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"...it has called on some other mvp"

Nice ASSUMPTION.

FALSE as far as I know.

Be careful what you ASSUME.

Most here know what it means to ASSUME.

 

Your obvious violation of newsgroup etiquette by posting in HTML sits

strange while you FALSELY accuse another of a violation.

Pot, Kettle Black

 

Go read what she posts rather than selected posts you call spam,

perhaps then you will see who she really is.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

 

 

 

"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com> wrote in message

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I said the spam post is not helpful.

 

occasionally it does post something useful.

 

not surprised it has called on some other mvp for defencse.

 

 

 

mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:44 -0000, "antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote:

    >Wally

    >It would appear you have never heard the term 'contextualizing'?

     

    <Snipped blah-blah>

     

    It's very difficult to follow a thread that's always top-posted, let

    alone a mixed top/bottom posted thread.

     

    To have a top poster with a delimiter that wipes virtually everything

    out under their post, is absurd.

     

    Perhaps you just don't know how a delimiter works.

     

    I forgive your lack of knowledge and hope this will create an incentive

    for you to understand what I'm talking about.

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:01:42 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >Everything but what I deliberately snipped is in the reply.

     

     

    This is a perfect example. How the heck is somene supposed to

    figure this out?

     

    Are you really that clueless ?

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    It is there, if you are unable to see it, the problem is with you or

    your newsreader.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

    news:q466m3t3k0h8pdecc9poga3ism1peg5lpb@4ax.com...

    > This is a perfect example. How the heck is somene supposed to

    > figure this out?

    >

    > Are you really that clueless ?

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    You may be the only one who couldn't figure it out.. :-)

     

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP

    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

     

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

    news:q466m3t3k0h8pdecc9poga3ism1peg5lpb@4ax.com...

    > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:01:42 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    > <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >

    >>Everything but what I deliberately snipped is in the reply.

    >

    >

    > This is a perfect example. How the heck is somene supposed to

    > figure this out?

    >

    > Are you really that clueless ?

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:24:25 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >It is there, if you are unable to see it, the problem is with you or

    >your newsreader.

     

     

    I use Agent, as you can clearly see.

     

    A delimiter causes everything UNDER IT to not show up upon reply.

     

    The purpose of a delimiter is for the sig not to show up upon reply so

    as to not clutter up the thread.

     

    Since you insist on using a delimiter AND top-posting, everthing

    under your sig is gone.

     

    Do you understand that or are you just a Microsoft standards-changer?

    Because you say so, that's how it will be.

     

    Do you understand what a delimiter is and how to use it ?

     

    Here --

     

    Concerning SIGNATURES:

     

    Many people include a signature at the end of their messages.

    This signature may contain useful information like how to unmunge

    a munged e-mail address, how to grab that person's public OpenPGP

    key, or just trivia and maybe humoristic phrases.

     

    The signature should not be a novel. Keep it short - the

    generally accepted length is no more than 4 lines but nobody will

    yell at you if it's 5 or 6. Things will start getting out of hand

    if your signature is much longer than that.

     

    The signature itself should be separated from the rest of the

    body by a signature delimiter. The standard for that delimiter is

    "-- " (dash dash space) on its own on a line. Everything above it

    in the body will be displayed. The delimiter itself and

    everything below it will be stripped by the newsreader/mailer

    when someone wants to reply to a message with such a signature,

    and some mailers/newsreaders won't even display the signature in

    the first place.

     

    If people start complaining about the fact that you're sending

    blank messages, pay special attention to what you're sending and

    where you're putting the "-- ". As usual, don't assume everyone's

    software behaves like yours. In fact, if you receive complaints

    and you don't know why, the chances are that your software isn't

    behaving at all. Microsoft Outlook Express and Outlook, for

    example, are totally incapable of handling signatures, or text

    wrapping for that matter, in a standards-compliant manner without

    third party add-ons such as "QuoteFix" (which exists in two

    versions: QuoteFix for Outlook and QuoteFix for Outlook Express).

