mikehende Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Hey guys, UI need to order 4gb ram for a Compaq sr1810nx desktop pc. I ran the Crucial scanner which shows: 1GB DDR PC32OO Unbuffered NON-ECC 2.6V 128Meg x 64 CT536750 Can anyone tell me please if this is the same ram? http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Technology-103486-400Mhz-PC3200/dp/B0006TTDEO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1422048025&sr=8-7&keywords=pc3200u+memory Quote
FPCH Admin AWS Posted January 23, 2015 FPCH Admin Posted January 23, 2015 It looks correct to me. As long as the RAM is PC 3200 then it will work. Most RAM is non-ecc and unbuffered so those don't matter unless you're running a server in which case you'll need ecc. Quote Off Topic Forum - Unlike the Rest
Rich-M Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Yeah Crucial has been changing numbers on its own for what it sells to make them different from the ones they wholesale out to resellers but that does look the same. It is not so important with ddr ram to have the exact model as it is today with Ddr3 and 4 which is getting fussier an fussier with ram for compatibility anyway. On new systems if I cannot match the exact models I either change the board if I can't find it exact or the ram. Quote
mikehende Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 This pc which came with a beeping noise immediately suggested ram issues to me so first thing I did was to reseat the 2 modules one at a time then tested with one of mine, strange thing though, one of the ram sticks was pc3200 and the other was pc2700, I am sure this machine did not come from Compaq this way so whoever did the ram work on this had to have known they were using mismatched sticks, is this ever wise to do? Quote
FPCH Admin allheart55 Cindy E Posted January 25, 2015 FPCH Admin Posted January 25, 2015 It's not usually the smartest thing to do. Dell and HP are actually known for pulling this. They will sell the RAM to unsuspecting customers as "backwards compatible". Many times it will work for a period of time until all of a sudden, it doesn't. :D Quote ~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.~ ~~Robert McCloskey~~
mikehende Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 So to confirm, this mismatching may have caused this problem? Quote
FPCH Admin allheart55 Cindy E Posted January 25, 2015 FPCH Admin Posted January 25, 2015 Absolutely. Quote ~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.~ ~~Robert McCloskey~~
Rich-M Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Now wait a minute. Today this would never fly though technically there is nothing wrong with it shame on a mfgr for doing that when they have the resources to not. The only thing this means is that both sticks will work at the lower speed technically and all boards worked within the range of 1 speed down or up as was standard practice. If the ram is mismatched it is because the cas latency is wrong, Ecc wrong or density wrong which has nothing to do with the speed of the ram. Another reason why it is tough to do this today is newer hardware is way more demanding and often will reject new ram that is even the same model number but from a different batch( because there may be a different mfgr of one or the other) but in the era of your desktop there this could easily have worked, and I had been known to do that when resources were short to me, but I would correct it later if I had the opportunity. Quote
IceMan37 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Mismatched sticks of that era is a bad idea as Cindy said, but let me give you a builders perspective. It depends on the chipset used (NV-VIA-AMD-SIS). I built with them all, and under any circumstances the same rules that apply today were there at that time also although the memory controller is differnet. Meaning, if you added a second stick of memory that might be a different brand you may introduce several unstable variables. One is that one stick is DDR3 2700 and the other DDR3 400, and possibly different default voltages-timings-cas latency. Most mobos of that era will try to dial in the lowest stick's speed. In any account you may have different original memory suppliers (EG Micron vs Samsung), or different default timings. Not good. If you are very lucky and your motherboard is very forgiving you might get both sticks running at DDR 333 stably but usually this is not the case with mixed memory. Edited January 27, 2015 by Rich-M Quote
DSTM Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 I make a habit of buying one Ram stick the size Gigs and speed I require and what the Mobo accepts and never had these mismatch issues. I have had less memory issues since changing to one stick and DDR3 ram is pretty cheap. I stick to Kingston or Corsair. Quote Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm Schizophrenic, and so am I Free Photo Restoration and Repair for all Forum members - CLICK HERE Please pop back and let us know if your Computer problem has been solved.
Rich-M Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Well yes its true you won't mismatch Dougie but most boards today have dual channel ram and you are missing the opportunity for a bit of speed there my friend. I used to have issue after issue with memory until I realized there is no reason to buy a "pig'n a poke" so to speak and catch22 just phrased it better than I have: "Meaning, if you added a second stick of memory that might be a different brand you may introduce several unstable variables. One is that one stick is DDR3 2700 and the other DDR3 400, and possibly different default voltages-timings-cas latency. Most mobos of that era will try to dial in the lowest stick's speed." Ram is matched by cas latency, density and Ecc factor and not all memory lists all those ratings. Speed is really the least important factor having to do with compatibility. I let everyone else do the work for me. When I pick a motherboard I go to the mfgr site and find the list of compatible tested ram and if I cannot buy one of those, I change the board, it is very simple. Since I started doing that I have never had an issue with memory. Often times I note that new boards have very little ram tested for them and when I see that I also move on. There are enough other problems that we have in building. Why take such a simple thing and make it complex? I must admit I also have noted HP particularly shipping out desktops with mismatched ram quite often a while back, and was astonished with their resources they would stoop to such a stupid thing. Quote
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