.

> >>

> >> If MS was willing to haul in vista and rewrite it from scratch THEN we

> >> might be giving you detailed answers. But SP are not rewrites... the

> >> mainly fix some issues,

> >> and add some stuff (not even that will happen in sp1 they wont be adding

> >> anything). MS is stuck with a monster they created and simply cannot go

> >> back now!

> >>

> >> The problem with vista starts with its very idea about what an OS should

> >> be... this lack of understanding is surprising.... MS had the experience

> >> but Vista shows

> >> that the people working on it, either were newbies fresh out of

> >> collages, or the people guiding the teams were new to this and have no

> >> idea what people want.

> >>

> >> Vista is doomed.... forget about it. Its already good as dead...

> >>

> >> so look ahead into a better and brighter future..

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message

> >> news:7294EDC8-AA1F-4232-A9A5-F9362C15F6C2@microsoft.com...

> >>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:D5A14001-8126-4912-B176-1C846B622A05@microsoft.com...

> >>>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when

> >>>> we are

> >>>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is

> >>>> haveing.

> >>>>

> >>>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know

> >>>> he

> >>>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying

> >>>> these guys

> >>>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have

> >>>> been

> >>>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to

> >>>> work

> >>>> and it does something else so something want work.im

> >>>>

> >>>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so

> >>>> great

> >>>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people

> >>>> that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> So you are still avoiding the issue - if you want a class action suit

> >>> then you need to clearly state what you think is defective (in detail)

> >>> about Windows Vista.

> >>> So fare you have said nothing , so one one is going to take you

> >>> seriously.

> >>> I doubt any lawyer is going to take you up on this is you are not

> >>> capable of even beginning to clearly state the nature of the defects you

> >>> wish to site in the suit.

> >>> So come on provide the details now if you really think you have a case.

> >>>

> >>> And as regards

> >>>>and to the people that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>> You know that is the point of posting a discussion? - to have one !. So

> >>> me asking you to provide detail is not "messing with your post" - but

> >>> asking you to clarify the nature of your issues. If you can't do that

> >>> then you have no case.

> >>> --

> >>> Mike Brannigan

> >>>

> >>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:D5A14001-8126-4912-B176-1C846B622A05@microsoft.com...

> >>>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when

> >>>> we are

> >>>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is

> >>>> haveing.

> >>>>

> >>>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know

> >>>> he

> >>>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying

> >>>> these guys

> >>>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have

> >>>> been

> >>>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to

> >>>> work

> >>>> and it does something else so something want work.im

> >>>>

> >>>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so

> >>>> great

> >>>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people

> >>>> that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>>>

> >>>> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:D17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-09BDEE8B5BD9@microsoft.com...

> >>>>> > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a

> >>>>> > class

> >>>>> > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do

> >>>>> > not

> >>>>> > care

> >>>>> > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to

> >>>>> > give away

> >>>>> > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back

> >>>>> > some of

> >>>>> > the

> >>>>> > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months

> >>>>> > of this

> >>>>> > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are

> >>>>> > just

> >>>>> > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets

> >>>>> > get this

> >>>>> > lawsuit started...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in

> >>>>> any of

> >>>>> your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is

> >>>>> "defective".

> >>>>> It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with

> >>>>> your old

> >>>>> application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.

> >>>>> Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not

> >>>>> seeing

> >>>>> a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have

> >>>>> deployed

> >>>>> Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed

> >>>>> point

> >>>>> by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember

> >>>>> if you

> >>>>> really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so

> >>>>> that each

> >>>>> point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> --

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Mike Brannigan

> >>>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

>

>

>

=?Utf-8?B?U2Ft?= <sam.korson@hotmail.com> wrote in

news:0492800A-45DF-4D54-B397-A0FFEC03B759@microsoft.com:

> Then vista sucks is a heavily opinionated opinion

 

Isn't all opinion opinionated?

There's nothing wrong with a godless life. I use it, too.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Frank" wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>

> > One doesn't have to jump off a 50 story building to know that it isn't a

> > good idea.

>

> Is that the same "logic" that has led you to live a Godless life?

>

> Are you suggesting that one should just blindly buy something

> > without researching it first?

>

> How stupid you sound of late.

> Frank

> >

>

Hey dummy!

 

Again, read my signature for more information.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Tibery-OS" wrote:

> I have posted many times help for users with screenshots from my own

> computers

> that have vista....

>

> But you just see the insults about vista don't you? You ignore the fact that

> I assist people in here also

>

> I have vista yes... BUT I don't chose to use it as my main OS. Thats why Im

> posting from a REAL OS called XP.

> How could I go on insulting vista, and then be using vista on a daily basis?

> That will never happen. I want winning OS, not horrible OS.