     

    Finally, bear in mind that some automated mail management systems

    such as mailman, majordomo, ecartis and the like will carry on

    trying to process your signature as commands unless it is

    separated from the real commands by the usual "-- " delimiter.

     

    http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:16 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >You may be the only one who couldn't figure it out.. :-)

     

    No, you and several others obviously don't take the time to understand

    that this is Usenet, not a Microsoft "Forum" with it's own standards

    by which all shall obey.

     

    I find it unfathomable that you can't understand this.

     

    Educate yourself about Usenet.

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:16 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >You may be the only one who couldn't figure it out.. :-)

     

    Let me help you learn, as you help so many others.

     

    http://www.dickgaughan.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq08-topp.html

     

    Also

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block

     

    Also

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Netkeeping_Seal_of_Approval

     

     

    Also

     

    I wonder if I can ask you to spare a thought for your many blind

    readers who, although they often have guide dogs, are not averse

    to owning the odd cat or two. Also cats help keep the dogs in

    order although they tend to take the most disgraceful liberties

    with the good-natured attitudes of labradors. At this very moment

    there's a long-suffering labrador getting the occasional biff on

    the nose from my cat for not being a cat.

     

    JAWS (Job Access With Speech) is a popular newreader with the

    blind and is a real newsreader inasmuch as it reads out posts

    aloud. It is configured along AUP Usenet conventions and has no

    problems with most newsgroups except this one.

     

    Many of you throw JAWS into a state of confusion by posting

    upside-down. That is, you add your comments at the top of a

    follow-up and leave the attributed follow-up trailing below. And

    very often many don't bother to trim the reposted article to

    salient points. A blind reader has to keep hitting skip when it

    finally dawns that he or she is being presented with the entire

    post again without comments at the end.

     

    Please remember that a Usenet post has one writer but many

    readers therefore it is sensible to cater for the majority when

    posting. Also, trimming to salient points and adding your

    comments below is a Usenet convention, contained in the RFC and

    is invariable included in your server's AUP which you have agreed

    to adhere to.

     

    Clagging servers with millions of bytes of unnecessary untrimmed

    reposts doesn't do anyone any favours and invariable leads to

    ISPs expiring offending newsgroups more quickly than others, as

    is happening with this newsgroup.

     

    Some of you may argue that Outlook Express is the culprit because

    it places the cursor at the top of a post when replying. Nearly

    all newsreaders do this, expecting you to trim the repost before

    entering your reply underneath. What Outlook Express doesn't do

    is automatically strip signature files from reposts but that's

    easy to do yourself. All in all, Outlook Express is a dreadful

    newsreader - clumsy and bloated. Forte Free Agent is quite good.

     

    So please could we have a little consideration for others.

     

    Many thanks for your attention.

     

     

    http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_chr0.htm

     

     

     

     

    If you are able to comprehend the above links, get back to me.

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    "I use Agent"

    Irrelevant.

     

    You are free to deal with it how you want.

    What you are not free to do is insist others comply with your desires.

    Others have the same choice.

    You have many options depending on your news reader.

    You deal with it, and that means within the confines of your own

    computer system.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

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    > I use Agent, as you can clearly see.

    >

    > A delimiter causes everything UNDER IT to not show up upon reply.

    >

    > The purpose of a delimiter is for the sig not to show up upon reply

    > so

    > as to not clutter up the thread.

    >

    > Since you insist on using a delimiter AND top-posting, everthing

    > under your sig is gone.

    >

    > Do you understand that or are you just a Microsoft

    > standards-changer?

    > Because you say so, that's how it will be.

    >

    > Do you understand what a delimiter is and how to use it ?

    >

    > Here --

    >

    > Concerning SIGNATURES:

    >

    > Many people include a signature at the end of their messages.

    > This signature may contain useful information like how to unmunge

    > a munged e-mail address, how to grab that person's public OpenPGP

    > key, or just trivia and maybe humoristic phrases.

    >

    > The signature should not be a novel. Keep it short - the

    > generally accepted length is no more than 4 lines but nobody will

    > yell at you if it's 5 or 6. Things will start getting out of hand

    > if your signature is much longer than that.

