Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out

and XP in?

Keep reading!

 

http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

 

By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

 

Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has

been a big fat bust in the home market.

That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home

integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed

operating system with Windows XP.

Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum

is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New

England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a

healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who

bought systems at retail.

Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system

builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is

building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as

12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its

ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business,"

Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers

can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're

getting a couple of customers a day at least."

Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user

interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP

can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista."

Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building

about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP.

The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop

systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace

Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on

laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier

downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they

usually do. It's their way or the highway."

Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating

system can power is not necessary for many customers.

Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution

provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping

with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said,

PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just

because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to

go buy it," he said.

Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is

seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent

of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent

XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip

Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said,

PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application

compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat

6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a

profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn

how to deploy it correctly."

LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service

Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it

plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first

quarter of 2008.

I eat vista wrote:

> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out

> and XP in?

> Keep reading!

>

> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>

> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>

> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has

> been a big fat bust in the home market.

> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home

> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed

> operating system with Windows XP.

> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum

> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New

> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a

> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who

> bought systems at retail.

> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system

> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is

> building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as

> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its

> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business,"

> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers

> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're

> getting a couple of customers a day at least."

> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user

> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP

> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista."

> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building

> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP.

> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop

> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace

> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on

> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier

> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they

> usually do. It's their way or the highway."

> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating

> system can power is not necessary for many customers.

> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution

> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping

> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said,

> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just

> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to

> go buy it," he said.

> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is

> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent

> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent

> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip

> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said,

> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application

> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat

> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a

> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn

> how to deploy it correctly."

> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service

> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it

> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first

> quarter of 2008.

>

>

Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok?

Did you even bother to read that stupid article?

40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers.

The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent in

the market.

Come on...get serious, ok?

Frank

Frank wrote:

> I eat vista wrote:

>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista

>> out and XP in?

>> Keep reading!

>>

>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>>

>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>>

>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating

>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market.

>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits

>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the

>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP.

>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H

>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass.,

>> say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning

>> them over new customers who bought systems at retail.

>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine,

>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer

>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as

>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been

>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for

>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed

>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come

>> see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at least."

>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical

>> user interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that

>> used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and

>> learn Vista."

>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is

>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out

>> with Windows XP.

>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off

>> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent

>> trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the

>> option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There

>> should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is

>> force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their way

>> or the highway."

>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the

>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers.

>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H.,

>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority

>> are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction

>> of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the

>> operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a bigger hard

>> drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said.

>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business

>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40

>> percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based,

>> with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been

>> working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack

>> XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft

>> Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications

>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for

>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time

>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly."

>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system.

>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for

>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008.

>>

> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok?

> Did you even bother to read that stupid article?

> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers.

> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent in

> the market.

> Come on...get serious, ok?

> Frank

>

 

Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think and

just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista which

is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail. You could

prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply to

this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't they?

 

Hahahahahahaha!

 

"I eat vista" wrote:

> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out

> and XP in?

> Keep reading!

>

> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>

> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>

> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has

> been a big fat bust in the home market.

> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home

> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed

> operating system with Windows XP.

> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum

> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New

> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a

> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who

> bought systems at retail.

> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system

> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is

> building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as

> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its

> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business,"

> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers

> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're

> getting a couple of customers a day at least."

> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user

> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP

> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista."

> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building

> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP.

> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop

> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace

> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on

> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier

> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they

> usually do. It's their way or the highway."

> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating

> system can power is not necessary for many customers.

> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution

> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping

> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said,

> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just

> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to

> go buy it," he said.

> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is

> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent

> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent

> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip

> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said,

> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application

> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat

> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a

> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn

> how to deploy it correctly."

> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service

> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it

> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first

> quarter of 2008.

>

>

>

Mick the big ones cannot go out and say such things.. MS has them by the

balls..

 

only small "free" companies could speak out.. But this is an indication of

what is happening.. I have seen it everywhere. It is true...

 

people just don't like vista.. sorry to disappoint you.

 

 

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:46D0AF40-FFA0-40B6-8573-F21AE590CF4F@microsoft.com...

> They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't

> they?

>

> Hahahahahahaha!

>

> "I eat vista" wrote:

>

>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista

>> out

>> and XP in?

>> Keep reading!

>>

>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>>

>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>>

>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system

>> has

>> been a big fat bust in the home market.

>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for

>> home

>> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed

>> operating system with Windows XP.