>

> I have it to merely see how stupid it is... boot to vista for a laugh, then

> boot back to XP and do some real work. Ok I have it also to remind myself

> why I should not use vista, and to help other poor people who have made the

> mistake to use it as a main OS.

>

> Gesh vista sucks big time!

>

>

>

>

>

> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

> news:uie51taBIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > He isn't using Vista, probably never has..

> >

> >

> > "Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message

> > news:470370b6$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> >> Why clarify man? He says vista sucks and that's all you have to know

> >>

> >> What would it help if he told you one feature sucks or the other?

> >>

> >> Overall it sucks and its not fixable because the stupidness of vista

> >> is too well integrated with that darn OS.

> >>

> >> If MS was willing to haul in vista and rewrite it from scratch THEN we

> >> might be giving you detailed answers. But SP are not rewrites... the

> >> mainly fix some issues,

> >> and add some stuff (not even that will happen in sp1 they wont be adding

> >> anything). MS is stuck with a monster they created and simply cannot go

> >> back now!

> >>

> >> The problem with vista starts with its very idea about what an OS should

> >> be... this lack of understanding is surprising.... MS had the experience

> >> but Vista shows

> >> that the people working on it, either were newbies fresh out of

> >> collages, or the people guiding the teams were new to this and have no

> >> idea what people want.

> >>

> >> Vista is doomed.... forget about it. Its already good as dead...

> >>

> >> so look ahead into a better and brighter future..

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message

> >> news:7294EDC8-AA1F-4232-A9A5-F9362C15F6C2@microsoft.com...

> >>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:D5A14001-8126-4912-B176-1C846B622A05@microsoft.com...

> >>>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when

> >>>> we are

> >>>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is

> >>>> haveing.

> >>>>

> >>>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know

> >>>> he

> >>>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying

> >>>> these guys

> >>>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have

> >>>> been

> >>>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to

> >>>> work

> >>>> and it does something else so something want work.im

> >>>>

> >>>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so

> >>>> great

> >>>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people

> >>>> that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> So you are still avoiding the issue - if you want a class action suit

> >>> then you need to clearly state what you think is defective (in detail)

> >>> about Windows Vista.

> >>> So fare you have said nothing , so one one is going to take you

> >>> seriously.

> >>> I doubt any lawyer is going to take you up on this is you are not

> >>> capable of even beginning to clearly state the nature of the defects you

> >>> wish to site in the suit.

> >>> So come on provide the details now if you really think you have a case.

> >>>

> >>> And as regards

> >>>>and to the people that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>> You know that is the point of posting a discussion? - to have one !. So

> >>> me asking you to provide detail is not "messing with your post" - but

> >>> asking you to clarify the nature of your issues. If you can't do that

> >>> then you have no case.

> >>> --

> >>> Mike Brannigan

> >>>

> >>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:D5A14001-8126-4912-B176-1C846B622A05@microsoft.com...

> >>>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when

> >>>> we are

> >>>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is

> >>>> haveing.

> >>>>

> >>>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know

> >>>> he

> >>>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying

> >>>> these guys

> >>>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have

> >>>> been

> >>>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to

> >>>> work

> >>>> and it does something else so something want work.im

> >>>>

> >>>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so

> >>>> great

> >>>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people

> >>>> that

> >>>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not

> >>>> wanted...

> >>>>

> >>>> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:D17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-09BDEE8B5BD9@microsoft.com...

> >>>>> > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a

> >>>>> > class

> >>>>> > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do

> >>>>> > not

> >>>>> > care

> >>>>> > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to

> >>>>> > give away

> >>>>> > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back

> >>>>> > some of

> >>>>> > the

> >>>>> > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months

> >>>>> > of this

> >>>>> > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are

> >>>>> > just

> >>>>> > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets

> >>>>> > get this

> >>>>> > lawsuit started...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in

> >>>>> any of

> >>>>> your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is

> >>>>> "defective".

> >>>>> It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with

> >>>>> your old

> >>>>> application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.

> >>>>> Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not

> >>>>> seeing

> >>>>> a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have

> >>>>> deployed

> >>>>> Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed

> >>>>> point

> >>>>> by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember

> >>>>> if you

> >>>>> really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so

> >>>>> that each

> >>>>> point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> --

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Mike Brannigan

> >>>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

>

>

>

Aha! You made a mistake!

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Charlie Tame" wrote:

> DOMINATOR wrote:

> > Why don't you just go back to xp instead of bitching? Im not a fan of

> > vista and dont support it but if you are running an new computer then it

> > shouldnt have too many problems, even then im sure you've all read about

> > vista being bad news before you bought it. On top of that, the main

> > problem with vista is it not being compatable with certain programs,

> > thats not the OS' fault, its cause the maker of the programs are too

> > lazy to update their product so it will work with vista.