    >

    > The signature itself should be separated from the rest of the

    > body by a signature delimiter. The standard for that delimiter is

    > "-- " (dash dash space) on its own on a line. Everything above it

    > in the body will be displayed. The delimiter itself and

    > everything below it will be stripped by the newsreader/mailer

    > when someone wants to reply to a message with such a signature,

    > and some mailers/newsreaders won't even display the signature in

    > the first place.

    >

    > If people start complaining about the fact that you're sending

    > blank messages, pay special attention to what you're sending and

    > where you're putting the "-- ". As usual, don't assume everyone's

    > software behaves like yours. In fact, if you receive complaints

    > and you don't know why, the chances are that your software isn't

    > behaving at all. Microsoft Outlook Express and Outlook, for

    > example, are totally incapable of handling signatures, or text

    > wrapping for that matter, in a standards-compliant manner without

    > third party add-ons such as "QuoteFix" (which exists in two

    > versions: QuoteFix for Outlook and QuoteFix for Outlook Express).

    >

    > Finally, bear in mind that some automated mail management systems

    > such as mailman, majordomo, ecartis and the like will carry on

    > trying to process your signature as commands unless it is

    > separated from the real commands by the usual "-- " delimiter.

    >

    > http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

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    On 12/14/2007 4:39 PM On a whim, Wally pounded out on the keyboard

    > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:24:25 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    > <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >

    >> It is there, if you are unable to see it, the problem is with you or

    >> your newsreader.

    >

    >

    > I use Agent, as you can clearly see.

    >

    > A delimiter causes everything UNDER IT to not show up upon reply.

    >

    > The purpose of a delimiter is for the sig not to show up upon reply so

    > as to not clutter up the thread.

    >

    > Since you insist on using a delimiter AND top-posting, everthing

    > under your sig is gone.

    >

    > Do you understand that or are you just a Microsoft standards-changer?

    > Because you say so, that's how it will be.

    >

    > Do you understand what a delimiter is and how to use it ?

    >

    > Here --

    >

    > Concerning SIGNATURES:

    >

    > Many people include a signature at the end of their messages.

    > This signature may contain useful information like how to unmunge

    > a munged e-mail address, how to grab that person's public OpenPGP

    > key, or just trivia and maybe humoristic phrases.

    >

    > The signature should not be a novel. Keep it short - the

    > generally accepted length is no more than 4 lines but nobody will

    > yell at you if it's 5 or 6. Things will start getting out of hand

    > if your signature is much longer than that.

    >

    > The signature itself should be separated from the rest of the

    > body by a signature delimiter. The standard for that delimiter is

    > "-- " (dash dash space) on its own on a line. Everything above it

    > in the body will be displayed. The delimiter itself and

    > everything below it will be stripped by the newsreader/mailer

    > when someone wants to reply to a message with such a signature,

    > and some mailers/newsreaders won't even display the signature in

    > the first place.

    >

    > If people start complaining about the fact that you're sending

    > blank messages, pay special attention to what you're sending and

    > where you're putting the "-- ". As usual, don't assume everyone's

    > software behaves like yours. In fact, if you receive complaints

    > and you don't know why, the chances are that your software isn't

    > behaving at all. Microsoft Outlook Express and Outlook, for

    > example, are totally incapable of handling signatures, or text

    > wrapping for that matter, in a standards-compliant manner without

    > third party add-ons such as "QuoteFix" (which exists in two

    > versions: QuoteFix for Outlook and QuoteFix for Outlook Express).

    >

    > Finally, bear in mind that some automated mail management systems

    > such as mailman, majordomo, ecartis and the like will carry on

    > trying to process your signature as commands unless it is

    > separated from the real commands by the usual "-- " delimiter.

    >

    > http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

     

    I've asked many who top post and use a delimiter, i.e. all those who use

    a MS client (stupid MS), to not do that, but Windows Mail is unable to

    be configured not use a delimiter when top posting (although OL & OE can

    like you stated using Quotefix). Any proper newsreader (I use TB) will

    NOT insert a delimiter if the user chooses to top post.