>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

>> momentum

>> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing

>> New

>> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing

>> a

>> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers

>> who

>> bought systems at retail.

>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system

>> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is

>> building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many

>> as

>> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising

>> its

>> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for

>> business,"

>> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere.

>> Customers

>> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us.

>> We're

>> getting a couple of customers a day at least."

>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical

>> user

>> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP

>> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn

>> Vista."

>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building

>> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows

>> XP.

>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off

>> laptop

>> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to

>> replace

>> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP

>> on

>> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier

>> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like

>> they

>> usually do. It's their way or the highway."

>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating

>> system can power is not necessary for many customers.

>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution

>> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping

>> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he

>> said,

>> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just

>> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have

>> to

>> go buy it," he said.

>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is

>> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40

>> percent

>> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60

>> percent

>> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to

>> rip

>> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he

>> said,

>> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

>> application

>> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat

>> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a

>> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and

>> learn

>> how to deploy it correctly."

>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

>> Service

>> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said

>> it

>> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first

>> quarter of 2008.

>>

>>

>>

This is a crap artical its english sucks and it makes up facts. And don't

tell me I'm a Vista lover, because I still don't run it on a single system,

and we haven't deployed it in our company either. I was even on the beta for

two years.. after that went to XP... but still this article is just BS.. you

don't sell 99.9% only XP.. Even companies that give you a choice like Dell,

which have XP or Vista choices do not sell all XP... heck their XP sales are

only about 12% of their sales. and thats a bigger show for the nation then

this other company... and Dell isn't paid off either, they where the first

company to make MS mad by not stoping the sale of XP....

 

 

 

"I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:46ef7088$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out

> and XP in?

> Keep reading!

>

> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>

> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>

> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system

> has been a big fat bust in the home market.

> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for

> home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the

> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP.

> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H

> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say

> they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them

> over new customers who bought systems at retail.

> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system

> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is

> building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many

> as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising

> its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business,"

> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers

> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're

> getting a couple of customers a day at least."

> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical

> user interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used

> XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn

> Vista."

> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building

> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows

> XP.

> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off

> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying

> to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of

> having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have

> been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer

> market like they usually do. It's their way or the highway."

> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating

> system can power is not necessary for many customers.

> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution

> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping

> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he

> said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system.

> "Just because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you

> have to go buy it," he said.

> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is

> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent

> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent

> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to

> rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he

> said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of

> clients.

> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications like

> Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our

> customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure

> it out and learn how to deploy it correctly."

> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft

> has said it plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista

> during the first quarter of 2008.

>

I eat vista wrote:

> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones

> Vista out and XP in?

> Keep reading!

 

Yeah, they said the same thing about fire, the wheel, and personal

vibrators.

 

There's always some Luddite in the woodwork.

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> I eat vista wrote:

>>

>>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

>>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

>>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones

>>> Vista out and XP in?

>>> Keep reading!

>>>

>>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>>>

>>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

>>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

>>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>>>

>>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating

>>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market.

>>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits

>>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the

>>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP.

>>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

>>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H

>>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass.,

>>> say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is

>>> winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail.

>>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine,

>>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer

>>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

>>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as

>>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been

>>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

>>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for

>>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed

>>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they

>>> come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at

>>> least."

>>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista

>>> graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests.

>>> "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to

>>> ramp up and learn Vista."

>>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

>>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is

>>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out

>>> with Windows XP.

>>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off

>>> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent

>>> trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the

>>> option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There

>>> should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is

>>> force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their

>>> way or the highway."

>>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the

>>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers.

>>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H.,

>>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority

>>> are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the

>>> introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen

>>> copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a

>>> bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said.

>>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

>>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business

>>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40

>>> percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based,

>>> with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been

>>> working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack

>>> XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft

>>> Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

>>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

>>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications

>>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for

>>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time

>>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly."

>>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

>>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system.

>>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for

>>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008.

>>>

>> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok?

>> Did you even bother to read that stupid article?

>> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers.

>> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent

>> in the market.

>> Come on...get serious, ok?

>> Frank

>>

>

> Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think and

> just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista which

> is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail.

 

hehehe...you're proving just how fukkin dumb you actually are!

Try again you stupid POS cause I'm not using T-Bird.

You fukkin lying linux loser POS!

Frank

 

You could

> prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply to

> this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster.

