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I just downloaded the free "CryptoPrevent" application. It gives you three choices to choose from...

 

1. Default

2. Maximum Protection

3. Maximum Protection + Program Filtering-Beta

 

Which one do you suggest?

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Wow I was about to post about this N3 and actually I am not positive....one thing I can see if you are not going to purchase it, then "default" makes the most sense because that is "set and forget",you still can open it and manually update it though, however it is $15 for 10 pc's for life and I think this is one of those rare moments where even people who never purchase software should because I would be willing to bet one day this becomes yearly fee and the opportunity to be grandfathered in would be missed like Ad Muncher, Win Patrol is still that way etc....so I did it. This threat is way too serious to be thinking about timing in updating, businesses have been ruined by this thing. Now you use Nod32 and I use Emsisoft and both claim to prevent Crypto Locker and its variants, but that is a claim I think is hard to prove but I do know that these guys at "foolishit" were the first ones to spot this problem and offer a solution and that impresses me. And so far we have never had an issue that we could not easily remove and fix issues except for this so I look at Ransomware as a very special but different danger than all the others.

 

As I have said before my files are all on a server and all my pcs are backup machines because of how I back up files and very seldom are both desktops on at the same time because of this threat so I doubt I have any real danger. However in spite of all that precaution I still have a NAS drive I purchased specially for this situation for nearly $500 (Netgear with cpu and memory) that is only on twice a week making auto backups of everything on the server as well as what my other pcs do daily.

 

Before purchasing make up your mind on one thing and I would hope Pete jumps in here with an opinion, but I have been reading the risks of using too many free exploit programs like using this and MBAE (Mbam Anti Exploit) is probably not a good idea as they do the same thing though MBAE should do more than just what this does. But bear in mind Crypto Prevent is total Ransomware prevention and for now I think that is definitely something everyone should be doing and I will put this on all new systems for sale myself. This one problem is way too serious to not be protecting against and this cure, was the first one out and to my mind the only one I trust. Obviously no one is making money here and though the same is true for Mbam, the track for free is not as good as with these guys because all you have to do to see that is to remember when Mbam was $24.95 for life and then they took in their own words a "slight price increase" to $24.95 for life, just as the product was losing its potency too!

 

If you purchase it as I did then my inclination is to go "Maximum Protection" as it is not clear if the "default" will back itself up automatically though manual update is an easy option choosing "updates". I intend to ask them that question but regardless of answer I believe "maximum protection" is the way I will go.

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do you know how this compare's to HitmanPro.Alert

 

HitmanPro.Alert

http://www.surfright.nl/en/alert

 

HitmanPro's CryptoGuard

http://www.surfright.nl/en/cryptoguard

 

i know that Malwarebytes buy's out ZeroVunLabs to make Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit so do you think it is better

 

would not Antiexecutable software like NoVirusThanks EXE Radar Pro also stop this kind of Exploits

 

http://www.novirusthanks.org/products/exe-radar-pro/

 

thanks

 

:)

 

James

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I am a strong believer in HItman Pro and they have been in the forefront with solutions to Ransomware from day 1 James so I would be a believer just remember choose 1. For myself I have already done Crypto Prevent and I like the fact it auto updates, something none of the free ones do that I can tell so I would stay where I am.The "no virus etc" I have never heard of and that doesn't make it bad it is just not fair for me to comment. The worst part of all of thjis is we have no way to prove anything stops this scumware and no one I know is about to go try to get infected with Crypto Locker to prove any one of these is better than the other. So for me its an intellectual judgment, has to be so here is how I arrived at it.

 

I am a big believer in Nod32 and brought it to all these folks who now use it but I have left from time to time as I found they fell asleep at the switches a few times and the product became flawed. Sure they recovered but.....

I am a big believer in Emsisoft and I resell it. But it too is untested. That is why I chose Crypto Prevent. I only am looking for one thing and that is to stop Ransomwhere and that is all this does but because it auto updates I would bet it is always on top of newness which Anti malware has to be.

Hitman expressed process as behavioral and Crypto says it knows Crypto Process and finds it by that. That means more to me. But this is me.Hope this helps.

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Rich.......Like others i also uninstalled MBAE (Mbam Anti Exploit). I was also using many file cleaners & decided to minimize the amount used. I also wonder which is preferable, Crypto Prevent "maximum protection" or "maximum protection+beta"? I'm also interested in Pete's opinions. Edited by N3
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You guys crack me up :) You people will state that some product is a resource hog yet you will install 9 programs to watch your system. I ask why? Yes cryptolocker is bad I will admit it, however instead of installing a bunch of programs to deal with "all" the issues, provide us with one solution that takes care of everything. I don't care what it is or who makes it, but I don't want to run an anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-crypto or anti anything else for that matter. Give me one blanket product and save my system resources for other things. End of rant
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Here is one product (Macrium Reflect) Free. Clone your operating system regularly onto another hard drive and leave it disconnected. Sure fire way of beating all there crypto parasites or bog your system down with all these programs. I know which I prefer. You prob have one chance in a million getting hit with ransome ware. All overkill to me.
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Hi here's my 2 cents about cloning and creating a image! Copied from the internet!!