     

    --

    Terry R.

     

    ***Reply Note***

    Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.

    Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

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    "Usenet, not a Microsoft "Forum""

    You are not entirely correct.

    Many post here directly from the Microsoft servers and others from

    Microsoft forums depending on the specific newsgroup.

    the fact these newsgroups are propagated beyond Microsoft is another

    issue and not really relevant.

    Those posting from Microsoft newsgroups or forums are bound to follow

    the rules set up by Microsoft not rules dictated by you, me or anyone

    else.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

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    > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:16 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    > <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >

    >>You may be the only one who couldn't figure it out.. :-)

    >

    > No, you and several others obviously don't take the time to

    > understand

    > that this is Usenet, not a Microsoft "Forum" with it's own

    > standards

    > by which all shall obey.

    >

    > I find it unfathomable that you can't understand this.

    >

    > Educate yourself about Usenet.

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    Seems like I read what I was expecting ...instead of what was written.It sux

    getting old! Avoid it at all costs.

    --

    Mike Pawlak

     

     

    "Daave" wrote:

    > MAP wrote:

    > > MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

    > >> [Top posted just to PO some self-righteous jerk}

    > >>

    > >> <AOL> Me, too </AOL>

    > >> http://elephantboycomputers.com

    > >>

    > >> Let's see if you help folks out as much as Malke does ... nope.

    > >> Now go back to your caves, trolls.

    > >>

    > >> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]

    > >> ===============

    > >> *-343-* FDNY

    > >> Never Forgotten

    > >> ===============

    > >>

    > >>

    > >> MAP wrote:

    > >>

    > >>> Look at me, I'm a spammer too!

    > >>> http://elephantboycomputers.com/

    > >

    > > What no sense of humor

    >

    > Read it again. :-)

    >

    > --

    > Me Three

    > Be sure to visit http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html

    >

    >

    >

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:55:15 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >"I use Agent"

    >Irrelevant.

    >

    >You are free to deal with it how you want.

    >What you are not free to do is insist others comply with your desires.

    >Others have the same choice.

    >You have many options depending on your news reader.

    >You deal with it, and that means within the confines of your own

    >computer system.

    >

    >--

    >Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    >http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

    I was told it might be the fault of my newsreader

     

    Your reply is condescending and quite arrogant.

     

    You have no idea how Usenet operates and no understanding

    of the conventions involved and don't care to learn.

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:58:22 -0800, "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com>

    wrote:

    >I've asked many who top post and use a delimiter, i.e. all those who use

    > a MS client (stupid MS), to not do that, but Windows Mail is unable to

    >be configured not use a delimiter when top posting (although OL & OE can

    >like you stated using Quotefix). Any proper newsreader (I use TB) will

    >NOT insert a delimiter if the user chooses to top post.

     

    Thanks for the info, Terry.

     

    That certainly invites a mess.

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    read the microsoft news rules.

    HTML is and always has been welcome.

     

    and you call your self an mvp.

     

     

     

     

    mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com

     

     

     

    "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message news:%23BYBb1oPIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

    "...it has called on some other mvp"

    Nice ASSUMPTION.

    FALSE as far as I know.

    Be careful what you ASSUME.

    Most here know what it means to ASSUME.

     

    Your obvious violation of newsgroup etiquette by posting in HTML sits

    strange while you FALSELY accuse another of a violation.

    Pot, Kettle Black

     

    Go read what she posts rather than selected posts you call spam,

    perhaps then you will see who she really is.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com> wrote in message

    news:u0eT8ZmPIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    I said the spam post is not helpful.

     

    occasionally it does post something useful.

     

    not surprised it has called on some other mvp for defencse.

     

     

     

    mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:59:29 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >"Usenet, not a Microsoft "Forum""

    >You are not entirely correct.

    >Many post here directly from the Microsoft servers and others from

    >Microsoft forums depending on the specific newsgroup.