 

Hahaha...you just proved yourself wrong you ignorant lying as*hole...lol!

Idiot!

Frank

On 9/18/2007 8:41 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> I eat vista wrote:

>>>

>>>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

>>>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

>>>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones

>>>> Vista out and XP in?

>>>> Keep reading!

>>>>

>>>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>>>>

>>>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

>>>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

>>>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>>>>

>>>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating

>>>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market.

>>>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits

>>>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the

>>>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP.

>>>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

>>>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H

>>>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass.,

>>>> say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is

>>>> winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail.

>>>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine,

>>>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer

>>>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

>>>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as

>>>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been

>>>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

>>>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for

>>>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed

>>>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they

>>>> come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at

>>>> least."

>>>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista

>>>> graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests.

>>>> "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to

>>>> ramp up and learn Vista."

>>>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

>>>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is

>>>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out

>>>> with Windows XP.

>>>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off

>>>> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent

>>>> trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the

>>>> option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There

>>>> should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is

>>>> force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their

>>>> way or the highway."

>>>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the

>>>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers.

>>>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H.,

>>>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority

>>>> are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the

>>>> introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen

>>>> copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a

>>>> bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said.

>>>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

>>>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business

>>>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40

>>>> percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based,

>>>> with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been

>>>> working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack

>>>> XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft

>>>> Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

>>>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

>>>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications

>>>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for

>>>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time

>>>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly."

>>>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

>>>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system.

>>>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for

>>>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008.

>>>>

>>> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok?

>>> Did you even bother to read that stupid article?

>>> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers.

>>> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent

>>> in the market.

>>> Come on...get serious, ok?

>>> Frank

>>>

>> Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think and

>> just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista which

>> is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail.

>

> hehehe...you're proving just how fukkin dumb you actually are!

> Try again you stupid POS cause I'm not using T-Bird.

> You fukkin lying linux loser POS!

> Frank

>

> You could

>> prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply to

>> this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster.

>

> Hahaha...you just proved yourself wrong you ignorant lying as*hole...lol!

> Idiot!

> Frank

>

>

 

Mozilla is the owner of TB, Mozilla suite (version 1.7.13 which is the

one you're using), and Sea Monkey. But again, you're just arguing mice

nuts. Why not just use WM and prove it?

 

He wasn't "lying", it's just that most people don't use such an outdated

mail client dating to April 14, 2006 such as you're using, especially

when touting the latest and greatest of Vista.

 

(dropped cross-post to windowsxp.general which should have been done

long ago)

 

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> I eat vista wrote:

>>>

>>>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining?

>>>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"?

>>>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones

>>>> Vista out and XP in?

>>>> Keep reading!

>>>>

>>>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed

>>>>

>>>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel

>>>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007

>>>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN

>>>>

>>>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating

>>>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market.

>>>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits

>>>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the

>>>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP.

>>>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its

>>>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H

>>>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy,

>>>> Mass., say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that

>>>> is winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail.

>>>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine,

>>>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer

>>>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems.

>>>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as

>>>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been

>>>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista.

>>>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for

>>>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed

>>>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they

>>>> come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day

>>>> at least."

>>>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista

>>>> graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests.

>>>> "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time

>>>> to ramp up and learn Vista."

>>>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech

>>>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is

>>>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out

>>>> with Windows XP.

>>>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it

>>>> off laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being

>>>> spent trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have

>>>> provided the option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he

>>>> said. "There should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft

>>>> is force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's

>>>> their way or the highway."

>>>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the

>>>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers.

>>>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H.,

>>>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC

>>>> Authority are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the

>>>> introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen

>>>> copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or

>>>> a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said.

>>>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus

>>>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business

>>>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about

>>>> 40 percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are

>>>> Vista-based, with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus

>>>> has been working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems

>>>> that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing

>>>> Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients.

>>>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major

>>>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications

>>>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for

>>>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time

>>>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly."

>>>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows

>>>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system.

>>>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for

>>>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008.

>>>>

>>> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok?

>>> Did you even bother to read that stupid article?

>>> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers.

>>> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent

>>> in the market.

>>> Come on...get serious, ok?

>>> Frank

>>>

>>

>> Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think

>> and just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista

>> which is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail.

>

> hehehe...you're proving just how fukkin dumb you actually are!

> Try again you stupid POS cause I'm not using T-Bird.

> You fukkin lying linux loser POS!

