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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:15:51 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Adam...Once again I will ask you to show...with actual numbers...that Vista

>is worse than xp was when it first came out.....problem reports are a

>serious minority amongst Vista users if you compare to the same time that xp

>was out....Go back and research and show us POSITIVE results that prove that

>you are right and we are wrong...otherwise stop with that so called facts

>when you really have not provided proof of any kind.....

 

Never claimed any such thing. Can anybody here be honest? Obviously

you can't. Nothing but the same lame fallacies and strawmen attempts

over and over is some feeble attempt to deny facts. How pitiful.

 

You tell me WHY anybody should accept that it is both normal and

acceptable for any version of any OS to ship buggy. Microsoft released

Vista with known issues unresolved causing untold misery who knows how

many users. Why do you approve of it? Tell us.

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:31:57 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Correction: these are problems that are happening on SOME machines.....

 

Well lookie here, you agree with me. Vista can cause problems on SOME

machines for some users under some conditions. Tell me, was it that

had to admit?

 

Hold on, I need to open a window and look out and see if any pigs are

flying past. A fanboy has admitted Vista isn't perfect. What next,

you'll confirm Microsoft isn't perfect either?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:15:01 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>> More confirmation that the average IQ of posters here is sub 80.

>>

>> You laugh at people that have problems that Microsoft ADMITS are real

>> problems? Typical, but rather sick, but still non the less expected

>> from Vista lovers ie, illiterate computer users.

>

>Micros~1 has never said that problems exist with Vista. There are

>"opportunities," true. Even "challenges." But problems?

>

>Nonsense.

 

Geez, we sunk to parsing words now?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

<Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>

>Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>machine I built myself.

 

So did I and got opposite results. Fancy that. The point being it is a

crap shoot. No doubt many have had no problems or only minor ones they

may have forgotten, but what some are in denial over is that some

people DO really have problems, then the fanboy mob insists on acting

like morons slinging mud at people having problems. That's not my idea

of helping and spits in the face of the true purpose of this

newsgroup.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

> <Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>

>

>>Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>>machine I built myself.

>

>

> So did I and got opposite results.

 

Uhhh...you said that you did an in place upgrade install of Vista

business. That means you put the DVD into your computer and it upgraded

and existing install of XP, taking with it all the problems you had

created in XP.

 

Fancy that.

 

Yeah, do fancy that!

 

The point being it is a

> crap shoot.

 

No. The shot is you shooting yourself in the foot!

 

No doubt many have had no problems or only minor ones they

> may have forgotten, but what some are in denial over is that some

> people DO really have problems, then the fanboy mob insists on acting

> like morons slinging mud at people having problems.

 

Paying attention to the setup/install/customization is the key to a

relatively trouble free install that many of us have and enjoy.

 

That's not my idea

> of helping and spits in the face of the true purpose of this

> newsgroup.

>

 

Could have fooled everyone in this ng!

Frank

calling the kettle black are we?

 

 

"Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:82F9469C-DE51-49E6-A83D-E728C07D67C6@microsoft.com...

> Any time you want to take a trip out west and see what a real computer

> is,,Let me know, otherwise SHUT THE HELL UP YOU FRICKIN AMATEUR !!!.......

> "Tiberius" <Tibery@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:46fe15b9@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> Here is your answer: This is my spoof post about the true sales of vista

>>

>> People who have vista= 1.000.000

>>

>> 20 Percent of that are people who got a "vista ready" pc with XP

>> installed

>> and were promised a copy of vista that they never touched because its a

>> pile

>> a do doo.

>>

>> 18 percent are people who got vista with a new machine but were fed up

>> with

>> it and formatted and installed XP

>>

>> 12 percent are people that installed XP on a second partition with Vista

>> and

>> boot to vista only from time to time. Real work is done on the OS that

>> really works:XP

>>

>> 40 percent are people who pirated vista because they would never really

>> pay

>> for such crap, or live in a 3rd world country and the cost of vista is

>> what

>> they make in a year!

