"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

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> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C most

> of the time.

 

You can look at the source code but unless you compile it and build your own

Ubuntu you don't know that that source is the code you have.

> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new software.

 

Most users can't look at the source, work out what it does, build it, etc.

so there is no real difference for most users.. they have to take the word

of whomever they got the build from.

> In windows you can never.

>

> That is a very big diff.

 

It is not a difference at all to the average user.

"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

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> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> Michael Solomon wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Alias, what's to stop any Linux distro from doing the same thing?

>>>

>>

>>

>> Actually, Ubuntu's ability and practice of doing just that are one of

>> the "advantages" Alias hypocritically boasts about in his many pro-Ubuntu

>> proselytizing posts.

>>

>>

>

> Michael and Bruce, you don't see what the problem is.

> The problem with M$ is simply they are installing stuff on your computer

> and you have no CLUE what it is or what is does.

 

And you have no clue how Microsoft operates. Just another fanboy.

>

> If you REALLY wanted to know you should try to reverse engineer the

> binaries, which are probably hopelessly obfuscated.

 

Oh yea, people are really going to take the time and reverse engineer

hundreds of DLL's and executables to see what is going on. Get a life.

>

> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C most

> of the time.

 

You probably would do something like that as you have no life.

>

> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new software. In

> windows you can never.

>

> That is a very big diff.

>

> Regards,

> Erwin

By the way, you still are a douche bag. Try being civil or is that out of

your scope?

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

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>

> "Erwin Moller"

> <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

> message news:46e994e5$0$236$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

>

>> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C

>> most of the time.

>

> You can look at the source code but unless you compile it and build your

> own Ubuntu you don't know that that source is the code you have.

>

>> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new software.

>

> Most users can't look at the source, work out what it does, build it, etc.

> so there is no real difference for most users.. they have to take the word

> of whomever they got the build from.

 

He just thinks that Microsoft is out to get everybody. He is paranoid.

Probably abused as a child. Come to think of it, his name is familiar. I

wonder if it was him on "To Catch a Predator".

 

>

>> In windows you can never.

>>

>> That is a very big diff.

>

> It is not a difference at all to the average user.

 

Erwin isn't an average user. He is a Putz.

>

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?

> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a

> laugh out of the content?

>

Why shouldn't they do it? After all, Windoze is their operating system and

they are simply leasing it to you. They own it, you don't. You have only

purchased the license. hehehe. They aren't changing the license behind your

back, but then again, maybe their EULA allows them to make changes to the

license at any time? It'll be interesting to see what changes did happen

with those files. I'm sure someone is going to decompile them and find

out. :-)

 

Cheers.

 

--

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http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

 

Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

 

Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

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"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

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> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> Michael Solomon wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Alias, what's to stop any Linux distro from doing the same thing?

>>>

>>

>>

>> Actually, Ubuntu's ability and practice of doing just that are one of

>> the "advantages" Alias hypocritically boasts about in his many pro-Ubuntu

>> proselytizing posts.

>>

>>

>

> Michael and Bruce, you don't see what the problem is.

> The problem with M$ is simply they are installing stuff on your computer

> and you have no CLUE what it is or what is does.

>

> If you REALLY wanted to know you should try to reverse engineer the

> binaries, which are probably hopelessly obfuscated.

>

> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C most

> of the time.

>

> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new software. In

> windows you can never.

>

> That is a very big diff.

>

> Regards,

> Erwin

I understand perfectly, Erwin, and I don't like it.

 

My point is, the same thing can happen with Linux,

 

Reverse engineer the source code? I assume from that you are implying that

anyone using a Linux distro has the ability to do that. I haven't conducted

a poll or tested the majority of users but I seriously doubt the average

computer user has that ability. And, all things being equal, the example

states this is being done without the knowledge of the user, hence, they

wouldn't even know when it happens so even if they had the ability to

reverse engineer the code they wouldn't do it because the code was changed

without their knowledge. If the same happened on a Linux distro, they

wouldn't know either.

 

--

Michael Solomon

Backup is a PC user's best friend

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"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

>> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?

>> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a

>> laugh out of the content?