> >

> > And wheelman, you have absolutly no clue how to use a comma ( , that

> > thing if you don't know), lol. You should use a space after it before

> > the next word, and you should not put a space before using it. Are you

> > in primary school?

> > And like i said, i don't like vista that much either but this is just

> > stupid.

>

>

> Shall we now highlight a few of your own grammatical errors?

>

>

> > Why don't you just go back to xp instead of bitching? Im not a fan of

>

> Missing capitalization + 1 apostrophe

>

>

> > vista and dont support it but if you are running an new computer then it

>

>

> Missing capitalization + 1 apostrophe + extra letter "n"

>

>

>

> > shouldnt have too many problems, even then im sure you've all read about

>

>

> Missing capitalization + 2 apostrophes

>

>

> > vista being bad news before you bought it. On top of that, the main

>

>

> Missing capitalization

>

>

> > problem with vista is it not being compatable with certain programs,

>

>

> Compat I ble

>

>

> > thats not the OS' fault, its cause the maker of the programs are too

>

>

> Missing 1 apostrophe + plural

>

>

> > lazy to update their product so it will work with vista.

>

>

> Missing capitalization +

> 1 apostrophe

There is no apostrophe requirement there.

>

>

> > And wheelman, you have absolutly no clue how to use a comma ( , that

> > thing if you don't know), lol. You should use a space after it before

> > the next word, and you should not put a space before using it. Are you

> > in primary school?

>

>

> Next class up from you ?

>

>

>

> > And like i said, i don't like vista that much either but this is just

> > stupid.

>

> Missing capitalization * 2

>

You are obviously someone who cannot accept any opinions but his own. Read my

signature for more information.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"steve" wrote:

> On Oct 19, 11:06 am, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

> <jones_jupi...@hotnomail.com> wrote:

> > Did you attempt to return it?

> > I certainly would have returned that made me feel that way.

> > Returns are easy, at least in North America.

>

> Seems that way.

>

> MS's software return address:

>

> RE: MICROSOFT PRODUCT RETURN

> 2031 Buroughs Ave.

> San Leandro, CA 94577

> (888) 673-8624

>

> > Microsoft may peddle but no one has to buy it.

>

> True, but how you gonna know if an OS rocks or sucks without buying

> it?

>

> > Windows XP will probably be supported for several more years.

> > And there are also non Microsoft alternatives.

>

> None as good as XP at the moment.

> >

> > But I will keep Windows Vista.

> > Runs well for me on two older computers.

>

> Cool, but Vista still sux.

>

>

"Where you live?"

Hey Steve, why you talk like that?

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"steve" wrote:

> On Dec 2, 10:53 pm, Frank <f...@jr.kmo> wrote:

>

> > Great! You're lucky it didn't take as long as most mail-in refunds

> > do...like 12+ weeks.

>

> 12+ weeks?? Where you live? Turkey? I've had my fair share of refunds.

> Most took a month, some even arrived in 3 weeks.

>

> >

> > So apparently Gates knows Vista blows enough to

> >

> > > offer a refund and keep his word.

> >

> > You're pretty stupid aren't you. These types of refunds have been

> > available from most all computer/software manufacturers for yrs.

>

> Complete B.S. dude. Most software is non-refundable, in fact this is

> the first software that I was ever able to have a full refund. Where

> you live?

>

> >

> > In Gates defense, few software

> >

> > > companies allow refunds and many peddle even more worthless,

> > > antiquated, user-unfriendly software than Vista.

> >

> > There is nothing wrong with Vista.

>

> LMFAO. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands on the class action

> lawsuit list.

> But you're kinda right, Vista is much worse than just "wrong." I'll

> save you the laundry list of problems associated with Vista.

>

> >Usually it's either the hardware some

> > idiot tries to load it on or else they are so confused (re: computer

> > illiterate) and lost, they just give up.

> > I'd recommend you go to toys-r-us and pick up an etch-a-sketch. Of

> > course first check their return policy.

> > You just might need to take advantage of it.

> > Frank

>

> I'd recommend you fire your shrink.

>

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"steve" wrote:

> On Dec 2, 10:53 pm, Frank <f...@jr.kmo> wrote:

>

> > Great! You're lucky it didn't take as long as most mail-in refunds

> > do...like 12+ weeks.

>

> 12+ weeks?? Where you live? Turkey? I've had my fair share of refunds.

> Most took a month, some even arrived in 3 weeks.

>

> >

> > So apparently Gates knows Vista blows enough to

> >

> > > offer a refund and keep his word.