    >the fact these newsgroups are propagated beyond Microsoft is another

    >issue and not really relevant.

    >Those posting from Microsoft newsgroups or forums are bound to follow

    >the rules set up by Microsoft not rules dictated by you, me or anyone

    >else.

     

    Okay, please show me the Microsoft "Rules" regarding top-posting,

    delimiters and the proper way to followup a post from somebody who

    insists upon doing so.

     

    While you're looking up the Microsoft Posting Handbook, let me

    know the chapter on MVP top-posting.

     

    BTW, how do you think this group got on Usenet ?

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    You are also free to continue in the ASSUMPTIONS of your last post,

    there are more than one.

    Remember what it means to ASSUME.

     

    I guess your understanding of "condescending and quite arrogant" is

    suggesting you not have others comply with your own desires.

    Your post can as easily be applied to you.

    You should really read it.

     

    However you are rapidly heading the direction of insults as shown in

    the 2nd line of your post.

    And at that point nothing else of value is possible.

     

    Perhaps it is time for you to deal with real issues as suggested by

    the title of the newsgroup instead of trivial matters such as posting

    styles which are not relevant to these newsgroups.

     

    Bye

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

    news:b2b6m31sh8rs4oo5659lrikeblqquhc806@4ax.com...

    > I was told it might be the fault of my newsreader

    >

    > Your reply is condescending and quite arrogant.

    >

    > You have no idea how Usenet operates and no understanding

    > of the conventions involved and don't care to learn.

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    Wally, I read the posts in order. It is much easier to read one post to

    another than to have to scroll down a whole bunch of badly edited previous

    messages. Many bottom posters are unable to determine who said what

    regardless of whether the original posts were top or bottom.

     

    Top posting eliminates this problem. Welcome to the NEW Usenet..

     

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP

    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

     

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

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    > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:16 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    > <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >

    >>You may be the only one who couldn't figure it out.. :-)

    >

    > No, you and several others obviously don't take the time to understand

    > that this is Usenet, not a Microsoft "Forum" with it's own standards

    > by which all shall obey.

    >

    > I find it unfathomable that you can't understand this.

    >

    > Educate yourself about Usenet.

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    Obviously, you have no understanding of delimiters or how they work.

    Rather than take the time to learn, you obfuscate and end up

    taking the position of having your feelings hurt.

     

    Please accept my apology, as I did not mean to hurt your feelings.

     

    My intention was to assist you in learning about Usenet.

     

    Again, I'm sorry I upset you, as that was not my intention.

     

     

    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:37:33 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

    <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

    >You are also free to continue in the ASSUMPTIONS of your last post,

    >there are more than one.

    >Remember what it means to ASSUME.

    >

    >I guess your understanding of "condescending and quite arrogant" is

    >suggesting you not have others comply with your own desires.

    >Your post can as easily be applied to you.

    >You should really read it.

    >

    >However you are rapidly heading the direction of insults as shown in

    >the 2nd line of your post.

    >And at that point nothing else of value is possible.

    >

    >Perhaps it is time for you to deal with real issues as suggested by

    >the title of the newsgroup instead of trivial matters such as posting

    >styles which are not relevant to these newsgroups.

    >

    >Bye

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    On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:54:17 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >Wally, I read the posts in order. It is much easier to read one post to

    >another than to have to scroll down a whole bunch of badly edited previous

    >messages. Many bottom posters are unable to determine who said what

    >regardless of whether the original posts were top or bottom.

    >

    >Top posting eliminates this problem. Welcome to the NEW Usenet..

     

    And when I reply, this is all there is to reply to.

     

    It's not the "NEW usenet", it's arrogant posters.

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    You need to read the thread again.

    Apparently you missed much.

     

    The reference to your using HTML was compared with your complaints of

    signatures.

    Find something in those same rules you just referenced that suggest

    signatures are wrong.

    You can not, because it is not there.

    It seems etiquette that suits you is to be followed by everyone while

    those that do not suit you can be ignored by you.

    The obvious example of common etiquette to not use HTML in text

    newsgroups partially as a courtesy to those paying for their download

    usage.