>>

> Why shouldn't they do it? After all, Windoze is their operating system and

> they are simply leasing it to you. They own it, you don't. You have only

> purchased the license. hehehe. They aren't changing the license behind

> your

> back, but then again, maybe their EULA allows them to make changes to the

> license at any time? It'll be interesting to see what changes did happen

> with those files. I'm sure someone is going to decompile them and find

> out. :-)

>

> Cheers.

>

> --

> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

>

> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

>

> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html

>

>

If you're an IT department with your code locked down for compatibility and

stability reasons and you are responsible for multiple desktops, this kind

of story has to make you shudder just a bit.

 

--

Michael Solomon

Backup is a PC user's best friend

DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

In article <46e994e5$0$236$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,

Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com says...

> The problem with M$ is simply they are installing stuff on your computer

> and you have no CLUE what it is or what is does.

 

And the same is true for any OS for most users. Alias has no idea what

actually installed on his computer, not even a real clue. Sure, he knows

the names (if he takes time to read) of the packages and apps, but he

doesn't have a clue as to what they really do on the computer.

 

Now, you can claim that O/S is reviewed by thousands, that the community

would not stand for xyz, but the fact is that exploits in many

Unix/Linux apps exist - just a google search will show this.

 

Don't claim that windows is somehow screwing you, you don't have a clue

what is running on your linux box.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Michael Solomon wrote:

>

>

> "Erwin Moller"

> <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

> message news:46e994e5$0$236$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

>> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>>> Michael Solomon wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> Alias, what's to stop any Linux distro from doing the same thing?

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Actually, Ubuntu's ability and practice of doing just that are

>>> one of the "advantages" Alias hypocritically boasts about in his many

>>> pro-Ubuntu proselytizing posts.

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Michael and Bruce, you don't see what the problem is.

>> The problem with M$ is simply they are installing stuff on your

>> computer and you have no CLUE what it is or what is does.

>>

>> If you REALLY wanted to know you should try to reverse engineer the

>> binaries, which are probably hopelessly obfuscated.

>>

>> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C

>> most of the time.

>>

>> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new

>> software. In windows you can never.

>>

>> That is a very big diff.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Erwin

> I understand perfectly, Erwin, and I don't like it.

>

> My point is, the same thing can happen with Linux,

>

> Reverse engineer the source code? I assume from that you are implying

> that anyone using a Linux distro has the ability to do that. I haven't

> conducted a poll or tested the majority of users but I seriously doubt

> the average computer user has that ability. And, all things being

> equal, the example states this is being done without the knowledge of

> the user, hence, they wouldn't even know when it happens so even if they

> had the ability to reverse engineer the code they wouldn't do it because

> the code was changed without their knowledge. If the same happened on a

> Linux distro, they wouldn't know either.

>

I believe that peer review of "released" linux and applications code is

the rule rather than the exception. In other words, people that KNOW

what to look for are reviewing code and verifying that there are no

hidden surprises before the code is available through the repositories.

No doubt that there COULD be rogue code available somewhere, but it is

unlikely to be found in the normal distribution channels. Is that

process available with proprietary code?

 

--

norm

In article <OphdNgl9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

noone@afakeddomain.net says...

> I believe that peer review of "released" linux and applications code is

> the rule rather than the exception. In other words, people that KNOW

> what to look for are reviewing code and verifying that there are no

> hidden surprises before the code is available through the repositories.

 

And yet they deliver patches and updates frequently, because things were

not caught in that PEER-REVIEW process.

 

It doesn't matter how you do it or what process you implement, bad code

will get by, hacks will be found, etc... It's easier to find exploits if

you have the source code, both for the good guy and the bad guys.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

Relax, It's Only An Updated Version Of Windows Update, All Other Files Were

Left Unchanged, Just FYI.

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

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> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:

>

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9036058&intsrc=hm_list

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

kevpan815@hotmail.com wrote:

> Relax, It's Only An Updated Version Of Windows Update, All Other Files

> Were Left Unchanged, Just FYI.

 

I don't care *what* it is it shouldn't be done surreptitiously.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fcbnm2$60f$1@aioe.org...

>> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:

>>

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9036058&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

 

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <OphdNgl9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> noone@afakeddomain.net says...

>> I believe that peer review of "released" linux and applications code is

>> the rule rather than the exception. In other words, people that KNOW

>> what to look for are reviewing code and verifying that there are no

>> hidden surprises before the code is available through the repositories.

>

> And yet they deliver patches and updates frequently, because things were

> not caught in that PEER-REVIEW process.

