Rich-M Posted September 8, 2014 Author Posted September 8, 2014 I am so sick and tired of defective components from Newegg! The good one now back in came from D&H where most of my components have been from this year and I have yet to have one thing that does not work from them. Oh and before anyone says anything the wire off of the back exhaust fan is now tied down to the 12V wire. Sometimes the pictures really help pointing out things you do not see in front of you as this photo did for me. Quote
IceMan37 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I love the look. With the moderate GPU airflow will be ok. Hope we can meet soon and exchange ideas. How is the PC running overall? Quote
IceMan37 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Before I leave I will leave you with two things. One, your rear fan, tie up the molex connector you don't need it you have only two case fans use your motherboard connector MSI has very good mobo fan control. Two, if you feel you have to use the the rear fan 12v molex run it behind your rear USB connector and underneath your video card PCB around the back/bottom of your case. Keep in mind your CPU connector from the PSU will also run underneath your mobo or using the case routing holes, and then routing them around the top frame of the mobo. Alternatively you can also route the entire main PSU strand underneath the main cage, and them backwards through the HDD cage with the ATX connectors and all other connectors through the HDD vent holes, that will also shorten the wire slack. Quote
Rich-M Posted September 10, 2014 Author Posted September 10, 2014 Oh I should have explained that there is a system fan connector right there under the video card but it does not work and I didn't feel like sending the board back for one system fan contact after putting the whole thing together and using it for a few weeks. Remember I added the back fan. Also the wires are together not loose like it shows as I said somewhere in here "before you say this" I had secured the wire to the 12v Psu connector to keep it out of the way of the case fan....also I cannot go under the video card because it looks like it only has a heat sink but it does have a fan as well. Overall it is a great system and much more solid than the Intel i-5 4670 was. I had issues with that since day 1 with occasional BSODs and freezes now and then. Is Delaware definite now? Well we surely can get together after you get settled. Quote
IceMan37 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 No Rich it's not Delaware but we will get together Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Rich this is a nice pic and I mean it. Not as clean wiring as I like I know you like something that you can easily get to for changes, but a damn great job sir. Don't be afraid to post it in TSF only because it's an MSI motherboard. It looks fantastic! Quote
Rich-M Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 Thanks William. I think you can see in this shot what I was talking about with the Ssd drive how I had to use the inside sata plug because it is way shorter in order to be able to close the side which is still tough. It looks a bit better than that now with the wires to the video card out of the bottom as you know a 6 pin and 8 pin. I didn't want to post in that thread because we can be criticized already for posting too much of us in it but maybe when I get a new shot as it is now I can find a reason to start a thread and you are right I really would like to post I am using an MSI board there as it would help the cause. This unit would look so much better with the damn psu on the top and I notice more case makers are starting to go back to that. It is a real liability having that wide open fan grate on the bottom as anything can fly in there as I found out the day I accidentally dropped a screw inside when I was adding the new video card and had to take the damn thing out and apart to get it out resetting everything inside for the 5th time. Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah I prefer the PSU at the top too and would welcome that change back to more cases. In this age of tech I would also welcome PSU's that are smaller but just as powerful but and thinner wires easier to manage and run around inside the PC. BTW I have your pic as one of my desktop backgrounds and I'm currently using it. Quote
DSTM Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I agree smaller PSU's would be an advantage. This latest build has the PSU at the bottom and I believe it aids cooling by having it at the bottom. Creates better cool air circulation. I raised my Tower off the floor to help it not picking up so much unwanted particles.The tower I bought is huge. A Cool Master HAF and heavy as well. I am very fussy about untidy wires. I run all the PSU wiring where possible out of sight and use cable ties. Cooling is good at the moment after 10hrs running CPU 26c Mobo 27c Graphics 27c Both HDD's 25c. I do use a decent cooler as well. Quote Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm Schizophrenic, and so am I Free Photo Restoration and Repair for all Forum members - CLICK HERE Please pop back and let us know if your Computer problem has been solved.
Rich-M Posted October 21, 2014 Author Posted October 21, 2014 Those cooling numbers are phenomenal but I bet having the big case helps a lot too along with your tidiness of wires. I never paid much attention to that as long as the numbers were near normal but always have had front fan blowing in and rear blowing out even on units I don't consider it necessary. My photo on your desktop is hysterical, I am honored! If it wasn't such a bitch to put the side back on I'd update that. Next time I have to take it off I will do so. Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 LOL it's a great pic of a friends build. Nothing better than that! Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Rich what brand/model SSD carriage is that you have there? Quote
Rich-M Posted October 23, 2014 Author Posted October 23, 2014 It's a 240 Gb PNY I bought from Tiger Direct for $99. It was one of my promo specials here in the Promo Forum. Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Well I meant the SSD carriage not the SSD itself. The 2.5" Blue SSD carriage. Quote
Rich-M Posted October 24, 2014 Author Posted October 24, 2014 Oh I misread that....it's a Bytec bracket: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994140&cm_re=SSD_Mounting_bracket-_-17-994-140-_-Product Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks! I think I will order a few for some older cases. Quote
Rich-M Posted October 25, 2014 Author Posted October 25, 2014 Note you can use one for two drives, that is what caught my eye originally even though I never used them that way. Quote
IceMan37 Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Yeah I got it booked in my favs. After I pay bills I'm ordering a few! I like the color it matches the MSI colors well.. Quote
DSTM Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't use 2 drives in one bracket. I like to space my drives for max cooling. I am trying an Intel SSD in my new build. So far so good. Edited October 25, 2014 by DSTM Quote Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm Schizophrenic, and so am I Free Photo Restoration and Repair for all Forum members - CLICK HERE Please pop back and let us know if your Computer problem has been solved.
Rich-M Posted October 25, 2014 Author Posted October 25, 2014 If you look at the bracket Dougie they are about 1/2 apart and remember an SSD has no moving parts so they really do not generate heat anyway. Quote
PappaJoe Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 can I ask if it's cheaper to build a computer or buy one? the one I have was donated it's older. runs fine though. If I wanted a new one how on earth would I build one like some of you have done? It looks like buying would be my only option. Actually in my case financing one. Quote
Rich-M Posted October 25, 2014 Author Posted October 25, 2014 It depends on what you are trying to build because you really don't build your own solely to save money. For me it started out in that building my own was the only way I could get all of what I wanted on a system. The more you do it the better you get at it and often times you can save more money building but not by buying all the components at one time. Buying them when you see a good price enables you to have things ready for the new build that cost less when you finally go to use them i.e. today you see a 240 Gb Ssd drive for $99 so you buy it and put it aside. Quote
PappaJoe Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I would not even begin to know how to build a computer but i know a few that do which could be a big help. Maybe when i am ready I should have one of them do it and pay a free to tech me how. Are there any good internet guides that are easy to follow that you would recommend? Quote
Rich-M Posted October 26, 2014 Author Posted October 26, 2014 Start here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html Quote
DSTM Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Start here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html Also this video may be a help with the basics as well to give you some idea what's involved. Edited October 26, 2014 by DSTM 2 Quote Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm Schizophrenic, and so am I Free Photo Restoration and Repair for all Forum members - CLICK HERE Please pop back and let us know if your Computer problem has been solved.
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