No I did look but I would bet the gpu may have obscured it....I never got to look at it today as my ram came in for server so I had that nightmare instead. I failed to notice that this server starts with 2008R2 server OS and that one I cannot do Workgroup on and I owb 2008 Standard. Of course it installed but I could not get any drivers to get nic card going. Then I tried to add an Intel Gigbit Nic card bujt it was too old and I could not get that one in either. So after wasting all that time I had put away a version of 2012 R2 Standard which worked a treat once I finally chose the right version;.l Honestly I don't know why anyone has issue with that one. It tames as nicely as Windows 8 does. Real quiet with 2 ssd drives in. If it weren't for an occasional blinking light I would never know it is on. Thing is about 20% the size of "the HP beast", and I can carry it with 1 hand. The HP I need a fork lift for. Later tonight I migrate it over into network.

^sounds great. Nice compact unit.

About facing your HDD backwards (the way it's supposed to be facing in your case) I would not worry about having to get into your case all the time. Also I would think you not have to continually get in and out of the backside of your case once the HDD SATA power and cable are connected it should be a one time thing pretty much.

About facing your HDD backwards (the way it's supposed to be facing in your case) I would not worry about having to get into your case all the time. Also I would think you not have to continually get in and out of the backside of your case once the HDD SATA power and cable are connected it should be a one time thing pretty much.

You are right and for the average user it would be it. Remember though I make a lot of changes in a system but I also occasionally have to plug a client drive into a sata port too as the usb docks are not perfect and every so often I have a drive the docks won't read but my pc will. When I used to have a bench machine I never had to do that. On this system built about 2 months ago I upped the video card, added the soundcard and replaced a bad ssd drive in that time and I still have to replace the Ssd drive in it when I get another 256 in as I have a 3 year old 120 Gb Crucial in there that I replaced the corrupted PNY with and I used one of the drives I was going to do that with for the server so I am waiting for that replacement to come in from Tiger Direct as I do not want to put the PNY back in there. I will try that in another pc to find out why it failed. It could have been a bad install or clone as easily as a bad drive.

I always run the power cable under the GPU and I have an 8 inch extension if I need it.

Looks so much better.

I replaced a faulty PSU yesterday and the 4pin molex came in a long black strip with multiple connections

which I hadn't seen before.Came with 2 strips of 4 so plenty

So much neater than having extensions everywhere.

That does sound good Dougie. Did that fix the problem (we were talking about this problem on Paltalk the other night.)?

Yes Rich. Your thoughts were spot on. The new PSU fixed the problem.

Many thanks.

I'm waiting on Cindy's build. She says she uses AMD when building so I'm very curious to see her PC.

I haven't heard any rumbling of plans on anything new from that corner.

I don't know about "rumblings" but I do know she said she builds with AMD exclusively. So I'm waiting to see a build. I'm sure she builds fine rigs.

From what I hear, Cindy's eight core AMD rig is running fine.

Why would she build another rig just to satisfy your curiosity?

Not talking about "another" rig even the one she has is well enough. When I said "her" PC that means what it says.

 

I don't need for anyone to satisfy my curiosity (as you say) this thread was for sharing. You you can even share your rig if you like.

Not talking about "another" rig even the one she has is well enough. When I said "her" PC that means what it says.

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I don't know about "rumblings" but I do know she said she builds with AMD exclusively. So I'm waiting to see a build. I'm sure she builds fine rigs.

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You didn't say "I want to see her build"

You said you wanted to see "A" build.

I want some G.Skill DDR4 - 3000 R-Red (4*4G) 16gb for my next build and my ticker near stopped when my computer shop wanted $615. Has to be cheaper in the US I would think, even with freight.

Damn! Yeah, I'll say it's a lot cheaper.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231799 - $274.99

 

http://us.hardware.info/productinfo/240814/gskill-ripjaws-iv-red-16gb-ddr4-3000-cl15-quad-kit - $244.99

Thanks, Cindy. Looks like I will have to source all the hardware from the US except for the case.

Half the brand names I want they haven't got and what they do have is very expensive here.

That's a huge saving just on the Ram alone.

Just did a "AS SSD" test on all my SSD's and two have lost 50% of their speed.

Looks like I have to be more careful what brands I buy in the future.

Their advertized speed is not what you get in the real world usage.

Not Happy.

They aren't Samsung, are they? ;) :eek:

 

Sounds like an issue with performance degradation.

No Samsungs, Cindy.

Steady state performance seems to be where the SSD's are not cutting the mustard, Cindy.

Performance degradation is a real problem. A real learning curve.

The brands currently are Intel (3), Kingmax, Corsair and Crucial.

Doing a lot of reading up at the moment.

I need to find what works and what doesn't.

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6104/ssd-consistency-testing-18-drives-tested-for-real-world-performance/index5.html

On the AS SSD test the kingmax has the heaviest load and pulling 850

The others are only 450, 550 and 650

Something is amiss here and I want to get to the bottom of it.

I want to get the best 2 SSD's for the new build.

Just spent sometime re reading this thread after a long time.

The amount of back slapping that went on and Rich being a master

of excuses had me smiling from ear to ear.:big_grin:

The second image on the first page looks like something out of a scary underwater movie.

I would have felt too embarrassed to even post such a work of art like that.:big_ha:

Why don't you post some pictures of your cylinder build, Dougie.

I really enjoyed seeing them.

You should share them with everyone here.

I will eventually, Cindy.

I was working on one of my latest builds last night and took some photos.

This build I have a M.2 PCIe hard drive with the OS on. All new territory to me.

The Kingston Fury M.2 is exceeding the advertised Read and Write speeds so looking good so far.

Even with a conventional PSU (non modular) and running 5 extra fans the wiring can be carefully hidden if the correct case is chosen.

Here are a couple of Photos. All the extra fans are hooked up to the fan controller.

The tower looks better than the photos give credit for.

 

NIce looking Dougie. What board did you use with the M.2?

Awesome, Dougie.

Great cable management and I love the case too. :thumbsup: