FPCH Admin allheart55 Cindy E Posted July 30, 2015 FPCH Admin Posted July 30, 2015 Windows 10 is now available as a free upgrade for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users. While millions are performing the upgrade this week, Microsoft is working hard on updates and fixes behind the scenes. Some of those patches have already started rolling out, but there are more to come. The first bigger collection of fixes will come with what Microsoft calls Service Release 1 (SR1). Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans tell The Verge that SR1 is due to be released in early August, possibly as early as next week. While SR1 won't include new features, it will fix some of the issues people have been experiencing with Windows 10. After the initial patches and updates, Microsoft is working toward a bigger collection of fixes and feature additions for later this year. Tentatively scheduled for October, some of those additions will include a new Messaging app to provide Skype integration and extensions support for the Microsoft Edge browser. "There's no one working on a Windows 11, but there's a group of people working on some really cool updates to Windows 10 that the Windows insiders will see soon," says Microsoft's Windows chief Terry Myerson in an interview with The Verge. Windows 10 testers will start to receive new builds shortly, with the ability to test new features like Microsoft Edge extension support before it's available more broadly later this year. Windows 10 testers will see Microsoft Edge extensions soon. Speaking to The Verge last week, Microsoft Edge program manager Drew DeBruyne revealed a little more about how extensions will work in Microsoft Edge. Extensions will be javascript-based, and Microsoft is trying to mimic exactly how Chrome extensions work so it's easy for developers to port them across. In the screenshot above you can see how a Pinterest extension is integrated in a similar way to Chrome. "The intention is that there’s not much work to do, or zero work to do," explains DeBruyne. "We’re doing a lot of work to essentially support the same APIs that Chrome does." Extensions will be hosted in the Windows Store alongside regular apps, and developers will be able to sideload them. Microsoft's dedicated Messaging app for Windows 10 will enter preview in the coming weeks. The messaging app will bring Skype integration directly into Windows 10, creating a more iMessaging- and FaceTime-like service. Microsoft is planning to release this to Windows 10 users later this year, but insiders will get to test it very soon. You'll be able to make video and audio calls all without a dedicated Skype app, and Skype messaging will be supported through the built-in Messaging app. Outside of features and app updates, Microsoft is also working on the basics. Windows 10 battery life isn't exactly where the company wants it to be. "We are ... I want to be able to say it's the best battery life, but right now we're about equal to Windows 8.1 updates," explains Myerson. "We're pushing for some fixes to say we're better. Still, 8.1 update had very good battery life, so we're in no way stepping back." Further out, Microsoft is also working on a "redstone" wave of releases for Windows 10 that will add more features in 2016. While existing built-in app updates will roll out regularly over the coming months, redstone may introduce new apps as part of two summer and fall updates due next year. The big push of Windows as a service continues. Source : theverge Quote ~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.~ ~~Robert McCloskey~~
GimboV Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Roll out Win 10 in July and SP1 August??? I say stupid! Why not include all those fixes before roll out?? Why because of an old belief that people won't upgrade until SP1 is released. Oh and MS is already backtracking because Windows as a service was supposed to eliminate such things as service packs. So what exactly is this Windows 10 and what is Windows as a service???? Quote http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png']http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png[/url]
FPCH Admin allheart55 Cindy E Posted July 30, 2015 Author FPCH Admin Posted July 30, 2015 It's not actually a service pack, it's called a service release but I get your point and agree with you. Quote ~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.~ ~~Robert McCloskey~~
starbuck Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Why because of an old belief that people won't upgrade until SP1 is released. I personally don't think so. Business logic would be that.... The final version had to be ready a couple of weeks ago so that it was sent out to PC manufacturers (RTM) Since that time, M$ have continually made improvements and have addressed bugs. These bug fixes must be fairly minor as my Win10 system has been running fine for a couple of weeks now. If there are any extra additions... all well and good (although I'm happy with Win10 as it is ) I think that sending out a service release so quickly just means that M$ want to stay 'on the ball' and not lag behind on any updates to a new system. Oh and MS is already backtracking because Windows as a service was supposed to eliminate such things as service packs. So what exactly is this Windows 10 and what is Windows as a service???? I think the problem here is understanding what 'Windows as a Service' means. The underlying theme is this: Microsoft does not want the Windows market to be split between a bunch of different versions. For a brief period, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 were all both extant and actively supported Windows versions. This is bad for more or less the entire Windows world. It's bad for developers of Windows software because they're forced to choose between the best functionality (found in Windows 8.1) or the widest compatibility (target Windows XP). It's bad for Microsoft, because it has to support all these versions. It's bad, in many ways, for end-users, too; using old versions means that they don't get the latest features, and in the case of Windows XP, they don't even receive security updates. Windows 10 is changing that. The difference with Windows 10 is that this operating system version could possibly represent the very last major Windows release. Whether you install Windows 10 when released, buy a new PC with Windows 10 pre-installed, or decide to upgrade later on, it will always be Windows 10..... even on Tablets or Smartphones. The same programs will run on any platform. Microsoft will provide new features and functionality and deliver security updates and critical fixes on a regular basis. So, no service packs..... just service releases. Probably gone on a bit more than I intended..... but why do people have to continually knock something new, when it's not even been given a chance? Work this logic out!!.... what's the answer? WinXP ...... Pass Vista ...... Fail Win7 ....... Pass Win8 ....... Fail Win10....... Edited July 30, 2015 by starbuck 2 Quote
GimboV Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 WinXP ...... Pass Vista ...... Fail Win7 ....... Pass Win8 ....... Fail Are you serious? WinXP pass? Win XP before SP3 was a total failure. It was and is the most hacked OS. It was a major change from the separation of Win and Win NT. Vista was not a failure. Hardware manufacturers were the fail for Vista. MS told the manufacturers they were changing the way drivers would work and no one listened. Vista was a great OS. WIn7 was just a polished version of Vista, never understood all the fanfare about it. Win8 is a fail? How? Win8 is the best thing MS ever did. What the removal of the start menu? It was 20 years old! Glad to see it go, you served us well but it's time to move on. The Win8 start page is awesome and if you haven't mastered it I would suggest taking another look at it. And all the BS about it being a tablet OS is BS I use a mouse and keyboard on win8 daily and never notice any difference. The only thing I wish they would bring back is good code. And by that I mean code for keyboard shortcuts. Windows always had keyboard shortcuts and I don't mean Win+ any key. I mean the underscore of a letter within a button. Like so (Button) this was a great feature, however most people had no idea what it was. You could actually use Windows without a mouse. I won a bet once with someone because they didn't believe I could totally operate the OS with just a keyboard. Free lunch and made someone wiser. Quote http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png']http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png[/url]
starbuck Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 WinXP ...... Pass Vista ...... Fail Win7 ....... Pass Win8 ....... Fail Win10....... This is just popular consensus from the net and also based on what OS are still being used today. These are not my personal views on the OS. In fact I've not yet come across a Windows OS I couldn't get along with. Most people will dislike an OS just because it's something new are they can't be bothered to learn it properly. Because of my job I basically have to learn each OS as it comes along. These are the percentages of OS still in use..... ( July 2015 ) Windows XP .... 11.74% Windows Vista ..1.84% Windows 7 ..... 60.75% Windows 8 ..... 2.77% Ok, Win8.1 has picked up some ground .... but it was the main Win8 that I was talking about. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 XP may be the most hacked OS.... but it's still in wide use. Quote
Plastic Nev Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 I was quite surprised to see that all the computers in my local and near brand new hospital are still running on XP. No doubt other major institutions will also be the same. It is usually the financial side that dictates this, as it may be OK for the home or small business user to upgrade and buy one or two new computers running the latest system. However for something like the health service with possibly millions of computers, it would be an astronomic figure to replace all of them. Quote
GimboV Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Yes I agree Nev that is why those numbers don't mean much. I don't view the success or failure by the number of systems in use. That number doesn't mean anything in terms of success other then to Microsoft's revenue and then only at the time of sale. I view success on the actual workings of the OS. There are too many factors to try and figure out why someone is still on a certain OS or not on another. Win XP in terms of numbers was when the market boomed, everyday people were buying PC's due to the internet craze. Not everyone is a computer person, so they may view it like a TV or a refrigerator and only upgrade when it breaks or every tens years, whatever comes first. Quote http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png']http://www.extremetechsupport.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/5569ad19ed3164831fb4dda6815a627f.png[/url]
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