>>

>> 5 percent got free copies of vista due to participation in the beta

>> programs

>> and other offerings so its free and they use it despite its crappyness

>>

>> 4 percent are tech geeks that need to have vista to experiment and learn

>> so

>> they have it on a test machine but they use a real OS like XP Linux or

>> Mac

>>

>> so what is left? There is the 1%

>>

>> Half of those are mentally retards that have way of knowing what they are

>> using.. so they dont count

>>

>> that leaves us with 0.5 %

>>

>> 80% of those are reading the forums and starting to feel that they made a

>> mistake with vista.. they are starting to sweat

>>

>> that leaves us with 0.2%

>>

>> Half of those are Microsoft Employees that need to use it OR ELSE

>>

>> that leaves us with only 0.1% that have vista and actually like it!!!

>>

>> 0.1 % of a million is 1000 people.

>>

>> That 0.1% comes to this forum and spews lies about how stable and great

>> vista is!

>>

>> That 0.1% is actually telling all the rest of the 99.9% that they dont

>> know

>> what they are doing!

>>

>> If you belong to that 0.1% you have the right to your opinion. But of

>> course

>> you are wrong!

>>

>> So put a sock in it already and start listening to the complaints are

>> realize that your dream machine is a worthless piece of monstrous crap!

>>

>>

>>

>> "notachance" <notachance@hell.com> wrote in message

>> news:fdkb4i$9mc$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>>>I seem to have the only perfect copy of Vista Home Premium in this sector

>>>of the Milky Way. It's fast, efficient, safe, and reliable, and is fully

>>>compatible with everything that ran under XP. In four months I have not

>>>crashed even once!!

>>>

>>> That means I'm missing out on all the fun of complaining and sharing the

>>> Gates Hates. What can I do to trigger some blue screens and get on the

>>> anger bandwagon?

>>>

>>> Help me break this Vista installation so I can shift to Ubuntu and give

>>> up half the functionality of my laptop...

>>>

>>> Silvy

>>

>>

>

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:25:35 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

>> <Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>>>machine I built myself.

>>

>>

>> So did I and got opposite results.

>

>Uhhh...you said that you did an in place upgrade install of Vista

>business. That means you put the DVD into your computer and it upgraded

>and existing install of XP, taking with it all the problems you had

>created in XP.

 

What part of building (assembling) the computer don't you understand

Frank? You're mixing apples and oranges. Obviously you don't

understand how an install in place works in Vista since the process is

very different than it was in XP and prior versions of Windows. Of

course as time goes by more of your own words confirm you known next

to nothing about how Vista or Windows or computers in general work.

You're just some smart ass blowing smoke. You don't like me because I

EXPOSED you as nothing but a pompous, obviously always angry always

whining windbag and pathological liar.

>Paying attention to the setup/install/customization is the key to a

>relatively trouble free install that many of us have and enjoy.

 

Oh, are we detecting a change in your opinion? What happened to your

Vista is perfect, if it don't install correctly you're a dummy

routine?

 

Is even the all knowing wannabe computer wiz Frankie now admitting

Vista can have problems during install? You seem to be Frank. I guess

we should take that as a sign of progress.

 

Somebody tell Frank that Microsoft provides for an install in-place

option. Further, if you would pay better attention I said in one of my

first posts way back in February I first started with Home Premium,

then took it back and got the business version ONLY because you can do

an install in place from business, but not from home premium. I

further explained WHY I did an install in place. I have a lot of

software that requires activation some more a pain in the ass than

Windows so I didn't want to waste hours jumping through hoops

reactivating a bunch of software. Plus I have over a million files and

hundreds of applications installed. Two perfectly valid reasons to NOT

do a clean install.

I've had Vista for 5 months and except for a couple of odd little things it

works very well. The most annoying thing is to see the same negative posters

repeating themselves here.