>

> It doesn't matter how you do it or what process you implement, bad code

> will get by, hacks will be found, etc... It's easier to find exploits if

> you have the source code, both for the good guy and the bad guys.

>

Very true, but there seems to be an issue of transparency still not

dealt with. And that, I believe, is the real problem with what has

happened again with ms. It is repeatable and verifiable. And I find it

curious that some cannot or will not question what is going on.

 

--

norm

Eriwin's problem

 

The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

taking care of him or herself, and social skills. These limitations will

cause a poster to learn and develop more slowly than a typical poster.

People with Erwin Moller Syndrome may take longer to learn

to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or

eating. They are likely to have trouble learning in school, and posting to

Microsoft newsgroups. They will learn, but it will take them longer. There

may be some things they cannot learn. They keep trying.

 

Just FYI.

 

"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

message news:46e9688a$0$227$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

>> permission.

>

> You can say that indeed.

>

> Here is another article describing the same:

> (from Adrian Kingsley-Hughes, ZDnet)

> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622

>

>

> I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?

>

> So what?

> Are you really totally ignorant or just trolling?

>

>

>> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a

>> laugh out of the content?

>

> They don't need a backdoor in your PC to see what is published here, do

> they?

>

>>

>> If you have bootleg software on your machine, do you think that the

>> MicroSquish police are going to knock down your door at 2 AM and take you

>> into custody? Come on now.

>

> Get better informed or shut it up.

>

>>

>> Alias, you are safe with your Ubuntu and I suggest you remove your

>> network connectivity with your Vista machine and just continue to play

>> games on it. That way they won't be watching you play Doom.

>

> I think you are really the ignorant idiot you pretend to be.

>

> In case you live in under some precious dictator, here is some news for

> you: Some people on this planet cherish their freedom and privacy.

> So they made laws to protect themselfs from megalomaniacs.

> Many countries also have laws concerning electronic burglary.

> It is a crime.

> Period.

>

> Grow up, get an education, then read Orwell. In your case 5 times.

>

> No regards,

> Erwin Moller

>

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fcbnm2$60f$1@aioe.org...

>>> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:

>>>

>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9036058&intsrc=hm_list

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>

The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

taking care of him or herself, and social skills. These limitations will

cause a poster to learn and develop more slowly than a typical poster.

People with Erwin Moller Syndrome may take longer to learn

to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or

eating. They are likely to have trouble learning in school, and posting to

Microsoft newsgroups. They will learn, but it will take them longer. There

may be some things they cannot learn. They keep trying.

 

Just FYI.

 

"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

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> Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:

>> How Windows Update Keeps Itself Up-to-Date

>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

>>

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> I read it.

> I reread it.

> Then I found a bunch of lies and inconsistencies.

>

> Of course M$ has a 'perfectly good' explanation why they do it.

> But if you read it well, you can see it is bull.

>

> I think this is the central part in their line of thought:

>

> <quote>

> One question we have been asked is why do we update the client code for

> Windows Update automatically if the customer did not opt into

> automatically installing updates without further notice? The answer is

> simple: any user who chooses to use Windows Update either expected updates

> to be installed or to at least be notified that updates were available.

> Had we failed to update the service automatically, users would not have

> been able to successfully check for updates and, in turn, users would not

> have had updates installed automatically or received expected

> notifications. That result would not only fail to meet customer

> expectations but even worse, that result would lead users to believe that

> they were secure even though there was no installation and/or notification

> of upgrades. To avoid creating such a false impression, the Windows

> Update client is configured to automatically check for updates anytime a

> system uses the WU service, independent of the selected settings for

> handling updates (for example, “check for updates but let me choose

> whether to download or install them”). This has been the case since we

> introduced the automatic update feature in Windows XP. In fact, WU has

> auto-updated itself many times in the past.

> </quote>

>

> That is just not true.

> In fact they are claiming that it is impossible for W$ to offer their

> updates on older WU software.

> which of course doesn't make sense.

> They could easily have choosen for a model where the WU tells the client

> it should first update itself before continuing the real update.

> If fact I have seen that scheme many times before in other

> softwarepackages.

> And this part is really completely hilarious:

>

> "That result would not only fail to meet customer expectations but even

> worse, that result would lead users to believe that they were secure even

> though there was no installation and/or notification of upgrades."