> >

> > You're pretty stupid aren't you. These types of refunds have been

> > available from most all computer/software manufacturers for yrs.

>

> Complete B.S. dude. Most software is non-refundable, in fact this is

> the first software that I was ever able to have a full refund. Where

> you live?

>

> >

> > In Gates defense, few software

> >

> > > companies allow refunds and many peddle even more worthless,

> > > antiquated, user-unfriendly software than Vista.

> >

> > There is nothing wrong with Vista.

>

> LMFAO. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands on the class action

> lawsuit list.

> But you're kinda right, Vista is much worse than just "wrong." I'll

> save you the laundry list of problems associated with Vista.

 

Laundry list of problems, eh? I bet you're "saving us the trouble" only

because you, not unlike SO many others (wheelman, anyone?) are unable to come

up with a list of VALID defects.

>

> >Usually it's either the hardware some

> > idiot tries to load it on or else they are so confused (re: computer

> > illiterate) and lost, they just give up.

> > I'd recommend you go to toys-r-us and pick up an etch-a-sketch. Of

> > course first check their return policy.

> > You just might need to take advantage of it.

> > Frank

>

> I'd recommend you fire your shrink.

>

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"steve" wrote:

> On Dec 3, 9:42 pm, Frank <f...@jr.kmo> wrote:

> > steve wrote:

> > > On Dec 2, 10:53 pm, Frank <f...@jr.kmo> wrote:

> >

> > >>Great! You're lucky it didn't take as long as most mail-in refunds

> > >>do...like 12+ weeks.

> >

> > > 12+ weeks?? Where you live? Turkey? I've had my fair share of refunds.

> > > Most took a month, some even arrived in 3 weeks.

> >

> > Sorry pal, but that just ain't true. 90+days is norm which is why

> > Congress and many States are trying to outlaw the mail-in rebate practice.

> > Oh, I live in So Cal and I'm waiting for 6 mail-ins, all over 45 days old.

>

> Ok, you know when my rebates arrived lol. Rebates should be banned

> years ago

 

That would be impossible, unless you can build a time machine.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >> So apparently Gates knows Vista blows enough to

> >

> > >>>offer a refund and keep his word.

> >

> > >>You're pretty stupid aren't you. These types of refunds have been

> > >>available from most all computer/software manufacturers for yrs.

> >

> > > Complete B.S. dude. Most software is non-refundable, in fact this is

> > > the first software that I was ever able to have a full refund.

> >

> > Then you don't know what you're doing.

>

> Ok wise one, explain to the world how you get software refunds when

> all stores selling software rejects refunds and the software companies

> reject refunds.

>

> > > LMFAO. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands on the class action

> > > lawsuit list.

> >

> > Name them? Ain't happening dude.

>

> It's happening dude. Ask.com or Dogpile.

>

> >

> > > But you're kinda right, Vista is much worse than just "wrong." I'll

> > > save you the laundry list of problems associated with Vista.

> >

> > You're obviously too stupid to use Vista. Take my first advice and get

> > an etch-a-sketch.

>

> Vista sucks. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. There's a laundry list

> of problems. Tell me, did you enjoy Windows 3.0 back in the day too?

> Everything that came before xp sucked .. and so far after. These are

> facts. Anyone with OS experience knows this. Obviously you lack

> experience.

 

Obviously you lack maturity. Read my siggy. It's up top.

>

> > I'd recommend you get one loser.

> > Frank

>

> Give me your shrink's name so I know which one to avoid.

> Steve

>

>

<Marsoupeal> wrote in message

news:Xns9A7FCC8C5342Marsoupeal@207.46.248.16...

> =?Utf-8?B?U2Ft?= <sam.korson@hotmail.com> wrote in

> news:0492800A-45DF-4D54-B397-A0FFEC03B759@microsoft.com:

>

>> Then vista sucks is a heavily opinionated opinion

>

> Isn't all opinion opinionated?

 

With the exception of the retards.

How ironic.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"steve" wrote:

> On Dec 4, 10:04 am, Frank <f...@osspan.clm> wrote:

> > No steve, you lost.

> > Frank- Hide quoted text -

>

> In your words, that's an opinion. Let other's

^^

Remove one apostrophe here.

> with a little more

> intelligence read your responses and posts and see who lost and is

> lost..

>

Sure, but this is HEAVILY opinionated.

--

"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people

who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the

self-esteem issues they must have -)"

—Mark R. Cusumano

 

 

"Marsoupeal" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?U2Ft?= <sam.korson@hotmail.com> wrote in

> news:0492800A-45DF-4D54-B397-A0FFEC03B759@microsoft.com:

>

> > Then vista sucks is a heavily opinionated opinion

>

> Isn't all opinion opinionated?

>