> Frank

>

> You could

>> prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply

>> to this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster.

>

> Hahaha...you just proved yourself wrong you ignorant lying as*hole...lol!

> Idiot!

> Frank

>

>

 

I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're

using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or

Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why

aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Terry R. wrote:

>>

>

> Mozilla is the owner of TB, Mozilla suite (version 1.7.13 which is the

> one you're using), and Sea Monkey. But again, you're just arguing mice

> nuts. Why not just use WM and prove it?

 

I've never used OE and have no intention of using WM just to satisfy a

couple losers.

I don't use everything MS and don't like or promote everything MS.

That's is just wishful thinking on yours and others part.

>

> He wasn't "lying", it's just that most people don't use such an outdated

> mail client dating to April 14, 2006 such as you're using, especially

> when touting the latest and greatest of Vista.

 

I'm not "touting" anything.

We use the best tool for the job at hand.

We use Vista OS and we're doing very well with it thank you very much.

Frank

>

> (dropped cross-post to windowsxp.general which should have been done

> long ago)

>

"Smokey Grindel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:OJqYN3e%23HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This is a crap artical its english sucks

 

And you apparently have no right to judge others on this issue.

On 9/18/2007 10:06 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Terry R. wrote:

>

>> Mozilla is the owner of TB, Mozilla suite (version 1.7.13 which is the

>> one you're using), and Sea Monkey. But again, you're just arguing mice

>> nuts. Why not just use WM and prove it?

>

> I've never used OE and have no intention of using WM just to satisfy a

> couple losers.

> I don't use everything MS and don't like or promote everything MS.

> That's is just wishful thinking on yours and others part.

 

Sorry Frank, I'm not a "loser" and I don't appreciate your name

calling. If you want to say it to my face, we can meet because I live

in OC, otherwise cool it.

 

And there isn't any "wishful thinking" on my part. Your comments say it

all. No words have to be put in your mouth.

>> He wasn't "lying", it's just that most people don't use such an outdated

>> mail client dating to April 14, 2006 such as you're using, especially

>> when touting the latest and greatest of Vista.

>

> I'm not "touting" anything.

> We use the best tool for the job at hand.

> We use Vista OS and we're doing very well with it thank you very much.

> Frank

>> (dropped cross-post to windowsxp.general which should have been done

>> long ago)

>>

 

You have been "touting" Vista since your post of "All Vista all the

time". Are you now going to say you haven't been?

 

Well, Moz 1.7.13 is far from "the best tool for the job at hand".

 

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Alias wrote:

 

>>

>

> I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're

> using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or

> Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why

> aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail?

>

 

 

Cause I don't want to.

I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh?

Too bad.

Live with it.

Frank

 

BTW, linux sux!

Terry R. wrote:

>

> You have been "touting" Vista since your post of "All Vista all the

> time". Are you now going to say you haven't been?

 

Haven't been what? Using Vista? Of course we use Vista and I personally

use Vista.

It works just fine for the biz and for my personal use.

>

> Well, Moz 1.7.13 is far from "the best tool for the job at hand".

 

It's my personal choice for a news reader and I'll decide what the best

tool is for my own personal use.

Frank

Just wait till Vista ME comes out. They'll have fixed every little problem by

then.

 

Bad thing is...........a million more problems will show up.

On 9/18/2007 11:14 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Terry R. wrote:

>

>> You have been "touting" Vista since your post of "All Vista all the

>> time". Are you now going to say you haven't been?

>

> Haven't been what? Using Vista? Of course we use Vista and I personally

> use Vista.

> It works just fine for the biz and for my personal use.

 

So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

>> Well, Moz 1.7.13 is far from "the best tool for the job at hand".

>

> It's my personal choice for a news reader and I'll decide what the best

> tool is for my own personal use.

> Frank

>

 

Fine. Just don't call it "the best tool for the job at hand". Are you

afraid of newer technology? -)

 

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On 9/18/2007 11:38 AM On a whim, Henry Bemis pounded out on the keyboard

> Just wait till Vista ME comes out. They'll have fixed every little problem by

> then.

>

> Bad thing is...........a million more problems will show up.

>

>

 

I thought that's what is out currently? -)

 

(removed unneeded cross-post to windowsxp.general)

 

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On 9/18/2007 11:02 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Alias wrote:

>

>

>> I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're

>> using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or

>> Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why

>> aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail?

>>

>

>

> Cause I don't want to.

> I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh?

> Too bad.

> Live with it.