>

> So phoning home behind the users back is meeting customers expectations

> BETTER than just staying quit, as ASKED by the user that disabled WU?

>

> And WHAT is the point of updating WU itself if it is disabled in the first

> place?

>

>

> I hope you don't fall for that dribble. It is logical nonsense, and

> clearly false propaganda, aimed at simpletons like Bill Yanaire.

>

> Dont believe everything M$ want you to believe.

> Their record has not been excactly clean in the past, and so have been

> their lies.

> I have absolutely no problems with people using MS software, I do it

> myself. But PLEASE don't expect MS users to believe in their good

> character and best intents, they have none.

>

> Regards,

> Erwin Moller

Your Problem

 

The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

taking care of him or herself, and social skills. These limitations will

cause a poster to learn and develop more slowly than a typical poster.

People with Erwin Moller Syndrome may take longer to learn

to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or

eating. They are likely to have trouble learning in school, and posting to

Microsoft newsgroups. They will learn, but it will take them longer. There

may be some things they cannot learn. They keep trying.

 

Just FYI.

 

"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

message news:46e994e5$0$236$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> Michael Solomon wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Alias, what's to stop any Linux distro from doing the same thing?

>>>

>>

>>

>> Actually, Ubuntu's ability and practice of doing just that are one of

>> the "advantages" Alias hypocritically boasts about in his many pro-Ubuntu

>> proselytizing posts.

>>

>>

>

> Michael and Bruce, you don't see what the problem is.

> The problem with M$ is simply they are installing stuff on your computer

> and you have no CLUE what it is or what is does.

>

> If you REALLY wanted to know you should try to reverse engineer the

> binaries, which are probably hopelessly obfuscated.

>

> With Ubuntu you can ALWAYS look at the sourcecode, written in clear C most

> of the time.

>

> The bottomline is you can control WHAT is going on in the new software. In

> windows you can never.

>

> That is a very big diff.

>

> Regards,

> Erwin

Your Problem

 

The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

taking care of him or herself, and social skills. These limitations will

cause a poster to learn and develop more slowly than a typical poster.

People with Erwin Moller Syndrome may take longer to learn

to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or

eating. They are likely to have trouble learning in school, and posting to

Microsoft newsgroups. They will learn, but it will take them longer. There

may be some things they cannot learn. They keep trying.

 

Just FYI.

 

"Erwin Moller"

<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> wrote in

message news:46e99bb4$0$243$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

> john wrote:

>> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

>> news:eQ03KKi9HHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

>>> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so

>>> what?

>>

>> this is the exact same don't-know-don't-care mentality that brought us

>> Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, the Patriot Act, etc. etc.

>> the gov't loves people like you.

>

> Scary eh?

> What is even worse, in the other thread this Bill claims to retire in 6

> years. One expects a little more wisdom on that age...

>

> Seriously, I knew more of the world when I was 14 (by then I read Animal

> Farm which is a good kickstart for the young brain of course.).

>

> Ah well, I bet Bill goes to church every sunday and is a good boy (meeeh).

Alias wrote:

> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:

>

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9036058&intsrc=hm_list

>

 

Really?

So you think updating the updater is controlling my computer?

I don't think so.

Also, the article you referenced with your screaming headline is not the

real headline of the article. Nor is the word "control" used anywhere in

the article.

You're of a fringe element and appear to have now become very paranoid

in addition to your constant lying.

Frank

Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

Alias wrote:

> kevpan815@hotmail.com wrote:

>

>> Relax, It's Only An Updated Version Of Windows Update, All Other Files

>> Were Left Unchanged, Just FYI.

>

>

> I don't care *what* it is it shouldn't be done surreptitiously.

>

 

Read the EULA!

It isn't being done surreptitiously...but you can't get that fact thru

your thick head can you?

Frank

Michael Solomon wrote:

>

>

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:XxhGi.168371$rX4.130486@pd7urf2no...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>

>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

>>> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so

>>> what? Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and

>>> get a laugh out of the content?