"notachance" <notachance@hell.com> wrote in message

news:fdkb4i$9mc$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>I seem to have the only perfect copy of Vista Home Premium in this sector

>of the Milky Way. It's fast, efficient, safe, and reliable, and is fully

>compatible with everything that ran under XP. In four months I have not

>crashed even once!!

>

> That means I'm missing out on all the fun of complaining and sharing the

> Gates Hates. What can I do to trigger some blue screens and get on the

> anger bandwagon?

>

> Help me break this Vista installation so I can shift to Ubuntu and give up

> half the functionality of my laptop...

>

> Silvy

C'mon Adam...Have you ever known ANY operating system that does not or did

not have bugs ??...For that fact find just about anything that is made by

man that is perfect in every way and could not be made better before leaving

the factory...It is and always has been the American way....That is how

companies stay in business so they can suck people in and release a newer

version every few yrs....It is called job security

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:15:51 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>>Adam...Once again I will ask you to show...with actual numbers...that

>>Vista

>>is worse than xp was when it first came out.....problem reports are a

>>serious minority amongst Vista users if you compare to the same time that

>>xp

>>was out....Go back and research and show us POSITIVE results that prove

>>that

>>you are right and we are wrong...otherwise stop with that so called facts

>>when you really have not provided proof of any kind.....

>

> Never claimed any such thing. Can anybody here be honest? Obviously

> you can't. Nothing but the same lame fallacies and strawmen attempts

> over and over is some feeble attempt to deny facts. How pitiful.

>

> You tell me WHY anybody should accept that it is both normal and

> acceptable for any version of any OS to ship buggy. Microsoft released

> Vista with known issues unresolved causing untold misery who knows how

> many users. Why do you approve of it? Tell us.

>

Adam...nowhere in any of my posts did I say Microsoft was perfect,,On the

contrary they are extremely far from it ..What I get tired of hearing and

have stated in the past that if SOME people are having problems than ALL

people are having them as well and you KNOW that is simply not true....This

country was founded on imperfections and will continue to allow it as long

as companies have the FREEDOM to do so...All I have ever stated is that I

am not having issues and 99.9% of the people out there that are having

problems brought it on themselves...The FEW who are having problems that did

not bring it on themselves have those rare combinations of hardware and

software that was obviously overlooked...You know as well as I you cannot

cover them all or it would take a million frickin yrs to get a new op

system.....

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:8j8uf3dn4qdnippd7pet887lhi4mmae3lj@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:31:57 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>>Correction: these are problems that are happening on SOME machines.....

>

> Well lookie here, you agree with me. Vista can cause problems on SOME

> machines for some users under some conditions. Tell me, was it that

> had to admit?

>

> Hold on, I need to open a window and look out and see if any pigs are

> flying past. A fanboy has admitted Vista isn't perfect. What next,

> you'll confirm Microsoft isn't perfect either?

>

>

"Tiberius" wrote:

> the same thing happens if you add ram or even change a hard drive.. lol

>

Fud alert!!

> vista the hypersensitive.. lol

 

So are you.

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fdlb2q$eqn$1@aioe.org...

> > notachance wrote:

> >> I seem to have the only perfect copy of Vista Home Premium in this sector

> >> of the Milky Way. It's fast, efficient, safe, and reliable, and is fully

> >> compatible with everything that ran under XP. In four months I have not

> >> crashed even once!!

> >>

> >> That means I'm missing out on all the fun of complaining and sharing the

> >> Gates Hates. What can I do to trigger some blue screens and get on the

> >> anger bandwagon?

> >>

> >> Help me break this Vista installation so I can shift to Ubuntu and give

> >> up half the functionality of my laptop...

> >>

> >> Silvy

> >

> > Try changing your video card, NIC and flash your BIOS and see what

> > happens.

> >

> > --

> > Alias

> > To email me, remove shoes

>

>

>

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:50:16 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>C'mon Adam...Have you ever known ANY operating system that does not or did

>not have bugs ??...

 

That's a red herring. The trouble with many in THIS Vista newsgroup is

they love to pretend Vista is free from bugs or they drag out the

threadbare all operating systems have bugs or if they do admit to

there are real Vista problems they always attempt to assign blame to

user error or third party drivers and always excuse Microsoft come

hell or high water. I keep wondering WHY people are that defensive of

Microsoft. Nobody yet has explained it.

 

Look, nobody I've seen post here denies other applications have bugs.

Software has bugs. That's a fact of life. The point is Vista DOES

have bugs too, and way more people experience them than fanboys care

to admit. That's called reality, yet fanboys remain in denial or

foolishly attempt to use the lame excuse they personally haven't had

problems, implying people that do are dumb, ergo therefore there can't

be any problems. That's mind boggling flawed logic.

 

There's no point in even attempting to have any dialog with the fanboy

crowd if they stubbornly cling to the fairy tale Vista doesn't have

problems, yet that seems to be the default stance. When do you think

fanboys will stop pretending?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:59:33 -0700, "Vista User" <VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>

>I never use the search function. I use Copernic a much more useful search

>engine. So its not a problem with me.

that would explain no problems with the search. Never use it.

>I have not seen a "not responding" from my computer.

 

That has got to be a 1st. It's been like that for me since I opened the box.

I also added 1 gig of ram bringing it to 2 gigs of ram. If anything that should

have made it work better.

 

try and open a program, something that you can make it do a 2nd function

[loading data]. Tap the top bar, try and move the window. [not responding]

ghosted window.

 

Sometimes it will recover. Sometimes not, but you never know which way it'll go

until after however much of your patience you're willing to waste on waiting.

 

If you use the CPU meter gadget, what sort of readings do you get ? Mine

fluctuates to 100% way too often.

 

Course I also have a USB TV running all the time. It uses 50% steadily.

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:43:43 -0700, "Kurt Herman" <scapino@nwlink.com> wrote:

>I'm not having any problem with the search function. I told it to search for

>all files, and it does.

>I took ownership of all my drives and files, and set search to search all

>files (not just user files), and guess what, it finds it all. I have yet to

>have it fail to find something.

>

>Kurt

 

You just haven't had it find stuff that doesn't exist yet. Trust me it happens.

Randomly, but it still happens.

And I have had it not find what I'm actually looking at in a explorer window.

I'm not alone with this bug either.

><keepout@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message

>

>I'm just curious who these people are that are NOT having any trouble with

>it ?

>The search engine is a big problem. And I would guess the 'not responding'

>has a lot to do also with it's problem with finding non-existent stuff, deleted

>stuff, etc.. and taking forever to NOT find what you may be sitting there

>looking at.

>

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:09:44 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>Adam...nowhere in any of my posts did I say Microsoft was perfect,,On the

>contrary they are extremely far from it ..

 

I'm not talking you personally, rather in general terms and we both

know that is the mantra the fanboy crowd chants tirelessly. Vista is

wonderful, it works great for me, if you can't get it to work you must

be an idiot, rah, rah, rah.

>What I get tired of hearing and

>have stated in the past that if SOME people are having problems than ALL

>people are having them as well and you KNOW that is simply not true....

 

Nobody has ever said that. I simply want acknowledgement that Vista

has problems. That's the TRUTH. The typical fanboy stance is to

pretend all problems are user generated or due to drivers. That's

simply not true. Vista has plenty of problems of it's own right out of

the box before you add any hardware beyond a graphic card and a single

hard drive or add any third party software. No, not everyone

experiences these problems, the point is SOME do and fanboys are in

denial to that sobering fact. Just look how the loon Frank rants and

raves to that tune day in and day out. Frank is like a wolf howling at

moon.

>All I have ever stated is that I

>am not having issues and 99.9% of the people out there that are having

>problems brought it on themselves..

 

There you go again. Why do fanboys throw out some undocumented,

unproven figure like pretending 99.9% of problems are user generated?