> Frank

>

> BTW, linux sux!

 

Will you please take a moment and stop cross-posting to

windowsxp.general. This has nothing to do with XP.

 

 

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Terry R. wrote:

> On 9/18/2007 11:14 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

>

>> Terry R. wrote:

>>

>>> You have been "touting" Vista since your post of "All Vista all the

>>> time". Are you now going to say you haven't been?

>>

>>

>> Haven't been what? Using Vista? Of course we use Vista and I

>> personally use Vista.

>> It works just fine for the biz and for my personal use.

>

>

> So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

 

That statement illustrates the fact that you don't have to deal with the

public.

We need to be able to natively open almost any file that comes to us.

>

>>> Well, Moz 1.7.13 is far from "the best tool for the job at hand".

>>

>>

>> It's my personal choice for a news reader and I'll decide what the

>> best tool is for my own personal use.

>> Frank

>>

>

> Fine. Just don't call it "the best tool for the job at hand".

 

For my personal use it is.

 

Are you

> afraid of newer technology? -)

 

Far from it pal...far from it!

Frank

>

Terry R. wrote:

> On 9/18/2007 11:02 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>

>>> I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're

>>> using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or

>>> Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why

>>> aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail?

>>>

>>

>>

>> Cause I don't want to.

>> I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh?

>> Too bad.

>> Live with it.

>> Frank

>>

>> BTW, linux sux!

>

>

> Will you please take a moment and stop cross-posting to

> windowsxp.general. This has nothing to do with XP.

>

>

 

Nah...I didn't start the thread.

You're a real uptight control freak aren't you.

Frank

"Frank" <fb@nosspan.clim> wrote in message

news:uFeMwQj%23HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>> So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

>

> That statement illustrates the fact that you don't have to deal with the

> public.

> We need to be able to natively open almost any file that comes to us.

>>

 

 

Let me get this clear: you keep older computers, running these older

operating systems, just so you can open other users' files??

 

ss.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:45 -0700, Frank <fb@nosspan.clim> wrote:

>Terry R. wrote:

>>>> You have been "touting" Vista since your post of "All Vista all the

>>>> time". Are you now going to say you haven't been?

>>>

>>>

>>> Haven't been what? Using Vista? Of course we use Vista and I

>>> personally use Vista.

>>> It works just fine for the biz and for my personal use.

>>

>>

>> So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

>

>That statement illustrates the fact that you don't have to deal with the

>public.

>We need to be able to natively open almost any file that comes to us.

 

For that mythical "business" of yours you said you run from your

kitchen table. I think Frank is really a sixty year old paper boy that

delivers newspapers from his motorized wheelchair.

>>

>>>> Well, Moz 1.7.13 is far from "the best tool for the job at hand".

>>>

>>>

>>> It's my personal choice for a news reader and I'll decide what the

>>> best tool is for my own personal use.

>>> Frank

>>>

>>

>> Fine. Just don't call it "the best tool for the job at hand".

>

>For my personal use it is.

>

> Are you

>> afraid of newer technology? -)

>

>Far from it pal...far from it!

>Frank

 

Frankie is afraid to look in the mirror. Hell, I don't blame him.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:13:02 +0100, "Synapse Syndrome"

<synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote:

>"Frank" <fb@nosspan.clim> wrote in message

>news:uFeMwQj%23HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

>>

>> That statement illustrates the fact that you don't have to deal with the

>> public.

>> We need to be able to natively open almost any file that comes to us.

>>>

>

>

>Let me get this clear: you keep older computers, running these older

>operating systems, just so you can open other users' files??

>

>ss.

>

Frank just stuck his foot in his mouth again. He must like the taste.

Don't worry, he does that dozens of times every week then pretends he

didn't say what he said or that you didn't understand or some other

half-ass excuse. Don't expect anything rational from Frank, he's just

a clueless troll that lives in never never land where he fancies

himself the ultimate computer user.

Synapse Syndrome wrote:

> "Frank" <fb@nosspan.clim> wrote in message

> news:uFeMwQj%23HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>>>So why do you have XP, W2K, and Me still?

>>

>>That statement illustrates the fact that you don't have to deal with the

>>public.

>>We need to be able to natively open almost any file that comes to us.

>>

>

>

> Let me get this clear: you keep older computers, running these older

> operating systems, just so you can open other users' files??

>

> ss.

>

>

Exactly! If someone bring us for example and old MS Publisher file, say

v2, we have that version loaded on ME. So we can view the file as original.

Simple huh?

Frank