>>>

>> Why shouldn't they do it? After all, Windoze is their operating system

>> and they are simply leasing it to you. They own it, you don't. You have

>> only purchased the license. hehehe. They aren't changing the license

>> behind your

>> back, but then again, maybe their EULA allows them to make changes to the

>> license at any time? It'll be interesting to see what changes did happen

>> with those files. I'm sure someone is going to decompile them and find

>> out. :-)

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>> --

>> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

>> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

>>

>> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

>>

>> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

>> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html

>>

>>

> If you're an IT department with your code locked down for compatibility

> and stability reasons and you are responsible for multiple desktops, this

> kind of story has to make you shudder just a bit.

>

I would certainly think so!

 

Cheers.

 

--

Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

 

Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

 

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Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> kevpan815@hotmail.com wrote:

>>

>>> Relax, It's Only An Updated Version Of Windows Update, All Other

>>> Files Were Left Unchanged, Just FYI.

>>

>>

>> I don't care *what* it is it shouldn't be done surreptitiously.

>>

>

> Read the EULA!

 

I don't agree with the EULA, even if I hit F8 to install something I

paid for.

> It isn't being done surreptitiously...but you can't get that fact thru

> your thick head can you?

> Frank

 

It is, Frank. Read the article if your attention span can handle it.

 

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NoStop wrote:

> Michael Solomon wrote:

>

>>

>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:XxhGi.168371$rX4.130486@pd7urf2no...

>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>>

>>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express

>>>> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so

>>>> what? Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and

>>>> get a laugh out of the content?

>>>>

>>> Why shouldn't they do it? After all, Windoze is their operating system

>>> and they are simply leasing it to you. They own it, you don't. You have

>>> only purchased the license. hehehe. They aren't changing the license

>>> behind your

>>> back, but then again, maybe their EULA allows them to make changes to the

>>> license at any time? It'll be interesting to see what changes did happen

>>> with those files. I'm sure someone is going to decompile them and find

>>> out. :-)

>>>

>>> Cheers.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

>>>

>>> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

>>>

>>> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:

>>> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html

>>>

>>>

>> If you're an IT department with your code locked down for compatibility

>> and stability reasons and you are responsible for multiple desktops, this

>> kind of story has to make you shudder just a bit.

>>

> I would certainly think so!

>

> Cheers.

>

 

<Hey Nostop, about your Google crap, M$ is walking down Linux, and M$

has been doing so for a few months and will over take Linux. <g>>

 

<http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2007/08/06/august_2007_web_server_survey.html>

Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

Alias wrote:

>

> I don't agree with the EULA, even if I hit F8 to install something I

> paid for.

>

 

Then don't use the software. BTW, you don't "own" the software, you've

only leased the option to use it.

And one other thing, you "own" that POS toy os ubuntu you're so

fanatical about.

>> It isn't being done surreptitiously...but you can't get that fact thru

>> your thick head can you?

>> Frank

>

>

> It is, Frank. Read the article if your attention span can handle it.

 

I take it you either didn't read the article or else you didn't

comprehend what you read.

It seems that you're starting to get dumber as time goes on? Are you on

some kind of medication or what?

Frank

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:04:46 -0700, "Mrs. Alias" <mrsalias@spain.com>

wrote:

>The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

>limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

>taking care of him or herself, and social skills.

 

You just described Frank perfectly. This newsgroups number one troll.

Re: Does Redmond Control Your Computer Remotely?

 

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:24:29 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>>

>> I don't agree with the EULA, even if I hit F8 to install something I

>> paid for.

>>

>

>Then don't use the software. BTW, you don't "own" the software, you've

>only leased the option to use it.

>And one other thing, you "own" that POS toy os ubuntu you're so

>fanatical about.

 

Lets look at the flip side. I BOUGHT my computer. It belongs to ME.

Microsoft has no business snooping around on my computer for any

reason or installing it's crap without telling me or deciding when it

should phone home to report it checked up on me. Most laughable of all

the idiots at Microsoft have absolutely no legal basis to mark

anybody's copy of Vista as counterfeit, yet they did that to who knows

how many people recently due to sheer negligence and gross stupidity

on their part. Duh!

 

Still thought you should be reminded what your supporting.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:04:46 -0700, "Mrs. Alias" <mrsalias@spain.com>

> wrote:

>

>

>>The Erwin Moller Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain

>>limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,

>>taking care of him or herself, and social skills.

>

>

> You just described Frank perfectly. This newsgroups number one troll.

>

 

Damn, you are my Pavlovian dog aren't you/

Bark and dance for us...hahaha...!

Frank