Show me ANY proof to back up such an outrageous claim. Can you? No of

course you can't, but you and other fanboys keep repeating it as if it

was true which is why to me at least you have zero creditability

because you live in a dream world. You seem to think like Frank,

whoever screams the loudest or repeats the same lie the most times

wins the argument. I deal in facts. Got any to share or are you just

going to repeat the same overblown OPINIONS you can't back up with

anything more substantial then you claiming it is so?

>The FEW who are having problems that did

>not bring it on themselves have those rare combinations of hardware and

>software that was obviously overlooked...You know as well as I you cannot

>cover them all or it would take a million frickin yrs to get a new op

>system.....

 

Again, nothing but undocumented opinion. You guys are laughable.

Consider this. If 99.9% of people had no problems (your claim) explain

why Microsoft is even bothering to rush a SP1 out to fix them? Are you

going to try to tell me major corporations make decisions based on

what one in a thousand customers experience? See why I say fanboys

have ZERO creditability? For those too dumb to figure it out on their

own, a 99.9% problem rate works out to 1 in a 1,000 people having a

problem. So fanboys want us to believe that Microsoft issues patches

and service packs to appease 1 in a 1,000. Sure, and another pig just

flew past my window. Oh... there goes another one.

<keepout@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:59:33 -0700, "Vista User" <VistaRules@NoSpam.net>

wrote:

>

>I never use the search function. I use Copernic a much more useful search

>engine. So its not a problem with me.

that would explain no problems with the search. Never use it.

>I have not seen a "not responding" from my computer.

 

That has got to be a 1st. It's been like that for me since I opened the box.

I also added 1 gig of ram bringing it to 2 gigs of ram. If anything that

should

have made it work better.

 

It happened to me once and I have 3G of RAM.

I have no idea what the gimp was doing but after a few minutes it became

responding again.

Nothing else was none responding.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> My guess, and that's all it is, is all the people that say they don't

> have problems mainly use their computer as a door stop or book end.

> People that actually USE their computer for serious work and do things

> beyond the simplistic trivial stuff are the most likely to run into

> problems. The more you push your computer and do more demanding tasks,

> the more problems you'll likely run into.

 

If that were the case you wouldn't have any problems as you don't know how

to use your computer for anything complicated.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

> <Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>

>>

>>Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>>machine I built myself.

>

> So did I and got opposite results. Fancy that.

 

So that shows you did it wrong.

Now why don't you ask for some help from the ones that did it right and fix

it instead of telling them they did it wrong because it works?

Trouble is you are crazy.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:25:35 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

>>> <Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>>>> machine I built myself.

>>>

>>> So did I and got opposite results.

>> Uhhh...you said that you did an in place upgrade install of Vista

>> business. That means you put the DVD into your computer and it upgraded

>> and existing install of XP, taking with it all the problems you had

>> created in XP.

>

> What part of building (assembling) the computer don't you understand

> Frank? You're mixing apples and oranges. Obviously you don't

> understand how an install in place works in Vista since the process is

> very different than it was in XP and prior versions of Windows. Of

> course as time goes by more of your own words confirm you known next

> to nothing about how Vista or Windows or computers in general work.

> You're just some smart ass blowing smoke. You don't like me because I

> EXPOSED you as nothing but a pompous, obviously always angry always

> whining windbag and pathological liar.

>

>> Paying attention to the setup/install/customization is the key to a

>> relatively trouble free install that many of us have and enjoy.

>

> Oh, are we detecting a change in your opinion? What happened to your

> Vista is perfect, if it don't install correctly you're a dummy

> routine?

>

> Is even the all knowing wannabe computer wiz Frankie now admitting

> Vista can have problems during install? You seem to be Frank. I guess

> we should take that as a sign of progress.

>

> Somebody tell Frank that Microsoft provides for an install in-place

> option. Further, if you would pay better attention I said in one of my

> first posts way back in February I first started with Home Premium,

> then took it back and got the business version ONLY because you can do

> an install in place from business, but not from home premium. I

> further explained WHY I did an install in place. I have a lot of

> software that requires activation some more a pain in the ass than

> Windows so I didn't want to waste hours jumping through hoops

> reactivating a bunch of software. Plus I have over a million files and

> hundreds of applications installed. Two perfectly valid reasons to NOT

> do a clean install.