    But you choose to disregard that while complaining about signatures

    which are acceptable to almost everyone except you.

    You pick and choose what you like and expect others to comply with

    your desires.

    It doesn't work that way.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com> wrote in message

    news:eZyBKnrPIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    read the microsoft news rules.

    HTML is and always has been welcome.

     

    and you call your self an mvp.

     

     

     

     

    mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com

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    "show me the Microsoft "Rules" regarding top-posting"

    There is nothing since BOTH top and bottom are fully acceptable.

     

    "the chapter on MVP top-posting."

    Obviously there is no such chapter since there is no such book.

    However the same rules that apply to you apply to me, no more and no

    less.

     

    "Microsoft Posting Handbook"

    There is no such thing and you know it.

    This is about as close as it gets:

    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx

     

    "BTW, how do you think this group got on Usenet ?"

    Again, not relevant.

    Those posting through Microsoft servers have no obligation other than

    what Microsoft has already asked.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

    news:n8b6m352msrnt67rcva8nbii54gl6fln2o@4ax.com...

    > Okay, please show me the Microsoft "Rules" regarding top-posting,

    > delimiters and the proper way to followup a post from somebody who

    > insists upon doing so.

    >

    > While you're looking up the Microsoft Posting Handbook, let me

    > know the chapter on MVP top-posting.

    >

    > BTW, how do you think this group got on Usenet ?

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    "I'm sorry I upset you"

    Please stop ASSUMING, as before you are simply WRONG.

    You should know what it means to ASSUME and the pitfalls that go with

    ASSUMING.

    If by some slim chance you are not assuming, you are posturing, and

    that is just a bad.

     

    --

    Jupiter Jones [MVP]

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

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    >

    >

    > Obviously, you have no understanding of delimiters or how they work.

    > Rather than take the time to learn, you obfuscate and end up

    > taking the position of having your feelings hurt.

    >

    > Please accept my apology, as I did not mean to hurt your feelings.

    >

    > My intention was to assist you in learning about Usenet.

    >

    > Again, I'm sorry I upset you, as that was not my intention.

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    Wally

     

    That was all I wrote.. as for you being arrogant, I wouldn't have gone that

    far exactly.. :-)

     

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP

    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

     

     

     

     

    "Wally" <wally@(nft).invalid> wrote in message

    news:kld6m3t3qa0trflifue1he4sfofluboi8o@4ax.com...

    > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:54:17 -0500, "Mike Hall - MVP"

    > <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

    >

    >>Wally, I read the posts in order. It is much easier to read one post to

    >>another than to have to scroll down a whole bunch of badly edited previous

    >>messages. Many bottom posters are unable to determine who said what

    >>regardless of whether the original posts were top or bottom.

    >>

    >>Top posting eliminates this problem. Welcome to the NEW Usenet..

    >

    > And when I reply, this is all there is to reply to.

    >

    > It's not the "NEW usenet", it's arrogant posters.

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    Agree - smart and helpful.

    I find the *SPAM* warnings to be annoying, but I guess after seeing this

    discussion that maybe there are those that can't identify spam for

    themselves. I can just filter out the subjects ending with *SPAM* and

    leave her useful posts, so I won't complain.

    Maybe it would be better if the spam warnings were just the subject line

    on an empty post? After all, if the intention is to have people avoid

    reading the post, why have anything in there at all?

     

    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in

    news:uyv2UonPIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

    > A smart lady..

    >

    > --

    > Mike Hall - MVP

    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

    >

    >

    >

    >

    > "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

    > news:fju9g2$3kd$2@aioe.org...

    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

    >>> Nobody called me to defend.

    >>

    >> Giggle. I wonder why?

    >>

    >>> The spam warning is for the benefit of others. Malke offers a great

    >>> deal of help in the XP and Vista newsgroups, and way more frequently

    >>> than occasionally.

    >>

    >> Yeah, but you better not contradict her or she will plonk you in a NY

    >> second.

    >>

    >> Alias

    >

    >

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