 

 

Imaging makes more sense for backup, because you can put multiple image backups onto one sufficiently large external hard drive. You can only put one clone on a drive. In fact, several backup programs, including my current favorite for imaging and cloning, Macrium Reflect allow you to make small incremental image backups, recording how the contents of the drive change day to day.

 

There is one advantage to cloning for backups. Should your main drive crash, you can swap in a cloned drive and be back in action almost immediately. With an image, you’d have to buy a new internal drive and restore the backup to it.

 

But if you really need to be up and running that fast, and you’re willing to dedicate an entire drive for that purpose, you’d be better off putting the two drives together into a RAID 2. That way, the spare drive will be completely up to date.

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If you are using RAID, Crypto Locker will infect all of the drives.

~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.~

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Yes cryptolocker is bad I will admit it, however instead of installing a bunch of programs to deal with "all" the issues, provide us with one solution that takes care of everything.

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The guy that invents that will make a fortune..... it's just not possible.

One of the best solutions is... Common Sense!

But to be honest a lot of that goes out of the window as soon as someone buys a PC.

 

How many times are people warned about backing up their system regularly and keeping the back ups safe?

and how many times do we see..... I'm infected with Cryptolocker and all of my files are encrypted.

I don't have any back ups, what do I do?

 

Yes there are a lot of programs out there to help combat Cryptolocker and other ransomeware, but a lot of common sense on the internet and common sense in using your system....... and you possibly won't need all these programs.

 

I have never used any of these programs and have never had any Ransomware on any of my systems ( and i spend a lot of time searching and using the Net )

come to think of it..... I haven't had any malware on my systems in about 3 - 4 years ( only the ones i purposely put on there )

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This may be a silly question.....Are there brave people out there who use a bench machine & purposely look for ransomware to see if their machine can stop it? I ask this question wanting to know which or what software is used the most for the above.
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Are there brave people out there who use a bench machine & purposely look for ransomware to see if their machine can stop it?

There are people out there that do infect their systems to see how malware works and what can be done to combat it.

That's why we have the 'Tools' available to us.

The big problem is, as soon as someone finds a way around some form of malware.... the writers move the goal posts and rewrite the malware code.

That's why it's a neverending cycle.

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Image files are great but do you want to make them everyday? That is the only way image files can help you I think the real solution is file and data backup as you don't need to reinstall Windows, the virus is easy to remove, but its the files and data you will lose. I spent the $15 because this is the one problem we cannot get around the effects of for over 2 years now so it is special and different and I cannot afford it being in my system. My advice is use your favorite AntiMalware program for normal Malware prevention but for this one incurable situation spend the $15 unless your files have no value. I don't use 9 or 15 other products though I do use Ad Muncher and WOT + Emsisoft and Win Patrol, all of which functions do not duplicate each other Gimbo.
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I just found something out that is really important here and that is the free version of MBAE does not protect Office documents, .pdf readers, or media player files. Those are some of the first targets of any encrypting ransomware. That omission pretty much negates the use of the free version, in my opinion altogether. Now is this crew going to spend $24.95 a year to protect itself from a few specific things?

 

"The free version of Anti-Exploit will protect against exploits in browsers, their add-ons, and Java, while the $24.95 premium version will also work in Microsoft Office, PDF readers, media players, and software selected by the owner. Anti-Exploit for Business works in conjunction with the Malwarebytes Management Console for enterprise deployment."

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I purchased the $15 email update version of Crypto Prevent. Which is the preferable protection...

Maximum Protection or Maximum Protection+ Beta?

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I agree with Dougie and seldom ever do beta but like I said in this case I want the very newest so I chose the Maximum Protection Beta anyway.

I don't look at this protection the way I do any other because there is no other problem with anywhere near the destructiveness.

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Hi here's my 2 cents about cloning and creating a image! Copied from the internet!!

 

 

Imaging makes more sense for backup, because you can put multiple image backups onto one sufficiently large external hard drive. You can only put one clone on a drive. In fact, several backup programs, including my current favorite for imaging and cloning, Macrium Reflect allow you to make small incremental image backups, recording how the contents of the drive change day to day.

 

There is one advantage to cloning for backups. Should your main drive crash, you can swap in a cloned drive and be back in action almost immediately. With an image, you’d have to buy a new internal drive and restore the backup to it.

 

But if you really need to be up and running that fast, and you’re willing to dedicate an entire drive for that purpose, you’d be better off putting the two drives together into a RAID 2. That way, the spare drive will be completely up to date.

When I was considering Macrium, and others, read an article that images unable to be read and utilized. Which are bad for that, which are good?

"Occasionally, I am lucky enough to see myself! It is always a great revelation to have a minute of insight that reveals how unimportant are the things I thought so important!" ..myself.
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