>

 

<You old fart, no one believes you anymore as you sat up in this NG and

said that you were having all kind of problems with Vista you false god.

The bottom line is we doubt that you can tie your own shoelaces.>

 

<All you are about is running around in the NG trying to act like your

some kind of a crazed/demented *clown* with I am a god complications. We

are all tired of you running around tossing your worthless thunderbolts

and passing your thunder-farts you old Thunder-Fart-God.>

WHEN they have serious problems and not before BUT that is not to say they

will....The key here is Can YOU accept that !!..As for your remark about

mind boggling flawed logic you know as well as I more than half the people

that are having problems are people that have upgraded from badly infested

versions of xp and then blame Vista for their problems,,or they have gone

out and bought computers that are so infested with crapware like Dell's Hp's

and such and once again they blame Vista when it IS there fault and not

Vista's....I know the minor glitches you have had (which you have mentioned

many times) are quite possibly caused by your particular circumstance's (not

a bad thing) and also Vista (which because it is American made ) has minor

glitches...but for every day use by the VAST majority that is all they

are,,,MINOR glitches !!!...Objectively studying the VAST majority of

problems you have to look at the root causes....Games not

working...incompatible hardware...incompatible software, but are ANY of

these really Vista's fault ??..Geez I was always led to believe that these

products are other companies products not Microsoft...Microsoft is far from

perfect when you consider what they charge for what they produce but are

they any different from lets say the pharmaceutical companies that produce

drugs that they end up admitting cause adverse side effects in SOME

people........I as I have said not have problems and yes it could be largely

because of my particular combination of equipment...This is the third system

I have built when a new op system comes out and have not had a problem and

yet have seen problems with prebuilt systems each time.....Just my 3 cents

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:50:16 -0700, "Drew" <sheba3169@sbcglobal.net>

> wrote:

>

>>C'mon Adam...Have you ever known ANY operating system that does not or did

>>not have bugs ??...

>

> That's a red herring. The trouble with many in THIS Vista newsgroup is

> they love to pretend Vista is free from bugs or they drag out the

> threadbare all operating systems have bugs or if they do admit to

> there are real Vista problems they always attempt to assign blame to

> user error or third party drivers and always excuse Microsoft come

> hell or high water. I keep wondering WHY people are that defensive of

> Microsoft. Nobody yet has explained it.

>

> Look, nobody I've seen post here denies other applications have bugs.

> Software has bugs. That's a fact of life. The point is Vista DOES

> have bugs too, and way more people experience them than fanboys care

> to admit. That's called reality, yet fanboys remain in denial or

> foolishly attempt to use the lame excuse they personally haven't had

> problems, implying people that do are dumb, ergo therefore there can't

> be any problems. That's mind boggling flawed logic.

>

> There's no point in even attempting to have any dialog with the fanboy

> crowd if they stubbornly cling to the fairy tale Vista doesn't have

> problems, yet that seems to be the default stance. When do you think

> fanboys will stop pretending?

>

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:52:28 -0400, Adam The-Thunder-Fart-God Albright

<HeIsAFalseGod@TheFlaseGod.net> wrote:

><You old fart, no one believes you anymore as you sat up in this NG and

>said that you were having all kind of problems with Vista you false god.

>The bottom line is we doubt that you can tie your own shoelaces.>

 

I never said any such thing you retarded feces throwing monkey.

Pointing out flaws in Vista's design or explaining how things are

'broke' doesn't mean I'm having trouble. Lets say I'm annoyed over how

much time I waste having to baby sit or wait on Vista for it to

recover. I guess that pea sized brain of yours that you keep showing

off doesn't work too well.

>

><All you are about is running around in the NG trying to act like your

>some kind of a crazed/demented *clown* with I am a god complications.

 

Silly boy, you confuse an authoritative poster such as myself

that knows what he's talking about and backs it up with facts with the

typical self-important MVP or fanboy that's here to just stoke his ego

or pretend he's some computer genius.

>We are all tired of you running around tossing your worthless thunderbolts

>and passing your thunder-farts you old Thunder-Fart-God.>

 

The ultimate sign of stupidity. Some moron pretending by using 'we'

that he speaks for others. Got any more tricks before you eat your

daily ration of bananas my little monkey?

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:25:35 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:09:29 -0500, Jrobert

>>><Jrobert.2xpe38@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Im not having any issues at all. Of course I installed it on a new

>>>>machine I built myself.

>>>

>>>

>>>So did I and got opposite results.

>>

>>Uhhh...you said that you did an in place upgrade install of Vista

>>business. That means you put the DVD into your computer and it upgraded

>>and existing install of XP, taking with it all the problems you had

>>created in XP.

>

>

> What part of building (assembling) the computer don't you understand

> Frank? You're mixing apples and oranges. Obviously you don't

> understand how an install in place works in Vista since the process is

> very different than it was in XP and prior versions of Windows. Of

> course as time goes by more of your own words confirm you known next

> to nothing about how Vista or Windows or computers in general work.

> You're just some smart ass blowing smoke. You don't like me because I

> EXPOSED you as nothing but a pompous, obviously always angry always

> whining windbag and pathological liar.

>

>

>>Paying attention to the setup/install/customization is the key to a

>>relatively trouble free install that many of us have and enjoy.

>

>

> Oh, are we detecting a change in your opinion? What happened to your

> Vista is perfect, if it don't install correctly you're a dummy

> routine?

>

> Is even the all knowing wannabe computer wiz Frankie now admitting

> Vista can have problems during install? You seem to be Frank. I guess

> we should take that as a sign of progress.

>

> Somebody tell Frank that Microsoft provides for an install in-place

> option. Further, if you would pay better attention I said in one of my

> first posts way back in February I first started with Home Premium,

> then took it back and got the business version ONLY because you can do

> an install in place from business, but not from home premium. I

> further explained WHY I did an install in place. I have a lot of

> software that requires activation some more a pain in the ass than

> Windows so I didn't want to waste hours jumping through hoops

> reactivating a bunch of software. Plus I have over a million files and

> hundreds of applications installed. Two perfectly valid reasons to NOT

> do a clean install.

>

 

Thanks for proving that you are in fact, the perfect moron!

You have so screwed up your one little install of Vista business that

it's now a down right pathetic fukkin mess!

Only an idiot like you would fail backup all existing data and flatten

your HDD and do a clean install, especially with all those "million" of

files you profess to have. How stupid and lazy are you anyway? Also if

you really do have all of those "millions" of files (I doubt it!) then

you're a perfect candidate for a separate file server such as WHS.

Oh I'm fully aware of the different in place install that Vista does

compared to XP...problem is, it still takes old app drivers with it dumb

ass.

Even if you knew twice as much about computers as you claim to know

you'd still be a fukkin idiot!

Loser!

Frank

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:1vrvf3pq9d2ab8sf1in0si9f4f8i38r6a6@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:52:28 -0400, Adam The-Thunder-Fart-God Albright

> <HeIsAFalseGod@TheFlaseGod.net> wrote:

>

>><You old fart, no one believes you anymore as you sat up in this NG and

>>said that you were having all kind of problems with Vista you false god.

>>The bottom line is we doubt that you can tie your own shoelaces.>

>

> I never said any such thing you retarded feces throwing monkey.

> Pointing out flaws in Vista's design or explaining how things are

> 'broke' doesn't mean I'm having trouble. Lets say I'm annoyed over how

> much time I waste having to baby sit or wait on Vista for it to

> recover. I guess that pea sized brain of yours that you keep showing

> off doesn't work too well.

>>

>><All you are about is running around in the NG trying to act like your

>>some kind of a crazed/demented *clown* with I am a god complications.

>

> Silly boy, you confuse an authoritative poster such as myself

> that knows what he's talking about and backs it up with facts with the

> typical self-important MVP or fanboy that's here to just stoke his ego

> or pretend he's some computer genius.

>

>>We are all tired of you running around tossing your worthless thunderbolts

>>and passing your thunder-farts you old Thunder-Fart-God.>

>

> The ultimate sign of stupidity. Some moron pretending by using 'we'

> that he speaks for others. Got any more tricks before you eat your

> daily ration of bananas my little monkey?

>

 

 

"an authoritative poster such as myself"

ROTFLMAO

Holy crap you gave me a asner on that on. (coffee right out the nose)

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

news:E386D9B2-7692-4C97-882B-CC0BFE887AF8@microsoft.com...

>

> <keepout@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message

> news:7mhvf39f9o3jde5af09o4a9ohestqdbo4e@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:59:33 -0700, "Vista User" <VistaRules@NoSpam.net>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>I never use the search function. I use Copernic a much more useful search

>>engine. So its not a problem with me.

> that would explain no problems with the search. Never use it.

>

>>I have not seen a "not responding" from my computer.

 

This bit should be keepout not me

>>>>>>>>

>

> That has got to be a 1st. It's been like that for me since I opened the

> box.

> I also added 1 gig of ram bringing it to 2 gigs of ram. If anything that

> should

> have made it work better.

>

<<<<<<<<<<

 

> It happened to me once and I have 3G of RAM.

> I have no idea what the gimp was doing but after a few minutes it became

> responding again.

> Nothing else was none responding.

 

Looks like mail has the same bug as OE and doesn't always quote stuff

correctly.

Notice that Adam one of your "fanboys" saying there is another bug. -)

 

Does anyone else have this and have an easy fix?

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:52:28 -0400, Adam The-Thunder-Fart-God Albright

> <HeIsAFalseGod@TheFlaseGod.net> wrote:

>

>> <You old fart, no one believes you anymore as you sat up in this NG and

>> said that you were having all kind of problems with Vista you false god.

>> The bottom line is we doubt that you can tie your own shoelaces.>

>

> I never said any such thing you retarded feces throwing monkey.

> Pointing out flaws in Vista's design or explaining how things are

> 'broke' doesn't mean I'm having trouble. Lets say I'm annoyed over how

> much time I waste having to baby sit or wait on Vista for it to

> recover. I guess that pea sized brain of yours that you keep showing

> off doesn't work too well.

>> <All you are about is running around in the NG trying to act like your

>> some kind of a crazed/demented *clown* with I am a god complications.

 

<What are you some kind of Human Being racist. Have you forgotten where

you descended from you old ape/monkey?>

>

> Silly boy, you confuse an authoritative poster such as myself

> that knows what he's talking about and backs it up with facts with the

> typical self-important MVP or fanboy that's here to just stoke his ego

> or pretend he's some computer genius.

 

<You can't even be authoritative on the commode when you take a dump.

You Pamper wearing old fool, get your stinking behind out of my face

with your *authoritative* BS. You're no authority on anything. You can't

even be an authority own sticking life let alone up in some NG.>

>

>> We are all tired of you running around tossing your worthless thunderbolts

>> and passing your thunder-farts you old Thunder-Fart-God.>

>

> The ultimate sign of stupidity. Some moron pretending by using 'we'

> that he speaks for others. Got any more tricks before you eat your

> daily ration of bananas my little monkey?

>

 

<The same way the you are using "we", when you said to one poster *don't

wind up on the wrong side*. There is the Linux camp you're in love with,

*you and your camp* and then there are the rest of us in the world using

computers.>

 

<God Albright, you take every last bit of your s*it and stick up your

sticking behind. Here is a joke for you, which you are about. You are so

old that if someone was to cut your throat, dust would fly out. You old

long in the tooth *clown*. Maybe, it should be long in the tooth using

dentures.>

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